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post Mar 13 2010, 10:20 AM, updated 16y ago

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Liverpool Football Club

Founded: 1892

Founded by: John Houlding

Nickname: The Reds

Ground : Anfield

Chairman:
Tom Hicks (co-chairman)
George Gillett (co-chairman)

Manager :
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Rafael Benítez

Assistant Manager:
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Sammy Lee

Captain:
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Steven Gerrard

Vice Captain:
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Jamie Carragher
League Champions -----> 18
1900-01 ; 1905-06 ; 1921-22 ; 1922-23 ; 1946-47 ; 1963-64 ; 1965-66
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1979-80 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83
1983-84 ; 1985-86 ; 1987-88 ; 1989-90

Division Two Winners -----> 4
1893-94 ; 1895-96 ; 1904-05 ; 1961-62

Lancashire League Winners -----> 1
1892-93

Football Association Challenge Cup Winners -----> 7
1964-65 ; 1973-74 ; 1985-86 ; 1988-89 ; 1991-92
2000-01 ; 2005-06

League Cup Winners -----> 7
1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1982-83 ; 1983-84 ; 1994-95
2000-01 ; 2002-03

Football Association Charity Shield Winners -----> 15
1964* ; 1965* ; 1966 ; 1974 ; 1976 ; 1977* ; 1979 ; 1980 ; 1982
1986* ; 1988 ; 1989 ; 1990* ; 2001 ; 2006 ( * shared)

European Cup Winners -----> 5
1976-77 ; 1977-78 ; 1980-81 ; 1983-84 ; 2004-05

UEFA Cup Winners -----> 3
1972-73 ; 1975-76 ; 2000-01

European Super Cup Winners -----> 3
1977 ; 2001 ; 2005

Super Cup Winners -----> 1
1985-86

Carlsberg Trophy -----> 3
1997-98 ; 1998-99 ; 1999-2000

Reserves Division One Winners -----> 16
1956-57 ; 1968-69 ; 1969-70 ; 1970-71 ; 1972-73 ; 1973-74 ; 1974-75
1975-76 ; 1976-77 ; 1978-79 ; 1980-81 ; 1981-82 ; 1983-84 ; 1984-85
1989-90 ; 1999-2000

FA Youth Cup Winners -----> 3
1995-96 ; 2005-06 ; 2006-07

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post Mar 13 2010, 10:21 AM

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The History


1959 - Shankly appointed manager

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December 1st 1959 is a date that will forever be etched in the annals of Anfield history. For it was on this day that Liverpool Football Club announced Huddersfield Town boss Bill Shankly would be their new manager in succession to Phil Taylor.


On his appointment he released 24 players and began to reshape the team.Promotion to the First Division was achieved in 1961–62, and the club won the League for the first time in 17 years in 1963–64. Another League title followed in 1965–66, after the club had won their first FA Cup the previous season. The club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1972–73 and the FA Cup again a year later; after this, Shankly retired and was replaced by his assistant Bob Paisley.Paisley was even more successful than Shankly and the club won the League and UEFA Cup in 1975–76, his second season as manager. The following season they retained the League title, won the European Cup for the first time, but lost in the FA Cup final, narrowly missing out on a treble. Liverpool retained the European Cup the next season, and the season after won the League again with 68 points—a domestic record, conceding only 16 goals in 42 league matches.During the nine seasons Paisley managed the club, Liverpool won 21 trophies, including three European Cups, a UEFA Cup, six league titles and three consecutive League Cups. The only domestic trophy to elude him was the FA Cup.

Paisley retired in 1983 and (as Shankly had done) handed the reins to his assistant, veteran coach Joe Fagan. The succession of coaches came from the Anfield Boot Room where the Liverpool staff discussed strategy and allegedly stored gin.[10] Liverpool won three trophies in Fagan's first season in charge: the League, League Cup and European Cup, becoming the first English side to win three trophies in a season.Liverpool reached the European Cup final again in 1985. The match was against Juventus at the Heysel Stadium. Before kick-off, disaster struck: Liverpool fans breached a fence which separated the two groups of supporters and charged the Juventus fans. The resulting weight of people caused a retaining wall to collapse, killing 39 fans, mostly Italians. The match was played regardless and Liverpool lost 1–0 to Juventus. English clubs were consequently banned from participating in European competition for five years; Liverpool received a ten-year ban, which was later reduced to six years. Fourteen of their fans received convictions for involuntary manslaughter.
The statue of former manager Bill Shankly, outside Anfield

Fagan resigned after the disaster and Kenny Dalglish was appointed as player-manager.During his reign, the club won another three League Championships and two FA Cups, including a League and Cup "Double" in 1985–86. Liverpool's success was overshadowed by the Hillsborough Disaster: in an FA Cup semi-final against Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989, hundreds of Liverpool fans were crushed. 94 fans died that day; the 95th victim died in hospital from his injuries four days later, and the 96th died nearly four years later without regaining consciousness. After the Hillsborough tragedy there was a governmental review of stadium safety. Known as the Taylor Report, it paved the way for legislation which required top-division teams to have all-seater stadiums. The report ruled that the main reason for the disaster was overcrowding due to a failure of police control.Dalglish cited the Hillsborough Disaster and its repercussions as the reason for his resignation in 1991. He was replaced by former player Graeme Souness. Apart from winning the FA Cup in 1992, Souness achieved little success and was replaced by a former member of the "Boot Room", Roy Evans. Evans fared little better: a League Cup victory in 1995 was his only trophy. Gérard Houllier was appointed as co-manager in 1998–99, but was left in sole charge after Evans resigned in November 1998.

In his second season in charge Liverpool won a unique treble of the FA Cup, League Cup and UEFA Cup.In the 2001-02 season, during which Houllier underwent major heart surgery, Liverpool finished second behind Arsenal.The following seasons failed to live up to expectations and Houllier was replaced by Rafael Benítez. The club finished fifth in his first season in charge but won the UEFA Champions League by beating Milan 3–2 in a penalty shootout after the match finished 3–3.The following season Liverpool finished third with 82 points—their highest total since 1988. They won the FA Cup as they had the Champions League victory the previous season, by beating West Ham United in penalty shootout after the match finished at 3–3. In 2006–07, the club's search for investment came to an end when American businessmen George Gillett and Tom Hicks became the owners of Liverpool in a deal which valued the club and its outstanding debts at £218.9 million. That season, the club reached another Champions League final, but this time lost 2–1 to Milan
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Liverpool Squad Season 08/09
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First team players

Goalkeepers:
(25) Pepe Reina
(1) Diego Cavalieri
(30) Charles Itandje
(40) David Martin
(41) Martin Hansen
(42) Peter Gulacsi
Defenders:
(38) Andrea Dossena
(22) Emiliano Insúa
(12) Fábio Aurélio
(5) Daniel Agger
(23) Jamie Carragher
(37) Martin Škrtel
(16)Sotirios Kyrgiakos
(2) Glen Johnson
(27) Philipp Degen
(32) Stephen Darby
(34) Martin Kelly
(51) Mikel San Jose
(52) Daniel Ayala
(36) Steve Irwin
Midfielders:
(11) Albert Riera
( 4)Alberto Aquilani
(15) Yossi Benayoun
(8) Steven Gerrard
(20) Javier Mascherano
(21) Lucas Leiva
(28) Damien Plessis
(26) Jay Spearing
(31) Nabil El Zhar
(35) Ryan Flynn

Strikers:

(9) Fernando Torres
(18) Dirk Kuyt
(24) David N'Gog
(19) Ryan Babel
(10) Andriy Voronin
(39) Nathan Eccleston
(50) Daniel Pacheco
(29) Krisztian Nemeth

Players Out On Loan:
Season 09/10 Fixtures

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LFC Top Scorer for Premier League


Fernando "El Nino" Torres 10
Black Horse Dirk Kuyt 3
Yossi "The Messi" Benayoun 3
Steven "Captain Marvel" Gerrard 3
Glen "Super Wingback" Johnson 2
David N'Gog 2
Ryan Babel 2

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The Quotes


Rafa Benitez

On Jose Mourinho,Pre-match press conference before Chelsea 2nd leg
"He is a good manager,yes, but he will lose tomorrow"

On finishing fifth
"I know being in the top four of the Premier League is very important, but you will never see any club honours list recording an historic fourth place in the Premier League."

On King Luis' "ghost goal"

"Luis said to me that as he turned away, he was right on the line, and he said the ball was over the line. And after the game my secretary Sheila, who was sitting right in line in the main stand, said to me that the ball had crossed the line. She is a very honest person and that was good enough for me. It was a goal."

On Robben's play acting
"Sorry i must hurry i am to the hospital to see Robben, maybe his neck is broke, maybe if Reina had of reacted like that when gallas touched him his neck would be broke also"

On Robbie "God" Fowler
"People can talk about having a lot of money to buy players but we've just signed a player with a passion and a heart for this club that no amount of money can buy."

"I think he is going to be a big asset for us. I know he is glad to have signed as he has taught me a new English phrase about being over the moon!"


In response to rumours over his future at anfield and a possible move to Real Madrid
I am very happy here for sure, my family is very happy here too, we are settled very well. my youngest daughter speaks alot of english now, more so even than spanish, and she speaks with scouse accent so i cannot understand her (beaming smile) but she also speaks alot of spanish, or sometimes even gets mixed up and speaks alot of spanglish

In response to Fergie's claim that Liverpool only play 5 minutes football in the victory

"If we can win a game in five minutes against a top team just think how much more terrible damage there would be if we played for the other 85 minutes."


On King Luis

"He's always a player from whom you can expect something different. If you're struggling in a game you can either do two things, send your centre back up front as a centre forward or use Luis Garcia between the lines."

On Liverpool Supporters
"Before, I said that they were maybe the best supporters in England.Now maybe they are the best supporters in Europe if not the World."

Humorous reply to the media on Fowler
Q:"If Robbie scores the winner against Chelsea, will he get a new contract?"

A:" No. No he won't .......He is cup tied."


On his poor English(1st season)
I'm not here to speak English.I'm here to win trophies.

'As I have said many times, I've come here to win trophies, not to learn English'.


His typical, repetitive answers

"this is our idea"

"....we will have more control over situations, and this will give us more possiblilities...."

We could have score more.

We only think of the next game.

"he has good game intelligence"


"...for sure

"we have more options"


On Gerrard's saga
"When people talk to me about Gerrard and say he wants to win trophies, I say, 'me too'. I want to win trophies, I am not here to learn English, I am here for winning trophies."

"I am not in favour of selling him and we are building a great team around him because we want him to be the skipper who wins the most titles in Liverpool's history."

"We are preparing a special weightlifting plan for Gerrard's shoulders because we want him to lift a lot of trophies for Liverpool in the next few years.

Pre-Chelsea press conference
Journo: Are you wearing your lucky jacket?

Rafa: No, it's normal. I have confidence in my team, not my jacket!


Post-Chelsea press conference
Journo: Were you confident when you saw Chelsea's team sheet?

Rafa: I was confident when I saw my own team sheet!


On rivalry with the Mancs:
I understand it. It’s similar to the rivalry with Everton but this time it’s about two of the top sides and it’s very important we win this game.


On the linesman of the Bolton game
"It's the first time I've seen a linesman who wants to be a star"

On paying 7m for Pennant

"I do not know many right wingers in this country who are better than Pennant playing in the Premier. Who else, (Shaun) Wright-Phillips at £21 million?

On the journalists

"After this they started changing words and at the end of the day you are in jail!

On catching Chelsea in the league table

"If you start counting your chickens then, at the end, you will have problems."

On the speculation about Henry before the match against Arsenal
"I even heard rumours this week that Henry was supposedly coming to Liverpool. All I can say is that he is coming tomorrow but will be going back to London after the game. He might come here on Tuesday as well!"

On being referred to as a tactical genius
“You cannot be a genius if you do not have good players. You can have the best tactics, but if I put all you journalists on the pitch, I’m sure we will lose.“

On Carra
"He reminds me of a hunting dog, when I want something specific done in defence he is very willing to learn. As a defender he is someone you do not want to play against, to have marking you."

On getting to grips with the Language
"I talk to carra, if you can understand him you can understand anyone."

On Anfield
"This is Anfield, they say you'll never walk alone... it's true!"

On cricket
"A lot of people say it is a fantastic game because nobody knows the rules, I say to the wife i am going to play a game and i wont be back for 5 or 10 days"

When asked about the new owners watching the game against PSV.
Reporter to Rafa: The new owners must have been really impressed with this performance/

Rafa: The players were impressive. The new owners were just watching the game.


On Crouch

"I was pleased also with Peter Crouch. We have been talking to him, before and after his nose operation, to show more confidence with his heading.

"Now it seems to have worked. Lets say that if he has a few games without scoring again, maybe we should arrange to break his nose again."


On Rotation Policy

"You know me, I like to rotate the team 99 times if I can,"

"We may be in a very good rugby town here in Toulouse. But this isn't rugby - I cannot use 15 players.

"Sadly, I've been unable to persuade Fifa, Uefa, and the Premier League to allow me to use 12 players in every game."


On Champion League group qualifying
Q : Which two teams will qualify from this group?
Rafa : This question provides me with an opportunity to use an expression I learnt the other day. I don't have a crystal ball. I cannot predict the future.


On spending for transfers

"But we have a saying in Spain that you never sell the house to buy a window. You don't spend more money than you have."

"It's easier if you've got the money to go into the transfer market. Imagine if you want to buy a jacket, if you have £1000 you can buy a good jacket, but if you have £10,000 you can buy the best"


On Mourinho
""We were good friends until we started winning, then he started changing his mind.

"It's the same with the managers of the top sides. He has good relationships with managers of teams he beats."

"He fights with the managers of the top sides. He has already started it with us, yesterday!"


Mourinho claimed that Liverpool will spend the first leg attempting to get Didier Dropba booked, with the big striker set to miss the second game if he is carded by referee Markus Merk.

"Maybe Mourinho is thinking about this because he was doing exactly the same thing two years ago over Xabi Alonso,"
When Mourinho claimed that referee missed out a penalty
"I haven't seen the replay but if he says it was a penalty, sure it was a penalty."

After Mourinho claimed that Liverpool is under pressure

"He said he does not talk about other teams, maybe he forgot this time.

In the post-match press conference when Liverpool manager Benitez was informed that Jose Mourinho had responded to Steven Gerrard's criticism of Chelsea by painting a picture of an angelic, or at least "naive", team.
Rafa:"Then I am Little Red Riding Hood,"

After Grant took over
"The only difference I see between Mourinho and Grant is in their press conferences!

On the Supporters
"At Stamford Bridge, we won in the stands, that was clear. The other supporters were with their flags, but our supporters were with their hearts. We don't need to give flags. It's easy for us."

After the match against Everton
"its hard playing against the SMALLER clubs"

On Chelsea
Q:How big a loss is Ricardo Carvalho to Chelsea?

A:If he cannot play – and remember they said the same last time – they have enough quality to replace him. I don't think he's any more important than John Terry. Before, when they lost Terry, they were saying they'd lost the best centre-back in the world. Now, Carvalho is the best centre-back in the world.


On King Kenny during the Kenny week
"Kenny Dalglish would be my first choice for Liverpool's best ever player because he was a great player with a lot of qualities."

On Torres

He can do it because he's a player with pace. This ability when you have pace is an issue. I have ability but I don't have pace so I can't beat anyone! But Torres can do it"

Rafa's jokes

On his beard
"its just because during the summer I lost my razor!"

Interviewer gets the joke but doesn't find it all that funny so he goes smiling:

"so you haven't found it since??"

"no i have found but now its broken!"


On Inter Milan

Q: What do you feel are the differences between AC Milan - a side you have faced twice in the final of this competition - and Inter?

Rafa: The difference between AC Milan and Inter is in the shirt.


On his players
"My players travel more than Willy Fogg," Benitez said to quizzical looks.
"Willy Fogg?
Around the World in 80 Days?"
"Phileas Fogg, you mean."
"Oh, yes, Phileas Fogg, sorry."

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On the birth of Xabi's son:
"I was preparing a new contract for his son,"

On the owner

Interviewer :Everyone is saying George Gillet is coming to watch this game tonight, does that make any difference to you or are you just focussed on that 90 minutes tomorrow?

Rafa :I think that he is not available for tomorrow so, he is not a big difference for me in my team selection.


When asked if the American owners of Liverpool will be analysing the game, he said: "
I don't know if they have a TV."

After PSV game
Irish interviewer: " Good night Rafa?" referring to the result.

Rafa: "Goodnight" with a broad smile and pretends to finish the chat


On his reaction after the goal

Q:One thing that surprised me was that after Kuyt scored and leveled the match, you didn’t jump out of your seat. Everyone else around you jumped right off their seats to celebrate but all you did was stand up and walk near the sideline to shout some instructions. Who were you talking to?

A:Yes, I was speaking to Sami Hyypia because we were having some problems adjusting at the back and I was trying to correct those mistakes. I believe that my job is not to jump around but to try and analyze things and find solutions to any problems we might be having.
Before Champion League clash with Arsenal
"I won't settle for any less (than victory). I have always had that mentality. Even as a child, I always hated losing at anything, chess or whatever.
"It is the same now, even at home. Just ask my wife. She says I never let the children win at anything. OK, sometimes I go easy on the younger one, but not the other. She is old enough and only wins on merit.


After 0-2 victory over Fulham

"We have a problem with Sami. He has a knock in the head. He was dizzy so I asked him if he'd seen the third goal! He just looked at me (with a confused look).

On Gerrard twisted his neck during training
The other day, he wanted to play but he was only able to look to the right, so I told him he could play as a left winger! We'll see if he can turn his head round and look the other way now.

"We will talk together, with the doctor. The player will say he wants to play, but there's an easy way of finding out whether he's fit. I will come up and tap him on the left shoulder and if he turns to face me without any pain, we will know he can play."


On Riise

"Fabio will be out for three weeks, so Riise knows he has to be ready and give everything for us. The best solution would be for him to score at Stamford Bridge... in the right goal.

On the late comebacks
“If it continues like this I will have to seek a neurologist — I don’t like these late comebacks.

"The last-minute goal is bad for the heart, but a great way to win. Do I believe in fate? I believe in hard work. In Spain we say 'luck is in love with people who work hard'. We work hard, so hopefully we'll have more luck."

On defending Crouch in the game
It's about beating him in the air, so we will use Mascherano against him! laugh.gif

On Ferguson
Journalist: Some comments were made by Alex Ferguson about Robbie Keane and the price you paid for him - were they ill-timed?
Rafa: I think he was surprised about the price because he was cheap. They paid around £30m for Berbatov, Rooney or Ferdinand - or even £35m for Tevez. That is maybe where the surprise came from.


"Or there is another option. That Mr Ferguson organises the fixtures in his office and sends it to us and everyone will know and cannot complain. That is simple."

He is the only manager in the league that cannot be punished for these things.

"All managers need to know is that only Mr Ferguson can talk about the fixtures, can talk about referees and nothing happens.

“I try not to talk too much, but all I can do when I speak is to defend my own team."

