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veilside2010
post Nov 10 2010, 08:46 PM

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Dialog = Final Single Tier Cash Dividend of 18%
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post Nov 10 2010, 08:51 PM

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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Nov 10 2010, 08:46 PM)
Dialog = Final Single Tier Cash Dividend of 18%
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1.8sen only bcos the par share value is 10sen.

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post Nov 10 2010, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 10 2010, 09:51 PM)
1.8sen only bcos the par share value is 10sen.

Do not curse me, just to update you.
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lol thats y need to read carefully . Don become a victim just becos of this.... Very innocent. sweat.gif
rayloo
post Nov 10 2010, 09:07 PM

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If I am not mistaken, SunwayReit plans to distribute dividend in every quaters. Then shall be 1.51 cents x 4 = 6.04 cents annually.

Not bad for those bought from IPO @ 6.7% return. Even boleh tahan for today closed price @ 6% return.

What you say ?
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post Nov 10 2010, 09:12 PM

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QUOTE(rayloo @ Nov 10 2010, 10:07 PM)
If I am not mistaken, SunwayReit plans to distribute dividend in every quaters. Then shall be 1.51 cents x 4 = 6.04 cents annually.

Not bad for those bought from IPO @ 6.7% return. Even boleh tahan for today closed price @ 6% return.

What you say ?
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For me to pick up reits counter. i will look into 2 criteria.

1. Yield
2. Properties Portfolio
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post Nov 10 2010, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(rayloo @ Nov 10 2010, 09:07 PM)
If I am not mistaken, SunwayReit plans to distribute dividend in every quaters. Then shall be 1.51 cents x 4 = 6.04 cents annually.

Not bad for those bought from IPO @ 6.7% return. Even boleh tahan for today closed price @ 6% return.

What you say ?
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I would say it is bad because most other REITS giving about 8%. To get 6% DY, might as well buy stocks.
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post Nov 10 2010, 09:48 PM

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how come the appeal of Sunreit/CMMT is so great? 6% and people are still buying?

for me i'll take those with yields in the upper bands of the industry like arreit, axreit and hektar
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QUOTE(SKY 1809 @ Nov 10 2010, 08:51 PM)
1.8sen only bcos the par share value is 10sen.

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Opss..sorry see wrongly !!! blush.gif
Btw SUNREIT is laggest asset ~~ I think the counter RM1.50 without problem ! nod.gif
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post Nov 10 2010, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Nov 10 2010, 09:53 PM)
Opss..sorry see wrongly !!!  blush.gif
Btw SUNREIT is laggest asset ~~ I think the counter RM1.50 without problem !  nod.gif
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Its price can only move up that much if it's dividend yield also move up "around" that much. There's no free lunch....for Sunreit. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Nov 10 2010, 10:53 PM)
Opss..sorry see wrongly !!!  blush.gif
Btw SUNREIT is laggest asset ~~ I think the counter RM1.50 without problem !  nod.gif
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Before you make a judgement you must have figures to prove. Not simply blow water lol.

The way i look at it... your have a very wrong mindset in investing reits.


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post Nov 10 2010, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Nov 10 2010, 09:53 PM)
Opss..sorry see wrongly !!!  blush.gif
Btw SUNREIT is laggest asset ~~ I think the counter RM1.50 without problem !  nod.gif
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Can, let me buy few units, and then I Q to sell at 1.50, and you buy from me icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 10 2010, 07:58 PM)
My advice is don buy newly listed Reits. Can buy Amanah Raya Reits.  wink.gif

Strength :

- 8% yield
- diversified portfolio

These are the two most important criteria for reits investment.
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Ah it was around 0.855 for so long! rclxub.gif

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post Nov 10 2010, 11:14 PM

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Hey Guys... I got somethings confuse !! sad.gif
For example :
10/11/2010 Today SUNXX Is RM1.00...
Then Today the 3Q 30/9 result came out !!
Increase (500% profit)
So tomorrow the SUNXX will increase or just like norma day ??
Because of the 3Q result ..
Hope can help ! Thanks !! sad.gif
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post Nov 10 2010, 11:48 PM

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QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Nov 10 2010, 11:14 PM)
Hey Guys... I got somethings confuse !! sad.gif
For example :
10/11/2010 Today SUNXX Is RM1.00...
Then Today the 3Q 30/9 result came out !!
Increase (500% profit)
So tomorrow the SUNXX will increase or just like norma day ??
Because of  the 3Q result ..
Hope can help ! Thanks !! sad.gif
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Could most likely sell on news. Meaning stock coming down because people already expect that. If you are thinking the profit for SUXXXX increase 500%, then you are dead wrong. Common sense will tell you that if rev < profit, it means revaluation of the property. Anyway, you can hope it will fly like 500%, but I really doubt it.
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QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Nov 10 2010, 09:12 PM)
For me to pick up reits counter. i will look into 2 criteria.

