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post Mar 16 2010, 10:07 AM, updated 16y ago

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Hi guys, I wish to import some cheap HDMI cables from US and do some small business here. It will be unbranded with 1 month warranty. I am using one and so far so good, do you think I can sell here with the price of RM20 for 3 meter and RM50 for 4.5 meter? Do you think there is a market here for these stuff?

Or everyone prefer branded premium cable?

It looks like this
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post Mar 16 2010, 10:10 AM

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it sellable, but i prefer premium one.
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if picture and sound come out at the end, why not.
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post Mar 16 2010, 10:17 AM

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What version is the cable?
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post Mar 16 2010, 10:18 AM

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i use unbranded cable before then recently change to branded cable. it makes NO DIFFERENCE at all! wasting my money!
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post Mar 16 2010, 10:33 AM

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i thought its been discussed before that digital signal not much diff? hehe as long as signal is there it all depends on your processor to do the job
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post Mar 16 2010, 10:35 AM

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It's a good effort, help people to save money thumbup.gif

I use non-famous brand HDMI cable, it performs nice to me, no need to look for other expensive cables this time
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post Mar 16 2010, 10:38 AM

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First you have to fight with Tesco brand...

3m 1.3b RM15....now thats really hard to beat.
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QUOTE(marky @ Mar 16 2010, 10:33 AM)
i thought its been discussed before that digital signal not much diff? hehe as long as signal is there it all depends on your processor to do the job
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post Mar 16 2010, 11:07 AM

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if it comes from Monoprice or BJC, then I would - if I needed one
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post Mar 16 2010, 11:55 AM

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Why not, if Monster RM50 i buy.. whistling.gif

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post Mar 16 2010, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Mar 16 2010, 10:38 AM)
First you have to fight with Tesco brand...

3m 1.3b RM15....now thats really hard to beat.
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OMG.. tesco selling RM15? I can balik kampung tanam sayur ... serious bo? if true then I better dun waste my time.
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QUOTE(GreenJellyBean @ Mar 16 2010, 12:03 PM)
OMG.. tesco selling RM15? I can balik kampung tanam sayur ... serious bo? if true then I better dun waste my time.
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Its true, go and check..people are not lying , even i've seen it in Tesco Extra Cheras here..
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QUOTE(marky @ Mar 16 2010, 10:33 AM)
i thought its been discussed before that digital signal not much diff? hehe as long as signal is there it all depends on your processor to do the job
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yeah, i was stupid at that time becoz did not do any homework 1st b4 buying
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looks abit like the astro byond hdmi ..
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QUOTE(GreenJellyBean @ Mar 16 2010, 12:03 PM)
OMG.. tesco selling RM15? I can balik kampung tanam sayur ... serious bo? if true then I better dun waste my time.
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Don't give up bro.. RM20 is okay if you want to sell it in electronic shops.
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QUOTE(GreenJellyBean @ Mar 16 2010, 10:07 AM)
Hi guys, I wish to import some cheap HDMI cables from US and do some small business here. It will be unbranded with 1 month warranty. I am using one and so far so good, do you think I can sell here with the price of RM20 for 3 meter and RM50 for 4.5 meter? Do you think there is a market here for these stuff?

Or everyone prefer branded premium cable?

It looks like this
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For digital transmission like HDMI, brands does not really matters unless the cable is very very long...

Digital signal does not degrade ( unlike analog signal )... it either works or it does not.. nothing in between..

Just like Ethernet LAN/UTP cable, would you buy a Monster brand UTP cable with gold connectors for 3-10 times the price ? Probably not..


With Astro HD content also using HDMI, I think there is a market for it for different lengths..



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QUOTE(azbro @ Mar 16 2010, 10:38 AM)
First you have to fight with Tesco brand...

3m 1.3b RM15....now thats really hard to beat.
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Wow... bro, you are like the HomeTheater dictionary... semua tau... thanks for sharing... i wanna go Tesco!
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QUOTE(GreenJellyBean @ Mar 16 2010, 10:07 AM)
Hi guys, I wish to import some cheap HDMI cables from US and do some small business here. It will be unbranded with 1 month warranty. I am using one and so far so good, do you think I can sell here with the price of RM20 for 3 meter and RM50 for 4.5 meter? Do you think there is a market here for these stuff?

Or everyone prefer branded premium cable?

It looks like this
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Hey, my bro in law is looking for one. If u plan to import do let me know, and I can arrange for him to take it from u in KL.

He is looking for about 4~5 meters...
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QUOTE(RayKazansky @ Mar 16 2010, 02:00 PM)
Wow... bro, you are like the HomeTheater dictionary... semua tau... thanks for sharing... i wanna go Tesco!
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HT dictionary? No one is dictionary, its knowledge they share is what you should appreciate..
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QUOTE(GreenJellyBean @ Mar 16 2010, 10:07 AM)
Hi guys, I wish to import some cheap HDMI cables from US and do some small business here. It will be unbranded with 1 month warranty. I am using one and so far so good, do you think I can sell here with the price of RM20 for 3 meter and RM50 for 4.5 meter? Do you think there is a market here for these stuff?

Or everyone prefer branded premium cable?

It looks like this
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Digital is still Digital.
unless u r using high end system..

jusy my oppinion.. tongue.gif
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post Mar 16 2010, 07:22 PM

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HDMI cable very cheap..all made in china. 100-200% profit ~.
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the wire quality is reduced the iron is cheaper made
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looks like ur bussines already started... good luck
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saya guna HDMI cable from tesco for my ps3
rm15 saja
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post Mar 16 2010, 11:16 PM

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I got 3x 3m HDMI cable from Lelong seller for RM100 including delivery charges to Sarawak. Looks slightly better with protection mesh outside and filter core. It mention the spec was 1.3b on nthe packaging. smile.gif

btw, the same seller was selling it for RM45 each currently for the 3m HDMI cable.
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expensive type they used very high quality material so if anybody
want "sedap mata memandang" can spend money for branded one..

like my audioquest HDMI 3.... tongue.gif branded but cheap.... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(mancy @ Mar 16 2010, 09:47 PM)
looks like ur bussines already started... good luck
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Hope his competitor not come to kacau lo.. tongue.gif

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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Mar 17 2010, 08:57 AM)
Hope his competitor not come to kacau lo.. tongue.gif
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competitor who? TESCO?
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I know there's not gonna be much difference for HDMI but I decided to go for Monster Cable anyway, when I bought my new TV. The salesman very clever to bodek n my wife happy with the service n since she approved, just hantam oni. laugh.gif

Here's the cable I bought. They should change name to Monster Price. laugh.gif

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i saw that in Harvey Norman - tak silap its rm170 and above plus kah?

pricey lah bro ... biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(matyeo @ Mar 17 2010, 04:33 AM)
expensive type they used very high quality material so if anybody
want "sedap mata memandang" can spend money for branded one..

like my audioquest HDMI 3.... tongue.gif  branded but cheap.... whistling.gif
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how much for the audioquest HDMI3? how cheap? whistling.gif
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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 17 2010, 11:59 AM)
I know there's not gonna be much difference for HDMI but I decided to go for Monster Cable anyway, when I bought my new TV. The salesman very clever to bodek n my wife happy with the service n since she approved, just hantam oni. laugh.gif

Here's the cable I bought. They should change name to Monster Price. laugh.gif

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ha3 what a name for Monster cable... monster price he3
me oso used the rm15 cable ma... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(netken @ Mar 17 2010, 12:06 PM)
i saw that in Harvey Norman - tak silap its rm170 and above plus kah?

pricey lah bro ... biggrin.gif
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It's rm375. sweat.gif
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But 1 thing for sure, if u buy branded, next time wan to sell is more easy lo... correct bo?? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 17 2010, 12:20 PM)
It's rm375. sweat.gif
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and how many percent is that vs that 60" TV? laugh.gif
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Only on promo I bought 2m from tesco for RM19 in Penang.
You guys sure 3m is available in Klang valley?

Although cheap cables work just as well, they are definitely less reliable sometimes. This is my personal experience having damaged 1 HDMI cable from repeated plug-unplug.
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Mar 17 2010, 01:06 PM)
and how many percent is that vs that 60" TV? laugh.gif
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Wah u all count HDMI according to percentage of screen size 1 kar? laugh.gif
I oso dunno, simply buy oni. As long as wife don't grumble then the price is right for me. Kekeke
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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Mar 17 2010, 12:39 PM)
But 1 thing for sure, if u buy branded, next time wan to sell is more easy lo... correct bo?? sweat.gif
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cheap one why need 2 sell back? RM15 only lor...
if buy xpensive RM375 then a year later can sell for RM300 still rugi RM75 compared to cheap RM15


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QUOTE(ianho @ Mar 17 2010, 01:19 PM)
Wah u all count HDMI according to percentage of screen size 1 kar? laugh.gif
I oso dunno, simply buy oni. As long as wife don't grumble then the price is right for me. Kekeke
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yeah, u r rite. all wife controls family financial... huhu sweat.gif

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How about using expensive cable for budget dvd/bd player rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(radovantz @ Mar 17 2010, 01:49 PM)
How about using expensive cable for budget dvd/bd player  rclxms.gif
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then it will be like eating pasar malam pan cake in secret recipe...hahaha:P
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QUOTE(de_lasoul @ Mar 17 2010, 12:09 PM)
how much for the audioquest HDMI3? how cheap? whistling.gif
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i won bidding for only rm65 shipping included and it was original from audioquest come in box....2 cable same price...yahooo
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I think if you sell a budget cable, regardless of price, if you lay out the structure of the cable to the public , u will sell the cable.

The public don't not mind nameless cable if they are convinced that the product is of good quality.

I bought from Monoprice, not because its famous. But because I was convinced after reading through their product introduction with breakdown of the cable's construction. Thats all.
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for short cable run, pretty much any brand HDMI cable can be used without any problem

but for longer run cable, get the one with category 2 speed certified cable
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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Mar 17 2010, 01:52 PM)
then it will be like eating pasar malam pan cake in secret recipe...hahaha:P
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nice example... biggrin.gif
i think TS can sell his cable becoz the price is quite good
don't worry about TESCO becoz TESCO don't have postage & COD
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QUOTE(JOR23N @ Mar 17 2010, 05:17 PM)
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I bought it, 2 weeks after that price reduced almost 50% cry.gif
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QUOTE(eMKs @ Mar 18 2010, 09:20 AM)
I bought it, 2 weeks after that price reduced almost 50%  cry.gif
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I dun think Tesco is earning anything from it (or maybe breaking even only)...same like those Harry Potter books they are selling..they just want ppl to shop there.
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i once went to wangsa walk...ask a guy in a game shop for hdmi cable for ps3...he slling the rm80 24k gold plated 1......i ask if he got cap ayam..then he said that the cap ayam cables will damage the ps3.....i started laughing when i heard that...lolx...some sellers think they so smart can fool other ppl
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QUOTE(sciencefreak @ Mar 18 2010, 11:09 AM)
i once went to wangsa walk...ask a guy in a game shop for hdmi cable for ps3...he slling the rm80 24k gold plated 1......i ask if he got cap ayam..then he said that the cap ayam cables will damage the ps3.....i started laughing when i heard that...lolx...some sellers think they so smart can fool other ppl
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i also met a stupid salesman that said cap ayam hdmi cable will burn the ps3 becoz the electricity level that run in it is high...
electricity level? rclxub.gif what is this?
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QUOTE(mancy @ Mar 18 2010, 11:17 AM)
i also met a stupid salesman that said cap ayam hdmi cable will burn the ps3 becoz the electricity level that run in it is high...
electricity level?  rclxub.gif what is this?
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lolx....first time i hearing that...
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QUOTE(sciencefreak @ Mar 18 2010, 11:09 AM)
i once went to wangsa walk...ask a guy in a game shop for hdmi cable for ps3...he slling the rm80 24k gold plated 1......i ask if he got cap ayam..then he said that the cap ayam cables will damage the ps3.....i started laughing when i heard that...lolx...some sellers think they so smart can fool other ppl
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Dun think it is always about fooling people. They may not be that wise about cables. Some just follow what Boss says. How else is the Boss gonna earn enough to pay the wages? hmm.gif

TESCO is using it as a 'lost-leader'. How to compete?