He has been playing these kind of mind games for many years. Nobody has ever said anything against him or stood up to him. It seems like he has a licence to do these sort of things.



Press conference ahead of the Newcastle match

(conversation moves on to the previous midweek Champions League Semi-Finals)

Reporter: Obviously in the middle of the week there were the Champions League Semi-Finals...did you watch those games...

Rafa: Yes I was watching the games but I will not say anything...

Reporter: Was it difficult for you to watch them...

Rafa: No, it was easy. I was in front of the telly (makes gesture of wide-screen tv) it was a big telly! It was easy!!


On Hyypia


I think Liverpool are losing a legend.For years he has been so good. He has scored important goals and has been very, very good in defence. Clearly we are losing an important player.

Before the match against manu at Anfield after 4 successive defeats.

Journalist: If you win on Sunday, everything that has been said and written recently will almost be forgotten. Is that something you have to get used to in modern football?

Yes, it is clear every week that everything changes. It is something you have to understand. With the internet, people need to write things every day, they need to sell newspapers every day, but they don't have too much news, so they have to say a lot of things. It is part of the game and you have to adapt to it.


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Sammy Lee
On Alex Ferguson and Sam Allardyce attacks on Rafa
"This is not Britain's Got Talent; you don't win anything for being popular, but our manager is not arrogant. He is astute, learned, educated and his attention to detail is fantastic. We are all a bit sensitive to criticism but he knows what he is doing, why he is doing it and who he is gesticulating at!"

Steven Gerrard

We are Liverpool Football Club and the expectations are so high.

Fernando Torres

I feel flattered at being nominated for the FIFA World Player. It is a proud moment for me, and an incentive to keep on working hard.I want to win trophies with Liverpool.

19th June 2009
For me the biggest privilege in Europe is the red shirt of Liverpool.

When asked about the departure of Ronaldo to Real Madrid.

We won't win the title because Manchester United have become weaker but because we have become better. To look at it like that is a loser's mentality and that is not the way of Liverpool Football Club.


Xabi Alonso


On his transfer saga
[The fans] couldn't have done more to show me how they felt... If I went out for lunch or a coffee, there was always someone who would come over and say, 'We'd love you to stay'. I'm just glad that, in the end, nothing came of it [the transfer] because it wasn't something I ever asked for."


Sami Hyypia


"I think it will only be after I've finally left that I'll be able to sit back and realise what we've done in my ten years. It's hard to take in now. It is nice to be remembered here."

"I'd like to come back to Liverpool one day as a coach, and it was great to hear the manager would like me to return,"



Reina


from Martin O'Neill after 0-1 defeat against Reds

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"Their keeper made a great save in each half, particularly the one from Stewart Downing - it was a great, great save. And then there was the one from Gabby later on. We had two go inches past the post too.

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REDS AROUND THE WORLD: MALAYSIA
Jonno Lim, Malaysia 13 January 2009

Meet 32-year-old events manager Jonno Lim, who helps run an independent supporters’ club and gets up at the crack of dawn to catch the Reds in action with hundreds of other fans in a crowded Malaysian bar.
Like most things, my association with the Malaysian independent supporters' club started with a few beers. After meeting on the fans' forum Red and White Kop (RAWK), we decided that as there were a fair number of us Reds in the same corner of the world, the least we could do was watch a game together in a bar.

Liverpool ran home 3-0 winners over Everton at Goodison Park that day in August 2003, with Michael Owen scoring a brace and Harry Kewell getting the third goal just before the final whistle.

Having supported the club from afar for so long, it felt very special to be enjoying a Liverpool victory with a few like-minded people. I had watched the Reds with friends before, but nothing like this. Even the owner of the Boardwalk on the outskirts of Kuala Lumpur was a Reds fanatic, so it became known as the closest thing any Malaysian Red could get to the special Anfield atmosphere.

There are so many Liverpool fans in this part of the world, and they all have their own story to tell. Some adopt the Reds because of their history, others simply get drawn in by the miracle of Istanbul in 2005 or the breathtaking 'Gerrard Final' of 2006.


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The only reason I can offer for following the Reds is probably quite similar to most people's - all of my family are massive Liverpool fans. It goes way back to the seventies and beyond, so it was a no-brainer for me to be the same as them.

My earliest memory is of Michael Thomas and Ian Rush securing the FA Cup for Liverpool with great goals against Sunderland at Wembley in 1992. I can also vividly remember Neil 'Razor' Ruddock holding his head after scoring a late equaliser in the dramatic 3-3 draw with Manchester United in January 1994.

Nigel Clough scored twice that day, but the look on Ruddock's face will remain with me forever - the ball hit him on the top of his head before going in the net and he seemed in quite a lot of pain while celebrating his decisive goal at Anfield. I couldn't stop laughing.

As time went by, my Liverpool obsession grew. We experienced many joyous Saturday and Sunday nights at the Boardwalk over the years and celebrated many great Liverpool victories there. But our friend, Bala, soon told us he had to sell his bar and we were left with nowhere to watch our beloved Reds during the early hours of the morning over here in Malaysia.

And when the new owner of the Boardwalk told us they would not be opening for the 2007 Champions League final clash with AC Milan due to the fact it would be kicking off at 3.30am over here, we knew that we had to act quickly to find a new venue.

After a long and frustrating search, we finally found a small pub that would open for the match. We got in touch with our friends and fellow supporters to join us for the big game, as we knew that whenever Liverpool was involved in a big European game, it was guaranteed to be something special.


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We only really expected about 50 people to turn up at the most, but the bar ended up being crammed full with about 200 fans, all screaming at the screen, willing on the Reds. We were all disappointed that Rafa's men did not win that night in Athens, but a few of us knew right then that not only did we need a bigger venue, but also a proper fan club to bring all of these Liverpool supporters together.

We called our new supporters' club 'MyRAWK', as most of us had met through RAWK, while the ‘My’ stands for Malaysia and also gives us a sense that a certain part of LFC can belong to us individually.

Things were tough at the beginning, but settling on the M Bar as our exclusive home for watching all the games helped us a lot. The owner agreed to open up at all the unsociable hours involved in supporting a club many miles away and laid on a host of generous drinks offers.

What started as a small MyRAWK blog soon turned into a full website, and before long we had Liverpool fans joining us from all over for our match-viewing parties. From local lawyers to homesick expats, tourists to ex players (Ian Rush once even joined us - that was a very special day), the M Bar is now full of fervent fans week in, week out. I usually take up the microphone at each event and am always proud to be the official master of ceremonies.

We even have our futsal team and are also in the process of setting up a full 11-a side side. Our interim team recently won our first trophy, the Christmas Cup and one day we hope to have a proper team which takes part in the local social league.

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But due to the exchange rate and distance, not many of us have been lucky enough to get over to Anfield. I am currently saving up to make the pilgrimage one day next season with a few other fans. I'm sure that once we get up close to Liverpool's hallowed home, there will be many of us who will be close to tears, as this would be nothing short of our visiting our very own Mecca.

One of our newer members, Phil, who now lives in Liverpool, always talks about how unbelievable it is that a bunch of guys who have never seen the Reds play up close can wake up in the middle of the night to support a team who are playing nearly 7,000 miles away, only to go back to bed and rise for work less than two hours later.

But none of us at MyRAWK would have it any other way. Witnessing another Liverpool victory make all the long, sleepy days in the office after a match worth it - and believe you me, there have been a lot of those in recent years.

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QUOTE(pskk @ Mar 12 2010, 05:19 PM)
as a liv fan, i'm accustomed to disappointment...or rather i dont set the bar too high altho i do pray....
i thk they did too well last season.....so now everyone is hurting more incl myself.

when they did well, most of you guys were full of praises n now you are calling for their heads.....
as for me, i'm gonna stick by them despite the mistakes that had been made this season n go back to my cave...

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hmm... my rumour mongering skills seem to have leveled up. Last time i netted jonno, now duke and nando perhaps? laugh.gif

seriously though, some of the issues in there reflect what i think is wrong;
1) reina, torres and mascherano seem to be getting more and more influential in the team and perhaps Gerrard, having carried Liverpool on his own for so long doesn't quite feel as comfortable as before.
2) on the other hand some of the other players, carragher included tend to kow tow to gerrard to often for me likings
3) rafa fails to understand the importance of man management and
4) sammy is a wuss
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Mar 12 2010, 06:35 PM)
good for you for sticking up with them eventhough they have gone way beyond disappointment.

it's true maybe i (we?) put such high expectations from them because they were excellent last season. but i for one didn't bother if they dont win the league this season.. or the next. what i really hope they continue to play decent and entertain. even when they off form and played ugly, i don't mind as long as they win it. but the way they played now is worst than a League 1 outfit.

when they did well, of course we praises them.. but when they played like shit why can't we criticize? they get paid outrageous money every week to play well. not the opposite.

rafa should stop playing lucas and put stevie at the middle or replace him with the little guy with bones made in china. TWENTY FREAKIN MILLIONS just to sit on the bench or sometimes watch from the stand. sweet!
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Oh my. Rafa should play Babel more. drop Lucas, play Aquilani.
Aquilani will be match fit IF he play some game, not by sitting at the bench or running around some training cones.
for me, just get over this season. forget CL next season. try rebuild our squad.
and for Lille game, maybe its me (i might be wrong). they should do something bout their pitch.
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the time has come to ask yourself this question...

"when was the last time you actually put on your jersey and went to the pub and know for a fact Liverpool will win a game?"

I have been cynical and skeptical of late. I put on my jersey... go to the pub and "hope" we will win but due to unpredictability of the FATES, I seem to view it as a bonus if we won, and if we didn't, we blame everything that is put on our way, the owner, the manager, the players (especially Lucas tongue.gif) and then we still put on our jerseys and then watch the game over and over every week in and week out.

Where I am getting at is there are no right and wrong about what we say, some of us are harsh we have opinions and we are angry with what has transpired for so long since the start of this campaign. are we blind to the fact that we still support a club that is in the slums? are we gonna jump ships? everyone is laughing at the fact that LFC is in deep shit, can't deny that can we?

Screw it boys, come what may, the most important fact is whether or not you still feel like being one with the club you supported. Matters little that Rafa may stay or go, or the owners still being asses, or if our players all leave... because we can't do shit about it.

What we can do is "put on that jersey and watch the game" and on a side note, we are actually for the first time in many seasons - RIDING THE FARKING STORM smile.gif
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QUOTE(REDShaun @ Mar 13 2010, 11:39 AM)
the time has come to ask yourself this question...

"when was the last time you actually put on your jersey and went to the pub and know for a fact Liverpool will win a game?"

I have been cynical and skeptical of late. I put on my jersey... go to the pub and "hope" we will win but due to unpredictability of the FATES, I seem to view it as a bonus if we won, and if we didn't, we blame everything that is put on our way, the owner, the manager, the players (especially Lucas tongue.gif) and then we still put on our jerseys and then watch the game over and over every week in and week out.

Where I am getting at is there are no right and wrong about what we say, some of us are harsh we have opinions and we are angry with what has transpired for so long since the start of this campaign. are we blind to the fact that we still support a club that is in the slums? are we gonna jump ships? everyone is laughing at the fact that LFC is in deep shit, can't deny that can we?

Screw it boys, come what may, the most important fact is whether or not you still feel like being one with the club you supported. Matters little that Rafa may stay or go, or the owners still being asses, or if our players all leave... because we can't do shit about it.

What we can do is "put on that jersey and watch the game" and on a side note, we are actually for the first time in many seasons - RIDING THE FARKING STORM smile.gif
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Well on Rafa, i must say, im quite happy the way it went at Lille, its just matter of time they come click together again after the scrappy injuries..a win against Pompey followed by win against Lille, and possibly similar score against on-red-hot-form Mancs..and points against Sunderland, regardless what happens to the rest of the contenders for the 4th place.

Rafa has to come up with something to keep up the game and win the coming 3 matches , which is crucial to decide where we stand during end of March..

I'd never gave up, and i will never..C'mon !

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Fun Fact : Out of all the 86 Silverwares that Liverpool won posted on the first page, only 14 were won from year 2000 and above. Which makes it 16.28% chance of winning a silverware after year 2000 based on the statistics.

Just want you fans to know what are the chances of winning anything brows.gif

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article from goal.com

"It's too soon to talk, I sincerely believe we will finish fourth but for me qualifying for the Champions League isn't so important. What's really important is that the club makes a big effort in bringing in important players that exceed the quality of what we have," he told Spanish publication AS. - "fernando torres"

just like my thought! tongue.gif

read the rest here!
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QUOTE(DimSumGuy @ Mar 13 2010, 04:01 PM)
Fun Fact : Out of all the 86 Silverwares that Liverpool won posted on the first page, only 14 were won from year 2000 and above. Which makes it 16.28% chance of winning a silverware after year 2000 based on the statistics.

Just want you fans to know what are the chances of winning anything brows.gif
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Just comes to show that we aren't all in it for glory are we? I'm proud to say that I don't support a winning team then.

In response to REDSHAUN, I've never been afraid to show my allegiance but I must say it is a little annoying to have mancs buzzing around my ear. They seem to be everywhere and never feel shy to take the piss when they know I'm a Liverpool fan. When I meet a manc for the first time, it's the same thing all the time. "Oh Liverpool fan ah?", followed by a shy girly grin.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 13 2010, 07:21 PM)
Just comes to show that we aren't all in it for glory are we? I'm proud to say that I don't support a winning team then.

In response to REDSHAUN, I've never been afraid to show my allegiance but I must say it is a little annoying to have mancs buzzing around my ear. They seem to be everywhere and never feel shy to take the piss when they know I'm a Liverpool fan. When I meet a manc for the first time, it's the same thing all the time. "Oh Liverpool fan ah?", followed by a shy girly grin.
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what;s the stadium capacity of Anfield? perhaps the TS can post it up there in the first post.
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Rafa Benitez is the man to get the job done. One must think the good deed he has done before bashing him just because The Kop poor performance 2009-2010 campaign. But first the player must motivated themselves. Reina, Johnson, Insua, Skrtel, Carragher, Kuyt, Gerrard, Aquilani, Mascherano, Riera, Benayoun, Maxi, Torres all top class player who represent their country. So there are no inferior player at the squad.

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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Mar 13 2010, 09:08 PM)
Rafa Benitez is the man to get the job done. One must think the good deed he has done before bashing him just because The Kop poor performance 2009-2010 campaign. But first the player must motivated themselves. Reina, Johnson, Insua, Skrtel, Carragher, Kuyt, Gerrard, Aquilani, Mascherano, Riera, Benayoun, Maxi, Torres all top class player who represent their country. So there are no inferior player at the squad.
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Liverpool keeping close eye on McLeish contract talks

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article from goal.com

"It's too soon to talk, I sincerely believe we will finish fourth but for me qualifying for the Champions League isn't so important. What's really important is that the club makes a big effort in bringing in important players that exceed the quality of what we have," he told Spanish publication AS. - "fernando torres"

just like my thought!  tongue.gif

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he's a good lad and i dont believe he'll jump ship if liverpool didn't qualify for CL.. at least not next season.

Quote from soccernet.. with added crap:
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Link: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...england&cc=4716


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Liverpool keeping close eye on McLeish contract talks

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liver...icle353255.html
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 13 2010, 07:38 PM)
Precisely just that.
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Liverpool keeping close eye on McLeish contract talks

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Liver...icle353255.html
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Link: http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...england&cc=4716


usually news from soccernet was a reliable one ...


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Mcleish??

huh?? damn.

I wouldn't mind the likes of Pellegrini or Mourinho (if Rafa leaves). But McLeish?? Pls.

Well he would be worshiped by the UK media, since he's British and all.
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Debunking Liverpool FC myths: Rick Parry signed Robbie Keane
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mcleish is a british version of rafa so i dont see any point of getting him..
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When you're at your lowest, there's no where else to go but up. Cheer up guys, next season Liverpool will raise again.
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INTER COACH'S FUTURE IN DOUBT
Mourinho puts clubs on red alert

Jose Mourinho could be at the centre of an incredible managerial merry go round which would see some of the biggest names and largest clubs switching their bosses, if he leaves Inter Milan this summer.

Mourinho has emerged as the number one target for Spanish giants Real Madrid, who crashed out of the Champions League last week, and the "Special One" has a buy-out clause of £5.5 million written into his current contract, which expires in 2012.

Premier League clubs Liverpool and Manchester City are also monitoring Mourinho's situation and an number of football insiders have tipped the Portuguese to make a return to England.

Mourinho was hired by Inter to win the Champions League, and despite denials to the contrary, the likelihood of his imminent departure will be triggered if he fails to get past Chelsea on Tuesday at Stamford Bridge.

The Anfield future of Rafael Benitez has once again been thrown into doubt with the Spaniard becoming overly frustrated with the club's American owners, Tom Hicks and George Gillett, and his support in the boardroom continues to diminish.

The Sunday newspapers report that the Reds could be the subject of a £100 million investment bid from the New York-based Rhone Group and if the deal goes through the equity company would be eager for a new manager to give a fresh direction to the stagnating club.

However, if Mourinho were to return the Premier League his most likely destination would be Manchester City, where almost limitless funds are in place to build a formidable side.

Soccernet recently revealed that Mancini is being touted as the next Italy coach, with the Italian federation anxious to name their new boss pre-World Cup to avoid all the diversions and distractions about the identity of Marcello Lippi's successor after the tournament in South Africa.

And if City fail to make it into the top four this term, Mancini will be axed, with a contract that has a break point in the summer to be reviewed depending on the teams Champions league position.

As Soccernet has again lead the way, Bordeaux boss Laurent Blanc has already been sounded out to succeed Mourinho at Inter.

At Anfield, the two front runners are Martin O'Neill and Alex McLeish, with the Birmingham boss the cheap option as he has a relatively small £1 million buy out clause, while O'Neill would be much more expensive to prise away from Aston Villa.

Mourinho's first choice would be Manchester United, but with no sign of Sir Alex Ferguson's retirement, he would then go for Liverpool, providing they had new funding, but wouldn't say no to becoming by far the worlds No 1 paid coach at Manchester City

sos : soccernet

well, the chances still there...
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If Liverpool is not able to spend big in transfer market, I don't think Mourinho will come.

Liverpool is at the last in the pecking order of his choice, for current situation.

My view though.
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i feel sad that we have that poll in this thread :/
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i feel sad that we have that poll in this thread :/
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle7061092.ece

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From the last paragraph.. Id rather not qualify to the next CL if this means we could get rid of that greedy duo.. Then we rebuild from there
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Questioning the manager is not being unfaithful to the club.
Btw, when will people stop putting all the blame on the yanks? They did pay 20 million for a lump of wood that adorns our bench. If anything, the manager and the squad are the ones who need to look at themselves!
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Questioning the manager is not being unfaithful to the club.
Btw, when will people stop putting all the blame on the yanks? They did pay 20 million for a lump of wood that adorns our bench. If anything, the manager and the squad are the ones who need to look at themselves!
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i vote rafa to walk on to real madrid......


