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post Aug 16 2010, 01:22 PM

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woh man.........veery nice bro ! biggrin.gif the photographing skill also very good biggrin.gif
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post Aug 25 2010, 01:40 PM

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For those who have fetish on blink blink and chrome finish stuff:



~ SMILE ~ !

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(Thank you Entau for the demo!)


Wave/Work's "Black Magic Powder" (Chrome Finish Polishing Powder) is a very useful material for creating chrome, mirror like metallic effect. The main problem we hear from various modelers is, Wave/Work has package them in too big of a pack. As a result, the price is high; especially for Malaysia modelers who majority still haven't got a chance to test it. The price is simply too much for an investment on something haven't been use in Malaysia.


Original packaging (click to see full size pic):
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Now small custom pack can be found in KL ady
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post Aug 25 2010, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(rayloke @ Aug 25 2010, 01:40 PM)
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holy cow that's shiny!! time to visit ICW for sifu Rayloke to teach! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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post Aug 25 2010, 04:53 PM

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Hi All

Need some help in identifying how this is done. I am trying to find out what is used to create the gold color piping in the picture that is connected to the thrusters and the sides. It is too small to be used sprues and too straight to be electrical wires. Any idea? Got this off www.ver-ed.com
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post Aug 25 2010, 11:46 PM

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rayloke thanks for news!!!! Now where can get that chrome stuff??? Hmm isit poisonous?
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post Aug 26 2010, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(shauno @ Aug 25 2010, 02:57 PM)
holy cow that's shiny!! time to visit ICW for sifu Rayloke to teach! biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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Not trying to advertise, just sharing result can be created only tongue.gif btw, there's a gathering on 30th august 8pm.... (mod, dont ban me...)

QUOTE(Jetpeh @ Aug 25 2010, 04:53 PM)
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Hi All

Need some help in identifying how this is done. I am trying to find out what is used to create the gold color piping in the picture that is connected to the thrusters and the sides. It is too small to be used sprues and too straight to be electrical wires. Any idea? Got this off www.ver-ed.com
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Hi, this is eday's work. The gold parts is one of his favorite mod, which he use brass wire, twist them n glue on the kit. Then prime the whole thing, color. In the end, he slowly use thinner to wash off the color on top of the brass wire and let the original metal color be shown.

I dont think he explain this in this project's wip. If u really wanna check, do read thru his old wip, he should have mentioned it. Else u can search http://www.zerogunz.com for his other old wips. I remember someone asked him the same thing before.


QUOTE(Ayam-man @ Aug 25 2010, 11:46 PM)
rayloke thanks for news!!!! Now where can get that chrome stuff??? Hmm isit poisonous?
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Actually we believe the contain is lead, pure lead. That's why it sticks. Years ago, newspaper was printed with lead, hence everytime after reading newspaper, our fingers are dark (I believe u r not born yet in that era tongue.gif) It should be toxic to consume by mouth. Besides that it really sticks onto your finger; so recommend to wear gloves.
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post Aug 26 2010, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(rayloke @ Aug 26 2010, 12:23 PM)
Not trying to advertise, just sharing result can be created only tongue.gif  btw, there's a gathering on 30th august 8pm.... (mod, dont ban me...)
Hi, this is eday's work. The gold parts is one of his favorite mod, which he use brass wire, twist them n glue on the kit. Then prime the whole thing, color. In the end, he slowly use thinner to wash off the color on top of the brass wire and let the original metal color be shown.

I dont think he explain this in this project's wip. If u really wanna check, do read thru his old wip, he should have mentioned it. Else u can search http://www.zerogunz.com for his other old wips. I remember someone asked him the same thing before.
Actually we believe the contain is lead, pure lead. That's why it sticks. Years ago, newspaper was printed with lead, hence everytime after reading newspaper, our fingers are dark (I believe u r not born yet in that era tongue.gif) It should be toxic to consume by mouth. Besides that it really sticks onto your finger; so recommend to wear gloves.
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Hi Rayloke

Thanks so much for the info. Yes it is from eday's work. Any idea where to buy the brass wire? I don't seem to see it in hardware stores or hobby stores locally.
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post Aug 26 2010, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(rayloke @ Aug 26 2010, 12:23 PM)
Not trying to advertise, just sharing result can be created only tongue.gif  btw, there's a gathering on 30th august 8pm.... (mod, dont ban me...)
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OT: oh! will go support if got time biggrin.gif rclxms.gif

time to ask back some valid question.. tongue.gif
saw a few tutorials before ppl using electric drills to either do battle damage or sand down the holes they made.. where to find those drills ah? doesn't seem too essential right?


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rayloke
post Aug 26 2010, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(Jetpeh @ Aug 26 2010, 02:49 PM)
Hi Rayloke

Thanks so much for the info. Yes it is from eday's work. Any idea where to buy the brass wire? I don't seem to see it in hardware stores or hobby stores locally.
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actually is the same brass wire/rod sold in hardware shop. The only difference is hardware shop might not carry that thickness (thinness:p) specially if u r looking for sizes like 0.3mm, 0,5mm etc. Besides that hardware shop usually sells in roll form; meaning the wire is already twisted into circular form; which is not good in modeling. U will want to have those straight ones if financially affordable.

Where to buy? AHEM Infinite Creation Workshop...... tongue.gif (trying not to advertise again)

Actually u can try mgs2u.com / tkting (the boss). I believe he does carry quite a full range of brass rod n wire. IF u r not from KL, he does postage too.