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Mar 18 2010, 11:22 AM)
Dun think it is always about fooling people. They may not be that wise about cables. Some just follow what Boss says. How else is the Boss gonna earn enough to pay the wages? hmm.gif

TESCO is using it as a 'lost-leader'. How to compete?
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i'm sure that the guy i asked was the boss..because when i ask the girl at the counter for hdmi cable....she then referred me to another guy who was concentrating 100% on the screen trying to play god of war 3..if worker do that i'm sure boss will scold ma...so....because of that,i'm sure that the guy who told me is the boss
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QUOTE(sciencefreak @ Mar 18 2010, 11:45 AM)
i'm sure that the guy i asked was the boss..because when i ask the girl at the counter for hdmi cable....she then referred me to another guy who was concentrating 100% on the screen trying to play god of war 3..if worker do that i'm sure boss will scold ma...so....because of that,i'm sure that the guy who told me is the boss
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My colleague's son works part-time in a Game shop. He also act like a boss, fully concentrate playing games rather than serving customer. laugh.gif
These days it's too common, seen many workers acting like a boss whilst the boss works like a donkey! rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(sciencefreak @ Mar 18 2010, 11:19 AM)
lolx....first time i hearing that...
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he keeps promoting the gold plated RM120 cable to me but then i noticed that the PS3 at the shop is using cap ayam HDMI cable he then said it was for testing purposes only...
testing purposes? stupid salesman...
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Y not... it still work with my PS3 and HT
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QUOTE(mancy @ Mar 18 2010, 01:25 PM)
he keeps promoting the gold plated RM120 cable to me but then i noticed that the PS3 at the shop is using cap ayam HDMI cable he then said it was for testing purposes only...
testing purposes? stupid salesman...
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That is the problem of salesman..
always tembak the nonsence.. sweat.gif
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That is the problem of salesman..
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hehe....also...b4 i ask about hdmi cable...i ask him this..how much for PS3 MY set...he said "IF u want MY set go to sony shop lah........dun come to my shop..i only sell SG Set"very sarcarstic...also...he said 'My Shop'...that means he's the boss
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QUOTE(JOR23N @ Mar 17 2010, 05:17 PM)
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It work perfectly with wdtv live....i mean connect it straight to TV.blush.gif


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u r rite... then do some homework, googling & asking friends. salesman is the last priority
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is there really any difference betw cheap & expensive HDMI cable??
i've tested a rm20 hdmi & rm200 hdmi before but not seeing any difference..most of it is made in china

i think the main contribution is from ur FullHD LCD TV..
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so cheap or expensive oso works the same? might as well get cheap one then...
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QUOTE(Jarod @ Mar 21 2010, 03:05 PM)
so cheap or expensive oso works the same? might as well get cheap one then...
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if the price is different from RM20 vs RM200.. then i will choose RM20 also.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Mar 21 2010, 05:23 PM)
if the price is different from RM20 vs RM200.. then i will choose RM20 also.. biggrin.gif
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Better just ask for Free HDMI cable when u bought DVD/BD/PS3/TV
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hey, i bought 1 1.3m cable for rm35, havent used yet
plan to try later, but about the rumors that it will damage your HDMI port, is that true?
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hey, i bought 1 1.3m cable for rm35, havent used yet
plan to try later, but about the rumors that it will damage your HDMI port, is that true?
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Better just ask for Free HDMI cable when u bought DVD/BD/PS3/TV
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This topic is about :Will you buy non-branded HDMI cable?, if it is RM20 for 3m and RM50 for 4.5m..

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i use unbranded cable, y waste money on branded HDMIs? proven, its oni hype n a marketing ploy...
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sidetrack a bit: can anyone tell me who is selling decent - no need branded - component video cable?

No need Audioquest, QED or boutique brands, and esp no Monster

thanks in advance

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QUOTE(SiriuslyCold @ Mar 24 2010, 07:50 PM)
sidetrack a bit: can anyone tell me who is selling decent - no need branded - component video cable?

No need Audioquest, QED or boutique brands, and esp no Monster

thanks in advance
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If you are in KL, try go to this shop in Imbi Plaza. It is called Silicon Electronics, 1st floor. I buy all my cables there.

Recently bought a 5M VGA cable for RM25.00 to connect my desktop to HDTV for surfing the Net.

I bought also a Cenfonix component cable for about RM45.00 last year. Connect it from my AV to a 29" CRT TV. Watching Astro, DVD & playing Xbox 360 no problem whatsoever.

If you are interested I will sell it to you for RM10.00

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non branded HDMI is good yo~.. im using one of it now.


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yeah, expensive HDMI cable makes no different.
when it's digital, means it is either on or off.
the question is whether it is able to deliver or not.

i have experimented cheap RCA cable connected for Coaxial Digital, sounds okay with 5.1 channel but it silenced for seconds when the movie showed too much explosions. Means either on or off. This problem will never happen if special Coaxial Digital cable is used because it has the ability needed to deliver.

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expensive HDMI cable also look like 'MADE IN CHINA' 1 la...same only la cheap or expensive... brows.gif
buying expensive 1 is jus 2 make u feel good about da cable only... sweat.gif
ya la,u bought 'branded' 1 mar...lik tat la...padahal its da same Picture Quality only whistling.gif

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now a day most thing are made in china

the main point is to get good quality cable

cheap/free cable can be good in quality, it can also be bad in quality

the quality issue also applied to expensive cable as well
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actually i'm more interested in answering the question.
Topic starter- if u could i'd like the 4.5m one.
thanks

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now a day most thing are made in china

the main point is to get good quality cable

cheap/free cable can be good in quality, it can also be bad in quality

the quality issue also applied to expensive cable as well
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like now they produce very good tube amp and speaker also... tongue.gif
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I want to but 4.5meter HDMI cable
anyone know how much will it cost me?
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QUOTE(freedom2912 @ Apr 1 2010, 01:09 AM)
I want to but 4.5meter HDMI cable
anyone know how much will it cost me?
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From what i've seen, there's only 2m,4m,6m,8m i've seen in market.

4.5 strange, looks like you wanted the customized cable do you?
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From what i've seen, there's only 2m,4m,6m,8m i've seen in market.

4.5 strange, looks like you wanted the customized cable do you?
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around 5m is fine..just convenient for my living room
anyone selling?
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QUOTE(freedom2912 @ Apr 1 2010, 01:03 PM)
around 5m is fine..just convenient for my living room
anyone selling?
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Dont think you can find 5m , unless you customize the cable.
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around 5m is fine..just convenient for my living room
anyone selling?
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There u go: RM70 only

http://www.lps2u.com/shop/index.php?main_p...products_id=839

bought from them b4, no problem
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bought no brand one hdmi cable but can't support hdmi 1.3... bought belkin hdmi cable solved the problem...
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There u go: RM70 only

http://www.lps2u.com/shop/index.php?main_p...products_id=839

bought from them b4, no problem
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Now Tesco 1.3b 3m cable going for RM10. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(chewkl @ Apr 1 2010, 04:47 PM)
Now Tesco 1.3b 3m cable going for RM10. thumbup.gif
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If Tesco can sell this cable for RM10, I think the cost of producing this cable will be about RM3 or less.

After taking away sales agent commission, middle man, manufacturer & tesco profit, logistics, packaging & etc it should be about that price.

So, you can judge what kind of quality can a RM3.00 (USD0.90) HDMI with 3m length can do to your Home theater experience.

If it does not damage your HDMI connector on your devices, you should be very happy already.

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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Apr 1 2010, 04:55 PM)
If Tesco can sell this cable for RM10, I think the cost of producing this cable will be about RM3 or less.

After taking away sales agent commission, middle man, manufacturer & tesco profit, logistics, packaging & etc it should be about that price.

So, you can judge what kind of quality can a RM3.00 (USD0.90) HDMI with 3m length can do to your Home theater experience.

If it does not damage your HDMI connector on your devices, you should very be happy already.
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Tell that to the user of monoprice HDMI cable...they r selling the HDMI cable for as low as USD1.82 for 3ft and USD4.09 for 10ft cable....never heard any complaint of their cable quality....
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Dont think you can find 5m , unless you customize the cable.
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dun simply say bro...
even 30cm and 50cm also got...
it depend u know where to look...
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dun simply say bro...
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Just ignore him la, he just doing post marathon oops.gif
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bought no brand one hdmi cable but can't support hdmi 1.3... bought belkin hdmi cable solved the problem...
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Apr 1 2010, 05:01 PM)
Tell that to the user of monoprice HDMI cable...they r selling the HDMI cable for as low as USD1.82 for 3ft and USD4.09 for 10ft cable....never heard any complaint of their cable quality....
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Have you bought cables from monoprice before. Cause seemingly everyone is talking bout their cable sales.

I plan to get a HDMI cable. You think worth buying one?
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If Tesco can sell this cable for RM10, I think the cost of producing this cable will be about RM3 or less.

After taking away sales agent commission, middle man, manufacturer & tesco profit, logistics, packaging & etc it should be about that price.

So, you can judge what kind of quality can a RM3.00 (USD0.90) HDMI with 3m length can do to your Home theater experience.

If it does not damage your HDMI connector on your devices, you should be very happy already.
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Bought the RM10 cable from there
Tested and everything is OK compared to my previous cable.
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Im also using the Astro's v1.3 b cable for my PC and Astro Beyond.
[Watching on LCD Monitor FULL HD]..
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Have you bought cables from monoprice before. Cause seemingly everyone is talking bout their cable sales.

I plan to get a HDMI cable. You think worth buying one?
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All my HDMI cables from monoprice...
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Im also using the Astro's v1.3 b cable for my PC and Astro Beyond.
[Watching on LCD Monitor FULL HD]..
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hi all, how do u tell if the cable is 1.3a , 1.3b & etc certified ? especially for non- branded hdmi, THX
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free/cheap hdmi cables work great...don't need overpriced monster hdmi cables with all sorts of gimmicks and high markups for even online dealers

what these sellers have in abundance is the ability to spread FUD - Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt so that you will part with ur hard earned money for overpriced digital cables
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hi all, how do u tell if the cable is 1.3a , 1.3b & etc certified ? especially for non- branded hdmi, THX
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you can't tell from the cables itself whether they are speed certified or not

but monoprice stated in their website that some of their hdmi cable are Certified to Category 2

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anyone here knows what's the shipping cost for cables bought from monoprice? and how long do you have to wait?

