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paskal
post Aug 30 2010, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(malaysiabluray @ Aug 30 2010, 03:34 PM)
Hi,

I'm starting to use HTPC + XBMC also. Now is consolidating all my movies from ripping my previous VCDs  laugh.gif , DVDs and Blu Rays

Got some questions. Hopefully can get some answer here

1) I'm using XMBC to scrape the movies info. No problem for English movies but i have some obcure foreign international movies and lots of old HK movies. Those IMDB and some Chinese scrappers doesn't give enough / correct movie

Can i add a scrapper site on XBMC and how? Or can i manually insert those info (fan arts, actors, ratings etc) for XBMC?
2) XBMC can scrape movie info. Can I know why some choose to use Ember also? How does ember complement or do that XBMC alone can't?
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1. never tried adding another scraper. but with ember, you could scrape the movie from any movie that have an imdb page. manually insertion of metadata are not really adviced as it's quite complicated to edit the nfo files.

2. because it's easier. and allows greater control

QUOTE(echoesian @ Aug 30 2010, 06:56 PM)
Can this XMBC support external subtitle like .srt, .ssa with time sync function?
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have only tried .srt files. and xbmc does support manual time sync using srt subtitles.
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post Sep 2 2010, 11:52 AM

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Anyone have scraper for anime. I try to google, but can't find any. therenamer already dropped out the function.
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post Sep 2 2010, 02:40 PM

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Leave your HTPC on a lot ? Find out how much power it consumes while in use or idle ... Get a power meter. smile.gif
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post Sep 2 2010, 03:21 PM

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i have a plan to build a htpc by the following parts:

i3
i3 mobo
4gb ram
any 5 series with hdmi port (cheap) recomand?
around 550w psu
2x 1tb hdd
medium casing like cm centurion.

i have a question abt the 5 series gc...any cheap and good gpu that can allow me to play those x264 files smoothly? and if a hdmi port gpu...connect directly to my lcd tv port..will it be able to use my lcd tv speaker?
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post Sep 2 2010, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Sep 2 2010, 03:21 PM)
i have a plan to build a htpc by the following parts:

i3
i3 mobo
4gb ram
any 5 series with hdmi port (cheap) recomand?
around 550w psu
2x 1tb hdd
medium casing like cm centurion.

i have a question abt the 5 series gc...any cheap and good gpu that can allow me to play those x264 files smoothly? and if a hdmi port gpu...connect directly to my lcd tv port..will it be able to use my lcd tv speaker?
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yes, connect the hdmi cable directly from discrete card to lcd tv, the sound can be transmit to lcd tv speaker.
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post Sep 2 2010, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(intothefantasy @ Sep 2 2010, 03:21 PM)
i have a plan to build a htpc by the following parts:

i3
i3 mobo
4gb ram
any 5 series with hdmi port (cheap) recomand?
around 550w psu
2x 1tb hdd
medium casing like cm centurion.

i have a question abt the 5 series gc...any cheap and good gpu that can allow me to play those x264 files smoothly? and if a hdmi port gpu...connect directly to my lcd tv port..will it be able to use my lcd tv speaker?
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with core i3, you don't even need a graphics card. just use the integrated graphics. and core i3 does support hardware acceleration and bitstream function (though software decoding is already fast enough to decode x264 and h264).

save your budget and dump it to the case or hdd.
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post Sep 2 2010, 11:17 PM

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i'm planning to build cheap htpc. here is my spec

Asrock 880GM-LE, build in Radeon HD 4250 graphics + hdmi RM250
Athlon II X2 245 RM189
2GB DDR3 RM150
casing + powersupply RM200
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total RM789


is it powerful enough to play 1080p video?

anything else i can do to shave cost?
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post Sep 5 2010, 11:07 PM

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Guys pls help, I can't get the MPlayer Classic Home Cinema and VLC Player to play mkv with .ssa. It can play .srt and .ass
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post Sep 6 2010, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(edex @ Sep 2 2010, 11:17 PM)
i'm planning to build cheap htpc. here is my spec

Asrock 880GM-LE, build in Radeon HD 4250 graphics + hdmi RM250
Athlon II X2 245 RM189
2GB DDR3 RM150
casing + powersupply RM200
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total RM789
is it powerful enough to play 1080p video?

anything else i can do to shave cost?
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Yes, more than enough. Tested with integrated HD 4200 and Athlon II x2 250 before. Used my family low tech pc and hooked it up to my AV receiver. Worked flawlessly. However you might consider getting an ATI 5xxx card if your receiver has TrueHD and DTS-HD decoding.
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post Sep 6 2010, 07:45 PM

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I found this cool HTPC Nettop on Alibaba from iWill company..

ION Based Nettop with Atom 330 Dual Core + Nvidia 9400M

http://iwill.en.alibaba.com/product/335000...ION_nettop.html

It cost like US$180 per pieces ( board, power supply, chasis ) and they need minimal of 2 pcs of sample.. ( WITHOUT laptop RAM & 2.5" HDD )...

