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rayloke
post Jul 9 2010, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(shauno @ Jul 9 2010, 12:32 PM)
ah~ current workplace is just indoors, window open, ventilated by a ceiling fan with no table lamp to check on errors.. bad conditions for airbrushing?  =/
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It all depends on $$$ n space as i mentioned. For me, I slowly add one thing to another.

When u spray, normally what's the problem u encounter? dust? paint consistency? etc? Obviously, if u have a space dry, with low air movement, and comfortable (air cond room); a spray booth with a vent fan, with filter, and clean/dust free (have your maid to clean for ya everyday); good light source; plenty of space for pre n post air brushing; comfortable chair, silent n stable compressor, good handpiece; that would be perfect.

We all love to have perfect workplace but not many do have the luxury for that. Only when we encounter problems, we try to rectify them. If u r perfectly ok with everything u r having now, then it's always ok to maintain as u r comfortable.

Great work comes from the skillful hands n passionate heart of the artist. Workplace is important but not crucial.
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post Jul 9 2010, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(rayloke @ Jul 9 2010, 01:07 PM)
It all depends on $$$ n space as i mentioned. For me, I slowly add one thing to another.

When u spray, normally what's the problem u encounter? dust? paint consistency? etc? Obviously, if u have a space dry, with low air movement, and comfortable (air cond room); a spray booth with a vent fan, with filter, and clean/dust free (have your maid to clean for ya everyday); good light source; plenty of space for pre n post air brushing; comfortable chair, silent n stable compressor, good handpiece; that would be perfect.

We all love to have perfect workplace but not many do have the luxury for that. Only when we encounter problems, we try to rectify them. If u r perfectly ok with everything u r having now, then it's always ok to maintain as u r comfortable.

Great work comes from the skillful hands n passionate heart of the artist. Workplace is important but not crucial.
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ah.. point(s) taken. smile.gif currently, i'm still looking into getting an AB set, so was wondering if i need a spray booth or not.. looks like i'll cross the bridge when i see it and solve the problem as it comes along eh? biggrin.gif
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post Jul 14 2010, 06:02 AM

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QUOTE(MyKy44 @ May 25 2010, 12:49 AM)
uh guyz... how to remove parts tht were stuck together with elephant glue ar?

i mistaken glued some parts together doh.gif
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Use acetone (nail polish remover), it's a solvent for super glue.
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post Jul 14 2010, 08:03 PM

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Hi guys. This is my 1st attempt in painting a gundam (aside from markers of course tongue.gif ). I purchased a MG Sinanju a couple of days back and I've started the build. I'm planning to use prime92's technique to obtain somewhat of the metallic titanium finish as she has posted on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3EbBVuHZNE

I have not purchased any paints yet. Was thinking of goin dry brush as what she has done but I was afraid that it might be a little too risky. Will Mr. Color Super chrome + Tamiya Clear Red do the job in this case? Otherwise I had the thought of getting a can of silver industrial paint or would it be too messy of a job?
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post Jul 18 2010, 10:57 PM

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Hi, sifus

I have done some research on acrylic vs enamel vs lacquer paint.

1. If I were to choose acrylic paint for hand painting, Gunze Aqueous Hobby Color or Tamiya Acrylic, which is better in terms of:
(i) ease of painting,
(ii) durability of paint layer and
(iii)smell etc?


2. By the way, how does the lacquer-based gaiacolor smell? I mean does it smell nice or does it smell awful?


3. May I know if the Mr. Base White 1000 is one type of primer?


Thanks in advance. notworthy.gif

Cheers.



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rayloke
post Jul 20 2010, 04:46 PM

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QUOTE(LS Lim @ Jul 18 2010, 10:57 PM)
Hi, sifus

I have done some research on acrylic vs enamel vs lacquer paint.

1. If I were to choose acrylic paint for hand painting, Gunze Aqueous Hobby Color or Tamiya Acrylic, which is better in terms of:
(i) ease of painting,
(ii) durability of paint layer and
(iii)smell etc?
2. By the way, how does the lacquer-based gaiacolor smell? I mean does it smell nice or does it smell awful?
3. May I know if the Mr. Base White 1000 is one type of primer?
Thanks in advance.  notworthy.gif

Cheers.
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1. i won't label/compare them as which one is easier to use. I prefer Tamiya cause it's more opaque, means easier to over the base color. That's the only reason. In terms of brush stroke, i think Gunze's easier to control. Besides that, Gunze is easier to be dilluted by water, while Tamiya, i would recommend using thinner as the medium to dillute.