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anyone here knows what's the shipping cost for cables bought from monoprice? and how long do you have to wait?
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put something into shopping cart, you can then check the s&h cost, about US$30
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the stuff that i wanna buy $5 only. if shipping is $30.. doh.gif cry.gif
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the stuff that i wanna buy $5 only. if shipping is $30.. doh.gif  cry.gif
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item ship from usa, sure expensive

try ebay, item from hongkong seller usually ship free

or RM10 from tesco, and they gave money back guarantee thumbup.gif
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Just saw the HDMI cables at Tesco. Mountains of it, like selling kacang putih. laugh.gif
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item ship from usa, sure expensive

try ebay, item from hongkong seller usually ship free

or RM10 from tesco, and they gave money back guarantee thumbup.gif
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Just saw the HDMI cables at Tesco. Mountains of it, like selling kacang putih. laugh.gif
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anyone care to buy for me (if u happen to shop there) ? THX notworthy.gif
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anyone care to buy for me (if u happen to shop there) ?  THX notworthy.gif
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don't you have tesco around your neighbourhood, just walk in and buy
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buy from lyn members, search in garage sales, and have it courier to your door step brows.gif

but why do you need extra cable? hdmi cable usually included free of charge when you buy tv or monitor

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buy from lyn members, search in garage sales, and have it courier to your door step brows.gif

but why do you need extra cable? hdmi cable usually included free of charge when you buy tv or monitor
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those are expensive to me , couldn't afford sad.gif , never see a seller to sell at RM10
my vga dun come with hdmi cable
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If Monstard Cable can sell a hdmi cable same model n length but price varies from $100-1000, I think the cost of producing this cable will be about $2 or less.

After taking away sales agent commision, cheap labour in china, tons of advertisement, middle man, high commision forum/ebay seller that spam forum for sale, etc it should be about that.

So, you can judge what kind of money you want to spend if $10 cable from tesco work as well as Monstard Cable for your pocket experience.

If it does not make you poorer, it will make you looks stupid if you cant differentiate your cable when your fren challenge you for a blind fold test. You should feel regret already.



QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Apr 1 2010, 04:55 PM)
If Tesco can sell this cable for RM10, I think the cost of producing this cable will be about RM3 or less.

After taking away sales agent commission, middle man, manufacturer & tesco profit, logistics, packaging & etc it should be about that price.

So, you can judge what kind of quality can a RM3.00 (USD0.90) HDMI with 3m length can do to your Home theater experience.

If it does not damage your HDMI connector on your devices, you should be very happy already.
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QUOTE(dopp @ Apr 3 2010, 01:31 AM)
If Monstard Cable can sell a hdmi cable same model n length but price varies from $100-1000, I think the cost of producing this cable will be about $2 or less.

After taking away sales agent commision, cheap labour in china, tons of advertisement, middle man, high commision forum/ebay seller that spam forum for sale, etc it should be about that.

So, you can judge what kind of money you want to spend if $10 cable from tesco work as well as Monstard Cable for your pocket experience.

If it does not make you poorer, it will make you looks stupid if you cant differentiate your cable when your fren challenge you for a blind fold test. You should feel regret already.
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I wonder why most of my customers after purchasing the cables and left testimonial on my thread, saying that it's an awesome cable and it makes a difference and appreciate me that I brought in these cables at an affordable price?

Hmm...I wonder why? I'm talking about hundreds of customers here, not 1 or 2.

If you think a RM10 cable works fo you, then good for you.

Maybe you've never own a good quality cable before. I can't blame you for making that judgement.

Based on your judgement, you are also insulting serious audiophiles who invest in thousands RM in cables. Are they blind too?

Obviously you are not serious in quality and performance. Let's leave this at it is.
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Are your customers still think that their previous comments still true and valid as at now after their learned the facts or do at comparison themselve and/or become well informed? laugh.gif

Think physiologically, what normal people will react, if their found out that their paid lot of extra and get a same performance cable? Think, you will know the answer. tongue.gif
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Most people wont have guts to admit that he just waste few hundreds of ringgit for a cable that dont give any difference in picture quality compared to RM10 tesco cable.
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Most people wont have guts to admit that he just waste few hundreds of ringgit for a cable that dont give any difference in picture quality compared to RM10 tesco cable.
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Who said? I fully admit my rm375 HDMI cable is just the same as my rm18 HDMI cable. laugh.gif The thing is, sometimes we bekside itchy n buy expensive things just for the joy of shopping. Kekeke

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I wonder why most of my customers after purchasing the cables and left testimonial on my thread, saying that it's an awesome cable and it makes a difference and appreciate me that I brought in these cables at an affordable price?

Hmm...I wonder why? I'm talking about hundreds of customers here, not 1 or 2.

If you think a RM10 cable works fo you, then good for you.

Maybe you've never own a good quality cable before. I can't blame you for making that judgement.

Based on your judgement, you are also insulting serious audiophiles who invest in thousands RM in cables. Are they blind too?

Obviously you are not serious in quality and performance. Let's leave this at it is.
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Who said? I fully admit my rm375 HDMI cable is just the same as my rm18 HDMI cable. laugh.gif  The thing is, sometimes we bekside itchy n buy expensive things just for the joy of shopping. Kekeke
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QUOTE(low98944 @ Apr 3 2010, 08:40 AM)
Are your customers still think that their previous comments still true and valid as at now after their learned the facts or do at comparison themselve and/or become well informed?  laugh.gif

Think physiologically, what normal people will react, if their found out that their paid lot of extra and get a same performance cable? Think, you will know the answer.  tongue.gif
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FYI, those who purchase the cable from me came back and buy more and even refer to their friends.

They know a good deal, when they see one. I'm not cooking this up. Look at my thread and you can read it yourself.

Why they came back and buy more if they are not satisfied? They have too much of $$$ or they appreciate quality & performance?

I have many senior audiophiles from lowyat and hifi4sales who bought from me also left good remarks.

This people knows what they are paying for......quality.

If you still want to believe cheap cable works the same, then I'm not going to challenge that.

Don't resist the fact that there are many happy & satisfied people who use and own the quality branded cables.

The testimonials from my customers speak for themselves.

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lets not confuse analog cables and digital cables. just because a certain brand makes an analog cable that makes a measurable quality difference doesn't mean the same applies for digital cables.

if ppl have money to spend - upgrade ur equipment first, get more software (movies, songs, astro, watever) ... really hand itchy backside itchy, then go ahead, spend on overpriced digital cables, watever floats ur boat ...

sure, maybe the colour of the cable looks nice, there's a fancy logo there, its gold plated, platinum maybe, the "build quality" is better, the packaging is nicer, u can tell ppl "look i have XYZ cables", or u just feel proud of urself that ur equipment is using XYZ cables..afterall its ur money rite?

dun forget that ppl in haiti are having more serious issues to think about than whether to spend more on cables or not

for average consumers with less disposable income/spending power, this phrase always comes to mind "Too many people spend money they don't have, to buy things they don't want, to impress people they don't like."

in the mean time i'm gonna catch up on actually enjoying my movies and music..with my FOC hdmi cable

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Q. What is the difference between a “Standard” HDMI cable and a “High-Speed” HDMI cable?

Recently, HDMI Licensing, LLC announced that cables would be tested as Standard or High-Speed cables.

    * Standard (or “category 1”) HDMI cables have been tested to perform at speeds of 75Mhz or up to 2.25Gbps, which is the equivalent of a 720p/1080i signal.
    * High Speed (or “category 2”) HDMI cables have been tested to perform at speeds of 340Mhz or up to 10.2Gbps, which is the highest bandwidth currently available over an HDMI cable and can successfully handle 1080p signals including those at increased color depths and/or increased refresh rates from the Source. High-Speed cables are also able to accommodate higher resolution displays, such as WQXGA cinema monitors (resolution of 2560 x 1600).


Is Tesco made HDMI cable certified as a high-speed cable? Or there is no difference in speed when it is as short as 3m?


SOURCE: http://www.hdmi.org/learningcenter/faq.aspx#112

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QUOTE(Riggo @ Apr 9 2010, 07:25 AM)
Is Tesco made HDMI cable certified as a high-speed cable? Or there is no difference in speed when it is as short as 3m?
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Yes, I can play 1080p without any problem at all thumbup.gif
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Yes, I can play 1080p without any problem at all thumbup.gif
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Im worried because there are some cables marked with "High-speed certified" and they cost slightly higher than others.. so im skeptical to know whether the tesco hdmi cable falls in category 1 or 2 as explained in my previous post.

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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Apr 3 2010, 10:40 PM)
FYI, those who purchase the cable from me came back and buy more and even refer to their friends.

They know a good deal, when they see one. I'm not cooking this up. Look at my thread and you can read it yourself.

Why they came back and buy more if they are not satisfied? They have too much of $$$ or they appreciate quality & performance?

I have many senior audiophiles from lowyat and hifi4sales who bought from me also left good remarks.

This people knows what they are paying for......quality.

If you still want to believe cheap cable works the same, then I'm not going to challenge that.

Don't resist the fact that there are many happy & satisfied people who use and own the quality branded cables.

The testimonials from my customers speak for themselves.
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let's see...testimonials from customers who still ignorning the fact that the earth spin around the sun....or testimonials from the scientists that has tested, experimented and proven that the earth does spin around sun....

i take the scientist. which is why i just bought a non-branded HDMI cable that only cost me RM35. wink.gif

if FACT is proven merely by testimonials from the majority of common people or serious audiophile...people now will not dare to go around the world through the sea fearing their ship may just slip at the edge of the earth.

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Im worried because there are some cables marked with "High-speed certified" and they cost slightly higher than others.. so im skeptical to know whether the tesco hdmi cable falls in category 1 or 2 as explained in my previous post.
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Well, it can play 1080p without any problem. It shouldn't be fall into 1, get it? Furthermore it certified with 1.3b.
If you want to waste your money, just buy the High-Speed one & RM10 from Tesco. You can compare it side by side, it won't be any different in PQ.
I bought it last time at Tesco when the price is RM28.90, now with the price just RM10 I grab another 1 smile.gif
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Well, it can play 1080p without any problem. It shouldn't be fall into 1, get it? Furthermore it certified with 1.3b.
If you want to waste your money, just buy the High-Speed one & RM10 from Tesco. You can compare it side by side, it won't be any different in PQ.
I bought it last time at Tesco when the price is RM28.90, now with the price just RM10 I grab another 1  smile.gif
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Nice, i'll be getting one from the nearest Tesco today.
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Well, it can play 1080p without any problem. It shouldn't be fall into 1, get it? Furthermore it certified with 1.3b.
If you want to waste your money, just buy the High-Speed one & RM10 from Tesco. You can compare it side by side, it won't be any different in PQ.
I bought it last time at Tesco when the price is RM28.90, now with the price just RM10 I grab another 1  smile.gif
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I will go grab 1 too later... tongue.gif
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i'd rather risk my RM10 than 3-4 digits of my hard earned RM...try the Tesco ones first...at least if it really doesn't meet your expectations, you didn't lose so much...and you can still go get your fancy raksaksa cables
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QUOTE(ADJ @ Apr 11 2010, 11:33 AM)
i'd rather risk my RM10 than 3-4 digits of my hard earned RM...try the Tesco ones first...at least if it really doesn't meet your expectations, you didn't lose so much...and you can still go get your fancy raksaksa cables
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Sorry to barge in, but i think you're right. In fact i was using Monster cable all this while for my LCD , LCD PC Mon, but now i've switched to a RM15 1.3b cable which makes no difference with Monster.

Now the Monster are just hooked off, and don't know what to do with them, one cable just made my pocket dry! rclxub.gif
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A good test to see if ur cable will withstand the 1.3b bandwidth is by using a WDTV Live player, hooking ur HDMI cable direct to a display (hopefully one that supports 12bit), then on the WDTV Live setup select 1080p/23.976 (or 60Hz), YCbCr and 12 bit colour. If u get sparklies, or dropouts when using this method, then ur cable does not support 1.3b. If it works, then the cable is good enuf for current standards. This is a good test to check ur cables.

