It is now waiting for the right time to be launched. So, my take is early next month.

Matyeo,

I really enjoyed reading your post on Pioneer THX certified AMP setting on normal speakers.

Do you know if this magic will work on VSX-LX52? The amp is THX Select 2 Certified

All,

For all those using their KRPs, 428s and 508s for Astro or broadcast channels, turn on ur DRE. This is because on most broadcast material I am seeing a lot of WTW signals. The Kuros clip whites above 240 (KRPs) and 248 (8Gs), as such u will lose details in the bright whites. With DRE, u get all the way till 253.

Ditto

Thanks bro... of course as long as your pioneer AVR got THX logo that mean you can
used THX speakers setting to calibrate your system,
and you can enjoy new experience with THX...
LX-52 THX select 2 plus accly...
better than my previous avr VSX-ax2as (THX select 2)...

Maybe KAYROLL also can try this setting on his LX-82....

This post has been edited by matyeo: May 23 2010, 11:25 PM

Awesome.... I just got the Monster THX speaker cables (100ft) yesterday. Getting there....

Which model and how much?

Voila~

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1087805

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Added on May 25, 2010, 2:58 pmThx. Wow, so you're THX Ultra2 from your LX82 system. How big is your room?

This post has been edited by serendipity168: May 25 2010, 02:58 PM

U guys r really confusing me....THX Ultra2 is a DSP. Do u mean to say that u enjoy the THX processing instead of the listening to the original codecs?

Do u feel its better?

Some excerpts :

THX Ultra2

THX Ultra2 Certified products bring the cinematic experience to larger home theaters, 3,000 cubic feet in size, with a viewing distance of 12 feet or greater from the screen.



"THX Select2 addresses the needs of the newest generation of home entertainment enthusiasts, those who crave immersive DVD, music and video games experiences, but don't always require the full benefits of a large, dedicated home theater environment. THX Select2 will be used in THX Certified products that are designed for small to medium-sized residential rooms. By contrast, THX Ultra2 is designed for the acoustics of larger, dedicated home theater environments. Both certification programs require manufacturers to build products that meet or exceed the THX standards for presentation excellence, and include such THX features as timbre matching, bass management, adaptive decorrelation and re-equalization (Re-EQ™)."

and more info here :

http://www.thx.com/consumer/home-entertainment/home-theater/

Thanks htkaki. I spent a lot of time on "THX" products about 3 yrs ago. My own interpretation was that is is pure marketing. While I believe it started off correctly, in recent years, THX certification on audio/video is questionable. Getting the certification is something like ISO certification. Those who have been thru that will realise what it takes. A lot of documentation but does it matter?

Some come to mind, THX never gives an absolute number for black levels. Yet, on some THX certified Pannys the black level rise is clear. How could that have been possible?

My take on Ultra2, is more powerful amplifier with some controlled numbers for distortion.

Have to agree on that. Even the cheap PC spkrs also get certified. I have yet to try out Ultra 2 but those really high end brands seldom have THX certification. The THX std has been often more than a marketing gimmick to me and not to mention the extra premium that one needs to pay.

If one is to apply a pure THX standard for his/her HT room, it would have cost a bomb to do so here.

Guys,

Interesting discussion. Here's what I found on the net:

THX CERTIFIED AV RECEIVERS

THX Certified Receivers are the centerpiece for great home audio systems. THX certification ensures that receivers can truly unlock the power of surround sound and deliver crystal clear movie, music and game experiences to your home theater or media room. By definition, a receiver is the combination of a pre-amplifier and a power amplifier.

Pre-Amplifier:
A THX Certified Pre-Amplifier not only goes through rigorous performance tests, but also embeds THX patented technology features. Through various combinations, these features are used in THX Listening Modes to give you the best possible playback experience - correcting acoustic errors that occur in the translation of content from the movie studio to your home.

Power Amplifier:
A THX Certified Power Amplifier is put through a series of performance tests that addresses items such as low noise, distortion, crosstalk, high output current and voltage. In addition, THX has interoperability requirements such as gain structure, sensitivity, loading and output. A THX Certified Power Amplifier works with any pre-amplifier and speaker system however, when used with other THX Certified components, you are assured of seamless compatibility.