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QUOTE(madmoz @ Mar 14 2010, 09:46 PM)
Questioning the manager is not being unfaithful to the club.
Btw, when will people stop putting all the blame on the yanks? They did pay 20 million for a lump of wood that adorns our bench. If anything, the manager and the squad are the ones who need to look at themselves!
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sure can question one's position..but to have such formal poll at the front of an official thread..doesnt sounds right..

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the owner should go away.....nothing to shout about......new stadium ? new player ? its like rakyat didahulukan,janji dikotakan........wtf ?


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we already got players that play for their Nation, we got 20M player in the bench, we got promises youngster, we got a great fans....he's not managing Wigan or Portsmourt...he's managing Liverpool, if he can bring us the title, he will be great....

'He managed to get his team to be a winner with limited budget' - does it sounds good? Does Morinho like the challenge?

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QUOTE(madmoz @ Mar 14 2010, 09:46 PM)
Questioning the manager is not being unfaithful to the club.
Btw, when will people stop putting all the blame on the yanks? They did pay 20 million for a lump of wood that adorns our bench. If anything, the manager and the squad are the ones who need to look at themselves!
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They DID NOT pay for glass boy.. they use LFC money (some from alonso's sale) They DID NOT deliver what they have promised.. the obvious one is the new stadium.

so YANKS OUT!
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Liverpool 'in investment talks with US group'

Liverpool have received a £118.5m investment bid from private equity firm Rhone Group, according to reports.

American co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett are obliged to reduce the club's £237m debt with Royal Bank of Scotland by £100m by this summer.

The deal would make the New York-based group the largest shareholder with 40%, Hicks and Gillett each falling to 30%.

The Press Association report added that the bid, tabled on Saturday, has yet to be discussed at board level.

If a bid were to materialise it would be the first positive result of Anfield chief executive Christian Purslow's search for new investors ahead of the bank deadline.

Money needs to go to paying debt and the stadium before it goes to the manager

Aside from slashing the club's debt in half, the group's funds would also improve the club's credit-worthiness, which in turn would make Liverpool more attractive for further outside investment.

Hicks and Gillett took control of Liverpool in February 2007, each taking a 50% stake.

However, their reign has proven unpopular with Reds fans, with the debt burden they have placed on the club and the delayed construction of the proposed new stadium at Stanley Park coming in for particular criticism.

Founded in 1997, the Rhone Group is owned and managed by financiers Robert Agostinelli and Steven Langman.

The company describes itself as "one of the world's leading mid-market private equity firms", and has its headquarters in New York with other offices in London and Paris.

WE'RE GETTING ANOTHER 2 MORE CLOWNS

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No, the yanks put 20mil british pounds from Liverpool accounts and not from their own pocket for Rafa to put a player on the bench.. Hence all three must leave
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They DID NOT pay for glass boy.. they use LFC money (some from alonso's sale) They DID NOT deliver what they have promised.. the obvious one is the new stadium.

so YANKS OUT!
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Not saying that the owners are faultless - they are shrewd b@st@rdly businessmen, but despite the romantic notions of 'you never walk alone', people's club etc, Liverpool FC currently belong to them two lying c*nts, and it is up to them to do whatever they want with her.
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QUOTE(Angel of Deth @ Mar 13 2010, 09:08 PM)
Rafa Benitez is the man to get the job done. One must think the good deed he has done before bashing him just because The Kop poor performance 2009-2010 campaign. But first the player must motivated themselves. Reina, Johnson, Insua, Skrtel, Carragher, Kuyt, Gerrard, Aquilani, Mascherano, Riera, Benayoun, Maxi, Torres all top class player who represent their country. So there are no inferior player at the squad.
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Mate, I think you have to give some of us credit here. It isn't just now that we are questioning his pedigree. I myself have been doing so for the past 2 seasons as I imagine some of the other posters have been.

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It isn't just about our current campaign. What I posted above 2 seasons back may be outdated but I think it's still relevant.

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mcleish is a british version of rafa so i dont see any point of getting him..
Unlike Rafa however, I don't see him bringing attracting a host of big name players like Fernando Torres. Scotland haven't qualified for the World Cup since 1990, and are about to have their Champions League spots reduced from 2 to 1 such is inferiority of their league. Then again, we were originally a team of Scots smile.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 15 2010, 09:57 AM)
Mate, I think you have to give some of us credit here. It isn't just now that we are questioning his pedigree. I myself have been doing so for the past 2 seasons as I imagine some of the other posters have been.

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Duke is right. I think past 1-2 seasons, the main debate was Rafa is good for a 90 minutes tactical battle and hence a good cup manager. Major doubt was on his ability to sustain a season long charge to win the title. Problem is this season, even cup runs seems to have disappeared into thin air...

Of course, there is always that magical 2nd half of last season....not only results were coming....our football was good- disciplined, compact and yet full of attacking intent....But that is also a very difficult topic to bring up here because it will inevitably be linked to Alonso....which will then bring us to Rafa's management style..and then open up another long debate here....

There was a small debate here about King Kenny coming in and steadying the ship until a good manager is found (lets not rush into Mcleish or anyone that is available)...

Personally, i would like to give Mourinho a chance, for 2 reasons. Players respond to his management (our current big names, mid names and young players need that it seems). Secondly, his track record of titles speaks volume.
But he must be willing to come with limited budget i guess...and that i aint sure. of maybe for the pride of restoring a slumbering giant + proving his supremacy over SAF, AW and even Abrahamovich!

But then, the slightest idea of wanting Jose to come can invite missiles and abuse hurled at you nowadays.. tongue.gif

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Personally, i would like to give Mourinho a chance, for 2 reasons.  Players respond to his management (our current big names, mid names and young players need that it seems).  Secondly, his track record of titles speaks volume. 
But he must be willing to come with limited budget i guess...and that i aint sure.  of maybe for the pride of restoring a slumbering giant + proving his supremacy over SAF, AW and even Abrahamovich!

But then, the slightest idea of wanting Jose to come can invite missiles and abuse hurled at you nowadays.. tongue.gif
I can see merits in Mourinho. He is someone you love to have on your side, and absolutely hate as a nemesis. What I do like about him is he is a good man manager, and he has a winning attitude.

On the flipside, I do think his ego will make him believe that he is bigger than the club. I mean he is the "special one". He may not respect the club's tradition and culture.
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I can see merits in Mourinho. He is someone you love to have on your side, and absolutely hate as a nemesis. What I do like about him is he is a good man manager, and he has a winning attitude.

On the flipside, I do think his ego will make him believe that he is bigger than the club. I mean he is the "special one". He may not respect the club's tradition and culture.
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Agreed, although the Kop has been known to humble even the most arrogant of characters. But if anyone's coming, it'll probably be someone like alex mcleish or the best, martin o'neil. Which top flight manager would consider to takeover a club in such a crisis?
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I'm with Duke on this one. He knows my stand on Rafa u-turned the moment Peter Crouch didn't start against AC Milan in 2007 UCL Final. Since then i've been firmed on my belief that he will not win us the Premiership as long as he does not change his approach to the English game. He nearly prove me wrong last season, but this season is another different story all together. The situation with the owners and clowns didn't help his cause, but that alone cannot be use as the reason for our dismal form. When things don't go according to plan, those at the helm needs to stand up and be counted. The players also need some bollocking.

Alex McLeish - wrong to get him if the only reason we're interested is as reported - cheap get out clause.
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you want benitez to go or no ? hehehe.
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 15 2010, 10:39 AM)
I can see merits in Mourinho. He is someone you love to have on your side, and absolutely hate as a nemesis. What I do like about him is he is a good man manager, and he has a winning attitude.

On the flipside, I do think his ego will make him believe that he is bigger than the club. I mean he is the "special one". He may not respect the club's tradition and culture.
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if we do go for Mourinho, i'll be happy to take a winning the title and he leaving the club on a sour note ( as he has tendency to do...). i just want 19th!
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QUOTE(nyumnyum2k @ Mar 15 2010, 01:27 PM)
duke,

you want benitez to go or no ? hehehe.
I am reluctant of course. I mean it isn't in our nature to fire managers but in the end, the survival of the club matters most and what's disturbing is that we seem to be on a downward spiral. It's about damage control at this point so if we don't finish fourth or win the Europa League, then yeah, it's time for Rafa to step aside. I bear no animosity towards him. He won us the biggest trophy in my time and I will always remeber the magic that was Istanbul but we cannot let our sentiments cloud our judgement here.
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many of us really want to see Rafa do well. The unfair treatment he received from the press, his willingness to work hard for the club....

but if the remaining matches of season still see Liverpool losing and drawing most of matches..its hard to remain optimistic for 2010-2011...but then..maybe its a blessing! everytime we start a new season thinking `This is our year', we fall flat on our faces...perhaps we should start a season with very little to expect eh?
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if we do go for Mourinho, i'll be happy to take a winning the title and he leaving the club on a sour note ( as he has tendency to do...).  i just want 19th!
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Not to forget 16M had to pay to RAFA if liverpool were to sack him...
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Daniel Agger: I won't walk away

Daniel Agger will not consider leaving Liverpool this summer, despite suggestions over the weekend that Fernando Torres' long-term future is in doubt due to the club's current predicament.

Torres claimed in an interview in Spain on Saturday that Liverpool need to recruit "four or five" world-class players in the summer having fallen far off the title pace and been forced into a prolonged battle to claim the fourth Champions League spot ahead of Tottenham, Manchester City and Aston Villa.

The Spanish striker also said it was "too soon" to talk about his long-term future, leading many to conclude that he will consider other options if Liverpool fail to show adequate progress.

But Agger is certainly not contemplating leaving Anfield and the Danish defender is keen to make amends for what has been a terrible season for the Merseysiders under Rafael Benitez this season.

"I wouldn't walk away. I'd fight to put it right next year because I'm not a quitter," Agger said. "I've been close to winning trophies, but I still don't have any. That's a big disappointment because that's the reason I came to Liverpool."

Liverpool are four points behind fourth-placed Tottenham and two behind Manchester City, who have a game in hand. The Reds welcome Portsmouth to Fratton Park on Monday night and Agger is in no doubt as to the importance of the game with Champions League participation at stake.

"We can't slip up any more because it's getting to the end of the season and we know we need more points," Agger said. "I can't imagine not being in the Champions League. That's the tournament we all want to be in. But it's our own fault where we are now and we have to get out of it.

"The fans have a right to expect Liverpool to be in the top four. A big club like Liverpool should be in there every year, but as we know football doesn't always work like that.

"The pressure of that shouldn't come into it. When you come to a club like this there will always be pressure to be successful. Maybe we'll have to start to imagine not being in the top four. But for as long as we have a chance we have to keep believing.

"If you play at a football club like Liverpool you always need to take responsibility, no matter who you are. You do that on and off the pitch, but you must definitely do it in the games."


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certainly Agger, certainly....
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maybe, Molinho takes over fr Sir Alex in MU and SAF comes to Anfield to replace Rafa laugh.gif

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maybe, Molinho takes over fr Sir Alex in MU and SAF comes to Anfield to replace Rafa laugh.gif

u never knoe shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 15 2010, 08:53 PM)
maybe, Molinho takes over fr Sir Alex in MU and SAF comes to Anfield to replace Rafa laugh.gif

u never knoe shakehead.gif  shakehead.gif
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That would be golden. MASS suicides in United's camp. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 13 2010, 07:21 PM)
Just comes to show that we aren't all in it for glory are we? I'm proud to say that I don't support a winning team then.

In response to REDSHAUN, I've never been afraid to show my allegiance but I must say it is a little annoying to have mancs buzzing around my ear. They seem to be everywhere and never feel shy to take the piss when they know I'm a Liverpool fan. When I meet a manc for the first time, it's the same thing all the time. "Oh Liverpool fan ah?", followed by a shy girly grin.
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tonite game wat time ?
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QUOTE(normeck @ Mar 14 2010, 11:38 PM)
we already got players that play for their Nation, we got 20M player in the bench, we got promises youngster, we got a great fans....he's not managing Wigan or Portsmourt...he's managing Liverpool, if he can bring us the title, he will be great....

'He managed to get his team to be a winner with limited budget' - does it sounds good? Does Morinho like the challenge?

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Anywhere..i'm with u bro..think that would b a great challenge for Morinho..
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Well, you and him have something in common then.
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playing in anfield i really expect us to beat pompey despite all our problems.. i hope to see aquilani start but then again its rafa and it should be lucas and masch again rclxub.gif

on a brigther note, hope this is true.. more investment and good work by purslow again hopefully

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ment-offer.html
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QUOTE(-nana- @ Mar 16 2010, 12:23 AM)
playing in anfield i really expect us to beat pompey despite all our problems.. i hope to see aquilani start but then again its rafa and it should be lucas and masch again  rclxub.gif

on a brigther note, hope this is true.. more investment and good work by purslow again hopefully

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...ment-offer.html
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Well, you and him have something in common then.
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Alberto Aquilani starts for Liverpool against Portsmouth this evening

Maxi Rodriguez also comes in, while Lucas and Dirk Kuyt make way.

The Reds side in full is: Reina, Insua, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Mascherano, Aquilani, Gerrard, Babel, Rodriguez, Torres. Subs: Cavalieri, Kyrgiakos, Ngog, Benayoun, Kuyt, Lucas, Kelly.
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QUOTE(Clairvoyant @ Mar 16 2010, 03:13 AM)
Alberto Aquilani starts for Liverpool against Portsmouth this evening

Maxi Rodriguez also comes in, while Lucas and Dirk Kuyt make way.

The Reds side in full is: Reina, Insua, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Mascherano, Aquilani, Gerrard, Babel, Rodriguez, Torres. Subs: Cavalieri, Kyrgiakos, Ngog, Benayoun, Kuyt, Lucas, Kelly.
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QUOTE(Clairvoyant @ Mar 16 2010, 03:13 AM)
Alberto Aquilani starts for Liverpool against Portsmouth this evening

Maxi Rodriguez also comes in, while Lucas and Dirk Kuyt make way.

The Reds side in full is: Reina, Insua, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Mascherano, Aquilani, Gerrard, Babel, Rodriguez, Torres. Subs: Cavalieri, Kyrgiakos, Ngog, Benayoun, Kuyt, Lucas, Kelly.
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An important game for both sides, this should be an interesting encounter.. Might watch this one..
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hmm...
rafa dropped his 2 favourite-anak-emas-player huh ??
with aqua and johnson starting , i can smell victory for today ..
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finally i can watch my team win in HD cause dirkula and lucas is not playing
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Added on March 16, 2010, 4:28 amTorres. Gerrard. Maxi. Wtf.

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babel~
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Babel. Wtf. This is the liverpool i had been follow for 11years.


Added on March 16, 2010, 4:34 amWtf aquilani. Wad liverpool is this wei?

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QUOTE(mamet @ Mar 16 2010, 03:27 AM)
hmm...
rafa dropped his 2 favourite-anak-emas-player huh ??
with aqua and johnson starting , i can smell victory for today ..
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Aquilani!!!

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aquilani score 1st liverpool goal!!!!
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3 goal for 3 minute..
tis is our strongest first eleven is it?
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It is 3 goals in 6 minutes
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now rafa knoes why we dun like to start wif lucas and dirkula
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babel play really well in this game , didnt show his selfishness and I think Gerrard waste alot of chances ,
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Finger cross to retain this kind of selection on the next game & beyond..!!! rclxms.gif

What a different it make when Lucas not on the field..!!! thumbup.gif

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Kelly! rclxm9.gif


Added on March 16, 2010, 5:31 amIn Kelly
Out Glen

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no more hatrick for fernando

is time to sleep =) good job lfc and YNWA
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Aquilani did a great control to midfield and torres. 1 touch. Magnet passing. He's a talented player.
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4-1


Added on March 16, 2010, 5:57 amFT..final 4-1

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leaked an unnecessary goal, the only bad thing to take away from this game.
gerrard has to be careful of silly fouls and nearly got himself a red, and then missing 3 important games.
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QUOTE(bomberkenny @ Mar 16 2010, 05:58 AM)
leaked an unnecessary goal, the only bad thing to take away from this game.
gerrard has to be careful of silly fouls and nearly got himself a red, and then missing 3 important games.
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that 1st half display is what we've been missing all season..and that belhadj fella is not bad at all..gud option if rafa dont want to renew aurelio contract


Added on March 16, 2010, 7:14 am
QUOTE(RyanHo @ Mar 16 2010, 05:44 AM)
Aquilani did a great control to midfield and torres. 1 touch. Magnet passing. He's a talented player.
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before that a 1-2 with gerrard at the edge of pompey penalty area...nearly got us a goal!...aquaman suits short intricate pass..good to have if our opponents were playing defensively notworthy.gif


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now rafa knoes why we dun like to start wif lucas and dirkula
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Fantastic match.Aqua's long passes were superb.Assisted Torres the last and scored on himself. A good boast for him.

Anyway, Torres involved in all 4 goals.Surprising! biggrin.gif
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kudos for aqua and babel....solid and skillful performance. but unfortunately...they both will be benched for d next 2 games sad.gif. sorry...but that's d way rafa does things.
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Hope same performance from Aqua for Man Utd match..


Added on March 16, 2010, 8:07 amAlberto Aquilani - 9 - Unlucky with a fine volley on the run early on, but grabbed his first goal for the club with a fine left-foot finish. Was instrumental in all Liverpool's best attacks, and created Torres' second with a brilliant pass.

Fernando Torres - 9 - Back on the scoresheet with a cool finish on 26 minutes, and then created Babel's a couple of minutes later. His back-heel opened up Pompey for Aquilani to score soon after, and he clattered the post in a frantic end to the first half. Grabbed a second after the break with a fine finish, and was replaced by Ngog to rapturous applause.


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QUOTE(rendude @ Mar 16 2010, 07:51 AM)
kudos for aqua and babel....solid and skillful performance.  but unfortunately...they both will be benched for d next 2 games sad.gif. sorry...but that's d way rafa does things.
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This is the first time in a long time i've seen Liverpool play free flowing football like this. Those passes from Aqua was Alonso-esque. Did he regain his fitness just in the nick of time or its all too late?
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i want to see the highlights.. can someone post it here or give me the link? biggrin.gif
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http://www.matchhighlight.com/premier-leag...-vs-portsmouth/

Full match available as well
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thank god rafa is a manager not you...by the time we play m.u at O.T,our players will be dead tired for playin 3 games in a row for 1 week! biggrin.gif
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and rafa already rested benayoun and kuyt ...
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Its a great win over a relegating team. But i just voted no, simply because judgement on him doesnt rely on one single game. Hope he can prove me wrong smile.gif
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QUOTE(looprevil @ Mar 16 2010, 09:16 AM)
Its a great win over a relegating team. But i just voted no, simply because judgement on him doesnt rely on one single game. Hope he can prove me wrong smile.gif
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hmm.. we have the same avatar eh? laugh.gif
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Why does it take 3 matches in a week for Rafa to actually bench Kuyt/Lucas and play Aquilani? Only caught 2 minutes of the highlights video before going to work and unsurprisingly we were playing free-flowing football. Suddenly, Gerrard, Torres and Babel are more dangerous. And brilliant goal from Aquilani too, absolutely love the expression on his face. If that isn't a big "pick me" wake up call for Rafa, I don't know what is.