YCbCr 4:4:4 and 12 bit at full HD that is sent by the player more or less maximizes the bandwidth at the cable.
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im using the supplied HDMI no brand cable, and it just works 101% perfectly, no point going for 3-4digit HDMI cables.. its all just a marketing gimmick.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 11 2010, 12:17 PM)
A good test to see if ur cable will withstand the 1.3b bandwidth is by using a WDTV Live player, hooking ur HDMI cable direct to a display (hopefully one that supports 12bit), then on the WDTV Live setup select 1080p/23.976 (or 60Hz), YCbCr and 12 bit colour. If u get sparklies, or dropouts when using this method, then ur cable does not support 1.3b. If it works, then the cable is good enuf for current standards. This is a good test to check ur cables.

YCbCr 4:4:4 and 12 bit at full HD that is sent by the player more or less maximizes the bandwidth at the cable.
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Great tips. But does it work the same on the PC?
I set my refresh rate to 59hz , YCbCr 32bit color. You think i can try the setting you suggested?
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Great tips. But does it work the same on the PC?
I set my refresh rate to 59hz , YCbCr 32bit color. You think i can try the setting you suggested?
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36 bit is slightly higher bandwidth. Also u need to ensure that the source sends out a full hd signal. One good example is for the WDTV Live setup pages.
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 11 2010, 02:02 PM)
36 bit is slightly higher bandwidth. Also u need to ensure that the source sends out a full hd signal. One good example is for the WDTV Live setup pages.
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32bit bro. Source sending out full hd signal. Im using Dynamic contrast enhancement. Gamma set to default.

Using YCbCr444 . 60hz 32bit. Refreshed and it looks fantastic.

Thanks for the tips..
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32bit bro. Source sending out full hd signal.  Im using Dynamic contrast enhancement. Gamma set to default.

Using YCbCr444 . 60hz 32bit. Refreshed and it looks fantastic.

Thanks for the tips..
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If u're not getting any audio dropouts and sparklies, then the cable is fine.
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Refer to this thread:
Why you shouldn't buy cheap HDMI cable (http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/738072)


(Source) http://www.audioholics.com/education/cable...ble-bench-tests

Digital Is Digital, Right?

Unlike the mumbo-jumbo surrounding TOSlink and coax optical cables, HDMI is a little more complex. When the specification is a constantly-moving target, as HDMI has proven to be - and this has been fueled by a willing consumer electronics industry - things get a little hairy. It's important to understand just why, with HDMI, you can't just say "digital is digital, it either works or it doesn't." As we referenced in detail in our article 'HDMI - It's All in the Bitrate,' HDMI has progressed (evolved) from a simple 720p/1080i 8-bit per channel signal to the current 1080p 12-bit (or more) per channel signal it is today. Just what kind of bandwidth is being sent over the cable depends on the source electronics and the capability of the display, but the potential has vastly increased since the debut of HDMI in 2003. As these signals got higher in resolution and bit depth, the amount of bits per second traveling through the HDMI cable increased. When that happened (and most recently culminating in the release of HDMI 1.3) the tolerance requirements for HDMI cables changed as well.

By way of example, with a digital audio coax cable you are dealing with a required maximum bitrate of just over 3 Mbit/s. For a S/PDIF connection, be it TOSlink or digital coax, this is chump change. The specification for that digital connection hasn't changed since ~1997 and the demands made on the cable are far less than the cable's potential capabilities. Now let's look at HDMI. A massive bundle of 15 cables (not including drain wires) - some insulated, all fairly important. In order for HDMI to remain practical, and avoid unnecessary interference, the cable has to be made, at least partially, out of stranded wire, lest 15 solid cables render the cable more of an unbendable, unwieldy stick than a cable. Additionally, the amount of information necessary to transmit the incredibly high resolution video and 8-channels of uncompressed digital audio far exceeds that of the typical DTS or Dolby Digital compressed traffic which meanders through a S/PDIF audio-only connection.


So How Do Cables Differ?

Aside from cost, HDMI cables differ in many ways. Some real obvious differences include the gauge of cable used in construction, stranded versus solid cable pairs (which greatly affects flexibility), and flat versus round. These physical differences are significant, but not nearly as important as whether or not the cables are rated to carry a particular signal a stated distance. Many cables are certified by one or more companies who provide specifications and/or speed ratings to cables. Simplay, for example is a wholly-owned division of HDMI Licensing, LLC that charges large sums of money to test cables and consumer electronics for compatibility and interoperability. Another company coming online is DPL Labs which rates cables on a 1-5 rating. It's a bit redundant since it should be pretty obvious that the Category 1 and 2 specs should be easy enough to certify and uphold. We're more concerned with manufacturer being honest than whether or not some third party certifies them or gives them a sticker. After all, nobody expects every AV receiver to be certified by a third party for exact power ratings (the FCC notwithstanding, but they hardly do more than ensure the product doesn't emit radiation).

Specific problems arise in a couple of areas. First, the equipment required to test HDMI cables is very expensive. We're talking over $200,000 for a basic setup including source generator, scope and calibrated HDMI "probes". This is obviously cost prohibitive for smaller companies to do much more than rebrand someone else's manufactured cables that have already been certified. If they choose the right manufacturer this isn't a problem, but some don't.

You can predict cable integrity and performance fairly accurately by doing the math on the cable geometry and modeling the results. This isn't easy, however (at least not for mere mortals) and we opted to use the measurement methodology instead. For a great (though very technical) article on HDMI cable modeling, please see Eugene Mayevskiy's writeup, which comes from an engineer who worked with Tektronix to deal with these very issues.

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so this is saying that when we buy cables - we must ensure we buy from reputable manufacturers/retailers (these businesses are held responsible for products they sell if these products don't perform as they should) and not because of price right? Therefore, for example, if Belkin is selling its cerfified 1.3b cables for a cheap price - should I buy or should i not?

As long as a HDMI cable has been certified as high speed/1.3b/b and whatever, the cables should perform as it should, no matter how cheap it is. Those who had bad experience with "cheap" cables are mainly because of being cheated by con artists who sold them not-certified poor quality cables. But human being are not as logical as they ought to be. They then developed this logic " I was conned because I bought a cheap product, therefore, all cheap products are bad products" - after they have "kena" from buying uncertified cables.

I think we need to be careful with the word cheap. I would assume that in DigitalTech's post - it is relative to Monster's price range.

There are many reputable cable makers and they are considered cheap as compared to Monster's. For example, belkin - and when it says its cables are all certified, we can be assured that they are.

I think there will not be an end to the arguing of "monster's cables makes your video better than other cheap brands". So I am not spending time arguing this. People who have the money to spend and feel good about buying Monster's cables should continue to feel happy with the cables they have bought. But those who have other uses for that kind of money - this kind of expensive cables should not be in your priority list because most likely, when you hook up your display with a cheap belkin cable (only an example), you would have been convinced by what your TV is capable of, and nothing less.
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Just bought one for myself today at Tesco, for RM10!

Using it with my WDTV now.

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QUOTE(in_george @ Apr 12 2010, 11:03 PM)
Just bought one for myself today at Tesco, for RM10!

Using it with my WDTV now.

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Cable looks better than my Monster. Will buy this tomorrow drool.gif
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But I went to Tesco (bukit indah, JB) - could not find them at all!!! sad.gif
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QUOTE(wuanzi @ Apr 13 2010, 07:58 AM)
But I went to Tesco (bukit indah, JB) - could not find them at all!!! sad.gif
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yes, same with me...
Last Saturday I went to Tesco Taiping, i also could not find any HDMI cable sold at there!!! cry.gif
maybe their target market only on Klang Valley...
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I just bought one from Tesco Extra Penang @ RM10, can't feel the different with the RM30 ones sold in this forum. Design a little bit like monster cable tongue.gif
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QUOTE(in_george @ Apr 12 2010, 11:03 PM)
Just bought one for myself today at Tesco, for RM10!

Using it with my WDTV now.

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Do let us know if u r using it with no problems at 12bit, YCBCr, WDTV Live. If there are no audio dropouts and u see either a 12bit or 36bit to ur display, then this cable would work fine. Or maybe I can check and let u guys know if I can get a hold of them.
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The price issue is secondary,
As long as the manufacturer produce & test their cable according to the Standards, the cable should work fine, irregardless whether they want to sell it RM10 or RM1000.


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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Apr 12 2010, 11:09 PM)
Cable looks better than my Monster. Will buy this tomorrow drool.gif
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that cable look nicer than monster?? hmm.gif
i wonder how your monster look like?

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 13 2010, 08:16 AM)
Do let us know if u r using it with no problems at 12bit, YCBCr, WDTV Live. If there are no audio dropouts and u see either a 12bit or 36bit to ur display, then this cable would work fine. Or maybe I can check and let u guys know if I can get a hold of them.
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I am using it, bought from Tesco Tebrau City here in JB, been using it with my WDTV Live and when I turn on the 12bit YCBCr I do experience sound dropouts and some interruptions. Now I just use the 12bit with Auto setting. Without a problem. For me RM10 its a bargain. rclxms.gif It work better then my other HDMI cable with cost me around RM30.00. This one can't even play at 12bit at all. rclxub.gif
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I am using it, bought from Tesco Tebrau City here in JB, been using it with my WDTV Live and when I turn on the 12bit YCBCr I do experience sound dropouts and some interruptions. Now I just use the 12bit with Auto setting. Without a problem. For me RM10 its a bargain.  rclxms.gif  It work better then my other HDMI cable with cost me around RM30.00. This one can't even play at 12bit at all.  rclxub.gif
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Thanks. What display do u own? Also are us also using Auto on the resolution page?

As I mentioned, YCbCr 12bit, 1080p (23.976/60Hz) just about maximises the bandwidth of the cables. This is a good indicator.

If the resolution is dropped it will reduce the bandwidth needed.
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 13 2010, 09:22 AM)
that cable look nicer than monster??  hmm.gif
i wonder how your monster look like?
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Something like this

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Apr 13 2010, 11:13 AM)
Something like this

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «
then how can you say the tesco better looking than this??
no make sense.. sweat.gif
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then how can you say the tesco better looking than this??
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 13 2010, 10:46 AM)
Thanks. What display do u own? Also are us also using Auto on the resolution page?

As I mentioned, YCbCr 12bit, 1080p (23.976/60Hz) just about maximises the bandwidth of the cables. This is a good indicator.

If the resolution is dropped it will reduce the bandwidth needed.
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I am using Toshiba 42ZV600E, yes I think I am using, auto on the resolution page also... blush.gif
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Apr 13 2010, 08:16 AM)
Do let us know if u r using it with no problems at 12bit, YCBCr, WDTV Live. If there are no audio dropouts and u see either a 12bit or 36bit to ur display, then this cable would work fine. Or maybe I can check and let u guys know if I can get a hold of them.
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Mine's a 1st Generation WDTV, so i'll try setting the display resolution to 1080P (from Auto, which is setting it to 720p) and see how it goes.
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 13 2010, 11:41 AM)
then how can you say the tesco better looking than this??
no make sense.. sweat.gif
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Looks better in terms of price la tailo !
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QUOTE(AjkR06 @ Apr 13 2010, 08:06 AM)
yes, same with me...
Last Saturday I went to Tesco Taiping, i also could not find any HDMI cable sold at there!!!  cry.gif
maybe their target market only on Klang Valley...
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goto tesco extra ipoh.. just bought one over there last saturday... the price tag was RM19.90... but scan time RM10... just pay and cabut.... biggrin.gif

so far so good... no problem...
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Apr 13 2010, 11:13 AM)
Something like this

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You are promoting fake Monster cable by inserting this picture with that URL.