In terms of durability, I think Tamiya is better.

In terms of brightness of color, Gunze is better.

2. If u like petroleum smell, u will love everything with resin n thinner. I have the potential to sniff super glue, so it smells ok to me. If u hate petroluem based products smell, I think u will find it smell awful, just like any other hobby paint.

3. no. Base white is NOT primer, it is paint. A very concentrated n opaque one.



zieraq
post Jul 20 2010, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(wkyoong @ Jul 14 2010, 08:03 PM)
Hi guys. This is my 1st attempt in painting a gundam (aside from markers of course  tongue.gif  ). I purchased a MG Sinanju a couple of days back and I've started the build. I'm planning to use prime92's technique to obtain somewhat of the metallic titanium finish as she has posted on youtube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3EbBVuHZNE

I have not purchased any paints yet. Was thinking of goin dry brush as what she has done but I was afraid that it might be a little too risky. Will Mr. Color Super chrome + Tamiya Clear Red do the job in this case? Otherwise I had the thought of getting a can of silver industrial paint or would it be too messy of a job?
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watch that video careful. there is a lot of brushstroke. hard to see in video but in person, I can imagine how ugly it actually is. also the dim light while the recording session make the stroke invisible. I would say metallic paint is no good for handbrush. unless u r okay with it. but seriously for a expensive kit like sinanju, u better try on cheaper kit 1st to see if the result is ok for u or not.

dont follow Prime92 way of modeling. she don't use primer as base, never dilute the paint with thinner, use straight out of bottle. if u follow that technique I cant imagine how thick the paint is just to get it even sweat.gif
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post Jul 20 2010, 10:15 PM

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QUOTE(rayloke @ Jul 20 2010, 04:46 PM)
1. i won't label/compare them as which one is easier to use. I prefer Tamiya  cause it's more opaque, means easier to over the base color. That's the only reason. In terms of brush stroke, i think Gunze's easier to control. Besides that, Gunze is easier to be dilluted by water, while Tamiya, i would recommend using thinner as the medium to dillute.

In terms of durability, I think Tamiya is better.

In terms of brightness of color, Gunze is better.

2. If u like petroleum smell, u will love everything with resin n thinner. I have the potential to sniff super glue, so it smells ok to me. If u hate petroluem based products smell, I think u will find it smell awful, just like any other hobby paint.

3. no. Base white is NOT primer, it is paint. A very concentrated n opaque one.
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Rayloke sifu,

Thank you very much for your info. It is very detail and informative. notworthy.gif thumbup.gif notworthy.gif

It seems that Tamiya acrylic + Tamiya Thinner is more suitable to me. smile.gif
4. Is there any tips on how to control the brush stroke using Tamiya Acrylic?

5. May I know if Mr. Surfacer (as primer) and water-based Mr. Top Coat (Gloss) is suitable to be applied with Tamiya Arcrylic?

Thanks again.

Cheers. smile.gif notworthy.gif

wkyoong
post Jul 20 2010, 11:08 PM

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QUOTE(zieraq @ Jul 20 2010, 05:49 PM)
watch that video careful. there is a lot of brushstroke. hard to see in video but in person, I can imagine how ugly it actually is. also the dim light while the recording session make the stroke invisible. I would say metallic paint is no good for handbrush. unless u r okay with it. but seriously for a expensive kit like sinanju, u better try on cheaper kit 1st to see if the result is ok for u or not.

dont follow Prime92 way of modeling. she don't use primer as base, never dilute the paint with thinner, use straight out of bottle. if u follow that technique I cant imagine how thick the paint is just to get it even sweat.gif
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Yea I'm quite concerned about the brush strokes as well. Good thing I have not started on any painting yet (well I have not even gathered the materials anyways tongue.gif )

But wouldn't it be fine without primer? Regarding the brush streaks, would it be a big help to add some retarder solution into the paint?
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post Jul 21 2010, 01:23 AM

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QUOTE(wkyoong @ Jul 20 2010, 11:08 PM)
Yea I'm quite concerned about the brush strokes as well. Good thing I have not started on any painting yet (well I have not even gathered the materials anyways  tongue.gif  )