The United game I don't mind having Lucas and Kuyt back in the team but if we're gonna progress in Europa, we need to see a similarly adventurous lineup, with Aquilani in it. And we have Benayoun, Riera, Babel, Maxi and El Zhar all lining up to play, there should be no excuse.
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i miss this game!!! stupid eyes! feel sleepy after wake up at 3 am....
well congratz for the winning...like zep says..why it take up to 3 game, and rafa can make a good winning team....

this game doesnt count for this season that we have now...but im enjoyed this win...watching the highlights now...
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51 pts at last! Unfortunately a Europa place cannot be guaranteed yet because Birmingham and Everton are chasing/playing hard.

As for a CL place, we can only hope - even that is not in our hands any more because we 'threw' it away some weeks back. We have to rely on Spurs, City and Villa to slip up badly - isn't that pathetic? - and that we don't!

The pathetic coach has rested Lucas and Kuyt for the Pompey game. Aqua and Babel will probably make way for them. Let's just hope Lille won't tear these two (especially Lucas) to shreds on Thursday night and dump us out of Europa!

Happy/Elated? No. Just relieved ..
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i think the last time i saw this type of football in this red jersey, it was last year..damn it has been so long..i was very happy in those days :/
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finally Liverpool manage to win big... thumbup.gif

whoever missed the match, view all the goals here:
http://www.goalvideo.net/england/premier-l...4-1-portsmouth/
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Anyway, Torres involved in all 4 goals.Surprising! biggrin.gif
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I'm glad with the result. laugh.gif
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Finally a performance to be proud of, even though it ios against a relegation threatened, bankrupt team laugh.gif

It has been a far too long since our players actually had a gameplan and were able to string two passes together.

Any coincidence that our best performance in many months came with Lucas and Kuyt out of the team? Aqua did very well as well, and didn't get injured either nod.gif
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QUOTE(Ken @ Mar 16 2010, 09:13 AM)
and rafa already rested benayoun and kuyt ...
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im wondering...why Rafa dont want this type of game when facing others team? Masch alone enough to stop the attacking from opponent...we got 4 more midfielder to to help masch to defend....dah nak last2 baru nak perform...grrrrr!!!
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no matter how good aquilani play,rafa will choose lucas to play this sunday..trust me..
if only aquilani can be more quick to close down opponent,then there's no more reason for rafa to use lucas regularly..
but against team lower ranking like porstmouth,rafa shud stay like his line up yesterday..
with kuyt on the field,he really kill the creativity of liverpool game..
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QUOTE(khairil_kaka @ Mar 16 2010, 01:14 PM)
no matter how good aquilani play,rafa will choose lucas to play this sunday..trust me..
if only aquilani can be more quick to close down opponent,then there's no more reason for rafa to use lucas regularly..
but against team lower ranking like porstmouth,rafa shud stay like his line up yesterday..
with kuyt on the field,he really kill the creativity of liverpool game..
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See... if it's the United match, I really don't mind both being in the team sheet. Lucas has done well against Utd in the past (Although this time they have Fletcher back) and Kuyt's workrate will be useful to stiffle their buildup. Either way, I hope that Aqua gets another start in either of the next matches.

But definitely agree with you on lower ranking teams, we have a team of underutilized players.

Anyway, will there be a repeat on Astro any time soon? Tonight maybe? Wanna watch the match.
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ynwa...good game last nite,
would like to know too whether did astro repeat all the league match played on saturday and sunday??
or just a selected match? dunno how to check la tongue.gif

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last night game was good after so many games playing like shit. long ball huff were kept at minimal. passing was flowing. granted that it was only pompey but it was a moral boost for the players. i really hope rafa will stick with the lineup/formation but everyone knows he wont.
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Mar 16 2010, 02:21 PM)
last night game was good after so many games playing like shit. long ball huff were kept at minimal. passing was flowing. granted that it was only pompey but it was a moral boost for the players. i really hope rafa will stick with the lineup/formation but everyone knows he wont.
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it was because we were playing in anfield and babel and aquilani was playing. they were moving about making space albeit against pompey. no disrespect, but the exact same thing last year, we didnt play a cautious style of football where we all know what rafa is about.. and we flourish again.
i expect aqua to start again against lille because we are chasing the game no protecting the lead..while lucas n kuyt should start against manu unless rafa suprise us. lets just wait and see. wink.gif
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i think gerrard purposedly letting the ball go so that aqua can have a shot..
now EAT THAT RAFA!!

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I like the way aquilani tends to drift to attacking positions which may possibly open up space for Gerrard and Torres to do their thing.

RAFA PLZ PLAY AQUILANI MOARRRR
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Ryan Babel have a very good match today morning , I think he is starting to prove himself , no selfish and always drop down to help defense..YNWA Ryan notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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i am sure the Aquaman praises are drowning the forum.but i am happy..at least we have someone who's passing is not just about making sure the ball reach the target but allow the target man more time to make his move..

Anyway, not another Mourinho for Liverpool campaign but dont you just love this fella's arrogance?

``On the differing paths taken by Mourinho and Chelsea since they parted ways in September 2007, he said: "I keep winning important things. They keep winning something.''

hahahah....
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QUOTE(rendude @ Mar 16 2010, 07:51 AM)
kudos for aqua and babel....solid and skillful performance.  but unfortunately...they both will be benched for d next 2 games sad.gif. sorry...but that's d way rafa does things.
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QUOTE(leaF @ Mar 16 2010, 06:31 PM)
Ryan Babel have a very good match today morning , I think he is starting to prove himself , no selfish and always drop down to help defense..YNWA Ryan  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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Btw, did any1 noticed that Gerrard 'elbowed' Portsmouth captain? sweat.gif

Luckily the ref. didn't take any action..could easily been a red card i thought..

But again..who cares..! whistling.gif Haha..
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QUOTE(nando @ Mar 16 2010, 08:32 PM)
i am sure the Aquaman praises are drowning the forum.but i am happy..at least we have someone who's passing is not just about making sure the ball reach the target but allow the target man more time to make his move..

Anyway, not another Mourinho for Liverpool campaign but dont you just love this fella's arrogance?

``On the differing paths taken by Mourinho and Chelsea since they parted ways in September 2007, he said: "I keep winning important things. They keep winning something.''

hahahah....
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There was an another part .. He is so selamba eat biscuit like nothing happened. As if no pressure. Oh rite ..

"I am unbeatable at Stamford Bridge, everybody knows that."

To be honest, I miss the guy.
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hi guys, is there any website that can download last nite whole match game?
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@CrossFirE: here is link of last nite match highlight n full match vids.

http://www.lfc.su/?q=aggregator/categories/2

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QUOTE(JonC @ Mar 16 2010, 12:52 AM)
Mate you cracked me up lah!  rclxms.gif  laugh.gif  thumbup.gif

Time to go to bed, dun think i'll get up to watch the match.
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What, with an innocent comment like that? whistling.gif

Anyway, you missed a good match although I don't blame you for the preconception. We have been shite for the most part of the season and even after last night I'm not kidding myself about our chances for the last CL spot.
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Currently watching the repeat on ESPN HD. thumbup.gif

Anyway Aquaman's compilation against Pompey:
http://www.footylounge.com/films//milankak..._bd4165f64.html

Aquaman & Reina interview:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id...england&cc=4716


Added on March 16, 2010, 11:47 pmSome 2cent worth of mine. Confident footballing display today by the players and hardly surprising as that is what the likes of Torres, Maxi, Babel, Gerrard, Aqua, Johnson & Insua capable of. I've been banging on the pass and move drum since January but back then we didn't have the personnel then. Still, it took 3 matches in a week for Rafa to be a little more adventurous and it paid off. And Aqua's expression says is all that he has been extremely frustrated. Whatever failings we had this season, Rafa needs to take a big slice of the blame cake.

Having that said, some positive thoughts.

Maxi was brilliant. He loves Torres, doesn't he? Always available for a pass and links up with Aqua, Torres and Johnson well. The sublime pass to Johnson before the 2nd goal was absolute peach. Basically, he is everything Kuyt is not, attacking-wise. Babel on the other hand does fairly decent although still prone to run straight into defenders. He is still a type of player that excels when the team plays well and doesn't when the team is dire. Credit where it's due, both played very well and Torres enjoyed the service he got.

Gerrard was much better last night but still far from what he's capable of. If you notice, most of our attacks last night stopped at Gerrard and if I may say, he was the weakest link amongst our front 4.

Aquilani... easily motm. What Lucas does once in a blue moon in a season, Aquilani did it in a night- Disguised pass, perfectly-weighted through pass, lob pass, getting forward and even scoring a goal. His performance was really promising and if he could maintain that level of brilliance, the 18m is well worth it. Do not want to make a premature statement, but he is going to be a fan's favourite if he goes on like this. And if Rafa lets him, of course.

Anyway, it's only a win and after countless false dawns, it's better not to hope too much. That said, it does give me confidence for the Lille and United matches.

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Aqua's not ready for first team football. And as such he is always benched... all because he refuses to come out and say "Gerrard thought me to stay on my feet and not dive cause diving is unethical laugh.gif"
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maxi is improving, he is finding his touch with torres around.. just like ol times..
aqua..his expression is priceless.. also loved the way the fans just erupted with joy seeing that goal..
torres, need we say more.. too bad hes out for quite a long time, if not maybe he is up there with rooney and drogba..
babel also linking with torres nicely, a thing we have been waiting for a long long time..
is there anything happening behind the scene? seems like there is a positive mood for the portsmouth game..
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JOSE does it again

beat Chelsea wif limited talents , juz like wat he done wif Porto to win the CL

if he comes to Liverpool, he surely will be a great asset. unlike rafa.he hav talents but his tactics suks........using Lucas and Kuyt too much doh.gif

giv Pacheco, Nabil and Kelly more chances Rafa vmad.gif
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Babel + Aquilani + Torres = Bounce.

What a performance from AA. Im sure Xabi would've proud of AA's display.
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Anyone watch the interview with Mourinho? Went something like this...

"Since I left Chelsea I won special things. Chelsea have won... some things mmm... the FA Cup?". Classic.
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QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 17 2010, 10:41 AM)
JOSE does it again

beat Chelsea wif limited talents , juz like wat he done wif Porto to win the CL

if he comes to Liverpool, he surely will be a great asset. unlike rafa.he hav talents but his tactics suks........using Lucas and Kuyt too much doh.gif

giv Pacheco, Nabil and Kelly more chances Rafa vmad.gif
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QUOTE(normeck @ Mar 17 2010, 11:04 AM)
huh..Porto can win CL...does Porto need big fund to win CL? does two third of the Porto player represent their country? so..come on Mourinho!
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Oh, did I mention that he knocked Mourinho - who has a superior squad - out twice? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 17 2010, 10:41 AM)
JOSE does it again

beat Chelsea wif limited talents , juz like wat he done wif Porto to win the CL

if he comes to Liverpool, he surely will be a great asset. unlike rafa.he hav talents but his tactics suks........using Lucas and Kuyt too much doh.gif

giv Pacheco, Nabil and Kelly more chances Rafa vmad.gif
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Limited talents? Serious? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Mar 17 2010, 01:19 PM)
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Mar 17 2010, 01:14 PM)
Yeah, and by saying that you have completely forgotten that a certain manager won the CL a few years back with an inferior squad.
Oh, did I mention that he knocked Mourinho - who has a superior squad - out twice? rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Mar 17 2010, 01:24 PM)
yeap.. alot of people seems to forgot that liverpool never passed the last 16 for a very looong time before rafa took charge.
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He will only be remembered as the guy who failed to get the team passed the group stage of CL. tongue.gif tongue.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Mar 17 2010, 01:19 PM)
Limited talents? Serious? unsure.gif
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QUOTE(heizad @ Mar 17 2010, 01:22 PM)
maybe all those big names are not talented enough to him tongue.gif
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I just had to have a say in this.
Moratti is up with the rankings with Abramovich in the oil industry. Besides, he's one heck of a negotiator.
Maybe Serie A doesnt have the much exposure given in the EPL. icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Mar 17 2010, 01:19 PM)
Limited talents? Serious? unsure.gif
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if inter can consider limited talents...wonder what he think liverpool are?..no talent?? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(digilife @ Mar 17 2010, 10:41 AM)
JOSE does it again

beat Chelsea wif limited talents , juz like wat he done wif Porto to win the CL

if he comes to Liverpool, he surely will be a great asset. unlike rafa.he hav talents but his tactics suks........using Lucas and Kuyt too much doh.gif

giv Pacheco, Nabil and Kelly more chances Rafa vmad.gif
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when liverpool don give them play, then ppl kao beh kao bu say no give chance

when give them play, they don score, then kao beh kao bu say why don want play senior stronger player...




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ps: limited talent?

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QUOTE(Duke Red @ Mar 17 2010, 10:55 AM)
Anyone watch the interview with Mourinho? Went something like this...

"Since I left Chelsea I won special things. Chelsea have won... some things mmm... the FA Cup?". Classic.
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Exactly. I dont know why, but i hardly find that amusing, even if Chelsea are battling us (UTD) at the top. I think Chelsea, Liverpool (as much as I hate them) or even any club for that matter deserves respect for the dignity of its establishment at least. Jose is so full of himself that its sickening, and I know some of you in here think that he would be a fantastic replacement for Rafa, if and when the time comes, but in my opinion, a club like Liverpool and its ardent supporters wouldnt be happy to see a personality that thinks himself head and shoulders above a club and the virtues, spirit and dignity that it carries.

What Jose is, is simply a good man manager, and it may seem here and there that Rafa has lost that touch, but humility has always been key to success. Maybe not the kind where fortunes are overturned overnight, but for the long haul. Humility. That is precisely what Mourinho lacks. He may win the world cup twice over, or the CL with 5 different teams, but no one will remember him as a winner, but always as the guy who couldnt get enough of himself.
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Aquilani blow for Reds
17th Mar 2010 - Latest News

Alberto Aquilani is doubtful for Thursday night's Europa League clash with Lille, manager Rafael Benitez confirmed today.

The Italian international - who netted his first goal for the Reds in a man of the match display against Portsmouth earlier in the week - missed training at Melwood on Wednesday.

"He has a virus and is struggling with his fitness," said Benitez at Melwood earlier today.

"We have to take care of him and decide tomorrow. It will be a late decision."

Author: Paul Eaton
Tagged: alberto aquilani , aquilani


WTF???!!!..virus again??!! mad.gif
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QUOTE(leftist @ Mar 17 2010, 09:40 PM)
Aquilani blow for Reds
17th Mar 2010 - Latest News

Alberto Aquilani is doubtful for Thursday night's Europa League clash with Lille, manager Rafael Benitez confirmed today.

The Italian international - who netted his first goal for the Reds in a man of the match display against Portsmouth earlier in the week - missed training at Melwood on Wednesday.

"He has a virus and is struggling with his fitness," said Benitez at Melwood earlier today.

"We have to take care of him and decide tomorrow. It will be a late decision."

Author: Paul Eaton
Tagged: alberto aquilani , aquilani
WTF???!!!..virus again??!! mad.gif
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Youre gonna see Aquilani wearing flu mask in all his matches
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Rafa excuse not to play him tomolow

His beloved Lucas wanna play
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Rafa : Focus on Lille , not united.
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post Mar 18 2010, 12:08 AM

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To be honest guys..

Lucas should start to be worried about his place on the first team.. brows.gif

He might be thinking WHY can't he play like AA performance especially vs Portsmouth.. laugh.gif


Can't wait for the next match lol.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(Qarl @ Mar 18 2010, 12:08 AM)
To be honest guys..

Lucas should start to be worried about his place on the first team.. brows.gif

He might be thinking WHY can't he play like AA performance especially vs Portsmouth.. laugh.gif
Can't wait for the next match lol.. icon_rolleyes.gif
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i think lucas spread the virus to Aqualaini brows.gif
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Liverpool FC could face financial ruin without new owners
Mar 16 2010 by Marc Waddington, Liverpool Echo
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Liverpool wont go into financial ruin like Pompey. The BPL needs liverpool for its massive asian market value.


and now.

: Riera bising.
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Reserves reach another final!

Liverpool reserves tonight beat Wigan Athletic 2-0 with goals from Lauri Dalla Valle and Daniel Pacheco sealing the win. claiming a place in the Lancashire Senior Cup final.

The win means the reserves are unbeated in 13 matches (12 wins). Dalla Valles goal was a header from a corner. He had a quiet match, but did bring out one very good save from the Wigan goalkeeper. The second goal was a peach from Pacheco, finishing a great run with a good finish.


The team:
Peter Gulacsi, Emmanuel Mendy (Jordy Brouwer 34), Steven Irwin, Daniel Ayala, Victor Palsson, Jay Spearing (Captain), Daniel Pacheco, David Amoo, Lauri Dalla Valle (Nikola Saric 83), Damien Plessis, Alex Kacaniklic. Unused subs: Nikolaj Kohlert, Martin Hansen, Francisco Duran.



thats 2 final and a chance to become north reserve league champion..wish it was 1st team though rolleyes.gif





18 y.o dalla valle got big big potential..only his 2nd match for the reserves & already bags 2 goals! rclxms.gif
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Rafa is no longer the man the players trust. i believe we heard of this once too many


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Riera's future under a cloud after Benitez attack
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March 17, 2010

Albert Riera has indicated a desire to leave Liverpool and launched an outspoken attack on Rafael Benitez - accusing the Reds manager of failing to communicate with his players and lacking the style to manage Real Madrid.

Riera, who has started only nine league games this season, labelled Liverpool a "sinking ship" after a poor season both domestically and in Europe and has placed his future at Anfield in some jeopardy by so publicly undermining his manager with withering criticism.

The winger is contemplating joining a Russian club in an attempt to underline his claims for a place in the Spain squad ahead of the World Cup. Riera has started only one game for Liverpool since January - the 1-0 Europa League victory over Unirea Urziceni on February 18.

And with his future now a matter for real debate, Riera is likely to have deeply angered Benitez by being so open and forthright in his criticism of the man who brought him to Anfield from Espanyol in an £8 million deal in September 2008.

"He thinks he is in charge and he just turns a deaf ear to everyone else," Riera told Radio Marca. "The dialogue with the players is practically non-existent. There is a lack of tact.

"When the coach doesn't say anything to you and you are in good shape with no physical problems and training well, you have no choice but to think [the fact you are not playing] is personal.

"The team's playing badly and needs changes. If I'm doing something badly and you're my boss and you trust in me, then you would tell me what I am doing wrong and what I have to do to play. [The fact that Benitez has not said anything] is what most hurts."

Riera claims he has been the subject of interest from unnamed Russian clubs and appears keen to explore the possibility of moving to a country where the transfer window is currently open.

"Right now the only market open is the Russian one," Riera said. "I have offers from two clubs and, given my situation, that has made me reflect a lot... My objective is to go to the World Cup and for that to happen I have to play."

In a final criticism of Benitez, Riera also claimed the Liverpool boss would not be in demand should Manuel Pellegrini vacate the Real Madrid job at the end of the season. Riera said: "At Madrid they ask you to win and play lovely football. We [Liverpool] are effective, sure, but we don't play brilliant football."


