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post Jul 30 2010, 11:11 AM

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I know the mechanism inside. I been told by apple engineer, it's design to be like this
I forgot what's within the hinge design, but the operation is something like it sense you open it, then it activate something the help on opening, then when u close it, it locked internally until certain amout of force applied

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post Jul 30 2010, 11:53 AM

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Has anyone else had problem with pitting/corrosion on the hand rest of their aluminum unibody MBPs? I've only had mine for some 2 months and little black specs/pits are starting to show up where I usually rest my wrists. I am NOT. HAPPY.
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post Jul 30 2010, 12:18 PM

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QUOTE(angrydog @ Jul 30 2010, 11:53 AM)
Has anyone else had problem with pitting/corrosion on the hand rest of their aluminum unibody MBPs?  I've only had mine for some 2 months and little black specs/pits are starting to show up where I usually rest my wrists.  I am NOT.  HAPPY.
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do u mind posting some pics of the affected areas? would like to have a look hmm.gif btw u could consider using a moshi palmguard to prevent it.
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post Jul 30 2010, 12:20 PM

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QUOTE(gurus @ Jul 30 2010, 12:18 PM)
do u mind posting some pics of the affected areas? would like to have a look  hmm.gif  btw u could consider using a moshi palmguard to prevent it.
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How effective will the palmguard be???

as i can see, it covers the top part, not the edges, i fear the most is the heat, place a plastic on top, plus the mbp has no proper ventilation like an alienware or a hp envy..
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post Jul 30 2010, 12:28 PM

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QUOTE(LYW @ Jul 30 2010, 12:20 PM)
How effective will the palmguard be???

as i can see, it covers the top part, not the edges, i fear the most is the heat, place a plastic on top, plus the mbp has no proper ventilation like an alienware or a hp envy..
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I thought the mbp do has a proper ventilation? rclxub.gif
Isn't the hot air went out through the black part behind the mbp?
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post Jul 30 2010, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(LYW @ Jul 30 2010, 12:20 PM)
How effective will the palmguard be???

as i can see, it covers the top part, not the edges, i fear the most is the heat, place a plastic on top, plus the mbp has no proper ventilation like an alienware or a hp envy..
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the palmguard is not a piece of plastic...its more to a thin metal sticker... and yes it can help u prevent almost any stains on the palmrest.
well as it says "palmguard", i dont see a reason why it should cover the edges? and the mbp does not heat up on the palmrest area as well.. at least for me sweat.gif

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post Jul 30 2010, 12:35 PM

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it actually does, the left side, try doing intensive application for 2 hours on the go. u will definitely feel the heat, although is not scorching hot, it is beginning to worry me, but the i7 chip have gone to the extend where i can feel the heat thru the black keyboard..

Is there any other guard that like protects at least the edges as well?? like u know when u rest ur hand while typing or using the trackpad???

Im finding one but all i can find is the moshi palmguard

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post Jul 30 2010, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(gurus @ Jul 30 2010, 12:18 PM)
do u mind posting some pics of the affected areas? would like to have a look  hmm.gif  btw u could consider using a moshi palmguard to prevent it.
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Try using Mr Clean Magic Eraser. It worked almost instant laugh.gif
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QUOTE(leyley @ Jul 30 2010, 01:37 PM)
Try using Mr Clean Magic Eraser. It worked almost instant laugh.gif
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is this even safe???? sounds fishy man, can u upload the photo???
how much is it??? any side effects?
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post Jul 30 2010, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(angrydog @ Jul 30 2010, 11:53 AM)
Has anyone else had problem with pitting/corrosion on the hand rest of their aluminum unibody MBPs?  I've only had mine for some 2 months and little black specs/pits are starting to show up where I usually rest my wrists.  I am NOT.  HAPPY.
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i had this on my older 2006 MBP, caused by sweaty hands. u should seriously consider a palmrest protector like the moshi palmguard


Added on July 30, 2010, 2:21 pm
QUOTE(LYW @ Jul 30 2010, 12:20 PM)
How effective will the palmguard be???

as i can see, it covers the top part, not the edges, i fear the most is the heat, place a plastic on top, plus the mbp has no proper ventilation like an alienware or a hp envy..
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angrydog was talking about the corrosion thing, not heat. palmguard and magic eraser was suggested to avoid it, but they have nothing to do with your issue: heat

aluminium MBPs are hot because of the aluminium material, a good heat conductor. the whole body kinda serves as a heatsink. heat is transferred from the inside to the alu body, and to the ambience. this is similar to the HP envy, another aluminium body notebook. im not sure about alienware, but their thicker size should accomodate

the hottest part should be the section between the keyboard and screen anyway. the palmrest never felt hot to me, juz warm.

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QUOTE(SheepMekk @ Jul 30 2010, 01:02 AM)
Woohoo just installed windows the other day laugh.gif working well and it asked me to install some anti-virus for it. Should I? I mean if my windows gets virus, will it affect my mac?
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Get Microsoft Security Essentials, turn on your firewall and make sure to keep your browser and its plugins up to date. Count yourself lucky you get a virus that's sole purpose was to crash your computer, and not install rootkits to steal your passwords.
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Guys, I'm going to upgrade my RAM for
Macbook Pro 2400 MB470J/A (15.4 inch, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz(3MB) )
from 2GB to 4GB, please provide your best recommended RAM which is available in the market. THX
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post Jul 30 2010, 07:25 PM