QUOTE(shauno @ Aug 26 2010, 03:37 PM)
OT: oh! will go support if got time biggrin.gif  rclxms.gif

time to ask back some valid question.. tongue.gif
saw a few tutorials before ppl using electric drills to either do battle damage or sand down the holes they made.. where to find those drills ah? doesn't seem too essential right?
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AHEM AHEM.......... tongue.gif (if u come Monday, can let u test.....)

U can try look for mgs2u.com, afhobby, or even pudu pasar road. There should be plenty of them.

Mainly there r 2 types, both manufactured in China.

1. the type with a fatter body. Advantage: consistent rotating speed, powerful, stable. but not speed adjust; and rotating speed is quite high. fatter body also means u cannot hold it like a pen or pencil. more clumsy for extreme fine work.

2. thinner body type. advantage: thinner body means u can hold it like a pen/pencil; easier control. With rotating speed adjust. Disadvantage: more inconsistent rotating speed. many of them with design of unable to detach ac/dc adapter; means if the ac/dc adapter kaput, might be a problem. * only comes with 1 holder; need to purchase other sizes holder (The part where u attach your drill bit, or sanding stone)


Price average from RM60+~ slightly over RM100.




Option 3, buy japan stuff. darn good to use, but u must be prepare to squeeze your wallet.....

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post Aug 26 2010, 08:17 PM

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Rayloke

Thanks for the help...will look up those ppl.


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QUOTE(rayloke @ Aug 25 2010, 01:40 PM)
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Now small custom pack can be found in KL ady
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May I know the full name for this paint set? How much is it roughly and which shops carry these?

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post Aug 27 2010, 02:17 PM

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May I know the full name for this paint set? How much is it roughly and which shops carry these?
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This is not paint, it's dry.

Btw, if u dont mind getting the whole box, which i think cost around RM70, u can go online shop. hobby search n hwj not carrying this. HLJ yes, back ordered now.

That's the reason why we repack them into smaller pack to sell. Imagine what entau did with his spoon is just like a sesame seed size patch. If u buy the whole packet, might last you whole life tongue.gif

Local shop carrying this (repack) as far as i know is mgs2u.com and Infinite Creation Workshop (ICW)

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Hi. I'm new here. Just want to know whether I can direct spray my figure without the primer. Because i know primer is the 1st thing to do b4 u spray. Thanks
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QUOTE(rayloke @ Aug 27 2010, 02:17 PM)
This is not paint, it's dry.

Btw, if u dont mind getting the whole box, which i think cost around RM70, u can go online shop. hobby search n hwj not carrying this. HLJ yes, back ordered now.

That's the reason why we repack them into smaller pack to sell. Imagine what entau did with his spoon is just like a sesame seed size patch. If u buy the whole packet, might last you whole life tongue.gif

Local shop carrying this (repack) as far as i know is mgs2u.com and Infinite Creation Workshop (ICW)
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the demo done on white plastic spoon and i assume there is no coloring involved. the effect actually polish straight out from the white plastic spoon? that's all? i wonder how is the outcome if done it on color plastic? laugh.gif
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post Aug 29 2010, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(stanleysum @ Aug 29 2010, 03:28 PM)
the demo done on white plastic spoon and i assume there is no coloring involved. the effect actually polish straight out from the white plastic spoon? that's all? i wonder how is the outcome if done it on color plastic?  laugh.gif
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hmmm i am more oncern about if its easily chip or fade? icon_question.gif
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QUOTE(stanleysum @ Aug 29 2010, 03:28 PM)
the demo done on white plastic spoon and i assume there is no coloring involved. the effect actually polish straight out from the white plastic spoon? that's all? i wonder how is the outcome if done it on color plastic?  laugh.gif
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ok to achieve that kinda mirror finish chrome, actually the surface finishing before applying the powder is extremely important.

The spoon is a spoon with color, which entau used for color testing during his last project. It's a fine polished gun metal

Though the powder "rubbing time" was actually less than 3 minutes, but the surface finishing before that takes hours (Well, in modeling, everything takes hours.....)

if u didn't do well on the surface finish, u will still get chrome, but not mirror finish. Imagine those cheap plated spoon where u can see imperfection on their chrome.


QUOTE(Ayam-man @ Aug 29 2010, 08:20 PM)
hmmm i am more oncern about if its easily chip or fade? icon_question.gif
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It's pretty much similar to those metalizer paint, eg MR hobyy metalizer paint (The type of metal paint which require u to buff after spraying).
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I'm planning to use it on car head lights, but as you know the area is very small and pretty difficult to reach by rubbing as it's narrow & not flat. Wondering would the powder be good?

Right now it's painted with mr.color metallic silver, it's nothing close to chrome but i plan to finish the car soon so wondering should i try this metal powder?
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Guys, is there any way for clear parts to glow like this? I remember got one modeller did the same to glow Unicorn's internal parts smile.gif
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post Aug 31 2010, 02:01 PM

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actually it's not glow in the dark paint.. it's UV paint..
with UV light then it'll glow...

EDIT: ah yes, it's called fluorescent paint not UV paint.. lol

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QUOTE(golbeza @ Aug 31 2010, 01:43 PM)
Guys, is there any way for clear parts to glow like this? I remember got one modeller did the same to glow Unicorn's internal parts smile.gif
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AFAIK, any fluorescent color paint will do the trick. You'll need UV light to make them glow though (Very nice if you do panel lining with them).

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