1. Yield
2. Properties Portfolio
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I agree, I am not SunwayReit shareholder. My statement just to clarify people who conclude 1.51 cent is low return.


Added on November 11, 2010, 8:50 am
QUOTE(jasontoh @ Nov 10 2010, 09:26 PM)
I would say it is bad because most other REITS giving about 8%. To get 6% DY, might as well buy stocks.
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I don't think REITs still give 8% return if buying at this moment, since the share price already appreaciate so much comparing to 08'or 09', if there is then it might be AMFirst. But I don't like it because it is like Alaqar, inter-related business module. In this case rental or profit is very easy to be manipulated.

I might be wrong, but just try to avoid it. smile.gif



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post Nov 11 2010, 11:04 AM

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QUOTE(rayloo @ Nov 11 2010, 08:38 AM)
I don't think REITs still give 8% return if buying at this moment, since the share price already appreaciate so much comparing to 08'or 09', if there is then it might be AMFirst. But I don't like it because it is like Alaqar, inter-related business module. In this case rental or profit is very easy to be manipulated.

I might be wrong, but just try to avoid it. smile.gif
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In fact, you are quite wrong. tongue.gif

Both Arreit and Hektar at current price can give 8.x % yield. Probably Axreit also can give, but their next divvi will only come next year. cool.gif


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QUOTE(rayloo @ Nov 11 2010, 08:38 AM)
I don't think REITs still give 8% return if buying at this moment, since the share price already appreaciate so much comparing to 08'or 09', if there is then it might be AMFirst. But I don't like it because it is like Alaqar, inter-related business module. In this case rental or profit is very easy to be manipulated.

I might be wrong, but just try to avoid it. smile.gif
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Yes, your concern is reasonable, (which is my concern as well back then when buying Amfirst, and reason why I allocated smaller portion into it.

But still it is 8% yield
Amfirst expected DPU will be around 10 cents
10/120 = 8.3%

Arreit expected DPU 7.2 cents
7.2/90 = 8%

Qcapital expected DPU 8 cents
8/1.05 = 7.6%

Axreit expected DPU 17 cents (this one can improve further compared to others)
17/230 = 7 .4%

So most roughly around 7~8%, as most price are surging lately, if not, average is about 8%.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Nov 10 2010, 09:48 PM)
how come the appeal of Sunreit/CMMT is so great? 6% and people are still buying?

for me i'll take those with yields in the upper bands of the industry like arreit, axreit and hektar
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You need to get into the shoe of fund managers especially foreigner one.
They are having zero interest rate, bonds yield also extremely low due to bond bubble, as compared to 2-4% in bond, 6% is still decent for them.

They need large cap reit for their large appetite.


QUOTE(veilside2010 @ Nov 10 2010, 09:53 PM)
Opss..sorry see wrongly !!!  blush.gif
Btw SUNREIT is laggest asset ~~ I think the counter RM1.50 without problem !  nod.gif
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6 cents DPU/150 = 4%, net yield 3.6%, might as well park in FD, safer.
Doesn't make a lot of sense for people to invest at 1.50, unless we are having properties bubble to drive it to this level.

In order for it to rise to 1.50, you need DPU improvement to around 7-8 cents at least to justify the rise.
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Interesting...Thanks yok70 and cherroy to enlighten me. I only hold TowerReit and CMMT at the moment. Sorry I do not follow others closely. Interesting to learn 7%~8% return still achieveable.

I have strong confidence on CMMT management, maybe the yield may not be as good as others now. But It has very much potential to increase the rental as their properties are located on very strategic location. Almost 100% occupancy rate.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Nov 11 2010, 11:25 AM)
But still it is 8% yield
Amfirst expected DPU will be around 10 cents
10/120 = 8.3%

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How do you get 10c DPU? Isn't it 4.81c for the first Q? hmm.gif

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