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 Astro B.yond V4.1, WELCOME TO THE NEW WORLD OF HD

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AjkR06
post May 30 2010, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(TallJustin @ May 30 2010, 04:25 PM)


2) is the a new decoder with in built PVR. it's got 2 tuners so allows recording of 2 simulateous shows and if I've got this rigth playback of a 3rd all at the same time. Personally I've not tested this box.
It will require a special dual LNB that naturally have 2 cables coming to the box to feed the two tuners.

The PVR features aren't just about recording I find that the pause live broadcast feature is awesome. My phone rings, my baby craps her nappy or what ever I just hit pause and deal with it and then come back and hit play to take off from where I left.

Another little secret I discovered is that not only can you pause but rewind to watch that goal again and lets say you've been watching a programme from the start and you really get it into it and want to watch it again then just hit record. If you haven't changed channel during the broadcast of the show the HDD will automatically go back and keep the recording of the entire show for you.

The major thing you will find is that you watch TV differently. No longer do you just turn the box on and watch, now you turn the box on and sellect what you want to watch from the recording you have made. Kind of TiVo like.

To make this recording function better then the old astro max we are spending a lot of time improving the quality of the EPG. shortly you'll notice the start times of programmes will be far more accurate. As you know Malaysian law requires that we censor programmes & remove foregin commercials before they are broadcast and we do this in almost all our international channels live with a special delay system that holds the incoming video until it is edited and then it gets published. Problem with a PVR and this delay system is that you often would miss the end part of a show as it ran over the EPG scheduled time. We will be tweaking our EPG to compensate for this.

This is going to be a busy week for Astro and I hpoe you like what is coming.

Sorry I've been MIA on here, working on the data behind the EPG and my new baby girl click HERE (isn't she cute!) has meant that I've been too busy to drop by. Got any questions drop then on my blog. I reply to everyone and I do not censor your comments.

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Yeah! our sifu already came and give very good description about the new astro PVR.. Congratulations for your new born baby girl.... biggrin.gif She's so cute...
Actually, I'm more interested for the new PVR box than connecting external HDD to my present Byond tongue.gif
May I know, is that possible for me who already owned Byond to change to new Astro PVR? hmm.gif
And I need to change the new dish + lnb also?


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post May 30 2010, 05:08 PM

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Good News! but I'm more concern on the cost incurred for both external HDD and new PVR decoder. Any hints Justin?
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post May 30 2010, 05:13 PM

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QUOTE(dannychen @ May 30 2010, 05:08 PM)
Good News! but I'm more concern on the cost incurred for both external HDD and new PVR decoder. Any hints Justin?
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Nah sorry I don't know the costing info.


Added on May 30, 2010, 5:15 pm
QUOTE(AjkR06 @ May 30 2010, 05:06 PM)
Actually, I'm more interested for the new PVR box than connecting external HDD to my present Byond  tongue.gif
May I know, is that possible for me who already owned Byond to change to new Astro PVR?  hmm.gif
And I need to change the new dish + lnb also?
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Yes you can change and it will mean a new LNB, whether they change the dish I'm not sure? The dish is actually the same it is only the LNB that is different.

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Is it possible to playback video from HD-PVR to PC? icon_question.gif
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post May 30 2010, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(TallJustin @ May 30 2010, 04:25 PM)
1) Will be for existing b.yond decoder where you plug in a HDD into the back of the system. I've been testing this for a while now and it's a little gem.

THe HDD must be a drive that meets our power consumtion white paper for the decoder and at the moment the only one that I'm aware of that does this is a WD HDD (I'm using a WD My Passport AV). Others suck up too much power and they will will not work. THe recording quality is broadcast quality, so HD is played back in HD.

2) is the a new decoder with in built PVR. it's got 2 tuners so allows recording of 2 simulateous shows and if I've got this rigth playback of a 3rd all at the same time. Personally I've not tested this box.
It will require a special dual LNB that naturally have 2 cables coming to the box to feed the two tuners.

The PVR features aren't just about recording I find that the pause live broadcast feature is awesome. My phone rings, my baby craps her nappy or what ever I just hit pause and deal with it and then come back and hit play to take off from where I left.

Another little secret I discovered is that not only can you pause but rewind to watch that goal again and lets say you've been watching a programme from the start and you really get it into it and want to watch it again then just hit record. If you haven't changed channel during the broadcast of the show the HDD will automatically go back and keep the recording of the entire show for you.

The major thing you will find is that you watch TV differently. No longer do you just turn the box on and watch, now you turn the box on and sellect what you want to watch from the recording you have made. Kind of TiVo like.

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I do have some questions though bro..
1) For the 1st functions, do current Byond customers get the HDD through Astro or they have to get it themselves in the open market? coz it may be difficult for some to find the required HDD for the decoder..

2) For the 2nd function, what is needed go be changed by the customers? It sounds like maybe the dish and the decoder needs to be changed perhaps?

3)n for the little secrets that u have given away, which PVR does that apply to? the 1st or the 2nd?

is it safe to say Byonders need to at least upgrade to the 1st function to have a taste of these PVR features?

Thanks in advance bro icon_rolleyes.gif

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post May 30 2010, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(writesimply @ May 30 2010, 04:56 PM)
I understand how the white paper requires a HDD that consumes a maximum amount of voltage from the B.yond decoder, but what about HDDs that have their own external power supply, like 1/2TB external HDDs? Theoretically they should work since all they are taking from the PC/B.yond box is the data.

Having 1TB external HDD connecting to B.yond would mean that subscribers do not need to upgrade their HDDs every so often, or having to delete programs.
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I don't know the answer but will find out for you. Give me a few days.

