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damonlbs
post Jun 7 2010, 02:22 PM

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post Jun 7 2010, 02:28 PM

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QUOTE(LightJunk @ Jun 7 2010, 02:00 AM)
Hi susuman,

It is HA. It comes with P60 but no box. 2 surefire batteries included. PM replied to.
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Lightjunk,

What's the difference between HA & BK? blush.gif
uncle wong
post Jun 7 2010, 03:18 PM

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Xeno & Farka GB V2
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Date Received 7 June 2010
Time : 2.50Pm
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jchong
post Jun 7 2010, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(uncle wong @ Jun 7 2010, 01:22 PM)
According to bigchelis from CPF
The Leggion II SST-50 did similar OTF and is driven at similar (3.5A) current, so now Catapult V2 is not alone.
Bigchelis  other tests with SST-50 lights showed they perform 500 OTF at 2.5~3A .
Catapult V2 driven at 2.2 ~ 2.5A , but to get things really interesting you need to push these to 4.5A~5A.
If SST-50 driven at 5A , Heat Sink will be a big problem .

Thrunite advertise the MAx LED lumens is 1000 lumens from the spec of luminus SST-50 .
When tested , the OTF Is 600 lumens . Thrunite never advertise OTF Lumens .
A bit dissappointment with the output but at least Thrunite didnt cheat .
Actually I think the Catapult V2 is driven at 3.5A whereas V1 was at 3.0A
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post Jun 7 2010, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(uncle wong @ Jun 7 2010, 03:18 PM)
Xeno & Farka GB V2
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Date Received 7 June 2010
Time : 2.50Pm
Will Sent Out Tomorrow
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LightJunk
post Jun 7 2010, 08:33 PM

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QUOTE(LightJunk @ Jun 6 2010, 11:33 AM)
Hi Guys,

Anybody interested in a mint Surefire C2 Centurion? I am selling just the host and bulb it came with. Body is not bored. Twisty tailcap.No dings & scratches. Used for less than 10 minutes together with the Linger R5 Special. Drop-in not for sale. I'll include 2 original Surefire batteries.

It's the one in the middle.
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Asking for RM350 RM330 shipped PosLaju to your doorstep.

First to reply to this post gets it. I can ship this tomorrow.

Cheers,
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QUOTE(caver @ Jun 7 2010, 02:28 PM)
Lightjunk,

What's the difference between HA & BK?  blush.gif
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This is black.
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This is HA(Hard Anodised)
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Added on June 7, 2010, 8:49 pm
QUOTE(Striderman @ Jun 7 2010, 08:22 AM)
How come I missed this one.
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Next time Striderman, next time...hehehe


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susuman
post Jun 8 2010, 12:47 AM

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QUOTE(LightJunk @ Jun 7 2010, 08:33 PM)
SOLD to susuman  rclxms.gif . Have fun with the new toy  brows.gif  brows.gif .

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I will, perfect gift for my self. Can't wait for it to arrive tomorrow. drool.gif
uncle wong
post Jun 8 2010, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jun 7 2010, 04:55 PM)
Actually I think the Catapult V2 is driven at 3.5A whereas V1 was at 3.0A
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bigchelis test 1.9A at tail .
My friend test 2.1A at tail .
I not yet tested cuz my V2 still on the way to M,sia .
Will test when i receive maybe tis week .

Bro jchong , u can test it with multimeter .

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post Jun 8 2010, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(uncle wong @ Jun 8 2010, 10:36 AM)
bigchelis test 1.9A at tail .
My friend test 2.1A at tail .
I not yet tested cuz my V2 still on the way to M,sia .
Will test when i receive maybe tis week .

Bro jchong , u can test it with multimeter .
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Just note that tail current and the emitter current is different.

Fully regulated emitter current will be like the manufacture claimed, constant at 3.5A
But the tail cap current may be less if uses 2 cells, and it will increase as the voltage of the battery dropped.

Just FYI, record the voltage of the battery (or total of the batteries ) when measure the tail cap current, then multiply the current drawn, you will get the waltage (Watt), this is more reliable way to compare. Anyway, actual wattage to emitter is less (driver circuit take some toll on it (efficiency))
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post Jun 8 2010, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Jun 8 2010, 10:54 AM)
Just note that tail current and the emitter current is different.

Fully regulated emitter current will be like the manufacture claimed, constant at 3.5A
But the tail cap current may be less if uses 2 cells, and it will increase as the voltage of the battery dropped.