You can buy fake M1000HD/M2000HD for $10-$20 from that website.

So buying fake Monster cable is the same quality as RM10 tesco brand, but with good looks.
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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Apr 13 2010, 02:39 PM)
You are promoting fake Monster cable by inserting this picture with that URL.

You can buy fake M1000HD/M2000HD for $10-$20 from that website.

So buying fake Monster cable is the same quality as RM10 tesco brand, but with good looks.
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bro... how do we differentiate fake monster cable with the ori one?
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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Apr 13 2010, 02:39 PM)
You are promoting fake Monster cable by inserting this picture with that URL.

You can buy fake M1000HD/M2000HD for $10-$20 from that website.

So buying fake Monster cable is the same quality as RM10 tesco brand, but with good looks.
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Excuse me bro, im not promoting fake cable. Im just showing the picture only.
If you got any problem, post your own pic here..
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ahyah, no need to be so serious lah - so what if I posted a wrong picture - if I posted a fake rolex picture can I be accused of promoting / solicitating business to sell such fake goods? rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Apr 13 2010, 02:59 PM)
Excuse me bro, im not promoting fake cable. Im just showing the picture only.
If you got any problem, post your own pic here..
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bro, putting that picture is not the problem. It's the URL showing in that picture.

People may think that's the place to buy Monster cable.

Not your fault, because you may not know what's with the URL.


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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Apr 13 2010, 03:43 PM)
bro, putting that picture is not the problem. It's the URL showing in that picture.

People may think that's the place to buy Monster cable.

Not your fault, because you may not know what's with the URL.
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ok noted.

but... so what is the problem with the URL - I know now, coz you said the URL is pointing to a seller who is alleged by you of selling fake goods... but the problem is that - how do we, as commoners, know if a URL (seller) is a problem or when it is not a problem... sorry, not trying to be funny - just that a lot of times, as a forum member, using a picture to illustrate a content is a hard habit to break and I don't really think it is hardly a fault... but if you are not agreeable so be it lah - but seriously, if you think that the seller is selling fake goods and infringe copyright, you should report to authority and only once the seller is convicted, I think we can openly say the seller is doing a criminal act lah
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ok noted.

but... so what is the problem with the URL - I know now, coz you said the URL is pointing to a seller who is alleged by you of selling fake goods... but the problem is that - how do we, as commoners, know if a URL (seller) is a problem or when it is not a problem... sorry, not trying to be funny - just that a lot of times, as a forum member, using a picture to illustrate a content is a hard habit to break and I don't really think it is hardly a fault... but if you are not agreeable so be it lah - but seriously, if you think that the seller is selling fake goods and infringe copyright, you should report to authority and only once the seller is convicted, I think we can openly say the seller is doing a criminal act lah
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if you copy something from other website without the consent of the author and repost to other forum also is a crime..
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QUOTE(faidzal1982 @ Apr 13 2010, 02:46 PM)
bro... how do we differentiate fake monster cable with the ori one?
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Beware of Counterfeits Monster Cables, High risk - M2000HD/M1000HD HDMI Cable
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1360072
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someone is selling tesco cable for RM30, RM20 profit right there shakehead.gif
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/TECHNIKA-HDMI-CABLE...=item35a87b1946

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QUOTE(wuanzi @ Apr 13 2010, 03:58 PM)
ok noted.

but... so what is the problem with the URL - I know now, coz you said the URL is pointing to a seller who is alleged by you of selling fake goods... but the problem is that - how do we, as commoners, know if a URL (seller) is a problem or when it is not a problem... sorry, not trying to be funny - just that a lot of times, as a forum member, using a picture to illustrate a content is a hard habit to break and I don't really think it is hardly a fault... but if you are not agreeable so be it lah - but seriously, if you think that the seller is selling fake goods and infringe copyright, you should report to authority and only once the seller is convicted, I think we can openly say the seller is doing a criminal act lah
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I think the best way is to avoid inserting pictures with URL on it.
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sorry to say..
if you copy something from other website without the consent of the author and repost to other forum also is a crime..
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Hi Bro I am no expert in cyber law or copyright in terms of web but I guess :
1. putting a url here is considered copyright infringement?
2. even if copying a picture and upload here is considered copyright infringement? not very sure leh coz I think one of the major "symptoms" of infringing copyright must be associated with personal gain oh...
So I see no problem our forum bro just refer a URL here lah

BTW - off topic liao laugh.gif - let's continue our discussion on whether it is a must to buy horrendously priced cable (must be branded I guess), regardless of rich and poor.. because people say so? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(neb @ Apr 13 2010, 04:42 PM)
someone is selling tesco cable for RM30, RM20 profit right there shakehead.gif
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/TECHNIKA-HDMI-CABLE...=item35a87b1946
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Some places don't have tesco mah. So must pay a premium for it lor. brows.gif

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someone is selling tesco cable for RM30, RM20 profit right there shakehead.gif
http://cgi.ebay.com.my/TECHNIKA-HDMI-CABLE...=item35a87b1946
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That's include free shipping, RM15 gross profit smile.gif . Or maybe he bought last time when the price was RM28.90 just like me sweat.gif
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For authorised Monster Cable for Singapore & Malaysia, please get it from Hwee Seng (Electronics) Pte Ltd as listed in Monster main page :-

http://www.monstercable.com/international/...nal_dealers.asp

DigitalTech, did you get your cables from Hwee Seng Malaysia?
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tesco RM10 hdmi cable does not indicate on cable whether it is speed rated or HDMI certified, but it does have UL E-code E213967 (go check your self, plug the e-number into UL file number field http://database.ul.com/cgi-bin/XYV/templat...FRAME/index.htm ) , which only indicate who supply the cable, it is actually from :

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EVER GREAT ELECTRIC WIRE & CABLE CO LTD
APEC PLAZA, 3RD FL, FLAT 308 
49 HOI YUEN RD 
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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Apr 13 2010, 04:50 PM)
I think the best way is to avoid inserting pictures with URL on it.
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Bro, im sorry, if that has spoiled your genuine sale.

This is my actual cable that im using ..

user posted image

Someone bought it for me for a whopping price sometime ago. Im not sure if the cable in the pic is fake.

But if you check in Mudah or elsewhere , there's people sellling it. Even in LYN.

How do we know identify fake and genuine Monster cable. Where do you get your items from? I mean , im just asking , not questioning your sale.

If it does, im sorry if it was straight to point..whistling.gif:
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Apr 13 2010, 05:16 PM)
For authorised Monster Cable for Singapore & Malaysia, please get it from Hwee Seng (Electronics) Pte Ltd as listed in Monster main page :-

http://www.monstercable.com/international/...nal_dealers.asp

DigitalTech, did you get your cables from Hwee Seng Malaysia?
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No. The cables I'm selling I imported directly from US.

If I get it from Hwee Seng, the price will be similar to Harvey Norman or SenQ (overpriced).

However, if you buy from Hwee Seng authorised dealers, you will get warranty from them.


Added on April 13, 2010, 6:54 pm
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Bro, im sorry, if that has spoiled your genuine sale.

This is my actual cable that im using ..

user posted image

Someone bought it for me for a whopping price sometime ago. Im not sure if the cable in the pic is fake.

But if you check in Mudah or elsewhere , there's people sellling it. Even in LYN.

How do we know identify fake and genuine Monster cable. Where do you get your items from? I mean , im just asking , not questioning your sale.

If it does, im sorry if it was straight to point..whistling.gif:
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In US, there's are some factory closeout and liquidation stocks.

The wholesaler buys those stock in huge bulks in massive discounted price.

Most of it are older models, but some are still selling in the market.

So, I happen to know this US wholesalers and import them in bulk.

If you know where to buy, you can get a good deal. rclxms.gif


Seriously, please avoid buying Monster 1000HD, M1000HD and M2000HD HDMI cables selling below RM200.00.

If you want to buy, you can get it for $10-$20 from China websites. These are high grade copies cable.




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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Apr 13 2010, 06:46 PM)
No. The cables I'm selling I imported directly from US.

If I get it from Hwee Seng, the price will be similar to Harvey Norman or SenQ (overpriced).

However, if you buy from Hwee Seng authorised dealers, you will get warranty from them.


Added on April 13, 2010, 6:54 pm
In US, there's are some factory closeout and liquidation stocks.

The wholesaler buys those stock in huge bulks in massive discounted price.

Most of it are older models, but some are still selling in the market.

So, I happen to know this US wholesalers and import them in bulk.

If you know where to buy, you can get a good deal.  rclxms.gif
Seriously, please avoid buying Monster 1000HD, M1000HD and M2000HD HDMI cables selling below RM200.00.

If you want to buy, you can get it for $10-$20 from China websites. These are high grade copies cable.
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I heard bout that Monster1000HD, but the one i have is the one in the picture earlier.[ 2nd one black]

Your price is reasonable, i was told by a forumer before that he bought a cable from you for a good price.

All the best..rclxms.gif
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i would definitely buy a non-branded HDMI cable..i feel those Monster cable is pure money waste..
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i would definitely buy a non-branded HDMI cable..i feel those Monster cable is pure money waste..
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Mind if i ask you, how exactly you know that its pure waste of spending on Monster cable? You have bad experience with Monster cable before this?

Any of your friends or fellow forumers informed you that Monster is hopeless? Belum cuba belum tau bro.. hehehe

I think they work the same and only difference is PRICE.
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aiyah......if buy tv RM10,000 then can buy cable for RM3xx.......if buy tv RM1999...use chapalang cable....

Carrefour got one time selling 5m HDMI cable for RM5.00 (yes is 5 meter, i think they label the wrong price 'coz 3m is around RM30+) .....a group of us go to sapu all the cables.....(almost 20 pieces)....
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Making it short, are the Tesco RM10 cheplak HDMI makes any different? Can deliver 5.1 True HD sound to your HT?
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QUOTE(lkp857 @ Apr 14 2010, 12:30 AM)
Making it short, are the Tesco RM10 cheplak HDMI makes any different? Can deliver 5.1 True HD sound to your HT?
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QUOTE(mcat84 @ Apr 14 2010, 12:18 AM)
aiyah......if buy tv RM10,000 then can buy cable for RM3xx.......if buy tv RM1999...use chapalang cable....

Carrefour got one time selling 5m HDMI cable for RM5.00 (yes is 5 meter, i think they label the wrong price 'coz 3m is around RM30+)  .....a group of us go to sapu all the cables.....(almost 20 pieces)....
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Check the prices for a regular HDMI cables below.

Regular Cables
Regular Cables 2

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don't get hung about other cables that offer a lifetime guarantee, protecting you in case your cables are technologically obsolete in the future. If in a few years there are consumer video products that output higher-than-1080p video signals (an admittedly unlikely scenario), you can always buy another cheap $10 cable online that can handle more data. And you've still saved yourself $30 over that $50 cable in the store.


Above is a comment from a web article.

I do agree, Monster though has warranty, we do not know the lifetime of it. Even to a regular HDMI has no lifetime guarantee.