Anyone interested to do bulk order & share the shipping cost... the more ppl sharing, the lower the shipping cost...

This looks like a pretty small & powerful HTPC that looks like the mac mini...




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post Sep 6 2010, 08:19 PM

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QUOTE(stan001 @ Sep 6 2010, 07:45 PM)
I found this cool HTPC Nettop on Alibaba from iWill company..

ION Based Nettop with Atom 330 Dual Core + Nvidia 9400M

http://iwill.en.alibaba.com/product/335000...ION_nettop.html

It cost like US$180 per pieces ( board, power supply, chasis )  and they need minimal of 2 pcs of sample.. ( WITHOUT laptop RAM & 2.5" HDD )...

Anyone interested to do bulk order & share the shipping cost... the more ppl sharing, the lower the shipping cost...

This looks like a pretty small & powerful HTPC that looks like the mac mini...
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This one can bitstream HD audio or not?
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post Sep 6 2010, 08:30 PM

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This one can bitstream HD audio or not?
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there's no nvidia based graphics that can bitstream hd audio
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post Sep 6 2010, 08:43 PM

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I found this review about Nvidia ION platform ( on the ASRock Ion 330 nettop with similar specs )

http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?opti...=1&limitstart=1

NVIDIA ION Features

More than web browsing. More than emails. NVIDIA ION graphics processors turn up the visuals on small PCs with graphics performance up to 10X faster than similar systems. Watch the latest movie releases in full 1080p HD video with true-fidelity eight-channel audio. Leave the competition in the dust in today's most popular mainstream 3D games. And enjoy a full Windows 7 or Windows Vista Premium experience on a system that provides much more bang for the buck than similarly-priced PCs. Why settle for a basic PC when you can have a compact, low-power, full PC experience optimized with NVIDIA ION?

Intel's Atom CPU is characterized by its low power footprint and capable processing ability. Many users who purchase an affordable PC today expect it to perform like a full-size system. Although consumers are looking for a great value for their next PC, they still want hardware capable of handling multi-media content like video, photos, and games at some point during the use of their computer. Consider the parents who purchase a computer which is then co-opted by kids wanting to game. Many games simply won't run with typical integrated graphics. In a business environment, today's users need to be able to manage photos, graphics, and video, and they are often severely limited by the integrated solution in today's Atom-based systems.

Small Mini-ITX Form Factor

ION-based PCs are not only small, they cost less to buy and operate, use less power, take up less space, and are much quieter. Despite its surprisingly small size, the ASRock Nettop ION 330 platform is a fully capable motherboard with advanced graphics and impressive multimedia features.

High Definition Audio (HDA)

High definition audio brings consumer electronics quality sound to the PC, delivering high quality sound from multiple channels. Using HDA, systems can deliver 192 kHz/32-bit quality for eight channels.

Integrated HDMI technology with HDCP

An onboard HDMI connector designed to meet the output protection management (HDCP v1.3a) and security specifications of the Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD formats allows the playback of encrypted movie content on PCs when connected to HDCP-compliant displays. The ASRock Nettop ION 330 includes HDMI for a true-to-life reproduction of Full HD video, and a VGA connector. Both connectors can be used simultaneously to drive separate displays.

7.1-Channel HD Audio via HDMI

Full support for premium 1080p HD video with true-fidelity 7.1-channel audio make designs built with the NVIDIA ION GPU more advanced than any other systems in its class.

NVIDIA Native Gigabit Ethernet Technology

The industry's fastest Gigabit Ethernet performance eliminates network bottlenecks, improves overall system efficiency and performance, and guarantees an ultrafast network connection into the network of other home computers.


Media Player Classic Home Cinema

Media Player Classic (MPC) is a freeware player that uses the traditional Windows Media Player 6.4 interface, but is packed with modern features. Features include support for many video and audio formats, and full support for NVIDIA GPU hardware acceleration. One of the popular file formats supported by Media Player Classic is Matroska, the extensible open standard Audio/Video container. Matroska is usually found as .MKV files (matroska video) and .MKA files (matroska audio). With Media Player Classic properly configured, the ASRock Nettop ION 330 can play large .MKV files, up to 1080p resolution, using NVIDIA GPU hardware acceleration. The movie file is able to play both the video and audio smoothly without any skipping/stuttering while keeping even a single-core Atom CPU load at a minimum.