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QUOTE(angrydog @ Jul 30 2010, 11:53 AM)
Has anyone else had problem with pitting/corrosion on the hand rest of their aluminum unibody MBPs?  I've only had mine for some 2 months and little black specs/pits are starting to show up where I usually rest my wrists.  I am NOT.  HAPPY.
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Corrosion on alu?
Wow, Alu will only corrode in certain special case, certainly not u can do in normal case


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QUOTE(hybr1d3d @ Jul 30 2010, 04:08 PM)
Guys, I'm going to upgrade my RAM for
Macbook Pro 2400 MB470J/A (15.4 inch, Intel Core 2 Duo 2.4GHz(3MB) )
from 2GB to 4GB, please provide your best recommended RAM which is available in the market. THX
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QUOTE(cRazYee @ Jul 30 2010, 07:25 PM)
Corrosion on alu?
Wow, Alu will only corrode in certain special case, certainly not u can do in normal case


Added on July 30, 2010, 7:26 pm
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to be honest, im not sure if it's corrosion or not, but it is possible for aluminium to corrde. they were black spots, and they're definitely not stains

it looked something like this:
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source: http://www.loeff.de/Apr2001.html

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post Jul 30 2010, 08:23 PM

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Alu will corrode at very aggressive environment
I don't think our sweat is aggressive enough

Maybe u can send back to apple for this case

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post Jul 30 2010, 09:40 PM

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I don't use hand creams or anything, and I don't wear a watch/jewelry, so the only cause of the corrosion I can think of is my sweat. They look like black specks (a bit like in dvlz's photo, but smaller), except that when you run your finger over them you can feel the pit/depression! It's terrifying. I'm going to take it over to the service center downtown next to the Australian High Commission on Monday for the staff to take photos and tell me what can be done.
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post Jul 30 2010, 10:24 PM

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Hi All,

My HP died... and am in a dilemma to get a Dell or Mac for replacement...

Mainly for personal use, just normal surfing, chatting, blogging, MS Office, and Programming in SQL and .NET probably...

Am very tempted to get the MBP... but I've some queries, hoping anyone here to shed some light on... Thanks in advance..

i) I have external hdd in NTFS format, well, typical Windows, so, can Mac OS reads from and writes into the hdd? If not, can the Windows inside the bootcamp reads from and writes into the hdd?

ii) How long a MBP can usually last a typical, careful and considerate user? Not bringing around that much...

iii) Can files be transferred between the MAC OS and the bootcamp Windows?

I'm very tempted to get the Mac but I'm worried about the incompatibility issues with lots of things...
please help..

Thanks!
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anyone getting StarCraft2 and using ur Mac to play?
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QUOTE(angrydog @ Jul 30 2010, 09:40 PM)
I don't use hand creams or anything, and I don't wear a watch/jewelry, so the only cause of the corrosion I can think of is my sweat.  They look like black specks (a bit like in dvlz's photo, but smaller), except that when you run your finger over them you can feel the pit/depression!  It's terrifying.  I'm going to take it over to the service center downtown next to the Australian High Commission on Monday for the staff to take photos and tell me what can be done.
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yeap that's it... can feel the small pits. glad to know im not alone smile.gif

QUOTE(miaka_tama @ Jul 30 2010, 10:24 PM)
Hi All,

My HP died... and am in a dilemma to get a Dell or Mac for replacement...

Mainly for personal use, just normal surfing, chatting, blogging, MS Office, and Programming in SQL and .NET probably...

Am very tempted to get the MBP... but I've some queries, hoping anyone here to shed some light on... Thanks in advance..

i) I have external hdd in NTFS format, well, typical Windows, so, can Mac OS reads from and writes into the hdd? If not, can the Windows inside the bootcamp reads from and writes into the hdd?

ii) How long a MBP can usually last a typical, careful and considerate user? Not bringing around that much...

iii) Can files be transferred between the MAC OS and the bootcamp Windows?

I'm very tempted to get the Mac but I'm worried about the incompatibility issues with lots of things...
please help..

Thanks!
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i) juz install ntfs-3g n you're good to go!

ii) hard to answer this question. the aluminium build, the hinge etc is definitely sturdier than most plastic laptops. as for the components, depends on ur luck i guess, could be 2, 5 or even 8 years. there was a high-profile research comparing notebook quality from different brands, n apple ranked 4th after asus, sony and toshiba. take what you will from that. but it's good to know that ACPP provides pretty good customer service, n macs typically have relatively higher resale value too

iii) normal copy n paste

for programming i think running windows in a virtual machine would be sufficient. but then im not a programmer lah, juz based on my limited experience doing courseworks tongue.gif

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post Jul 31 2010, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(dvlzplayground @ Jul 30 2010, 08:57 AM)
if ur windows gets virus, it'll just affect ur windows, not ur mac.

however, rmember that u might transfer an infected file into mac. it still wont affect ur mac, but if (in OSX) u share the infected file with someone else, they can get infected

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lol.. so bad to non Mac user sweat.gif btw.. how u guys clear those .exe virus in thumbdrive using mac.. if those viruses are locked? and cant be unlocked in the info?

QUOTE(LYW @ Jul 30 2010, 12:20 PM)
How effective will the palmguard be???

as i can see, it covers the top part, not the edges, i fear the most is the heat, place a plastic on top, plus the mbp has no proper ventilation like an alienware or a hp envy..
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i m using Moshi Palmguard.. and i can say that it is perfect for your MBP!! highly recommended..


Added on July 31, 2010, 12:47 ambtw.. someone experience can start a new thread for the MBP soon.. i m not very active.. so i think maybe crazyee or dvdplayground can do it?

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