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I think Riera will be released by Rafa soon, for some $$$. Rafa prefers Maxi or Benayoun over him...heck, Rafa also sometimes put Aurelio on the left wing if he is fit.
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QUOTE(kazuki85 @ Mar 18 2010, 10:52 AM)
I think Riera will be released by Rafa soon, for some $$$. Rafa prefers Maxi or Benayoun over him...heck, Rafa also sometimes put Aurelio on the left wing if he is fit.
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I WAS WONDERING WHY RAFA DONT PUT RIERA?!?! HAIZ.. RIERA MISSED SO MANY MATCHES DY. F***ING SAD.
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QUOTE(Petre @ Mar 18 2010, 10:41 AM)
Rafa is no longer the man the players trust. i believe we heard of this once too many
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Deja Vu from the Babel incident eh? But after some "talking" with Rafa, Babel seems to be working harder these days.

I feel for Riera because being being Spain No.2 left winger, how is he not good enough to even make it to the bench? Must have been puzzling that Kuyt makes it to the team week in and out but he on the other hand has to resort to waiting.

But as much as I sympathize with him, I'm equally disappointed by his decision to speak out especially on a eve of a European match. I really liked him as a player but that was very selfish and unprofessional.
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It was inevitable really. There is something about rafa and wingers that just doesn't quite click. At first it was Pennant, but back then we all said that it was cause he was not disciplined enough. It didn't help his cause too that he played like a lemon more often than not. Then it was Babel, who despite having a superb debut season, was left to rot on the bench. "Oh, he's not Spanish and couldn't get along with Rafa!", we said. And Babel turned into a lemon as well soon after.

Now, Reira's been one of our best wingers for some time now. He's Spanish. He's got bags of talent, directness, skill and height. So what's wrong now?

We've wasted the talents of Pennant (ok, ok... perhaps I'm overdoing it here), Babel and Reira. mad.gif And this is not the first time a player has come out and said the very same things about Rafa.

Rafa needs a talking to. And honestly I'd rather lose Rafa and keep Babel and Reira.
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Also, when one person speaks out against another, it could well be a personal disagreement. But when others repeatedly rant about the same person, and the complaints are of round about the same nature, some form of investigation or soul searching is in order. sad.gif

Perhaps Gerrard has problems too, but is responsible enough to keep mum. And I'm pretty sure Aqua's next in line to do a public rant... given that he is as fit as he can get (but then he falls ill doh.gif) and still doesn't start ahead of the likes of Lucas, Kuyt and Maxi.

Cliched as it may seem, but it does seem that Rafa is losing the dressing room, and the problem is that he doesn't seem to think that it is a big deal perhaps?

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I think you're exagerrating things madmoz, when things are not going well you'd expect crap like this. No manager in this world is without his/her flaws but in bad times like this, people tend to be more sensitive and scrutinize the leaders' decisions more than ever. I'm not defending Rafa, but just because everybody has the same problem against the manager, it doesn't give them the right to pour it out in the media.

In any way I do think Riera is being a little ungrateful, as it was Rafa who indirectly revived Riera's international career. Don't forget he was dropped by Aragones for the last Euro. If he wants to vent his anger and frustration, he takes it out closed doors. Period.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Mar 18 2010, 12:14 PM)
It was inevitable really. There is something about rafa and wingers that just doesn't quite click. At first it was Pennant, but back then we all said that it was cause he was not disciplined enough. It didn't help his cause too that he played like a lemon more often than not. Then it was Babel, who despite having a superb debut season, was left to rot on the bench. "Oh, he's not Spanish and couldn't get along with Rafa!", we said. And Babel turned into a lemon as well soon after.

Now, Reira's been one of our best wingers for some time now. He's Spanish. He's got bags of talent, directness, skill and height. So what's wrong now?

We've wasted the talents of Pennant (ok, ok... perhaps I'm overdoing it here), Babel and Reira. mad.gif  And this is not the first time a player has come out and said the very same things about Rafa.

Rafa needs a talking to. And honestly I'd rather lose Rafa and keep Babel and Reira.
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QUOTE(aboogee @ Mar 17 2010, 08:04 PM)
Exactly. I dont know why, but i hardly find that amusing, even if Chelsea are battling us (UTD) at the top. I think Chelsea, Liverpool (as much as I hate them) or even any club for that matter deserves respect for the dignity of its establishment at least. Jose is so full of himself that its sickening, and I know some of you in here think that he would be a fantastic replacement for Rafa, if and when the time comes, but in my opinion, a club like Liverpool and its ardent supporters wouldnt be happy to see a personality that thinks himself head and shoulders above a club and the virtues, spirit and dignity that it carries.

What Jose is, is simply a good man manager, and it may seem here and there that Rafa has lost that touch, but humility has always been key to success. Maybe not the kind where fortunes are overturned overnight, but for the long haul. Humility. That is precisely what Mourinho lacks. He may win the world cup twice over, or the CL with 5 different teams, but no one will remember him as a winner, but always as the guy who couldnt get enough of himself.
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carefull, jose has an eye for the devils seat. whistling.gif hahaa

i know jose hasnt endeared to a lot of fans outside chelsea. but given his enigma, he has want it takes to be a quality top manager.

maybe if he ever lands on the devils hot seat, maybe just maybe benitez will finally land the title. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Mar 18 2010, 12:34 PM)
I think you're exagerrating things madmoz, when things are not going well you'd expect crap like this. No manager in this world is without his/her flaws but in bad times like this, people tend to be more sensitive and scrutinize the leaders' decisions more than ever. I'm not defending Rafa, but just because everybody has the same problem against the manager, it doesn't give them the right to pour it out in the media.

In any way I do think Riera is being a little ungrateful, as it was Rafa who indirectly revived Riera's international career. Don't forget he was dropped by Aragones for the last Euro. If he wants to vent his anger and frustration, he takes it out closed doors. Period.
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I believe there is truth in these rants. And there is little doubt in my mind that Reira's tried to address this behind closed doors, but to no avail. He has after all keep pretty mum until now, and being world cup season I would say he's been very patient.

Going to the media is always wrong, but are these not warning signs that there is something wrong with rafa's management? I've repeatedly stressed that winnng papers over any cracks, but it is when the shit hits the fan that the true saviors/heroes emerge. And imho there are one too many question marks about Rafa.

I see Mourinho at Manchester City next season should they not qualify for the Champions League, or at Manchester united if a certain b@st@rdly Scot can be persuaded to go tend to his garden... therefore it is crucial that we build on what limited resources we have, which means having a manager who will make the most of our current squad.

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Mar 18 2010, 01:13 PM)
Deja Vu from the Babel incident eh? But after some "talking" with Rafa, Babel seems to be working harder these days.

I feel for Riera because being being Spain No.2 left winger, how is he not good enough to even make it to the bench? Must have been puzzling that Kuyt makes it to the team week in and out but he on the other hand has to resort to waiting.

But as much as I sympathize with him, I'm equally disappointed by his decision to speak out especially on a eve of a European match. I really liked him as a player but that was very selfish and unprofessional.
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workrate.

babel complained, complains, tweets...we all know he has some talent, he hasnt put enough to show in the past. every time when he came on as in the past, there were only sporadic glimpse, mine you it not about having playing enough to earn confidence. losing possesion cheaply too often is schoolboys error.

my assertion is probably riena is in the same shoe, (as in babel effort in workrate off field)
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believe me..when rafa is out, almost all da players will step out to criticize rafa. He is out of tactics and cant build his own team of players. Gerrard is the captain, for god's sake of cause he cant say anything bad about rafa.

rafa trully doesnt have any leadership skills. the prove is he dont talk to players as said by Reira and tats da worst of all. if u dun bond wit the players, they would b puzzled wut u wan, need or when they gona get played, wuts da reason for not playing. And these simple answers can make players relieve or satisfied, if not satisfied at least they knw da reason !.

Good leaders will motivate and talk to players. players need constant motivation! high morale, spirits and excitement dies off with time and thus its a RAFA's job to motivate them and keep them on their toes all the time!. Make them hungry for success. This is much more important than being able to provide the best tactics(which rafa doesnt have either).

This is not the first time rafa being criticise of the same subject. History repeats itself. This shows rafa doesnt change his style n thinks he's right all the time. He doesnt wana improve himself thus liverpool wont be improved either.

Last year was a fluke. When u look at da statistics, Liverpool are always chasing the 4th spot mostly. So getting 2nd place for 1 time only is fluke!.


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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Mar 18 2010, 12:50 PM)
workrate.

babel complained,  complains, tweets...we all know he has some talent, he hasnt put enough to show in the past. every time when he came on as in the past, there were only sporadic glimpse, mine you it not about having playing enough to earn confidence. losing possesion cheaply too often is schoolboys error.

my assertion is probably riena is in the same shoe, (as in babel effort in workrate off field)
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How u expect a person to play well , when he doesnt play as much as he could. training and real matches arent the same, okay?.Practice makes perfect tat is one of the reason. What i meant here is playin in matches as much as possible will improve ur play in matches.

2nd is da adrenaline and atmosphere is different in matches. So, errors can happen when ur under pressure and since not regularly playin, this pressure is psychologically effecting him and thus affecting his playin skills as a chain reaction.

why dont u tell chong wei to not to join any competition but just train until the thomas cup. He will tell u to fark off brat.

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post lfc players can still complain & pile complains about rafa. one quip, two quip doesnt tantamount to the growing assertion that rafa has lost the dressing room. [hearing hollow echo here, other then that serial twat spitter]

granted he is aloof. he has often been critiqued as not man-buddy-manager like jose. maybe reira should give rafa a hug then all things are square. whistling.gif

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Anybody seen this post in RAWK? It's a follow up interview to the previous.
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Alright, Riera was interviewed again a couple of hours ago on 'El Larguero' of Cadena Ser and I just finished translating the hole thing as close to verbatim as i could.  A little surreal, confusing and vague and but interesting nonetheless.


Host:Guillem Balague, What’s going on with Benitez and Riera who’s not been in the manager’s plans since I don’t know when?

Balague: Well he hasn’t started a game since January 26th and there are two interpretations as its usually the case in this situations.  Riera has said publicly things that he’s possibly already expressed in private conversations.  He feels it’s a personal issue.  Doesn’t know exactly what it is .  Doesn’t know why he’s not playing.  He would like for the manager to explain why he’s not in his plans but the manager is keeping a distance with the players.  And he has learned that there are a couple of Russian teams interested in him.  He could leave right now if he’s allowed to and he’s created a big mess with that intention.  So that Benitez will come out in public and say “ You’re not in my plans you can go”.  And Riera’s objective is not so much to leave Liverpool as it is to play in the World Cup.  I don’t know…he has hopes but I think in any case it would be very difficult for him to make the list.  At any rate, he will try.  He was already left out of the Euro in 2008 because he had a poor second half of the season at Espanyol then and he doesn’t want it to happen again but it is known that there is a certain distance between some players and Benitez.  It hasn’t been the best of seasons and when the results don’t go your way, this kind of situations tend to happen.


Host:(Jose Ramon De la Morena)Albert Riera good evening

-  Good evening.

How are you?

-  Well…

Your tone of voice says it all…

-  Heh…well it’s a bit late.  We have a match tomorrow and we have to win at all costs because above all, ahead of any player’s personal situation is the club’s, which is most important.  And the truth is that tomorrow we have a lot hanging on the balance because it is the only competition left for us to win some silverware.  So we need to overcome the bad away result.

But when was the last time you played? January 26th  Like Guillem said?

-  I can’t recall.  But I did play some 20-25 minutes of the second part against Lille in the first leg.  But as a starter might be quite some time, yes.  The last I remember was versus Tottenham at home, which we won 2-0 and the next match was a derby, versus Everton, which I didn’t play and haven’t since.

And did Benitez say anything to you?
-  No, no.

But why is this? Because he signed you.  Usually when a manager makes a personal signing, takes you over to another league, the normal thing would be to say something like: “Look Albert, right now I don’t feel you’re at your best or…

-  Yeah, well but I think a lot of things can happen during the season…and…the situation is different but in this case we’ve worked together for two years and I feel that between player and manager there should be some form of dialogue in order to understand each other, because at the end of the day the most important thing, like I said, is the team.  And in this case it’s not an easy situation because I’m not playing and I don’t notice…what I said is…I don’t want to be misunderstood here, I’m not looking to create any sort of controversy with the manager and I’m not saying he is the main culprit.  I can assure you that if a player is 100% and playing out of this world I don’t think the manager, no matter how little he may like the player, will end up playing, right?  So, I’m acknowledging that the player in my situation also has his share of the blame.  However, it is odd that without a good reason, disappearing out of the team sheets and not getting playing time…and besides, the only thing I’m pointing out is that I don’t get the feeling that there’s a willingness to change the situation.  If I do not form part of his plans there must be such and such things I’m not doing right…but at least let me know what I’m doing wrong to not get any playing time.  The problem is that I don’t know.

But have you attempted to have a chat with Benitez regarding this situation Riera?

-  Let’s see, during these two years we’ve talked many times…

Surely, but lately I mean, since January 26th when your problems started?

-  I’ve been sincere, and I said we don’t speak, so we haven’t…that’s the reality.

But was there a…falling out some sort of moment where you had a discussion or ‘we gave each other the stink eye’, I don’t know…?Was there something that brought along this growing apart from each other? Something that caused this “If he doesn’t speak to me I won’t speak to him”?

-  there have been times when you don’t play and you get mad, some matches where you feel you could’ve helped the team and didn’t,  and I’m sure he has his reasons for not having me on the pitch and I’m sure I have mine as a player.  But I think I’m old enough and have experience in football and, being honest with myself, I think there’s been times where I could have played and didn’t and like it or not you might get angry or mad or whatever and perhaps, I don’t know…he’s in charge and in a position of making decisions…

But is he a manager, Riera, is he a manager…because the last time I was there in Liverpool and we did the programme with him on the radio.  Is he someone who speaks to the players? Because he told me he’s usually not on the pitch with the players during training.  He’s in his office and has someone on the coaching staff work during the training sessions.  His role is more as a manager.  He said it was a reason he’s gotten heavier.

-  (Laughs)I don’t know.  I can tell you from my own personal experience. I can’t speak for my team-mates, as you would understand.  Each player may have a different type of relationship, there’s players he does…

What I’m asking is if you have a lot of contact with him.  If you see him often and if he says ‘Do this, correct that, etc..’ and if you have a chance of speaking to him.  But if indeed, someone else carries out the training sessions…then I guess you wouldn’t see him as frequently.

-  Well, as you well know here in England you’re not only a coach or ‘trainer’ but also a manager and obviously during the training sessions you can’t be there all the time because you have to attend to other business.  But I can’t say he doesn’t correct things, by all means, that is the managers main job and it’s what he does, correct things.  But I’m saying that on a personal level I haven’t received those instructions.

For example, on a daily basis, how often do you see him?

-  In the morning.

In the mornings because he receives you there and you all have breakfast at the training ground?

-  The players have breakfast together.

But does he come down to the training session, and gives the instructions.  “today we’re doing a,b, and c” etc and then leaves or what?

-  It’s not the same every day…

But on average what is it like?

-  …but he does have other tasks inside the club and he’s not always present in training but we’re talking about a specific issue which is about me not playing and I can tell you only about my personal experience, which is that I haven’t had any sort of chat or conversation with him for, whatever reason.

So you feel there is something personal, some gesture you made or something he didn’t like about you and you two grew apart and you say that you haven’t gone straight to him to ask for an explanation but he hasn’t given them to you either…

-  Let’s see, as you well know last season I played an important number of games…

You played 28 games and scored 3 goals…

-  Last season I played poorly in some games yet I would get another opportunity the next match.  So in that case I didn’t go to his office to ask for an explanation or to say that I shouldn’t play because I didn’t do so well in the last game.  So, out of respect towards my team-mates I wouldn’t go now and ask him why he’s not putting me on the pitch.  However, aside from the football issue there is the personal treatment and in this case, on a personal level I believe that  as adults if we wanted to fix this we could talk and repair or, at least attempt, to come to a closer understanding.

Are you planning on this? Tomorrow…because I’m sure people are going to call him and say “Albert said…”

-  Yes, yes, of course.  I have no problem doing that whatsoever.  Talking is the key to understanding each other and I think it should be that way.  And at the end, the important thing for the good, not only my own, but the good of the club, his own and everybody’s is for it to be that way, thru speaking.  I’ve explained my situation and what I don’t want and have no interest in is to make an enemy out of Rafa, at all, on the contrary.  I don’t want to create any controversy but my situation is what it is.  I have a very low chance of making the WC squad…

That is evident.  Last season you were part of the national team squad and you were mostly a starter for Liverpool …

-  And I’m looking for a solution to at least get to play football and have at least the minimal chance of making the WC squad .

Albert, but either way Rafa is not the sort of manager that is known for encouraging players.  He likes to keep a distance.  Which doesn’t mean it’s a bad thing at all.  It’s one form of tactical approach.

-  I wouldn’t know what to answer to that.  Let’s see, I think every player is different.  I think it’s impossible to…

Depends on the player…

-  I think it’s different on each case.  Every player has a different type of character, personality.  So I feel you should treat players according to their personality.  So perhaps, some players it’s better to encourage them, give them confidence, give them a little pat on the back – sometimes that’s worth more than a thousand words-.  So I don’t know…

He’s never done that with you?

-  That’s why I mention it, sometimes these types of things give you more confidence to keep working and I’ve never gotten that from him but perhaps he has his own reasons for that.

If you don’t play, of course, it’s going to be impossible to make it back on the national team.

-  Of course.  As soon as the list of players for the match against France came out I knew I wouldn’t be on it.  And I thanked them for getting in contact with me and becoming interested on my situation.  But it is normal that if a player is not getting regular playing time he’s not going to get called up for the national team.  Specially this squad where it’s very difficult to get a place [because of the quality].

And why do you think Riera that this year in Liverpool things haven’t worked out the way everyone expected?

-  I don’t know, I ask myself the same question.  Because they changed players?  Simply…well not simple players because they’re both playing for Real Madrid.  So they’re clearly good, but I feel they were both well replaced because we signed the right back for the English national team and the player who replaced Xabi Alonso was a starter for Roma, Aquilani.  So..

With Xabi Alonso he didn’t have a great relationship either because I know he didn’t speak to Xabi much practically for the whole of last season.  They didn’t have a great relationship.  You must know about this even if you aren’t willing to admit it.

-  Well that was a situation between him and Xabi but they knew it wasn’t the best because Xabi also had his few moments where he didn’t play and they had their issues but look, besides all of that, which can happen on a daily basis, there are twenty –five players on a squad and there are many different circumstances during a season, there are highs and lows.  Sometimes you may lose a game and come back with low morale and have some sort of clash or misunderstanding with someone.  But at the end the important thing is how you mend the relationship and how it ends up for the good of the group.  And this is the situation we need to come together and fix.  And this is what I want, by all means, and I repeat, I don’t want to create a conflict with anybody.  What I want, if possible…I don’t want to have to leave, I’d much rather stay at this great club and I’m extremely happy here.  All I want is a chance to play.  And if I don’t play and I’m given some reasons then at least I’ll know why I’m not playing.  But at least I’ll know what I’m doing wrong and I can work to improve in those aspects.  So, this is all I want to know and what I’m trying to do to have a chance to get on the pitch and be happy here, which in all honestly is a terrific place to play football.