ION Media and Communications Processor

The NVIDIA ION Platform is powered by the NVIDIA® GeForce® 9400 GPU, that transforms low-cost Intel Atom-based PC designs into a premium experience. It is fully Windows Vista Premium compliant, and supports Premium DirectX 10 graphics with advanced digital display connectivity. Below are the features built into the NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GPU that powers the ION platform:

16 Dedicated GPU Cores - NVIDIA GeForce 9400 GPUs for Intel redefine the entry-level PC gaming experience. With a revolutionary unified architecture and 16 dedicated GPU cores, they deliver unprecedented performance and detailed environments.
NVIDIA® CUDATM technology - The 16 parallel processors built into ION are harnessed by CUDATM Software to accelerate a broad range of compute intensive applications, vastly improving your PC's ability to work with visual content such as video encoding.
Full Microsoft DirectX 10 Support - A DirectX 10 GPU with full Shader Model 4.0 support delivers unparalleled levels of graphics realism and film-quality effects. NVIDIA® ION graphics processors include 16 dedicated graphics cores to deliver the best visual experience.
Built for Microsoft Windows Vista - The fourth-generation NVIDIA GPU architecture built for Vista offers the best possible experience with Windows Aero 3D graphical user interface.
NVIDIA LumenexTM Engine - Delivers stunning image quality and floating point accuracy with ultra-fast frame rates and a blistering 3.6 billion/second texture fill rate.
16× Antialiasing Technology - High-quality antialiasing at up to 16× sample rates obliterates jagged edges.
128-bit Floating Point High Dynamic-Range (HDR) Lighting - Twice the precision of prior generations for incredibly realistic lighting effects-now with support for anti-aliasing.
OpenGL 2.0 Optimizations and Support - Ensures top-notch compatibility and performance for OpenGL applications.
300 MHz RAMDAC - Blazing-fast RAMDAC supports display with high, ergonomic refresh rates up to and including 2048 × 1536 at 75 Hz.
NVIDIA® nView® Multi-Display Technology - Advanced technology provides the ultimate in viewing flexibility and control for multiple digital and analog monitors.
NVIDIA® PowerMizer® System Extensions - The dedicated PowerMizer® microcontroller intelligently monitors application and device activity to seamlessly adapt performance to suit the task at hand. By matching the performance to the application, PowerMizer ensures the ION graphics processor provides the longest battery life possible.



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post Sep 6 2010, 08:58 PM

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High Definition Audio (HDA)

High definition audio brings consumer electronics quality sound to the PC, delivering high quality sound from multiple channels. Using HDA, systems can deliver 192 kHz/32-bit quality for eight channels.

7.1-Channel HD Audio via HDMI

Full support for premium 1080p HD video with true-fidelity 7.1-channel audio make designs built with the NVIDIA ION GPU more advanced than any other systems in its class.
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it can transmit LPCM 7.1, but won't bitstream DTS-HDMA/TruHD to the receiver.
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post Sep 6 2010, 09:01 PM

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-1...er-pc,2715.html

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Does anybody know where to buy this ar? This one looks quite small and cool and also can bitstream HD audio

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post Sep 7 2010, 11:16 PM

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i am planning my first htpc

currently i have Asus P7H55-M Pro in my mind.. couple with i3 530... but its hard to find h55-m pro in malaysia > <''
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post Sep 7 2010, 11:56 PM

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i am planning my first htpc

currently i have Asus P7H55-M Pro in my mind.. couple with i3 530... but its hard to find h55-m pro in malaysia > <''
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any particular reason to get that particular board?
h55m board (non-pro) are real easy to find locally.
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post Sep 8 2010, 09:12 AM

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QUOTE(paskal @ Sep 7 2010, 11:56 PM)
any particular reason to get that particular board?
h55m board (non-pro) are real easy to find locally.
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yupe.. h55m quite easy to find.. i found that the review for pro version quite good, a good htpc board with good OC features
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post Sep 8 2010, 10:54 AM

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QUOTE(echoesian @ Sep 5 2010, 11:07 PM)
Guys pls help, I can't get the MPlayer Classic Home Cinema and VLC Player to play mkv with .ssa. It can play .srt and .ass
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please give a try on the output setting, please take note on the ** remark below:

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after you open ur mkv, just drag the .srt to MPC-HC. look at the status bar below of MPC-HC for info.

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post Sep 8 2010, 10:56 PM

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QUOTE(rammstein1986 @ Sep 6 2010, 01:07 AM)
Yes, more than enough. Tested with integrated HD 4200 and Athlon II x2 250 before. Used my family low tech pc and hooked it up to my AV receiver. Worked flawlessly. However you might consider getting an ATI 5xxx card if your receiver has TrueHD and DTS-HD decoding.
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What about ATI HD 5570? Is this capable to play blueray movie without any deinterlacing problem?


Added on September 8, 2010, 11:03 pm
QUOTE(johnny82 @ Aug 24 2010, 12:04 PM)
can pentium 4 even play mkv or those 720/1080p movies properly?
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Actually I have a following P4 s478 setup:

- P4 3.2Ghz
- P4 mobo
- 1GB DDR 400
- Nvidia 7300GS AGP GC


Even try to play a 720p mkv(Ip Man - size around 5GB), it play with slow motion.. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
wasted my $$$ bought the 7300GS doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif



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