I agree with the lot, that affordable HDMI cable can do wonders too..
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Mine's a 1st Generation WDTV, so i'll try setting the display resolution to 1080P (from Auto, which is setting it to 720p) and see how it goes.
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QUOTE(in_george @ Apr 14 2010, 05:44 PM)
Configured my WDTV to output 1080p last night, watched a movie and 2 TV shows, didn't notice any issues.
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i tried to search bout this matter but I couldn't find it. Maybe its a little bit off topic. But, evrytime I connect my laptop to my HDTV (HDTV to Receiver) my sound will be distorted. Even sometimes, it produces such very high frquency for a moment. What could be wrong? Is it my cable? Btw, I was playing MKV file. Any help?
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sounded like you laptop is outputing digital audio and your HDTV is incapable of decoding it, try changing to other audio type in your laptop

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Just like comparing FungKeong/Bata/Adidas/Reebok/Gucci footgear;
after 1Km they all feel the same.
Branded HDMI show diff unless you have a 60in or larger display but then
only minimal. Better spend the diff on more software lo.....my 2 sens worth.
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Apr 13 2010, 11:36 PM)
Mind if i ask you, how exactly you know that its pure waste of spending on Monster cable? You have bad experience with Monster cable before this?

Any of your friends or fellow forumers informed you that Monster is hopeless? Belum cuba belum tau bro.. hehehe

I think they work the same and only difference is PRICE.
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What's the point of getting a branded cable when a cheapo one does the same job without a hitch. Dont waste time trying to scour for difference on digital signal. Its all 0's and 1's. Better add the money to get Full HD or upgrade to bigger size more worth it lor.
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Just like comparing FungKeong/Bata/Adidas/Reebok/Gucci footgear;
after 1Km they all feel the same.
Branded HDMI show diff unless you have a 60in or larger display but then
only minimal. Better spend the diff on more software lo.....my 2 sens worth.


I came to a conclusion that spending on higher quality HDMI cables are worthless when the regular ones can do the similar wonder.

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What's the point of getting a branded cable when a cheapo one does the same job without a hitch. Dont waste time trying to scour for difference on digital signal. Its all 0's and 1's. Better add the money to get Full HD or upgrade to bigger size more worth it lor.


I agree with you Darren, i realised that when i read articles around the web. Now i realise that they resemble in terms of functionality
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Haha..

Stil arguin abt tis ah..

To each his own la.. if prefer spendin for a brand name.. so be it.. its his/her money..

If wan value for money-can work enuff, than use cheap wan lo..

Both works.. up to u to decide
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Just like comparing FungKeong/Bata/Adidas/Reebok/Gucci footgear;
after 1Km they all feel the same.
Branded HDMI show diff unless you have a 60in or larger display but then
only minimal. Better spend the diff on more software lo.....my 2 sens worth.
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what differences can you see in 60"? hmm.gif
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This thread is becoming like Monster HDMI cable vs cap ayam cable. How about other branded names? for eg, Van den Hul?






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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Apr 15 2010, 06:36 PM)
This thread is becoming like Monster HDMI cable vs cap ayam cable. How about other branded names? for eg, Van den Hul?
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You can also include Giraffe , Cablesson , Die Casting Premium. whistling.gif
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You can also include Giraffe , Cablesson , Die Casting Premium. whistling.gif
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But everybody here is taking Monster cable as benchmark.


I have used Monster S-Video & personally fee that it can brings a decent improvement in analogue but doubt that in hdmi
as most worldwide editors have said either you received the digital or you do not receive at all....but for more than 10m then it is recommendable to use branded ones.









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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Apr 15 2010, 11:32 PM)
But everybody here is taking Monster cable as benchmark.
I have used Monster S-Video & personally fee that it can brings a decent improvement in analogue but doubt that in hdmi
as most worldwide editors have said either you received the digital or you do not receive at all....but for more than 10m then it is recommendable to use branded ones.
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Forget about Monster. Talk something else , there's are lots of different HDMI cables that you can bring into picture.
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Tesco Puchong also cheating people on their RM10 Technika HDMI cable deal.
Yesterday, I grabbed one cable off the shelve and paid together with 30+ grocery items totaling RM189.00. This morning, I ran thru the Tesco receipt, I found out that I was actually charged RM19.90 instead of RM10 for the cable. mad.gif. I'm very certain the price tag I saw at the shelve was RM10. Hypermarkets always make this kind of mistake.
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 16 2010, 01:05 PM)
Tesco Puchong also cheating people on their RM10 Technika HDMI cable deal.
Yesterday, I grabbed one cable off the shelve and paid together with 30+ grocery items totaling RM189.00. This morning, I ran thru the Tesco receipt, I found out that I was actually charged RM19.90 instead of RM10 for the cable. mad.gif. I'm very certain the price tag I saw at the shelve was RM10. Hypermarkets always make this kind of mistake.
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Bring the receipt and show them and ask if they can refund you back RM9.90.
Its a loss for you unless you have noticed the actual price correctly?
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 16 2010, 01:05 PM)
Tesco Puchong also cheating people on their RM10 Technika HDMI cable deal.
Yesterday, I grabbed one cable off the shelve and paid together with 30+ grocery items totaling RM189.00. This morning, I ran thru the Tesco receipt, I found out that I was actually charged RM19.90 instead of RM10 for the cable. mad.gif. I'm very certain the price tag I saw at the shelve was RM10. Hypermarkets always make this kind of mistake.
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is not tesco mistake..
is ur mistake who no check your receipt before you go
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Tesco Puchong also cheating people on their RM10 Technika HDMI cable deal.
Yesterday, I grabbed one cable off the shelve and paid together with 30+ grocery items totaling RM189.00. This morning, I ran thru the Tesco receipt, I found out that I was actually charged RM19.90 instead of RM10 for the cable. mad.gif. I'm very certain the price tag I saw at the shelve was RM10. Hypermarkets always make this kind of mistake.
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maybe other customer put it on wrong shelve.... as i know the price tag will be displayed at the shelve.
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QUOTE(mikapoh @ Apr 15 2010, 11:32 PM)
But everybody here is taking Monster cable as benchmark.
I have used Monster S-Video & personally fee that it can brings a decent improvement in analogue but doubt that in hdmi
as most worldwide editors have said either you received the digital or you do not receive at all....but for more than 10m then it is recommendable to use branded ones.
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For anolog is very true... even for power cord also can make different.. But for digital.. hmm.gif i have not really confident..
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 16 2010, 01:30 PM)
is not tesco mistake..
is ur mistake who no check your receipt before you go
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I think we should give room to aeiou228 to find out the actual price.
If Tesco cashier key in wrongly, then again, its human error.
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I think we should give room to aeiou228 to find out the actual price.
If Tesco cashier key in wrongly, then again, its human error.
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Cashier won't get wrong, she/he just scan the bar-code.
Maybe their price has change now, but they forget to change the price at its shelves.
Remember, original price is RM28.90, going down to RM15, going down again to RM10. Maybe it’s time to going up again smile.gif
Please check receipt before you go

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QUOTE(eMKs @ Apr 16 2010, 03:05 PM)
Cashier won't get wrong, she/he just scan the bar-code.
Maybe their price has change now, but they forget to change the price at its shelves.
Remember, original price is RM28.90, going down to RM15, going down again to RM10. Maybe it’s time to going up again  smile.gif
Please check receipt before you go
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Huh, yeah..i totally forgotten about the price scan via bar code. Yikes, i guess he has to check the receipt again.

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HDMI: Need for Speed

Believe it or not, HDMI cables are not all created equal. Some can handle video from DVD players just fine, but if you connect a Playstation 3 to them and try to play a game, you might be in for a shock – the video might not display at the maximum resolution of your television, for example, or might not work at all. So read on, and learn all about how our cables to meet – and exceed – industry specifications so that you can enjoy your home theater to its potential.

This diagram illustrates the progression of complexity that occurs when you’re going from a simple DVD signal to that of devices such as the Playstation 3 – and beyond. Rich video (such as that created by 120HZ displays running at a resolution of 1080p) and complex audio (such as Dolby DTS 5.1 surround sound) require much more bandwidth than a basic DVD signal with stereo sound and require a much more sophisticated cable. If the cable you’re using isn’t up to the task of pushing enough data, your player may downgrade your signal to a lower resolution, or visual artifacts such as colored spots may appear on your video.


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http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/hdmi_spee...cable_speed.asp

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Ok, im sorry to barge in [already damaged btw]

I found a duplicate topic @ Audiophiles : http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/738072

I think we should only discuss at one place.
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 16 2010, 01:30 PM)
is not tesco mistake..
is ur mistake who no check your receipt before you go
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In order to prevent expected statement like the above, I made an afford to explained that I purchased 30+ grocery items together with the cable in my earlier post and the it was a long list. Perhaps you are not in the stage where you have to do grocery shopping to truly understand my situation. If I purchase just 1 item of course I will realise I'm paying RM10 extra.
It was clearly TESCO's mistake when they failed to update the price in their P.O.S.
The purpose of posting this issue up is to alert potential buyers in this thread.

QUOTE(firestater @ Apr 16 2010, 01:31 PM)
maybe other customer put it on wrong shelve.... as i know the price tag will be displayed at the shelve.
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No, I was very well informed from this thread that the cable is selling for RM10 and I saw the price tag clearly stated RM10 but what I never expected was Tesco P.O.S haven't update the price.

QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Apr 16 2010, 02:48 PM)
I think we should give room to aeiou228 to find out the actual price.
If Tesco cashier key in wrongly, then again, its human error.
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Got my RM9.9 refund from TESCO today and the customer service admitted their mistake of not updating the Point Of Sale.
Dunno how many unaware customer kena con by Tesco already lah... sweat.gif

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Got my RM9.9 refund from TESCO today and the customer service admitted their mistake of not updating the Point Of Sale.
Dunno how many unaware customer kena con by Tesco already lah... sweat.gif
So i was right then..they have store wrong price in the POS.

FFS ! I must be careful when buying stuff.

I've noticed that too while doing groceries..
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Can anyone try using the RM10 tesco HDMI cable on your PS3 and try playing on a high action, high speed game.

Please share the results.

You don't see much difference if you are using a cheap hdmi cable on a DVD player, as the chart show, that it's below standard speed level.

Testing it on a PS3 will be the best to gauge the performance of your cable. PS3 is categorised under Advanced High Speed level.





Added on April 17, 2010, 9:33 amExplaining 3D Formats
Due to the high speed of the 1920 x 1080 signal at 120Hz, extra care must be taken in cable bandwidth, connections, crimps and bending to introduce bit errors.

By George Walter
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http://www.cepro.com/article/explaining_3d_formats/D1/


Extraordinary 3D is all about creating the best environment and equipping it with powerful 3D displays capable of delivering a truly immersive experience.

In the world of 3D entertainment, the believability of the experience is everything.
Let's take a look at the more advanced levels of 3D display technology available for home use.


Low Tech: 3D via Anaglyph 3D

Due to the limited number of true 3D TVs currently in homes, the delivery of television-based 3D content has had to rely on the anaglyph 3D process.

Viewed in 2D mode, the images look like "double vision" with one image having a cyan tint and the other image having a red tint. Anaglyph content is viewed using matching glasses, which have a cyan filter as the lens for the left eye, and a red filter as the lens for the right eye.

Through the anaglyph viewing process, the cyan content is only seen by the viewer's left eye and the red content is only seen by the viewer's right eye. This is the simplest and least expensive 3D delivery method and provides the least dynamic 3D experience.

The cyan and red filters tend to distort the color accuracy of the 3D content. Thus, while anaglyph 3D technology does allow 3D content to be delivered to any television in any home, it is generally considered to provide a 3D experience that is far from state of the art.


Mid Tech: 3D DLP for TVs

The first 3D DLP consumer displays were introduced in 2007 as rear-screen single-chip TVs. Using the inherent speed of the DLP's micro mirrors technology, the displays transmit left and right eye imagery separately for stereoscopic imaging with high-quality 3D glasses.