But wouldn't it be fine without primer? Regarding the brush streaks, would it be a big help to add some retarder solution into the paint?
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Retarder only help a little to slower the drying time of the paint. It doesnt help to reduce the brushstroke if ur handbrush skill is very bad in the 1st place. handbrush need a lot of practice. therefore I myself skip it. for kit like sinanju I wouldnt risk of paint chipping(coz of not using primer). I'll cry if that happen. I suggest polish ur skill with bootlegs gundam, then move on to ur sinanju after u confident enough.

also metallic paint is very unforgiving with uneven surfaces, scratches. Metallic by handbrush often will make the kit look like dented all over the place, like factory rejected mobile suit.
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post Jul 21 2010, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(zieraq @ Jul 21 2010, 01:23 AM)
Retarder only help a little to slower the drying time of the paint. It doesnt help to reduce the brushstroke if ur handbrush skill is very bad in the 1st place. handbrush need a lot of practice. therefore I myself skip it. for kit like sinanju I wouldnt risk of paint chipping(coz of not using primer). I'll cry if that happen. I suggest polish ur skill with bootlegs gundam, then move on to ur sinanju after u confident enough.

also metallic paint is very unforgiving with uneven surfaces, scratches. Metallic by handbrush often will make the kit look like dented all over the place, like factory rejected mobile suit.
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And here I am thinking it would be as easy as what Prime92 showed in her video rolleyes.gif

Guess it would be wise to put my sinanju aside until I am experienced enough. Great advice zieraq! Cheers laugh.gif
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post Jul 21 2010, 08:54 PM

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i painted the dagger knife of blue frames MG with gun chrome. if u like i can take some pictures of it on how it looks if u hand paint it. smile.gif
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QUOTE(gaiachronicler @ Jul 21 2010, 08:54 PM)
i painted the dagger knife of blue frames MG with gun chrome. if u like i can take some pictures of it on how it looks if u hand paint it. smile.gif
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Dude that would be great!!! laugh.gif

Also what paint did you use for the chrome?
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post Jul 21 2010, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(wkyoong @ Jul 21 2010, 09:08 PM)
Dude that would be great!!!  laugh.gif

Also what paint did you use for the chrome?
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using mr.hobby "gun chrome" no mixture added

but im using only phone camera

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u can see that black handle for the dagger is the default mold color
it has a bit of the "light deflect" effect, just a bit, not much. more like chrome grey rather then silver

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post Jul 22 2010, 08:37 AM

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QUOTE(gaiachronicler @ Jul 21 2010, 09:15 PM)
using mr.hobby "gun chrome" no mixture added

but im using only phone camera

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

u can see that black handle for the dagger is the default mold color
it has a bit of the "light deflect" effect, just a bit, not much. more like chrome grey rather then silver
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I'm guessing the outcome will be different for larger and flat surfaces? Guess I'll need to get a hold of a mate of mine who owns an airbrush. Otherwise, will spraying the parts with industrial silver chrome paint do the job? I heard that industrial spray paints bond better to surfaces and its cheaper but it won't be as fine as hobby spray paints. True? icon_question.gif
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post Jul 22 2010, 02:59 PM

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hi Guys

Im trying to Mod the eye for my MG zaku and i do not where to find the battery holder >.< i have tried Ace h/w and a few DIY shop

No luck so far. below picture is how it looks like

user posted image


the outcome will be something like

user posted image

if sifu prof out there have any other method can please share smile.gif

thanks ^^
rayloke
post Jul 24 2010, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(hellforce @ Jul 22 2010, 02:59 PM)
hi Guys

Im trying to Mod the eye for my MG zaku and i do not where to find the battery holder >.< i have tried Ace h/w and a few DIY shop

No luck so far. below picture is how it looks like

user posted image
the outcome will be something like

user posted image

if sifu prof out there have any other method can please share smile.gif

thanks ^^
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Look for tkting.

Search MGS2u.com
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post Jul 25 2010, 08:12 PM

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Wah on holiday also semangat reply thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(wkyoong @ Jul 22 2010, 08:37 AM)
I'm guessing the outcome will be different for larger and flat surfaces? Guess I'll need to get a hold of a mate of mine who owns an airbrush. Otherwise, will spraying the parts with industrial silver chrome paint do the job? I heard that industrial spray paints bond better to surfaces and its cheaper but it won't be as fine as hobby spray paints. True?  icon_question.gif
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i remember they say nippon paint pylox brand can be painted on model kits. no damage caused. better to prime the part then spray the color u want for better bond.. <--- for spraying, i guess.
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is that Tamiya Mica Silver colour suit for Infinite Justice?

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