QUOTE(writesimply @ May 30 2010, 04:56 PM)

On your second point, it sounds like you'd need a dual-SIM card system for the PVR. It also suggests that the LNB must tune to different streams to record them both. Enlighten us as to how LNB tuning per channel works.
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Nah its all controlled by the conditional access system that controls your card.

The dual LNB is basically 2 recievers built into the casing of one thus allowing 2 outputs.

QUOTE(writesimply @ May 30 2010, 04:56 PM)
I do hope that the PVR/B.yond recording function would allow a cache (roughly about 30 minutes) of video being temporarily recorded as you are watching a channel. That way if you find that program is interesting, you could press record and the cache will make it possible that you have the entire program from the start.
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Yes that was what I was describing.
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post May 30 2010, 05:25 PM

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huhu

this thread is damn active when TallJustin comes in
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post May 30 2010, 05:26 PM

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I hope the new PVR will be much more stable than the Astro Max as I'm still keeping it aside since last December.
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QUOTE(dannychen @ May 30 2010, 05:26 PM)
I hope the new PVR will be much more stable than the Astro Max as I'm still keeping it aside since last December.
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I already 'surrender' my Max for Byond.... sad.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ May 30 2010, 05:28 PM)
I already 'surrender' my Max for Byond....  sad.gif  doh.gif
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I didn't surrender it because it cost more than "RM80". Hope this decision are right.

By the way, will Astro remove your Astro Max for waiver of the Installation Fees?

Astro B.Yond FAQ:
How do I sign up for Astro B.yond Box?

You may click here to subscribe online, call Astro Customer Service at 1300 82 3838 or visit an Astro service centre, to get the new Astro B.yond Box and subscribe to the High-Definition service.
Existing Astro Customers:
Astro customers can swap out your current Astro box with the new Astro B.yond Box by clicking here to subscribe online or by calling Astro customer Service on 1300 82 3838.
You will receive the Astro B.yond Box, a new smartcard, a new outdoor dish unit (ODU), new remote control, and HDMI cables free of charge, on the condition that you return your current Astro box and commit to take up the high definition channels at RM20.00 per month, for a minimum of 12 months, which will allow you to enjoy the high definition channels of the standard definition channels available on your current subscription. If you want to keep your current Astro box, you are required to pay a RM100.00 standard installation fee.
Once you have confirmed your interest and agree to the Terms & Condition, we will process your requests accordingly on a first come, first served basis.Please note that Astro Max will not be swapped out.
New customers:
If you are new to Astro and would like to get the new Astro B.yond Box and subsequently view the high definition channels, you will have to sign up to the current Astro standard definition packages while we process your application for the new Astro B.yond Box.
You will be given the standard definition Astro box, complete with the free standard installation, while waiting for the new Astro B.yond Box. Once the Astro B.yond Box is available, we will call you to arrange for an exchange.
You will receive the Astro B.yond Box, a new smartcard, a new outdoor dish unit (ODU), a new remote control, and HDMI cables free of charge on the condition that you return the other Astro box, remote control, smartcard, ODU and commit to take up the high definition channels at RM20.00 per month for a minimum of 12 months, which will allow you to enjoy the high definition channels of the standard definition channels available on your current subscription.

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cost rm80 to surrender?

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QUOTE(dxjb @ May 30 2010, 04:59 PM)
Congratulations to bro TallJustin and ur ex deejay wife on that cute lil child u have now!
Now that will really MAKE YOUR LIFE BETTER..! smile.gif

N thanks for ur heads up on this new PVR functions TallJustin!
as always u are the calming person in any discussion..at least u talk the facts unlike those who talk as if they're a pro but are to selfish and arrogant to share their knowledge with us..
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I share your views, One must be humble not talk too much act like pro rclxms.gif


Added on May 30, 2010, 5:35 pmI gave up my Max cos it is not gonna serve any purpose there went my RM900 ! cry.gif

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Does the recording enabled for early b.yond adopter now or just in time for World Cup? Thanks.
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I dont mind they sell the PVR for a nominal price But pls no extra monthly fees , budget banyak lari !!! Beh tahan !!
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QUOTE(dannychen @ May 30 2010, 05:30 PM)
I didn't surrender it because it cost more than "RM80". Hope this decision are right.

By the way, will Astro remove your Astro Max for waiver of the Installation Fees?

Astro B.Yond FAQ:
How do I sign up for Astro B.yond Box?

Please note that Astro Max will not be swapped out.

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Yes, I surrender my Max for installation fee waiver.
Because I think, Max will be useless if I keep it.., so I gave up it.
The installer who came to my house to install Byond last December feel really shocked that I'm willing to change my decoder to Byond that did not have any PVR function like Max. ohmy.gif
eh, but I can swapped my Max....

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QUOTE(mitodna @ May 30 2010, 05:36 PM)
Does the recording enabled for early b.yond adopter now or just in time for World Cup? Thanks.
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May be your installer fork out his RM 80 and keep the Astro Max for his own use.
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QUOTE(dannychen @ May 30 2010, 05:42 PM)
May be your installer fork out his RM 80 and keep the Astro Max for his own use.
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Hmm.. I have no idea for your statement. But who know what they, installer will do "behind the scene"... blink.gif
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ May 30 2010, 05:43 PM)
Hmm.. I have no idea for your statement. But who know what they, installer will do "behind the scene"...  blink.gif
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I said this because they can either keep it for their own use or sell it to someone else at higher cost. For example, RM150 or etc.
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Max had many problems keeping it served no purpose to me. But in future we shld not fork too much money to buy any devices like this. Just like Beyond box bettter take it for free if kong get another one, free cannot open new a/c and get it free sweat.gif RM900 for Max and to swap for RM80 was a costly mistake hmm.gif

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