We’ll get this fixed tomorrow Albert you’ll see.  As soon as Rafa rings you up and says “What did you say, I was told this, what not..” you’ll see this will take care of itself.

-  This is what I hope for and wish.

I’m sure of it, you’ll see.

-  Besides, if you put yourself in my place is what you’d wish for.  All you want is to be well and never, never…sometimes when you get mad and say ‘f***, this person is such’ …at the end those things lead  to nowhere.  And I think all of us wish to be cordial with each other because otherwise it’s all somber faces and never leads to any positive changes.

Is it very cold there in Liverpool tonight?

-  Actually not, lately, this past week’s we’ve managed to sneak it a game of golf here and there (chuckles)so this means the good weather is coming back.

Very well, take care Albert, good night.

-  Thank you very much man, good night.

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Come to think of it though, there may be a simpler explanation to all these. Perhaps after Babel was rewarded a few starts since his public rant that Riera might think of using the same tactic. laugh.gif

Anyway the interview does reveal that perhaps Rafa is not as engaged in training sessions as we all perceive. After all, once Rafa found out that Babel was unhappy, he called him in and had a proper talk. After that, he was rewarded with some games and actually put in effort. Don't forget that there are 20-odd players in the first team, and also with the restructuring of the youth and academy teams, he always would have his mind on other things. Perhaps it's also right to question the coaching staff as aren't they suppose to be guiding the players towards the right direction? Rafa may be in charge of the team sheet but he is advised by the staff.

Either that or Riera has seriously drop out from Rafa's plans. Didn't Jovanovic sign a pre-season contract? If that's the case I can really sympathise with him.

And defesta, it's silly to compare football with badminton. It's Liverpool FC after all, you're always gonna have to fight for your place. The question here is not whether he is playing or not, but rather the communication or the reason (or lack of) why he is not playing. Riera's frustrated he is not given pointers by the manager on where to improve.

PS: If you guys would like to talk about your own players, at least get their names right. It's Riera, not Reira or Riena.
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though it is a twat move by riera lashing out the manager at the media i can understand his frustration. he started to play regularly then he's injured than when fit, played once injured again than now not playing at all even when he's fit. rafa's man management style is worrying because clearly players is not happy.


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Last year was a fluke. When u look at da statistics, Liverpool are always chasing the 4th spot mostly. So getting 2nd place for 1 time only is fluke!.
r u serious.. finish 2nd was a fluke? i dont know whether u watch different games or not but all the result especially the 2nd half of last season is not a fluke. the team last year played very well week after week.. no way in hell people calling that was a fluke. give some credits to the players and the manager, will ya?

don't know what went wrong this season buy we obviously can see some glimpse of what could have been if the players were playing well (MU, Spurs and Pompey 2nd games)
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No doubt Rafa is a master tactician. His European track record doesnt lie. You shouldnt judge him just because of one poor season in CL. I don't have a specific recollection of how many managers who were able to get their team in 2 finals of CL after only 4 years of managing the team.

But there is some degree of truth in what Riera said. Rafa's man management is really poor. This is a irrefutable and undeniable fackt. Yet another new player bombed. How many players he signed crapped out after 1-2 seasons? Is Rafa too demanding?i think he is. If a player don play to his letter, chances are he will be dropped and become unfavorable. It works both ways, managers need the confidence of his players to get his plans rite and

Players also need confidence and time from their manager to become better players. Barcelona & Arsenal let their players express themselves on the field and it has paid off handsomely.

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Mar 18 2010, 04:53 PM)
though it is a twat move by riera lashing out the manager at the media i can understand his frustration. he started to play regularly then he's injured than when fit, played once injured again than now not playing at all even when he's fit. rafa's man management style is worrying because clearly players is not happy.
r u serious.. finish 2nd was a fluke? i dont know whether u watch different games or not but all the result especially the 2nd half of last season is not a fluke. the team last year played very well week after week.. no way in hell people calling that was a fluke. give some credits to the players and the manager, will ya?

don't know what went wrong this season buy we obviously can see some glimpse of what could have been if the players were playing well (MU, Spurs and Pompey 2nd games)
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ironic that the media speaking of chelsea not winning much since jose has gone. (how much again roman spend to win premiership?? yawn.gif )

i wont be surprised if we fail to capture 4th (not tht i wish we wouldnt), i dont & cant blame rafa much for the mess. yawn.gif

just take a game as it comes, we can & hope the situation will have a silver lining in light of the financial debacle at Lfc. its business i know for the americans but at least show some decent compasion for football like you like american sports.

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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Mar 18 2010, 12:13 PM)
Deja Vu from the Babel incident eh? But after some "talking" with Rafa, Babel seems to be working harder these days.

I feel for Riera because being being Spain No.2 left winger, how is he not good enough to even make it to the bench? Must have been puzzling that Kuyt makes it to the team week in and out but he on the other hand has to resort to waiting.

But as much as I sympathize with him, I'm equally disappointed by his decision to speak out especially on a eve of a European match. I really liked him as a player but that was very selfish and unprofessional.
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Mar 18 2010, 12:14 PM)
It was inevitable really. There is something about rafa and wingers that just doesn't quite click. At first it was Pennant, but back then we all said that it was cause he was not disciplined enough. It didn't help his cause too that he played like a lemon more often than not. Then it was Babel, who despite having a superb debut season, was left to rot on the bench. "Oh, he's not Spanish and couldn't get along with Rafa!", we said. And Babel turned into a lemon as well soon after.

Now, Reira's been one of our best wingers for some time now. He's Spanish. He's got bags of talent, directness, skill and height. So what's wrong now?

We've wasted the talents of Pennant (ok, ok... perhaps I'm overdoing it here), Babel and Reira. mad.gif  And this is not the first time a player has come out and said the very same things about Rafa.

Rafa needs a talking to. And honestly I'd rather lose Rafa and keep Babel and Reira.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Mar 18 2010, 05:43 PM)
No doubt Rafa is a master tactician. His European track record doesnt lie. You shouldnt judge him just because of one poor season in CL. I don't have a specific recollection of how many managers who were able to get their team in 2 finals of CL after only 4 years of managing the team.

But there is some degree of truth in what Riera said. Rafa's man management is really poor. This is a irrefutable and undeniable fackt. Yet another new player bombed. How many players he signed crapped out after 1-2 seasons? Is Rafa too demanding?i think he is. If a player don play to his letter, chances are he will be dropped and become unfavorable. It works both ways, managers need the confidence of his players to get his plans rite and

Players also need confidence and time from their manager to become better players. Barcelona & Arsenal let their players express themselves on the field and it has paid off handsomely.
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but in rafa's defence, he does tweak the team accordingly....lucas and kuyt were benched due to recent subpar performance, up come babel and aqua, who have been rearing to go...

with the fragility of the player mentality i think thats the area that rafa has definitely gotta improve....stevie's playing like crap, with no gusto and the fire in the belly is now mere embers if not ashes....and that could definitely use some input from rafa, as we all know stevie is abit of a baby kinda person, one of those who would like a pat on the back for a good performance (remember stevie once said that? wink.gif )....so in that area rafa's definitely gotta buck up...

but i dont think he is as stubborn as we all thought he was....i think he is just to objective and hence the lack of the personal / emotional / human side of things....if he is still stubborn he'd have kept lucaas n kuyt, both his fav players on for Pompey's match but he didnt...he could very well could as our season is that bad, i dont think he could lose much more by sticking with his stubborness, but he did not, he remained objective...as usual


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QUOTE(madmoz @ Mar 18 2010, 12:14 PM)
It was inevitable really. There is something about rafa and wingers that just doesn't quite click. At first it was Pennant, but back then we all said that it was cause he was not disciplined enough. It didn't help his cause too that he played like a lemon more often than not. Then it was Babel, who despite having a superb debut season, was left to rot on the bench. "Oh, he's not Spanish and couldn't get along with Rafa!", we said. And Babel turned into a lemon as well soon after.

Now, Reira's been one of our best wingers for some time now. He's Spanish. He's got bags of talent, directness, skill and height. So what's wrong now?

We've wasted the talents of Pennant (ok, ok... perhaps I'm overdoing it here), Babel and Reira. mad.gif  And this is not the first time a player has come out and said the very same things about Rafa.

Rafa needs a talking to. And honestly I'd rather lose Rafa and keep Babel and Reira.
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I really hope we will win tonight's match and go all the way to win the Europa League.. At least there's something to cheer me up..

I begin to sense the Rafa's tactical move.. He purposely ask for huge contract knowing that the yanks wouldn't be able to sack him if he's messing around..
Then buy one great but injured player at a premium and tied it for 5 years so he can put him into the bench as backup and hoping to play him on next season..
And then he purposely bring Liverpool out of CL and out of the top four, so that Liverpool will have torrid time in paying the debt, leading to the yanks has to sell the club..
And then we will have more than enough money to buy any players that he wants and bring Liverpool back to the right course..

What a story...
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Gotta win today. Come on guys!
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astro is showing juve match and not liverpool? wtf??
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astro is showing juve match and not liverpool? wtf??
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QUOTE(Predator10 @ Mar 18 2010, 11:25 PM)
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ni nak kena doa lebih sikit ni.. something to salvage the season.. i like your prediction there fenzodahl.. nice!
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Its time to buckle up, and get a win at Anfield..I want to wake up next morning seeing the result goes to us..

C'mon LFC..
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meng.. this casanova dude just won't stop huh?

good luck pool... i wanna see more aquaman! why the F rafa didn't play him since he was available baffles me. nurture him back from injury? then give him time on the pitch la. haiyo... so much trust in lucas. huhuhu...


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The Liverpool team in full: Reina, Insua, Carragher, Agger, Johnson, Mascherano, Lucas, Kuyt, Babel, Gerrard, Torres.
Subs: Cavalieri, Benayoun, Kyrgiakos, Ngog, Degen, El Zhar, Kelly.

we must win tonight and still rafa put 2 DMs ??
good luck rafa, good luck liverpool..
really hope to see nabil playing tonite ..
YNWA!!

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It seems like juventus is out of the europa league. (=
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wonderful result by fulham. truely magic.

no benayoun in the first 11? Damn.
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if not? I rather play 2 dm now than 2 strikers. I'm sure lucas will boost himselves up after aquilani proven.
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Bro. Juve is 2 am lehh. Liverpool is 4am. Astro will show liv game on supersport channel 811 biggrin.gif
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time to watch..gd luck liv!


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Lucas got a penalty for liv. How good is lucas today.
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lol that was unexpected by Lucas
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goalll.....
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wth to torres. He fully buffed with determination.
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guys help me any good streaming link? tq
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QUOTE(johnyblaze87 @ Mar 19 2010, 04:17 AM)
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http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=67513&part=sports

Try NVS9 works for me


Added on March 19, 2010, 4:46 amDid i just saw Maradonna at the seats? @.@

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so many chances..come on guys socre more!!
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Fernando torres.
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Liverpool no.9!
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Torres torres liverpool no.9
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on to quarters!!!
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Am i the only one watching? Lol so quiet.
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Am i the only one watching? Lol so quiet.
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Nando has scored 4 in 2 games btw rclxm9.gif
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Congratz Liverpool!
Fernando is awesome rclxm9.gif
Do me a favor, beat MU next match! tongue.gif
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I realised all our goals scored at 9, 49, 89mins. And 9 is our lucky number. Haha.


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QUOTE(Tupperwarez @ Mar 19 2010, 05:53 AM)
Nope

Nando has scored 4 in 2 games btw  rclxm9.gif
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Nice stats biggrin.gif

Take that Lucas haters. We can win with that squad, just need a stronger bench for support and the players will have some competition like Spurs.
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Today i saw a different Lucas

Dint really expected him to run infront which lead to the first goal notworthy.gif
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woo hoo!!congratz liv!!
baru la confident nak jumpa setan merah ahad ni..

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good win..
very nervous until the 3rd goal
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lol that was unexpected by Lucas
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i tot someone said we cant win when kuyt,lucas starting?? laugh.gif
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seriously .. to Fernando Torres notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
he's the man! if the stupid yanks dont start to realise n bring in squad to win throphy... then we gonna say byebye torres
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QUOTE(leftist @ Mar 19 2010, 08:35 AM)
i tot someone said we cant win when kuyt,lucas starting?? laugh.gif
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Good win and brilliant move by Lucas for the penalty. smile.gif

Anyway regarding the Riera incident, don't know how true the source is, but take the following with a pinch of salt:
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Rafael Benítez banishes vocal Albert Riera
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Albert Riera has been suspended and put up for sale by Liverpool after his criticism of Rafael Benítez.

The winger was dropped from the Liverpool squad for last night’s Europa League game at home to Lille and told not to return to training until Monday, meaning that he will also miss the Barclays Premier League match away to Manchester United on Sunday.

Riera could leave Anfield in weeks, with an immediate move to CSKA Moscow or Spartak Moscow, who are tracking the 27-year-old, a distinct possibility. The transfer window in Russia has been extended until April 8.

Riera, who joined Liverpool from Espanyol in September 2008 for £8 million, has had a fraught relationship with Benítez for several months and his frustrations came to a head on Wednesday.

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He gave an interview to Radio Marca in which he accused the Liverpool manager of giving him the silent treatment, claimed that he was being left out of the team for personal reasons and stated that Benítez’s brand of football is not good enough to earn him the Real Madrid job.

The Spain winger’s withering attack on his manager has also earned him a club fine of two weeks’ wages, but, more significantly, it has signalled the imminent end of his Anfield career, especially if either of the Moscow clubs are willing to match Liverpool’s £8 million valuation.

Riera has been a bit-part figure in Benítez’s squad this season, with a combination of injury problems and poor form costing him a regular starting place. The fact that his outburst came on the eve of last night’s crucial Europa League match meant that Benítez felt he had no choice but to omit him from his plans for the game.

It is not the first time that the pair have been at loggerheads, nor is it the first time that Riera has been fined for his behaviour.

This season he was reprimanded after a training-ground altercation with a promising reserve-team player in which Riera reacted violently to the teenager. The incident incensed Benítez and convinced him that he would have no choice but to sell the Majorca-born winger at the end of this campaign.


His departure date is now likely to have been brought forward and will be confirmed if either of the Moscow clubs are willing to match Liverpool’s £8 million valuation of a player who, until of late, has been a regular in the Spain squad.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/sport/foo...icle7067817.ece
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It was a brilliant win for us...go reds, win the europa league
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I have been supporting Liverpool FC for over 20 years now. Yesterday night, I turned off the tube after watching Fulham magically trash Juventus.

Riera's being suspended and will soon be sold... someone had to say something and imho we are shooting the messenger. What he said lacked class, true but were they not the frustrated rants of someone who wants to know why he is not playing? If he has already been fined for misbehaving, then has he not already been punished?

Ever since the giddy heights of Istanbul I have seen some of my favourite players leave the club and most were not happy departures. Dudek, the hero of THAT penalty shootout was forced out, Bellamy had a fallout with Risse and was sold, Crouch left for greener pastures, Alonso was given the shaft and poor Keane was made into a pawn. Although there were perhaps footballing reasons behind these decisions, the way in which a certain manager handled matters left a bitter aftertaste in my mouth. Now another of my favourites, Riera seems to be destined for the axe as well.

I have always been vocal about Rafa, but I will no longer do so as i vow (once again, oh, I'm such a drama queen laugh.gif) that as long as Rafa is in charge, I will support Liverpool no more.

YNWA rings hollow in my ears sad.gif






God, I hate the sight of that man... his mad scribbling on that damned notebook, his cold emotionless face. mad.gif

TL:DR version - I am going to be super lalang and start supporting Stockport and Manchester City instead! brows.gif

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still remember Guillem Balague views on Riera after Rafa brought him...said he's an inconsistent player..whenever he have a good mood,he can become a brilliant player..but when his mental were down, he's juz rubbish..as for me player like Riera were best utilized as a backup..when we needed width,he's one of the best out there..pity if he go..but if that can stabilize our dressing room,think rafa's knows best..Alex Ferguson wont tolerate a player like Riera thats for sure..no matter how great that player is nod.gif
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Congrats, its great to see liverpool proceeds to QF smile.gif smile.gif

While everyone is giving credits to Lucas, saying how well that he played. But in my POV, i also see that inconsistency in him. Didnt he had enough chances for doing that? Or only play well when 1st team position being threatened by others then back to same old him later? shakehead.gif

To bring up this is because i dont really favour to have 1 game worldclass 10 game schoolboy footballer to be in the squad, at least not in the 1st team, its typically inconsistent. Man Utd next!

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Great win ahead of the game against those Mancs. It's been quite some time since I've seen Gerrard with a smile like that. Hopefully we can keep the momentum and spirit high till end of the season. Come on you Reds!
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Mar 19 2010, 10:27 AM)
I have always been vocal about Rafa, but I will no longer do so as i vow (once again, oh, I'm such a drama queen laugh.gif) that as long as Rafa is in charge, I will support Liverpool no more.

YNWA rings hollow in my ears  sad.gif
God, I hate the sight of that man... his mad scribbling on that damned notebook, his cold emotionless face.  mad.gif

TL:DR version - I am going to be super lalang and start supporting Stockport and Manchester City instead!  brows.gif
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you are not supporting say spurs, city, fulham, everton.

love him, hate him, is up to you. but the club loves you. no one is bigger then the club. flex.gif




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torres second goal was not that beautiful but very cunning. First, he knew where the ball was going to rebound at. i thought he is going to shoot the ball straight to the net when the ball rebound to him, but not. He gets the first touch, then second touch before shoot it, rclxms.gif

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QUOTE(rushmode @ Mar 19 2010, 12:24 PM)
dudek has past it. he always be a legend because of istanbul. but dudek < reina every dem time.
bellamy was a loose cannon and could disrupt the team unity. rafa was right to sold him off. he's not exactly effective when playing with liverpool anyway..
crouch.. was sad rafa sold him but i guess not avoidable since crouch want to play regularly but not a chance in liverpool so..
keane, sadly when he come to liverpool he was off form and past it.
alonso... sadly it was rafa's fault. a great loss.
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Bellamy was sold so that we can fund for Torres. Of course his attitude played a part.
Crouch yearns to go, one year on contract can sell for 11m. Else lose him for free ala Macca.
Keane.........2 sides of opinion.
Alonso, its good biz for both parties though we'll be better off with him in the side. Can a manager stop a player from leaving nowadays? Don't think so.
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i gonna support liverpool when meet MANU.... hope u guys did a good job again like last match again them.... thumbup.gif thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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Anyway who do you guys fancy in the draw? I'm hoping Atleti or Valencia. The former a formal return for Torres and also a chance for revenge for the pre-season loss; the latter an emotional return for Rafa.

