Please advice. Thank you
REIT V2, Real Estate Investment Trust
REIT V2, Real Estate Investment Trust
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Jun 9 2010, 11:24 AM
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All Stars
12,698 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: kuala lumpur |
Is there any news when will the Sunway REIT(also the two other huge one that's coming soon) be out? When they come out, do you think the "revaluation" may make current REIT's price higher or lower?
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Jun 10 2010, 01:39 PM
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12,698 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: kuala lumpur |
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Jun 14 2010, 01:41 AM
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12,698 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: kuala lumpur |
QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 13 2010, 04:35 PM) Yup, 6.8% is a bit low. But if that's such good locations (gurney plaza, sungai wang are superb location and very crowded), why only 6.8%? I thought REIT suppose to give very high portion of their profit out as dividend? But the quality of the properties like Gurney plaze is a strong selling point, as the properties is 1. in strategic location, land value for sure appreciated in the future as situated or surrounded by luxury condo, with multi-million properties surround. 2. Strong rental market, fully occupied, and potential rental increment in the future. 3. Mall is well maintained and crowded. This post has been edited by yok70: Jun 14 2010, 01:42 AM |
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Jun 14 2010, 09:56 AM
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12,698 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: kuala lumpur |
QUOTE(gark @ Jun 14 2010, 08:42 AM) Maybe they "over declare" their property value to their own REIT's, thus selling the properties at a higher price. When the property is sold at 'above' market value, naturally the yields will have to come down because the rentals cannot catch up with the rich valuation. Oh boy! It's exactly like "government spending, citizen suffering" situation! |
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Jun 14 2010, 10:45 AM
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12,698 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: kuala lumpur |
QUOTE(wankongyew @ Jun 14 2010, 10:05 AM) But how can the REIT own Sungei Wang Plaza? I thought that its lots are completely owned by private individuals. Did the REIT buy many lots from individuals? That would explain the low yield. It must have been expensive to persuade people to let go of their Sungei Wang lots... Is it? Oh....i don't know that... |
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Jun 24 2010, 01:40 PM
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12,698 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: kuala lumpur |
When everyone says Axis is already at its market value but Quill Capita is still undervalue(having more room to grow its price), I don't understand. Any Taiko who knows, please tell me.
According to their TP: Axis: 2.28 (maybank), 2.35 (RHB) Quill: 1.18 (maybank), 1.17 (RHB) Both are about 18% discount on current price. So, what's going on? |
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Jun 24 2010, 02:44 PM
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12,698 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: kuala lumpur |
QUOTE(darkknight81 @ Jun 24 2010, 01:55 PM) thanks! But I'm not sure if I get it correctly. Please correct me if I am wrong. You mean for instance, researchers think that Axis has zero discount in price, but with possibility of 18% grow in profit. And for Quill, it has 18% discount in price, but with 0% of possibility to grow in profits? |
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Jun 24 2010, 03:21 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jun 24 2010, 03:03 PM) Added on June 24, 2010, 3:05 pm Those fair value is subjective matter. Axreit is given higher TP mainly due to EPS is showing gradually improvement, resulted from higher rental revision, constantly new properties injection to boost its earning, and diversified. Remember reit price/TP set mainly is base on yield attractiveness. So does for ordinary share out there. It is how much return can get from you invested money. |
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Jun 29 2010, 01:44 PM
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12,698 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: kuala lumpur |
My top choice are ARREIT and QCAPITA. I want to put AXREIT in too but since everyone says it's "over price" liao. Do you think its price will drop?
What's yours? This post has been edited by yok70: Jun 29 2010, 01:45 PM |
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Jun 29 2010, 02:38 PM
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I see. So still can consider it then.
I always buy a few counters to diversify the risk. I don't mind pay a little more management fees This post has been edited by yok70: Jun 29 2010, 02:40 PM |
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Jul 3 2010, 02:16 AM
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I saw someone asking what is withholding tax several times, but no answer. I also want to ask this same question.
It says the dividend with withholding tax: for Resident Individual = 10%. Is it deduction of the dividend? |
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Jul 3 2010, 05:02 PM
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Jul 4 2010, 02:24 AM
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I remember there is a rule that all m-reit MUST give their 90% or more of their rental profit as dividend to shareholders. Please correct me if I'm wrong. If so, how come Sunway REIT and the other upcoming Capita Malls REIT propose only around 6.7% dividend? Does that means their profit is not so good? But Sunway Piramid? Sungai Wang? Gurney Plaza? How come profit not good?
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Jul 4 2010, 09:26 PM
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I'm just not very comfortable on dividends payment. Look at some stocks, after price dropped for dividends payment, its price never come back. It's so different from the original meaning itself (a profit sharing gift from the company to shareholders). The same thing happens to bonus issue. To avoid the risk, some investors sell before ex-date.
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Jul 5 2010, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 5 2010, 12:15 AM) Price never comes back has a lot to do with company earning ability afterwards, not because the dividend ex that make the share price goes down or cannot go back up. Your example is very funny. I like that! If a stock is constantly paying the same dividend or higher than previously 99% of the chance the share price will reflect to what its dividend ability (provided those dividend is sustainable in the first place through operation business profitability) For eg. If a stock can give 10 cents currently with Rm1.50 and constantly throughout years and decade, after 15 years, its share price goes to zero? It is already a bargain after 5 years at Rm1.00 with 10 cents dividend. (if as said the share price never move or goes back up and goes down with ex-dividend) However, the market is not as reasonable sometimes. Some stocks getting good profits but less market attention, it's like they need more advertisement. |
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Jul 5 2010, 06:36 PM
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QUOTE(whizzer @ Jul 5 2010, 05:10 PM) Ya man! Don't tell me something wrong with the company! I just bought it at 1.01 and was very happy, then I saw 1.00!! Added on July 5, 2010, 6:39 pm QUOTE(cherroy @ Jul 5 2010, 10:36 AM) If you intend to hold it long term and just getting the dividend, as long as the dividend is good enough, who care about market attention on it. Yeah, you are right. I've been too nervous on the market movement. You are not going to sell if a stock giving good dividend throughout decade. In fact, less attention, means you could potential buy it more cheaply. The most important is the company's long term prospect is intact and good while company is generous on dividend policy based on its profitability. If look for short term or trading purpose different story. Dividend play is always about long term play. I just a bit worry if what happened last year could happen again this year. Do you think? This post has been edited by yok70: Jul 5 2010, 06:39 PM |
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Jul 5 2010, 09:33 PM
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I hope it's just a panic sell! Since the buying queue is also very large. |
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Jul 9 2010, 02:11 AM
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Jul 12 2010, 01:45 PM
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12,698 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: kuala lumpur |
Anyone has any recent REIT sector review? I only have one MBB's review by March, which is a little old now.
Thank you!! PS: Do you think Axis still a good buy for current price? |
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Jul 16 2010, 12:53 PM
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12,698 posts Joined: Jun 2010 From: kuala lumpur |
They have about 100 millions units for stabilizing managers to play with.
When the yield gets to 8.5%, it will be very attractive! |
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