How to validate? Ummm....comments from existing owners?

A well designed audio product will meet all the requirements as it is common engineering sense.

Most if not all high end manufacturers (small or big) will design their amps to meet low noise, distortion etc...

My room only 10x10, i know if we want to set up the real THX room we need to spend a lot of
money and we need a THX sound engineer to do calibration......and i know who i'm....

agree with HTkaki...3000 cubfeet room and cost very high ( not my level)

i want to tell everybody here that i have experience someting new while playing movie using THX
speaker setting...
this is for pioneer amp only, last time i owned onkyo 876 (THX ultra 2 plus) but sound not
like pioneer , i sell back within 1 week
i bought LX-82 becoz of THX and HD sound.....
very powerfull sound pressure using only cikai2 equipment....hehehehe

i read someting about pioneer THX see attch below...

This post has been edited by matyeo: May 26 2010, 03:15 AM


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sifus,
i have question. if we connect USB headset like logitech G35 to the USB port.(pioneer vsx1019) will it works. have any anyone try it out.
i playing game and watch movie late nite. need to care other ppl sleep.

Out of curiosity what speakers are u using?

The 876 with Audyssey is pretty beefy. The power rating on that is pretty high. While I do not doubt that the LX82 is a very good amp with ICE implementation, it really depends on the speakers u r trying to drive. I suspect that ur speakers were probably were better driven by the LX due to the amplification portion. While there can never be too much power, the danger with lesser designed speakers with a novice enthusiasts is blown drivers.

Pioneer makes good products, I don't deny that, but I am not sure that the Onkyo is a pushover when it comes to raw power.

The LX series is well engineered and in my opinion the only thing I do not like about the Pios is MCACC. I have not heard the plus in action, but I think the Audyssey is a better implementation (this is purely my opinion based on MCACC and not MCACC plus). PQLS if paired with a player that has PQLS will help with jitter correction.

My opinion is that Pioneer designed a good product using THX guidelines, but take a look at the THX guidelines, as I said earlier, this is common engineering sense. Any good audio design engineer will adhere to it. What THX certification helps to do is enable the manufacturer to put it in as a marketing plus. Zero feedback (hiss reduction) , low distortion are bread and butter for the big audio guys.

I have to try this and make an honest comparison one day. Also use this to compare the results of MCACC vs Audyssey.

Anyone willing to lend me one to compare?

I'm far away from penang......if not i can let u to test.....anyway this LX82 quite heavy.....around 20kg......

what about this...audyssey only take around 5-10 minute to calibrate system and i dont know
what audyssey doing just sounding boing...boing... MCACC 25-30 minute to calibrate
your system, it will detect every single speaker that you connected, mcacc know capability of your
speakers include sub .....
so i think MCACC going details than audyssey...one more things EQ setting for audyssey
manual better then auto....MCACC ..you can enjoy what it calibrated to you without
fine tune....

if you near by my place Bangi you can come to audition LX performance .....

anyway ...my speaker only cikai one...all polk audio except for sub...jbl 12"...

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Added on May 26, 2010, 3:34 pmbro...maybe you should try THX speaker setting...now its time becoz you already enjoy
normal setting, you will feel the different....

pm me if got time....

This post has been edited by matyeo: May 26 2010, 03:35 PM

Audyssey normally takes 7 channels + sub and 8 points shd take about 20mins or more. The "boing boing" is used to get the -3dB xover point of ur speaker to set xover, distance (delay) and trims. Then it sets the filters in place to reduce the peaks and valleys. EQ is then automatic.

Fine tuning ability in MCACC advance is interesting as u can set additional curves. Audyssey has that but Onkyo's implementation does not allow that. Denon's higher end implementation allows that.

Anyway, this is not a thread about MCACC vs Audyssey. I'm happy that u enjoy ur MCACC calibrated system. Cheers.

One of these days, I will get a chance to audition and check the post correction of Audyssey vs MCACC Advance/Plus and I will post the FR charts. Till then, enjoy ur system!