Prefer Valencia though as we were drawn against Atleti last season in the CL. But as long as it's not Fulham it'll be good.
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congraz to liverpool for recent pick up of form. but it will end by Man Utd next match.  cool2.gif
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hey, my money is on liverpool to win the europa cup. just dont think they can beat us.  smile.gif
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At very long last, a convincing performance in Europe this season. The early goal did it for us if you ask me. We were allowed a good amount of space for much of the game because of it. I suspect that Lille would otherwise have shut up shop, looking to his us on the counterattack, knowing that a goal would mean we had to get three but that gameplan evaporated the minute Stevie converted his spot kick. A few anxious moments especially when Hazard ghosted right through the middle, only to be foiled by Pepe's head but otherwise, we were in complete control.

So next up, Man Utd. They'll surely be looking to avenge the 4-1 drubbing we gave them last season and with Rooney firing on all cylinders, they have to be odds on favourites to win this one however a certain Fernando Torres also seems to be in good form despite a largely injury riddled season. As much as I hope we can upset the formbooks, I'm tipping the mancs for a rather comfortable win. Let's hope I'm wrong. We're suspect defensively on the flanks and that's were I think we'll get hurt.
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At very long last, a convincing performance in Europe this season. The early goal did it for us if you ask me. We were allowed a good amount of space for much of the game because of it. I suspect that Lille would otherwise have shut up shop, looking to his us on the counterattack, knowing that a goal would mean we had to get three but that gameplan evaporated the minute Stevie converted his spot kick. A few anxious moments especially when Hazard ghosted right through the middle, only to be foiled by Pepe's head but otherwise, we were in complete control.

So next up, Man Utd. They'll surely be looking to avenge the 4-1 drubbing we gave them last season and with Rooney firing on all cylinders, they have to be odds on favourites to win this one however a certain Fernando Torres also seems to be in good form despite a largely injury riddled season. As much as I hope we can upset the formbooks, I'm tipping the mancs for a rather comfortable win. Let's hope I'm wrong. We're suspect defensively on the flanks and that's were I think we'll get hurt.
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positive notes : we qualified with one of our better performances , lucas did much better - more alert, cutting out supplies to hazard and frau..pushing forward whenever possible, babel tracking back and closing down - not often we see him doing this..guess the chat with rafa did go on well and hope riera learn from this instead of voicing out his frustrtation.
from the 2 matches, i thought hazard was good, comfortable with the ball on his feet, nice touches and first time pass, have got pace and very nearly equalised.... a possible addition to our squad perhaps ? anyone ?

worrying notes: on the coming match, we have been poor away..and hasnt scored..was it like 3/4 away games already ? as much as sols love insua tongue.gif , i think he'll have a tough time defending against valencia icon_question.gif and so long we keep their wingers quiet and cut their supplies and crosses we might have a slight chance as i believe we are better in the middle of the park. we are certainly the underdogs here and i go with duke's prediction that manu should win. i hope i am proven wrong.

p.s i hope to see aqua play at least 30mins ! would love to see him go against better players and a more organised team compared to pompey laugh.gif

and expect to see masch and lucas and gerrard closing down mancs players the whole game... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(-nana- @ Mar 19 2010, 03:00 PM)
worrying notes: on the coming match, we have been poor away..and hasnt scored..was it like 3/4 away games already ? as much as sols love insua  tongue.gif , i think he'll have a tough time defending against valencia  icon_question.gif and so long we keep their wingers quiet and cut their supplies and crosses we might have a slight chance as i believe we are better in the middle of the park. we are certainly the underdogs here and i go with duke's prediction that manu should win. i hope i am proven wrong.

p.s i hope to see aqua play at least 30mins ! would love to see him go against better players and a more organised team compared to pompey  laugh.gif

and expect to see masch and lucas and gerrard closing down mancs players the whole game... notworthy.gif
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Both fullback are susceptible for leaking goals. Both fullback (Insua and Johnson) are more reknown for their overlapping ability and attack. But if ball break lose when attacking then often out of position.
And inability to score goals and negativity mindset in away match are the biggest worry.

A draw is already a good result, my view only.

I do hope Rafa plays attacking line-up against MU, with Aqualani in starting lineup just like against Pompey. Be positive is always the key to win or having good result.

Having said that, I think Rafa will play defensive line up again, with Lucas + Mascherano in the CM, and Kuyt at right, Babel at left, with Torres upfront alone with Gerrard behind, a predictable line up again.

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last match rio was the victim of torres. this time who ? hmm.gif

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If any British manager is going to replace Rafa i hope its going to be Roy Hodgson seriously...look at the wonders he's doing with the threadbare squad Fulham..if he can turn a lemon like Zamora into a proper goalscorer u ought to wonder what he can do do develop the likes of Torres, Ngog and Babel..
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Benitez hails Torres after double

Liverpool manager Rafael Benitez praised the "fantastic job" of Fernando Torres after the striker scored twice in the 3-0 victory over Lille.

Trailing 1-0 from the first leg of their Europa League last 16 tie, captain Steven Gerrard's ninth-minute penalty drew the Reds level on aggregate and then Fernando Torres' 16th and 17th goals of the season - and his first in Europe since last April - put his side into the last eight.

Benitez said his star striker was not yet 100% fit but after four goals in his last two matches - he scored twice in Monday's 4-1 Barclays Premier League victory over Portsmouth - he is approaching it.

"Torres was working very hard and I am really pleased because he did a fantastic job," said the Spaniard.

"Match fitness is something you can only get by playing games. I'd like to say he's 50% [fit] but he is close, it is a question of playing games.

"But I still believe he can improve. You can see there is a big difference when he plays well and it is the same with Gerrard too.

"It helps the rest of the team to play better."

Benitez was happy with the display after they restricted a potentially dangerous Lille side to very few chances.

"It was a really good performance. We could see the players working really hard together and it was a good night," he added.

"It was difficult because Lille are a good team, but it was a fantastic atmosphere tonight and everybody is happy now.

"The early goal was important because we knew we had to push forward from the beginning - and that goal gave us more time and confidence.

"At 2-0 they were still dangerous so we needed the third goal just in case and, when it went in, it was a bit of relief."

Benitez woke this morning to stories about winger Albert Riera criticising his management technique and saying Liverpool were a sinking ship.

The Reds boss' response was to suspend the Spain international until Monday, when he will report back to the club's Melwood training ground to discover if he will be punished further but a fine is the very least he can expect.

"The timing was not the best for the team and we will deal with this internally," was all Benitez would say on the matter."

Lille coach Rudi Garcia felt the scoreline flattered Liverpool.

"I think it was a bit harsh and not a fair reflection but we've nothing to be ashamed about with this defeat," said the Frenchman.

"One thing that slightly disappointed me about the performance was in attack where we didn't really have a cutting edge and we didn't pose enough of a threat.

"We were in with a shout right up until Liverpool scored their third goal, which I think came from a foul.

"We bossed the tie in the first leg but tonight Liverpool were better than us."




quote frm the bold, 50% match fitness score 4 in 2 games. LOL so 100% should be 8 in 2 games?

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If any British manager is going to replace Rafa i hope its going to be Roy Hodgson seriously...look at the wonders he's doing with the threadbare squad Fulham..if he can turn a lemon like Zamora into a proper goalscorer u ought to wonder what he can do do develop the likes of Torres, Ngog and Babel..
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last match rio was the victim of torres. this time who ?  hmm.gif
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last match rio was the victim of torres. this time who ?  hmm.gif
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I think better field Aquilani for ManU match because he has this "secret weapon" kinda aura.

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QUOTE(koolspyda @ Mar 19 2010, 04:45 PM)
if LFC had fulham players + Roy Hodgson & play like fulham (nice attacking style), we (LFC) WILL be exactly where fulhams standings in the league.  tongue.gif  cool2.gif
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Torres did get the better of Vidic the last time round when he outpaced the defender after the latter had misjudged a pass but it's always going to be tough for Torres, especially when you are up alone against two centrebacks.
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draw's been kind to lfc, both quarter final and semi we get 2nd leg at home... hope lfc beat benfica for a showdown with valencia in the semi..
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having the 2nd leg in anfield definately an advantage..and if we go all the way, we 'll be the 'home' team in germany !
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I have a bad feeling Torres will be injured against those sc*m defenders. He's definitely will be up on his own again & I reckon the sc*m manager has had it enough losing to a 'mediocre' Liverpool side. Anybody read his latest comment on Gerrard's FA punishment escape? He's one bitter sc*m. Clearly doesn't realized he always got away from any incident. I bet if he crashed his car onto a lamp-post, the lamp-post will be fined for being there at the first place.
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I have a bad feeling Torres will be injured against those sc*m defenders. He's definitely will be up on his own again & I reckon the sc*m manager has had it enough losing to a 'mediocre' Liverpool side. Anybody read his latest comment on Gerrard's FA punishment escape? He's one bitter sc*m. Clearly doesn't realized he always got away from any incident. I bet if he crashed his car onto a lamp-post, the lamp-post will be fined for being there at the first place.
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SAF the whiskey nose **** maybe too drunk or senile to remember he and his players always got special treatment.. this is his usual mind game antics before the games.
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Torres definately a top prof player. Even he is off injury and come back, he did preform well.

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Torres definately a top prof player. Even he is off injury and come back, he did preform well.
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As an isolated striker as well.
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invitation to lpool fanz 2 c the match m.u vs lpool.. at elephant park, near sunway lagoon smile.gif
Stadium Match Viewing Party - Sponsored By Football Focus Asia

Manchester United vs Liverpool

Place : Elephantpark Sunway Lagoon
Date : 21 March 2010
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It will be held at the Elephantpark ( free zone ) and there have football carnival like Master Football event started from 6.30PM until the game start.

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is this at the amphitheatre?
i'm still considering between library or sunway
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the prince
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with this player in squad manchester wuld be piece of cake

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carra sucks big time. when rafa can change him off....

torres meant 5 players need to be changed , guess who?

1)babel
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5)carra

5 players for 5 players


Added on March 20, 2010, 2:02 amlucas is good...can be improved btw.

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i dun feel boring watchin liv vs portmoth many time.. all 4 goal scored by my fav player..

aquaman is really good lah !!! time to drop lucas
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QUOTE(fk2222 @ Mar 20 2010, 02:02 AM)
carra sucks big time. when rafa can change him off....

torres meant 5 players need to be changed , guess who?

1)babel
2)benayoun
3)reira
4)insua
5)carra

5 players for 5 players


Added on March 20, 2010, 2:02 amlucas is good...can be improved btw.
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aqua should start for the MU match

kuyt should be rested


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=========reina==========
glen====carra===soto==insua=
=========mash==========
=============gerro======
maxi==============babel==
====prince===============
===========torres========


this is the best against Manu tho our winger abit unstable
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you guys sure it was lucas??? smile.gif

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QUOTE(gidlcin @ Mar 19 2010, 08:39 AM)
seriously .. to Fernando Torres  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
he's the man! if the stupid yanks dont start to realise n bring in squad to win throphy... then we gonna say byebye torres
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Next Prediction:

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Don't mind about the score really, jz hope after FT we r the winning side.. icon_rolleyes.gif


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I think better field Aquilani for ManU match because he has this "secret weapon" kinda aura.
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Torres did get the better of Vidic the last time round when he outpaced the defender after the latter had misjudged a pass but it's always going to be tough for Torres, especially when you are up alone against two centrebacks.
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Wonder if there r 2 torres, the 2 centrebacks will b in big touble.. flex.gif


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I have a bad feeling Torres will be injured against those sc*m defenders. He's definitely will be up on his own again & I reckon the sc*m manager has had it enough losing to a 'mediocre' Liverpool side. Anybody read his latest comment on Gerrard's FA punishment escape? He's one bitter sc*m. Clearly doesn't realized he always got away from any incident. I bet if he crashed his car onto a lamp-post, the lamp-post will be fined for being there at the first place.
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SAF the whiskey nose **** maybe too drunk or senile to remember he and his players always got special treatment.. this is his usual mind game antics before the games.
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Mar 20 2010, 02:56 AM)
i dun feel boring watchin liv vs portmoth many time.. all 4 goal scored by my fav player..

aquaman is really good lah !!! time to drop lucas
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Lucas time r counted now.. brows.gif

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Can't wait for the game.. rclxm9.gif
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lucas road to doom

10 day to go rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Mar 20 2010, 02:56 AM)
i dun feel boring watchin liv vs portmoth many time.. all 4 goal scored by my fav player..

aquaman is really good lah !!! time to drop lucas
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eh skel, dun say like that lah.. pity lucas la.. isn't he is the most improved player in the squad rite now?
hahaha..
Lucas is ok, but Aqua is better... rclxms.gif
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you changing your lover ka bro.. back then lucas, now the prince?
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for those who hoping lucas wont start tomoro, u guys must b dreaming since we talking about benitez here...it will be classical mascherano+lucas combo in the central of midf to stop them from playing.., gerrard, torres, kuyt, probably babel will b given green light to terrorize man u defense,,.
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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Mar 20 2010, 12:47 PM)
eh skel, dun say like that lah.. pity lucas la.. isn't he is the most improved player in the squad rite now?
hahaha..
Lucas is ok, but Aqua is better...  rclxms.gif
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dun worry i very rate lucas in FM10.. he can assist as well as scoring .. somehow better than gerrard during his age rolleyes.gif


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QUOTE(ELm_ELm @ Mar 20 2010, 12:53 PM)
for those who hoping lucas wont start tomoro, u guys must b dreaming since we talking about benitez here...it will be classical mascherano+lucas combo in the central of midf to stop them from playing.., gerrard, torres, kuyt, probably babel will b given green light to terrorize man u defense,,.
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ohh i forgot... the game is too physical for aquaman rolleyes.gif

another mashcas combination

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seems someone forget lucas contibution on thursday.. rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Mar 20 2010, 02:54 PM)
seems someone forget lucas contibution on thursday.. rolleyes.gif
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like i said.. i still rate him FM10 biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(azrulkamal240 @ Mar 20 2010, 12:47 PM)
eh skel, dun say like that lah.. pity lucas la.. isn't he is the most improved player in the squad rite now?
hahaha..
Lucas is ok, but Aqua is better...  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(solstice818 @ Mar 20 2010, 11:13 AM)
Pepe Reina is flying the flag for loyalty after signing new contract at Liverpool

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz0igOvaUfm
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eh riera still training lah! i thought rafa suspended him! laugh.gif

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aston villa 1 - 2 wolverhampton now HT
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full time 2-2 already bro.. carewwww..
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dont forget lucas is improving and aqua played well, against a team doomed for relegation..so dont get over hyped with aqua's performance..as much as he did good..it'll only matter if he can do it consistently.

my line up prediction: reina, glen, carra, agger, insua, kuyt, masch, lucas, maxi, gerrard, torres. unsure.gif just cant wait for tmr's match ! another 23hours to go !
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QUOTE(-nana- @ Mar 20 2010, 11:00 PM)
dont forget lucas is improving and aqua played well, against a team doomed for relegation..so dont get over hyped with aqua's performance..as much as he did good..it'll only matter if he can do it consistently.

my line up prediction: reina, glen, carra, agger, insua, kuyt, masch, lucas, maxi, gerrard, torres.  unsure.gif just cant wait for tmr's match ! another 23hours to go !
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judging from his recent match, yes aqua is on form, i dont mind him playing cm but i rather hav him on the bench if benitez decided to play him off position because u know its really hard benitez for not to play lucas these days,,
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riera look too frustated cant get 1st team app...
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Lucas will probably start up pairing with masch.. aqua will standby as super-sub.. but i think either lucas or aqua both are quite decent atm.. lucas already prove that he always in superb form when our team faced with big teams..
both masch-lucas can be very important combo for us to stop manyur's midfield to attack us, but it's all rely on gerrard as well whether he can generate our attacking effectively or not..
let's keep our fingers cross.. hopefully we can seal the game tomorrow..
dun forget to come to Elephant Park Sunway tomorrow to support our beloved team...


Added on March 21, 2010, 1:36 ammy prediction line-up would be;

reina
glen-carra-agger-insua
kuyt-masch-lucas-babel
gerrard
torres

good formation Rafa!!!

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babel & benny i prefer more playin on second half so that dey can bring more destructife usin their skill n speed.. rather like maxi or kuy with startin line up



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QUOTE(revenent7 @ Mar 16 2010, 05:43 PM)
invitation to lpool fanz 2 c the match m.u vs lpool.. at elephant park, near sunway lagoon smile.gif
Stadium Match Viewing Party - Sponsored By Football Focus Asia

Manchester United vs Liverpool

Place : Elephantpark Sunway Lagoon
Date : 21 March 2010
Time : 6.30 - 12.00pm
Fee : Free


It will be held at the Elephantpark ( free zone ) and there have football carnival like Master Football event started from 6.30PM until the game start.

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is this at the amphitheatre?
i'm still considering between library or sunway
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anyone?
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QUOTE(fk2222 @ Mar 21 2010, 09:06 AM)
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living cost in dubai oso high lol.. last time go to dubai mall.. order nasi goreng & WTF rm50 per plate!!
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you are going to liverpool for vacation?
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[quote=red_brick_zero,Mar 21 2010, 09:56 AM]
is this at the amphitheatre?
i'm still considering between library or sunway
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anyone?
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I am planning go this one or library ...anyone want join me blink.gif
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Just checking - anyone from SG watching the game?
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QUOTE(skeleton202 @ Mar 21 2010, 10:15 AM)
living cost in dubai oso high lol.. last time go to dubai mall.. order nasi goreng & WTF rm50 per plate!!
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dubai, orang cakap lu takda RM100,000 jangan pergi sana main.. ahaha..

btw, tonite i support YNWA~!
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QUOTE(fk2222 @ Mar 21 2010, 09:06 AM)
anyone knows living cost in liverpool is high?
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not really for uk standard if compared to London

it is high everywhere in uk if you convert everything to RM

Example, taking a return bus ride from city center to Anfield is 3 pounds, some normal fish and chips cost 3-4 pounds, drinks cost typically 1 pound/bottle or can outside the stadium....

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Anyone going for the viewing at the Elephant Park??
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QUOTE(aiyish @ Mar 21 2010, 02:45 PM)
Anyone going for the viewing at the Elephant Park??
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I still cant decide to go elephant park or library , scare full of manu fans there
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Happy Birthday Torres!

Please score a hattrick tonight!.

GO GO LIVERPOOL!!!!
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QUOTE(leaF @ Mar 21 2010, 03:13 PM)
I still cant decide to go elephant park or library , scare full of manu fans there
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come library la, for sure lots of lfc fans tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Mar 21 2010, 04:56 PM)
where is elephant park?
come library la,  for sure lots of lfc fans tongue.gif
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Happy HATTRICK birthday, El Nino ..... YNWA ..... Go for the jugular tonite, LFC !!!!!
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went to sunway before..the place is nice but lotsa noisy people..both teams fans / rempits that dont really watch football but just wanna mock each others..(mostly but not all)

i think i'll go library..wanna sing and jump lose or win doesnt matter
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QUOTE(chypher @ Mar 21 2010, 03:52 PM)
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Please score a hattrick tonight!.