Just FYI, record the voltage of the battery (or total of the batteries ) when measure the tail cap current, then multiply the current drawn, you will get the waltage (Watt), this is more reliable way to compare. Anyway, actual wattage to emitter is less (driver circuit take some toll on it (efficiency))
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post Jun 8 2010, 11:31 AM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Jun 8 2010, 10:54 AM)
Just FYI, record the voltage of the battery (or total of the batteries ) when measure the tail cap current,
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Yup, just for further clarification - you have to measure the voltage when the light is turned ON. (This is because the voltage when it's on is lower than when it's off. For example, your cell may read 4.1V when being tested with the light off, but when the light is on, it may drop down to say 3.8V)

Unfortunately, for most lights, it's hard to measure the voltage when it's on.
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post Jun 8 2010, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(uncle wong @ Jun 8 2010, 11:10 AM)
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The catapult is 2 cells? So it pulls 2A from the tail cap, it will be around 16W (assume battery was 8V and Current is 2A). if the SST50 is 3.5V claimed by manufacturer, at vf 3.7V (guess only), the SST50 is around 13W. So it is pretty normal for the current at tailcap you stated above. The different of 3W is the loss in efficiency .


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post Jun 8 2010, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(susuman @ Jun 8 2010, 11:32 AM)
The catapult is 2 cells? So it pulls 2A from the tail cap, it will be around 16W  (assume battery was 8V and Current is 2A). if the SST50 is 3.5V claimed by manufacturer, at vf 3.7V (guess only), the SST50 is around  13W. So it is pretty normal for the current at tailcap you stated above. The different of 3W is the loss in efficiency .
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SST-50 at 13Watt .
OTF 600 lumens
Tat mean need to pull at above 4.5A to get more lumens .
But heat sinking will be a big problem sweat.gif
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post Jun 8 2010, 11:56 AM

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QUOTE(uncle wong @ Jun 8 2010, 11:44 AM)
SST-50 at 13Watt .
OTF 600 lumens
Tat mean need to pull at above 4.5A to get more lumens .
But heat sinking will be a big problem  sweat.gif
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Uncle, all are my assumption, I did not check the technical spec of the SST 50 sweat.gif
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post Jun 8 2010, 01:00 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Jun 5 2010, 06:43 PM)
Going by % terms, I guess the V2 is as claimed. ThruNite claims the V2 is about 11% brighter than V1 (1000 vs 900 lumens). From selfbuilt's numbers the throw is 9% higher and ceiling bounce is 9.8% higher.

But the disappointing thing is that in absolute terms the OTF lumens is only 600 (vs 1000 as claimed). So ThruNite's claim is way overstated. This is not good.
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Didn't I post somewhere earlier that Thrunite's claims are all max emitter lumens? You should already be aware of this.

In my book, this is a manufacturer I'll stay away from. No different from Super ultra spider Fire and 280 lumens from a XR-E Q5. Sad..

But that's just me, thrunite is of course not the same as the fires but to me, how a manufacturer rates it's product tells me a lot about the manufacturer. Just my preferences. =D
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post Jun 8 2010, 11:45 PM

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TK45 Review (XP-G R4 Testing Sample)

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post Jun 9 2010, 11:44 AM

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thanks mr wong for great gb.. and also taking ur time wrapping so thick that i need to take time to open it.. hahaha have tried the torch loving it... the quality and the brightness and the modes hahaha.


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post Jun 9 2010, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Jun 8 2010, 01:00 PM)
Didn't I post somewhere earlier that Thrunite's claims are all max emitter lumens? You should already be aware of this.

In my book, this is a manufacturer I'll stay away from. No different from Super ultra spider Fire and 280 lumens from a XR-E Q5. Sad..

But that's just me, thrunite is of course not the same as the fires but to me, how a manufacturer rates it's product tells me a lot about the manufacturer. Just my preferences. =D
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Yes, I'm aware Thrunite quoted emitter lumens. But what I assumed is the normal 20-25% loss for reflector/head, so OTF would be 750-800 lumens. Since the tested OTF is 600 lumens, means the loss is 40% - which is higher than normal.

So why is the loss 40%? Is it due to poor reflector/head design? Some people say deeper heads for throw will lose more % - I dunno. Or maybe specs from Luminus are overstated? Who knows?
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post Jun 9 2010, 02:50 PM

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Long time not posted my flashlights. It's time for some updates. hmm.gif Here I present my SST-50 emitters lights.
L-R : 2D-M@g, Thrunite, UltraFire from Dx, FiveMag with TLS-3, VX with Turbo Force, Tiablo A9 with SST-50 and lastly my EDC vx-ultra. icon_rolleyes.gif
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All using SMO reflector except my EDC, vx-ultra rclxm9.gif
Some indoor shots with white wall too. brows.gif
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Reflector shots, sorry I simply cannot take out the thrunite reflector (glass almost broke and scratched still cannot open) mad.gif
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Hope these photos gives you an idea of some different size to compare. notworthy.gif

uncle wong
post Jun 9 2010, 03:44 PM

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Bro jwjy , to take out the Catapult reflector .Take out the bezel , u need to push very hard the reflector to front from back .

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