Consumer-level 3D DLP TVs enlist a specific technology referred to as checkerboard imaging. For example, the red squares of the checkerboard represent the right eye, and the black square represents the left eye. In this fashion, full 1080p images can be displayed without the need for expanded bandwidth.

The images are displayed 60Hz right eye and 60Hz left eye (equivalent to 120Hz). Since every other pixel is dedicated to either the left or the right eye, the resolution of each single eye image is only half the native resolution of the 3D television. While this does sacrifice image quality, no additional system bandwidth is required to support signal distribution.

The high-speed LCD shutter glasses allow the appropriate left eye information to transmit to the left eye and right eye information to transmit to the right eye. Thus, total left and right eye signal can equal full 1920 x 1080, if that is the native resolution of the 3D TV.


High Tech: Active 3D Projectors

The latest 3-chip 3D projectors use a more advanced technology capable of supporting full Active 3D whereby a 120Hz signal is fed to the projector (full 1920 x 1080 60Hz, left; full 1920 x 1080 60Hz, right), and the right eye and left eye are displayed sequentially. Once again, high-speed LCD shutter glasses are used and synchronized with the projector via an IR emitter, blocking the right eye when left eye content is displayed, and vice versa.

The signal requirement is that you either need a high-speed dual link DVI cable to transmit 120Hz full HD signals to the projector from the source or two standard DVI/HDMI cables - one for the right eye content, one for the left eye content.

HDMI 1.4 looks to reduce this to a single cable. Due to the high speed of the 1920 x 1080 signal at 120Hz, extra care must be taken in cable bandwidth, connections, crimps and bending so as not to introduce bit errors.

There are several DLP two-piece consumer projection systems and flat-panel displays that advertise 3D capability, but they do so only at reduced resolutions. By reducing the resolution, the electronics and response times are greatly simplified. Most gaming flat panels are maximum 1680 x 1050, and many of the single-chip 3D projectors present a maximum of 1024 x 768 resolution.

There are a number of ways to create 3D with DLP systems. There are also numerous ways of generating 3D material, so the possible outcomes are limitless!

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Honestly bro, i've seen my brother had 3 types of HDMI cables, when he used to have his PS3 , before kaput.

1st is Pioneer gold plated HDMI cable, ok works fine.
2nd he bought Monster [forgot model] v1.1 (i guess oni) .Ok works fine [no difference to 1st one]
3rd he tested using a RM10 cable 1.3b from [dont know where he bought it], no difference to 1st & 2nd.

But i didnt mean Monster or other cables are hopeless, it depends consumers need. Whether costly item or cheaper items which works the same.
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Nowaday, not easy to be a seller. laugh.gif
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can't beat tesco's after sales service for RM10 HDMI cable, you can even get the reimbursement thumbup.gif for overpriced cable

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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 16 2010, 07:09 PM)
In order to prevent expected statement like the above, I made an afford to explained that I purchased 30+ grocery items together with the cable in my earlier post and the it was a long list. Perhaps you are not in the stage where you have to do grocery shopping to truly understand my situation. If I purchase just 1 item of course I will realise I'm paying RM10 extra.
sorry if i offend you..
but i do buy alot stuff in once...i do grocery shopping once a month too..
but before i leave, i check everything on the receipt..sometime some new cashier scan twice for an item..
you should make this as a habit...no harm spend 10mins there checking the price on the receipt..
or you could see the person scan and check the price on the spot too..

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or don't wait till you leave the counter - this is what Ido - normally we should already have a basic idea of the price of things we are buying (I think it is a good habit to check price before putting the thing into the cart ), when the cashier is scanning the items, we can watch him do the scanning and also pay attention to the screen showing the price, if you think that the price is not what you expected, you can immediately stop the cashier from continuing.


Added on April 18, 2010, 12:16 amI only go to do grocery once every few months and my list is quite long...so far no problem and i will check the goods again after reaching home against the long receipt, but I did encounter getting a can of spoilt jam, but it does not make sense going back for a can of jam worthes 3.50..

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anyone know where to buy cheapo 15 metres hdmi. need it for astro byond
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anyone know where to buy cheapo 15 metres hdmi. need it for astro byond
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R u looking to split it with a powered splitter? Else, it might be flaky. 15m is quite long.
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i dont intend to split but to unplug and share the byond hdmi port with two hdmi cable, one for the living hall which is the short one and one for the bedroom

i suspect there may be signal loss on the 15metres hdmi cable or as you put it , flaky

if anyone have such experience , please share
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QUOTE(maskedchan @ Apr 17 2010, 11:51 PM)
sorry if i offend you..
but i do buy alot stuff in once...i do grocery shopping once a month too..
but before i leave, i check everything on the receipt..sometime some new cashier scan twice for an item..
you should make this as a habit...no harm spend 10mins there checking the price on the receipt..
or you could see the person scan and check the price on the spot too..
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Not at all Bro.
Been doing weekly grocery shopping in hypermarket for donkey years and I find checking on the spot while scanning in progress at the POS is the best option as you can see the item and the price at once. Checking the receipt after payment is only good for few items purchases only. It is not possible for a cart-full load of purchases cause you don't even recall or understand certain item's name printed in the receipt and worst even if you find discrepancy in the receipt, you can't rectify it at the cashier already, you have to waste a lot of time rectified it at customer service counter.

QUOTE(wuanzi @ Apr 18 2010, 12:12 AM)
or don't wait till you leave the counter - this is what Ido - normally we should already have a basic idea of the price of things we are buying (I think it is a good habit to check price before putting the thing into the cart ), when the cashier is scanning the items, we can watch him do the scanning and also pay attention to the screen showing the price, if you think that the price is not what you expected, you can immediately stop the cashier from continuing.


Added on April 18, 2010, 12:16 amI only go to do grocery once every few months and my list is quite long...so far no problem and i will check the goods again after reaching home against the long receipt, but I did encounter getting a can of spoilt jam, but it does not make sense going back for a can of jam worthes 3.50..
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Sometimes, we can't perfectly control the situation. When you have a cart-full load of purchases, the moment you finish transferring all goods from the cart to the cashier counter, the cashier already scanned one third of the goods.

Sorry, off topic.

Anyway I have not tested my TESCO HDMI cable. Will report my review after tested it.





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I have a 10 meter non-branded HDMI cable buried in wall connecting to projector and amplifier - fortunately no problem. But kind of regretted coz HDMI cable standards keeps upgrading...
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tested with my old amp, Good quality Coal and optical cable is giving some different result...
but for HDMI i have no idea can or not.
But i thing for sure is the HDMI signal transfer faster.... Its this a good sign??


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Hi, which Tesco is selling hdmi for RM10? That's darn cheap man. Minimum so far I see is RM60. I only need a short one for my DVD and to AVR. Besides Tesco, anywhere else. I am in KL Sentral area. Thanks...
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QUOTE(mywii @ Apr 19 2010, 09:50 PM)
Hi, which Tesco is selling hdmi for RM10? That's darn cheap man. Minimum so far I see is RM60. I only need a short one for my DVD and to AVR. Besides Tesco, anywhere else. I am in KL Sentral area. Thanks...
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You can find it from Lowyat Plaza, that's the nearest for you. Lowyat also selling cheap cables.
Around rm30
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QUOTE(mywii @ Apr 19 2010, 09:50 PM)
Hi, which Tesco is selling hdmi for RM10? That's darn cheap man. Minimum so far I see is RM60. I only need a short one for my DVD and to AVR. Besides Tesco, anywhere else. I am in KL Sentral area. Thanks...
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All Tesco selling it at RM10. RM10 as in standard yellow price tag and not the red colour promo price tag. The stocks are plentiful, just take your time to buy.
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QUOTE(gilbertlhl @ Apr 19 2010, 11:38 AM)
tested with my old amp, Good quality Coal and optical cable is giving some different result...
but for HDMI i have no idea can or not.
But i thing for sure is the HDMI signal transfer faster.... Its this a good sign??
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You can tell the signal transferring speed difference between 2.9 x 10E8 m/s and 2.7 x 10E8 m/s ? shocking.gif wow, quite amazing... notworthy.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 19 2010, 10:38 PM)
All Tesco selling it at RM10. RM10 as in standard yellow price tag and not the red colour promo price tag. The stocks are plentiful, just take your time to buy.
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Last week till now Tesco at eGate Penang no more stock, so laku this product.
BTW how the test coming? Is this 1.3 version?
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Apr 21 2010, 01:02 PM)
Last week till now Tesco at eGate Penang no more stock, so laku this product.
BTW how the test coming? Is this 1.3 version?
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I saw at Tesco Ampang & Tesco Extra Cheras still have them. Why not try at this 2 outlets..
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Apr 21 2010, 01:02 PM)
Last week till now Tesco at eGate Penang no more stock, so laku this product.
BTW how the test coming? Is this 1.3 version?
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try tesco extra seberang jaya
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I saw at Tesco Ampang & Tesco Extra Cheras still have them. Why not try at this 2 outlets..
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Yesterday, Tesco Extra Cheras stock finished liao.
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QUOTE(aeiou228 @ Apr 22 2010, 01:21 AM)
Yesterday, Tesco Extra Cheras stock finished liao.
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Ye ke? I went about a week ago, i saw. sweat.gif freaking speedo finito amigo.

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I saw at Tesco Ampang & Tesco Extra Cheras still have them. Why not try at this 2 outlets..
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Bro, if I just go to the Ampang or Cheras outlet for the HDMI cable, I might as well buy the cheapest HDMI cable from HN at Queensbay, PENANG!

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Apr 22 2010, 09:01 AM)
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Bro, if I just go to the Ampang or Cheras outlet for the HDMI cable, I might as well buy the cheapest HDMI cable from HN at Queensbay, PENANG!
Thanks for the headsup, neb!
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Anybody/Sifu, know what are the things to look for to confirm that the HDMI cable is version 1.3?

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Ok, go ahead to HN if you are nearby.. brows.gif
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Bro, the trip to KL just to buy a cable is so not worth it la.


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Went to Tesco near Curve but only can find the 19.90. Still ok lah...

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Better don't use that. Find powered HDMI splitter with repeater, make sure it support HDCP. You can get it local such as this.

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QUOTE(eMKs @ Apr 23 2010, 10:34 AM)
Better don't use that. Find powered HDMI splitter with repeater, make sure it support HDCP. You can get it local such as this.
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just bought hdmi cable from tesco selayang, rm19.90 , there only have 4pc , buy 2 .
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Just got the hdmi cable from monoprice, the 22AWG 20ft high speed CL2 HDMI 1.3 capable cable (black) is huge when compare to the 28AWG 3 ft hdmi cable.

Play the full HD bluray movie (high bitrate) over this 20ft HDMI cable is flawless, nice cable, only quite expensive, nearly US$50 including shipping.

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Just got the hdmi cable from monoprice, the 22AWG 20ft high speed CL2 HDMI 1.3 capable cable (black) is huge when compare to the 28AWG 3 ft hdmi cable.

Play the full HD bluray movie (high bitrate) over this 20ft HDMI cable is flawless, nice cable, only quite expensive, nearly US$50 including shipping.

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The big black one you can buy at Jalan Pasar for RM45. The red one is only RM5. Why would u pay more than RM150???

And also I tested and compare both, the thick cable ones have better picture. Can notice the difference
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The big black one you can buy at Jalan Pasar for RM45. The red one is only RM5. Why would u pay more than RM150??? 