GO GO LIVERPOOL!!!!
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yarghh!!!! let the MANU down.... thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif
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i'mma going library today with a friend. hope to see you guys there.
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he gets the ball he scores again
fernando torres liverpool`s number 9.
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waiting for the lineup .. tongue.gif
although its predictable but we dont know what rafa thinks.. )
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Is the lineup released yet? I hope Aqualani starts.
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waiting for the lineup .. tongue.gif
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Reina, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Insua, Lucas, Mascherano, Kuyt, Gerrard, Maxi, Torres.

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lineup? aquaman starts?


Added on March 21, 2010, 8:55 pmwtf ler aquaman didn't start...

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Reina
Johnson--- Carragher--- Agger--- Insua
Masch---Lucas
Kuyt-------Gerrard-----Maxi
Torres


Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Benayoun, Kyrgiakos, Babel, Ngog, Kelly
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The team in full is: Reina, Insua, Johnson, Carragher, Agger, Mascherano, Lucas, Gerrard, Rodriguez, Kuyt, Torres. Subs: Cavalieri, Aquilani, Benayoun, Kyrgiakos, Babel, Ngog, Kelly.

ManU:
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Neville Ferdinand Vidic Evra
Fletcher Carrick Park
Valencia Rooney Nani

Subs:Kuszczak, Rafael, Evans, Giggs, Scholes, Obertan, Berbatov.
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hi..do any1 know any live streaming (online) for this big match..
any link plz..thanks.. nod.gif

-YNWA-
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good line up btw, just hoping that insua wont making any crucial mistakes tnight, especially nani n valencia probably swooping places...

on our pov, if torres can get decent supplies of service, i say we hav a good chance to nick 3 points..
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aquilani has to play shit to get in to the team, according to rafa.


Added on March 21, 2010, 9:08 pmaquilani has to play shit to get in to the team, according to rafa.

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QUOTE(sivapc @ Mar 21 2010, 09:08 PM)
aquilani has to play shit to get in to the team, according to rafa.
statements like this are usually done AFTER the match not before aite? blush.gif
Positive vibes now.

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QUOTE(ELm_ELm @ Mar 21 2010, 09:06 PM)
good line up btw, just hoping that insua wont making any crucial mistakes tnight, especially nani n valencia probably swooping places...

on our pov, if torres can get decent supplies of service, i say we hav a good chance to nick 3 points..
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QUOTE(visionary1993 @ Mar 21 2010, 09:09 PM)
statements like this are usually done AFTER the match not before aite?  blush.gif
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Nani and Valencia won't swap places but both of them will drift inside often and had a go. as for Park, he will surely roaming around.
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hi..do any1 know any live streaming (online) for this big match..
any link plz..thanks.. nod.gif

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http://www.totalfootballmadness.com/tag/li...ootball-stream/
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I am using SopCast Channel - 6001 as good as usual.

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usually there's a live streaming here...  not sure about this game thou.. have a try..
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Liverpool No.9

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to early....please hold!
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oh shit!! no ,,,,


Added on March 21, 2010, 9:44 pmArgh!!! 1-1 T_____________T

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reina got it right...
rooney rebound, unlucky sad.gif
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Mascherano did nothing to Valencia. Not even a pull.
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You're talking bout the captain now? Where is it? I didn't see it happened in this game.
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QUOTE(shinzan @ Mar 21 2010, 10:36 PM)
Say no to ASTRO!  vmad.gif

Heavy rain in Putrajaya rite now...
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where is your aquailani?
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crap penalty... sigh/.....
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1-1!

Dam it!

Cant watch tho, rain in putrajaya -.-


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i feel your pain man..im in putra too
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anyone streaming on sopcast? may i know the channel? thanks smile.gif

wat about other streaming services? any luck?
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anyone streaming on sopcast? may i know the channel? thanks smile.gif

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QUOTE(buzzfizz @ Mar 21 2010, 10:56 PM)
1-1!

Dam it!

Cant watch tho, rain in putrajaya -.-


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com'on liverpool. Please end Manu title hope! Else Manu will become the most premier league to win the title!
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damnit! im in office.. raining bad... whats the update now?
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Torres is clearly pissed off with the ref.. pls maintain cool ..... hate the ref........arh..
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howard webb is a known bias towards the manc.

and why the hell gerrard doesn't pull masch away from arguing with the ref just now? its dangerous since masch already got yellow carded.
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Remember this name: Howard Webb.

He's the famous b****ass ref who always grant United a penalty kick at Old Trafford whenever they need one.


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howard webb the ref? pffftt.. biased as usual..
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why this arsehole must be the ref 2nite?
rain is stopped & channel is clear now...
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I feel so angry with the referee.
MU bribe is it?
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unable to see..rain..huhu..

Half Time???
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why this arsehole must be the ref 2nite?
rain is stopped & channel is clear now...
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Half time ...Kudos to the Boys. Whatever the end scoreline will be, they played with their heart and soul.
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torres was sooooo pissed off with howard webb!!..1st time i'd seen him angry like that!
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I think we should really not blame the ref too much. Come on guys, we have to do better than that first half if we want to win.
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Valencia is getting the better of his marker, Nani sprayed some cross from left into the box.

Liverpool defenders is hoofing the ball forward. Midfield always pass to right flank where Torres drifted wide AND nobody in the box. Steve G is playing poorly.

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i miss last year's ref during playing at OT..

other than that.. we look shite on the scoreboard..

attempts on target ratio.. united is clearly better
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insua raped time and time again..

carra too need to be careful..

either benny or babel will come in later on.
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haiz..lucas..lucas.. shakehead.gif gerrard.. sweat.gif

i think we r now need some1 like babel or benny to 'act' like nani's approach..

torres & masch.. sweat.gif control ur anger plz..

mad.gif that ref. ah.. vmad.gif
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I actually thought my heart stopped beating for a second there. Sigh - Reina blocked it but for it to bounce back to Rooney - argh...
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Bad refereeing tonite...
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masch... sigh... no comment.

he cant passing, he cant run... but he is hard working and nag too much sometimes...

good n bad...

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Not blame ref? It wasnt a penalty.

Fukkin Valencia just tlong jumped into the penalty box as soon as contact was made 5 yards away.

If Howard Webb is not a b****, then he's surely one heck of a poor referee!
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I actually thought my heart stopped beating for a second there. Sigh - Reina blocked it but for it to bounce back to Rooney - argh...
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It was unlucky
A spot on save from Reina
Only to be bounced off in the wrong direction

God i love Reina rclxm9.gif


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And Masch better shut up. Don't need a red card here...
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Park is getting more space wei doh.gif
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webb is f*rk! isk isk...
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Even Maxi is pissed.. is he(webb) trying to provoke the kop to get themselves book.
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wtf? that should be a yellow on valencia... clearly loses out already.. tackle from behind... the heck!
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Like I said, Park getting more space n now he scores, duh.... doh.gif
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park goal *shakes head*
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should've cut out fletcher before he got the ball...
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Even when Maxi is down

We dnt even get the match to stop for the moment sweat.gif


Come one Red Men it aint over yet!
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freaking sad ..now........ but then again good goal from Park..
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Added on March 21, 2010, 11:03 pmNOT EVEN A YELLOW CARD ON FLETCHER?!

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y maxi is playing on the left?he play well on the right..as usually..benitez piss the team off...
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fark la rafa.. totally wrong tactic... maxi running like headless chicken.. kuyt too direct.. gerrard? is he in the game at all?
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What i think its gonna happen

Maxi Out
Aqua In

Stevie to take Maxi Place
And Aqua to play behind Torres

Edit: Woot im wrong!

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againts lille and posmth we plays great with maxi and babel on both wing..kuyt keep giving the ball away..and aquallani?ahhhhhhh...benitez is a crap!

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liv getting frustrated... come on... control the ball la weh
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post Mar 21 2010, 11:25 PM

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mid table team performance from a supposed 'top 4' team
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Torres didn't make good use of the chances he had..
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stupid team man today zzz
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QUOTE(Tupperwarez @ Mar 21 2010, 11:31 PM)
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post Mar 21 2010, 11:32 PM

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well.. can't say much. i think Rafa got it wrong at the start because he started with a more defensive approach rather than attacking. After torres scores, i thought it'd be ok but the penalty really changed the game. reina made a good save but rooney acted faster. damn!

no use to blame the ref. Gerrard was invisible. so was lucas and masha. MU mid pwned urs.
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this is bullshit..

we've only won once against a top 4 team.. only chelsea left and i wont bother to watch..

even arsenal is better and their in the top3 >.<
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QUOTE(Tupperwarez @ Mar 21 2010, 11:31 PM)
Exactly what i expect from a manc
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the way fletcher kicks dykt ....and he got away free??!!

referee 2 - liv 1
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the team playing fairly decent.. its alright.

shame torres didnt convert the chances.. IMHO the subs came in a bit late. should be sooner.
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Lulz that was fast

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it's a good performance from our lad...i dont feel the lost...just one or two player that not perform well....
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QUOTE(turtles_inc @ Mar 21 2010, 11:25 PM)
mid table team performance from a supposed 'top 4' team
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plenty of sloppiness but man utd midfielders played more aggressive approach which won them the game.

QUOTE(rururun @ Mar 21 2010, 11:28 PM)
Torres didn't make good use of the chances he had..
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that mis-Q was vital.
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http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-l...e-always-lucky/

Ferguson: Liverpool are always lucky
Sir Alex Ferguson is hoping Manchester United are one day as "lucky" as Liverpool in their dealings with the FA.

Ferguson launched a bitter attack on the FA's disciplinary panel after Steven Gerrard was cleared to face United at Old Trafford on Sunday despite being involved in two high-profile incidents it was felt could land him in hot water with the game's authorities.

Instead, no action was taken following an alleged abusive gesture during the Reds' defeat at Wigan last week and then a poor challenge on Portsmouth's Michael Brown at Anfield on Monday.

Given Rio Ferdinand received a four-match ban less than two months ago for an attack on Hull forward Craig Fagan, Ferguson feels Liverpool are benefiting from an advantage he wishes his own team could get.

"We know that," responded Ferguson when it was pointed out Gerrard was not the first Liverpool player to benefit from non-action by the FA as Javier Mascherano also escaped censure for a similar incident in a Carling Cup tie against Leeds earlier this season.

"They do all right with that. They are lucky with that.

"It happens. Maybe in some years we will get lucky too. Who knows?"

A long-time critic of the FA's handling of disciplinary matters, Ferguson claims to no longer care about their handling of individual issues.

Clearly though, the Scot is perturbed.

"I didn't expect them to be charging Steven Gerrard simply because I think it is a dysfunctional unit, the FA," he said.

"I don't think they know what they are doing.

"There is no consistency for a start. I didn't expect to get any.

"I am not too bothered about it. They can do what they want down there. It is crazy at times."

Ferguson does have an answer, which involves what he feels would be a valuable contribution from the many experienced fellow managers who currently find themselves out of work.

"For many years the League Managers' Association have tried to have an input," he said.

"You have maybe 20 redundant managers with good experience and good knowledge of the game who have played the game. They could be involved in that.

"It would save a fortune because you cannot imagine what it is costing to run that FA disciplinary operation down in London."

It is unlikely Ferguson will be contacted by the FA for a further explanation, although should they do so it would come after Sunday's clash of the north-west titans.

As United are looking to maintain their present position at the Premier League summit, Ferguson is desperate to end a three-match losing streak - all of which have included the dismissal of Nemanja Vidic - at the hands of Rafael Benitez.

At the start of the season, Liverpool were tipped as championship-winning material.

However, instead of building on their second-placed finish last term, Benitez's men have crumbled, not even certain to claim a Champions League spot.

Not that Ferguson is entirely surprised.

"Liverpool had an exceptional season last year. They hit a peak.

"They did very well and got a run going.

"When you get consistency and form it helps you but I felt it would be difficult for them to achieve that again."

Ferguson is reluctant to describe himself as having sympathy for Benitez's plight.

However, having run into trouble in mid-season by the loss of nearly all his key defenders, the United boss is sympathetic to the view Liverpool would have been far stronger this term had star man Fernando Torres managed to stay fit.

"The word sympathy is a bit strong," he said.

"You feel for any manager who doesn't do well.

"But Rafa was right when he said if Torres has been available all season the gap would have been smaller.

"He is a top player. When you don't have your top players you don't get top results.

"It happened to us when all our defenders were injured. What do you expect?"

United have Ryan Giggs available this weekend after the veteran Welshman recovered from the broken hand he suffered at Aston Villa last month


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we r liverpool fc fans..and we already get used to lost...n that y we alwiz said " thats ok... and sooo on.."....we are getting pathetic every season...
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oh.. howard webb is manc twat. that neville c*unt high boots on maxi should be a foul ffs.

good bye CL..
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QUOTE(ADVedder @ Mar 21 2010, 11:35 PM)
http://www.espnstar.com/football/premier-l...e-always-lucky/

Ferguson: Liverpool are always lucky
Sir Alex Ferguson is hoping Manchester United are one day as "lucky" as Liverpool in their dealings with the FA.

Ferguson launched a bitter attack on the FA's disciplinary panel after Steven Gerrard was cleared to face United at Old Trafford on Sunday despite being involved in two high-profile incidents it was felt could land him in hot water with the game's authorities.

Instead, no action was taken following an alleged abusive gesture during the Reds' defeat at Wigan last week and then a poor challenge on Portsmouth's Michael Brown at Anfield on Monday.

Given Rio Ferdinand received a four-match ban less than two months ago for an attack on Hull forward Craig Fagan, Ferguson feels Liverpool are benefiting from an advantage he wishes his own team could get.

"We know that," responded Ferguson when it was pointed out Gerrard was not the first Liverpool player to benefit from non-action by the FA as Javier Mascherano also escaped censure for a similar incident in a Carling Cup tie against Leeds earlier this season.

"They do all right with that. They are lucky with that.

"It happens. Maybe in some years we will get lucky too. Who knows?"

A long-time critic of the FA's handling of disciplinary matters, Ferguson claims to no longer care about their handling of individual issues.

Clearly though, the Scot is perturbed.

"I didn't expect them to be charging Steven Gerrard simply because I think it is a dysfunctional unit, the FA," he said.

"I don't think they know what they are doing.

"There is no consistency for a start. I didn't expect to get any.

"I am not too bothered about it. They can do what they want down there. It is crazy at times."

Ferguson does have an answer, which involves what he feels would be a valuable contribution from the many experienced fellow managers who currently find themselves out of work.

"For many years the League Managers' Association have tried to have an input," he said.

"You have maybe 20 redundant managers with good experience and good knowledge of the game who have played the game. They could be involved in that.

"It would save a fortune because you cannot imagine what it is costing to run that FA disciplinary operation down in London."

It is unlikely Ferguson will be contacted by the FA for a further explanation, although should they do so it would come after Sunday's clash of the north-west titans.

As United are looking to maintain their present position at the Premier League summit, Ferguson is desperate to end a three-match losing streak - all of which have included the dismissal of Nemanja Vidic - at the hands of Rafael Benitez.

At the start of the season, Liverpool were tipped as championship-winning material.

However, instead of building on their second-placed finish last term, Benitez's men have crumbled, not even certain to claim a Champions League spot.

Not that Ferguson is entirely surprised.

"Liverpool had an exceptional season last year. They hit a peak.

"They did very well and got a run going.

"When you get consistency and form it helps you but I felt it would be difficult for them to achieve that again."

Ferguson is reluctant to describe himself as having sympathy for Benitez's plight.

However, having run into trouble in mid-season by the loss of nearly all his key defenders, the United boss is sympathetic to the view Liverpool would have been far stronger this term had star man Fernando Torres managed to stay fit.

"The word sympathy is a bit strong," he said.

"You feel for any manager who doesn't do well.

"But Rafa was right when he said if Torres has been available all season the gap would have been smaller.

"He is a top player. When you don't have your top players you don't get top results.

"It happened to us when all our defenders were injured. What do you expect?"

United have Ryan Giggs available this weekend after the veteran Welshman recovered from the broken hand he suffered at Aston Villa last month
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After seeing Aquilani for the first time, now i really see why some of you guys are pissed Benitez doesn't play him that often. Aquilani's touches really put me on the edge @_@
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Its partly Rafa fault for starting with his favourite Lucas Shit and Dirk Kuyt while leaving Benayoun, Babel and Aqualani on the bench.
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yeah.. wonder when is the prince ready for regular place..

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Sigh... Stevie is really not in the game for me, Masch as usual - too much noise, insufficient actions, and well, Torres really missed out the most important shot of all.

Still - a loss is a loss. MU was running all over the field - Johnson just keep missing his mark. Good game for Insua and Carragher for me.

YNWA people.
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QUOTE(befitozi @ Mar 21 2010, 11:37 PM)
After seeing Aquilani for the first time, now i really see why some of you guys are pissed Benitez doesn't play him that often. Aquilani's touches really put me on the edge @_@
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This is what happens in Liverpool, they play good as a sub and when he gets the start, flop happens.
Seen it enough already.
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rafa did a terrible mistakes by fielding a defensive minded team. and why maxi rodriguez playing on the center? he should be on the right wing supplying the ball to torres. rafa expecting gerrard can handle rio, vidic, carrick alone?
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aqua man damn good leh... after he comes in, there were a lot of chances created. really la... wtf is wrong with rafa?
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My vote for MOTM

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I am becoming more and more frustrated at Rafa
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QUOTE(Tupperwarez @ Mar 21 2010, 11:39 PM)
My vote for MOTM

Reina  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(papabear @ Mar 21 2010, 11:38 PM)
rafa did a terrible mistakes by fielding a defensive minded team. and why maxi rodriguez playing on the center? he should be on the right wing supplying the ball to torres. rafa expecting gerrard can handle rio, vidic, carrick alone?
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He fielded a defensive team at Anfield and we won.
Really shouldnt be putting the blame game on again. Its too obvious our players were not up for it tonight.
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QUOTE(Tupperwarez @ Mar 21 2010, 11:39 PM)
My vote for MOTM

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Nothing much i can say...with those tactic, Rafa should go at the end of this season...
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the end of liverpool. no cl, no torres. thanks rafa.
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QUOTE(leftist @ Mar 21 2010, 11:40 PM)
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I'd go for Webb...
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QUOTE(rushmode @ Mar 21 2010, 11:36 PM)
oh.. howard webb is manc twat. that neville c*unt high boots on maxi should be a foul ffs.

good bye CL..
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Torres high boot on Ferdinand? But that doesn't matter since it's Torres eh?
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QUOTE(kcmy @ Mar 21 2010, 11:41 PM)
I'd go for Webb...
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haihzzz....if it is ngog who miss the chances, sure will be bashed. But torres, everybody kept quiet.

Overall I think we play ok and if torres convert the chances the result maybe different. I am really disappointed with his behaviour today. Agger very poor today, kuyt seems no creativity at all and Rafa subs him showed that he is poor except the assist. Johnson take too long time on the ball and somebody has to remind him that he's not a striker so just keep the dribbling and for god sake, just cross the ball and keep it simple.

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