Nope, not if you want to enter a research university. There is another possibility: do your first year (propadeutic) in a HBO (applied sciences U) and then go to a research uni. Don't know if they have an English engineering programme though.

No probs. When you're more sure about coming here, let me know. Can give you more advice;)

I was just reading about an article in the UK about teachers telling their students to pursue their tertiary education in Netherlands instead of back home due to the recent fee hikes.

Good job TS. seems like you are the testament to it.

Keep things updated will ya!

Btw Im just curious what is the qualification to get into a Netherlands Uni? A levels/ STPM / International Baccalaureate ?
Do they have any education representative in Malaysia?

Hi,

Thanks for your message!

I think the best thing about studying here is the lack of spoon feeding. You are given a task and you interprete and do it as you see fit. This makes me feel as if they are really preparing me for the real world. Yet, help is always available if you ask for it. For example, many lecturers actually provide their phone numbers or are reachable by email or can be asked a question in their office. It's also nice that teachers are generally very objective. The relationship is somewhat closer- students can have a night out or beers with lecturers but the lecturer won't leak an exam question (I notice this is sometimes a problem in Malaysia.. for eg. sometimes some teachers..when they like a student a lot, they'll say..arrr you better pay attention to chapter 6 ar) and will judge your paper objectively.

Also, it is relatively easy to make friends. The kind of friends is up to your personal preferences and in a way, perhaps depends on luck as well (depending on which dorm/apartment you are assigned to). I hang out with mostly Dutch students. The other Malaysian in school mostly hangs out with Asians (Indonesian or Chinese). It's not like anyone hates any group.

Whoops, totally went off topic there haha. Right..to answer your question about the entry requirements to a Dutch research uni, IB & A-Levels shouldn't be a problem. STPM should be OK as well but you'll have to do more legwork since most universities are not familiar with it. Alternatively, you can do sort of like a foundation (propadeutic year which is technically the first year of HBO) after SPM at a uni of applied sciences and then hop on to a research university. In addition, students need TOEFL/IELTS/equaivalent.

Don't think they have a proper education representative in Malaysia. You can try contacting Nuffic (I think they have an office in Indonesia). Actually, I know they have hired some agency (at least I THINK so) but... dunno lah..I don't believe in agencies and the guy I saw at an edufair was kinda weird. If you need information, just ask me lah.. I don't get paid for giving advice haha.

I agree with you, meiiseenei. I know friends from Uni Maastricht, Holland and they pay so less fees for english programmes. I studied in Germany and it is even NO FEES! Those who would like to study in Germany and need to know how, join this club and they provide free infos:
http://www.facebook.com/my.de.club#!/g...116471545034767

I think Germany is going to impose a 1000 euro per year tuition for non-EU students soon. I guess uni tuition in Germany is cheaper but don't forget that students have to learn German fluently (i.e. expensive courses) and from what I've heard from a Malaysian family who has a son in Germany and another in Holland, cost of living in Germany is also higher.

Nope...its the other way round.... Germany is going to work towards no tuition fees again and it is proved the whole North Rhine Westphalia is not going to charge fees anymore starting from this winter. I learnt german and its so good to speak the language. Cost of living in Germany depends on which city one lives. Soem student cities are so affordable. I am there and thats why I am very sure.

if i want to study science/engineering in netherlands,whicb uni u will suggest? cheap oso good not forgetting career prspects etc

TU Delft - top 50 in the latest TIMES World Reputation Ranking. TU Eindhoven also OK. Actually, universities in NL do not differ all that much (if you look at it from Dutch eyes).

How about finance and accounting TS? any specific uni in mind?

The one being taught in english of course!

Sorry, can't think of any in particular.

In general, accountants aren't paid that much here though...

would studying in netherlands enable one to work in other countries in europe?

It is of course, easier to arrange interviews and stuff. International students at my school often do their internships abroad.

If you can't find anything in a country of your choice and try this:

i) Find a good job in NL (min 30 000 euro per year or you can't stay)
ii) Stay for 1 year
iii) Apply for European Long-Term Residency (PR)
iv) Find job within the EU (no visa required. However the European PR is not valid in the UK and 2 other countries..possibly the Scandinavian ones.)

This post has been edited by meiiseenei: Mar 27 2011, 02:29 AM

Guess Holland is still not a popular country for education which is strange considering that a lot of the famous companies are actually Dutch!

Good thread. I will put this under the study abroad section in my list TS ^^

Anyone here from TU Eindhoven?

how to check if dutch courses are recognised

hi, is there any recommended design or art school in NL?

This one is quite famous in NL: http://www.artez.nl/

Ok. Just check it. However, tuition fees is a bit hefty, Euro 8500/yr.
Initially, I was planning to study in Germany, given its attractive zero or little tuition fees charged on international students.

Expensive but considered one of the cheapest in the world already leh. Kenot get prices like that in the UK today. Certainly no way in the US and Australia.