And also I tested and compare both, the thick cable ones have better picture. Can notice the difference
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are you sure you can buy monoprice HDMI cable at jalan pasar? 6m cable at RM45 only? shocking.gif

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are you sure you can buy monoprice HDMI cable at jalan pasar? 6m cable at RM45 only? shocking.gif
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Hi guys, I wish to import some cheap HDMI cables from US and do some small business here. It will be unbranded with 1 month warranty. I am using one and so far so good, do you think I can sell here with the price of RM20 for 3 meter and RM50 for 4.5 meter? Do you think there is a market here for these stuff?

Or everyone prefer branded premium cable?

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Cheap HDMI cables rules...HDMI are digital, either they work or they don't (in which case, you'll start to see snow and other artifacts). I have a 5m HDMI cable...bought for around RM70 sometime ago...works great. It takes a very long distance before the signal actually breaks.

There's really no reason for premium HDMI cables unless you need an extremely long distance that runs in kilometres or something. In which case u'll be better off to pull a LAN cable/WIFI-N and install a remote device instead.
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QUOTE(llk @ Jun 7 2010, 01:26 PM)
Hi,  anybody know where i can get this HDMI connector from?
Similar product in monoprice

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product....&seq=1&format=2

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Thanks, but i more prefer getting locally, any suggestion?
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I've tried different cheap hdmi cables and notice some difference.

Some of the head size had different depths. Which makes it a pain if some of the connection points are deep, can't even get a signal.

Another cable I've tried gives red "noises" here and there when set the input at 60Hz. No such problem at 24 Hz but still, kinda makes paying rm40 for it a b****.

Thats my experience anyway.
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HDMI Mini (Type C) to HDMI Standard (Type A ) ?

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HDMI Standard (Type A) to HDMI Mini (Type C ) ?
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I need HDMI standard to standard. Thanks
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Im going to buy HDMI Cable Tomorrow, can someone tell me if the puchong tesco has sell the cheap hdmi cable?
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post Jun 8 2010, 01:33 AM

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All I can is...if you buy a RM500000 car and someone tells you your car is lousy...hmmm...how would you react? If you had bought a RM50000 car and someone tells you your car is lousy...hmmm...oh ok, cant afford others but it takes me from point A to B. So in actual fact a RM500K car will also take you from point A to B BUT with style.

So, same thing with cables...Monster? Yeah nice. Cheapo cable? Oh OK..at least I get the picture. tongue.gif

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post Jun 8 2010, 09:20 AM

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It's digital...either ur get a perfect picture or you don't. If u get artifacts, then it's broken, otherwise, it's just fine. I've so many cheap HDMI cables...even those that comes with cheap china HD media players...all works fine.
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post Jun 11 2010, 04:20 PM

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cheap unbranded hdmi cable is good enough. no need those branded cable. can read this --> http://reviews.cnet.com/hdmi-cable/

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post Jun 15 2010, 03:12 PM

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thanks for the info guys.. just bought hdmi cable from tesco.. rm19 for 3m..hee
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post Jul 4 2010, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(isma45 @ Jun 15 2010, 03:12 PM)
thanks for the info guys.. just bought hdmi cable from tesco.. rm19 for 3m..hee
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I saw in the tesco promo paper it is now RM10!..but dunno until when ohmy.gif

One thing for sure, HDMI cables in Tesco finishing fast

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post Aug 14 2010, 05:14 PM

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Yup... Went to Tesco Shah alam & Puchong... Out of STock.... biggrin.gif
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post Aug 14 2010, 05:25 PM

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Which Tesco are you all refering to ? I want to buy also.
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QUOTE(sonerin @ Aug 14 2010, 05:25 PM)
Which Tesco are you all refering to ? I want to buy also.
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I'm sure all Tesco have them...its a matter of if they got stock or not....

Now the price is back to RM19...but still, a very good price
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QUOTE(dannyl77 @ Aug 14 2010, 05:14 PM)
Yup... Went to Tesco Shah alam & Puchong... Out of STock.... biggrin.gif
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tesco shah alam got?
go so many time never even see once before
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post Aug 14 2010, 10:58 PM

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tesco extra cheras stil available... rclxms.gif
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post Aug 15 2010, 12:00 AM

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Talking about build quality and non-branded HDMI cable, I am using a few. So far so good. No issue at all.

Anyway, I have this free Panasonic HDMI cable for more than 2 years. 3 weeks ago, I tested this out with a renowned brand that garnered a very good review.

Shocked to find out that it does not improve in audio and in fact the Panasonic has better clarity and transparency in it.

I thought it could be me or placebo. I asked my bro to listen. He said why becomes laid back and sounds a bit 'muffled'?

Quickly removed the said cable and sold it. Now, using the Panasonic cable.
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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 15 2010, 12:00 AM)
Talking about build quality and non-branded HDMI cable, I am using a few. So far so good. No issue at all.

Anyway, I have this free Panasonic HDMI cable for more than 2 years. 3 weeks ago, I tested this out with a renowned brand that garnered a very good review.
Shocked to find out that it does not improve in audio and in fact the Panasonic has better clarity and transparency in it.

I thought it could be me or placebo. I asked my bro to listen. He said why becomes laid back and sounds a bit 'muffled'?

Quickly removed the said cable and sold it. Now, using the Panasonic cable.
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bro which brand? whistling.gif
can PM if not convenience to say it here
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post Aug 15 2010, 08:38 AM

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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 15 2010, 12:00 AM)
Talking about build quality and non-branded HDMI cable, I am using a few. So far so good. No issue at all.

Anyway, I have this free Panasonic HDMI cable for more than 2 years. 3 weeks ago, I tested this out with a renowned brand that garnered a very good review.

Shocked to find out that it does not improve in audio and in fact the Panasonic has better clarity and transparency in it.

I thought it could be me or placebo. I asked my bro to listen. He said why becomes laid back and sounds a bit 'muffled'?

Quickly removed the said cable and sold it. Now, using the Panasonic cable.
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Interesting to see your experience regarding the difference in HDMI audio quality. This article relates an experience specifically about audio quality: http://hometheaterreview.com/critics-say-a...they-are-wrong/
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 15 2010, 08:38 AM)
Interesting to see your experience regarding the difference in HDMI audio quality. This article relates an experience specifically about audio quality: http://hometheaterreview.com/critics-say-a...they-are-wrong/
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AudioQuest Cables promotion?
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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Aug 15 2010, 08:47 AM)
AudioQuest Cables promotion?
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No doubt AQ invited the reviewer to listen. Normally I also take these things with a grain of salt, then I remembered htkaki also said something about cables sounding different.

Generally most people agree that over HDMI the video quality should be the same. I assumed audio quality should be the same also. This is the first time I'm hearing that audio quality might be different. Must research more...
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 15 2010, 08:53 AM)
No doubt AQ invited the reviewer to listen. Normally I also take these things with a grain of salt, then I remembered htkaki also said something about cables sounding different.

Generally most people agree that over HDMI the video quality should be the same. I assumed audio quality should be the same also. This is the first time I'm hearing that audio quality might be different. Must research more...
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I got friend who used to own monster cable hdmi and later bought a few audio quest hdmi-3.
I was told that AQ from audio quest hdmi is better. hmm.gif I can't confirm this tho.
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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 15 2010, 08:53 AM)
No doubt AQ invited the reviewer to listen. Normally I also take these things with a grain of salt, then I remembered htkaki also said something about cables sounding different.

Generally most people agree that over HDMI the video quality should be the same. I assumed audio quality should be the same also. This is the first time I'm hearing that audio quality might be different. Must research more...
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Would be great if a few forummer can lent their ears on this. laugh.gif
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post Aug 15 2010, 03:52 PM

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It is indeed surprising for me. How could a normal HDMI cable,.... I better put it as Standard HDMI cable outperforms the award winning renowned brand.

I have a HDMI from the same brand for about 2 years. It didn't sound as bad as the current model. Yesterday, a customer brought the same brand but higher range for testing.

I must say that while the picture quality does seemingly better in contrast and colour thus creating better better depth, the audio does not have distinct improvement.

It only sounds slightly faster than the Panasonic cable and marginally cleaner. I casually ask him about the price of the cable. It's RM385.

Well, it depends on how one look at it. For him, it is worth the money for the improvement smile.gif


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QUOTE(htkaki @ Aug 15 2010, 03:52 PM)
It is indeed surprising for me. How could a normal HDMI cable,.... I better put it as Standard HDMI cable outperforms the award winning renowned brand.

I have a HDMI from the same brand for about 2 years. It didn't sound as bad as the current model. Yesterday, a customer brought the same brand but higher range for testing.

I must say that while the picture quality does seemingly better in contrast and colour thus creating better better depth, the audio does not have distinct improvement.

It only sounds slightly faster than the Panasonic cable and marginally cleaner. I casually ask him about the price of the cable. It's RM385.

Well, it depends on how one look at it. For him, it is worth the money for the improvement smile.gif
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So you feel that for HDMI cables there is possibility of difference in video and audio quality?

Is the degree of difference similar to say the degree in power cables?
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post Aug 15 2010, 05:39 PM

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There are no difference ni HDMI cable.Just get the cheapest also work the same as the expensive one
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post Aug 15 2010, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Aug 15 2010, 05:30 PM)
So you feel that for HDMI cables there is possibility of difference in video and audio quality?

Is the degree of difference similar to say the degree in power cables?
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Yes, after these test.

I would say not as much as in power cables or maybe I have yet to find one which offers value-for-money (for those who know me well will know what I mean). That's why I am sticking to all my current HDMI cables tongue.gif
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post Aug 15 2010, 11:04 PM

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Yup Tried a few el cheapo hdmi cable. Work as claim.

Choose those with good solid build especially with ferite core and sleeve.
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QUOTE(shadowblack @ Aug 15 2010, 05:39 PM)
There are no difference ni HDMI cable.Just get the cheapest also work the same as the expensive one
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doh.gif i bought mine 4 rm50... cry.gif ori price/shop 'suka2 hati' put price is rm150... blink.gif bundle wit ps3 bcome rm50... shakehead.gif
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post Aug 18 2010, 05:07 PM

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Good resources on HDMI (not sure posted before or not):

http://hdguru.com/hdmi-cable-makers-and-de...-upgrades/2175/
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QUOTE(ianho @ Apr 2 2010, 09:51 PM)
Just saw the HDMI cables at Tesco. Mountains of it, like selling kacang putih. laugh.gif
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Dude, where did you buy it ? Tesco Ipoh ? or Tesco Extra Ipoh ? i want it !
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post Jul 27 2011, 09:43 PM

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I went to Tesco Nilai last weekend. Found nil stock. sigh.
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QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jul 27 2011, 09:43 PM)
I went to Tesco Nilai last weekend. Found nil stock. sigh.
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This Tesco Technika HDMI cable very laku also in Penang. Always no stock till I give their person-in-charge kaw kaw!!
I get a feeling some unscrupulous ppl repacked it and sells it for a hefty profit!
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i'll buy
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Yesterday i bought one cable RM49.90 Cliptec. 1.3b Gold plated. Using it now..
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Tesco Puchong still got alot. Rm19.90. Just got mine.
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I was selling accessories in KLCC , Belkin 1.8Meters HDMI 1.3(Normal Plate) cost@ Rm3.80. Selling Rm130 laugh.gif Profit kao kao laugh.gif
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QUOTE(vincentboleh @ Aug 18 2010, 05:07 PM)
Good resources on HDMI (not sure posted before or not):

http://hdguru.com/hdmi-cable-makers-and-de...-upgrades/2175/
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HDMI cables up to 10 metre - any brand does not matter. Beyond 10 metre quality of shielding comes into play given the cable length and in longer connects perhaps signal boosting mid-way may be required.


 

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