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post Mar 21 2011, 03:58 PM

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post Mar 21 2011, 05:30 PM

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I'm one of the public mutual agent since 2008 but I'm not active in it and my FMUTM license had expired since 2009. May I ask can I renew my license since it had inactive for a long period.
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post Mar 22 2011, 10:05 PM

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PUBLIC GLOBAL SELECT FUND (PGSF)
Promotion Period : 21 March 2011 to 18 April 2011



Special Service Charges during Promotion Period

Enjoy special service charges for investments into PGSF during the promotion period.

Investment amount per transaction / Promotion | Special Service Charge
RM5,000 to RM9,999 per transaction | 5.25%*
RM10,000 and above per transaction | 5.00%*
Direct Debit Instruction (DDI) submitted during Promotion Period | 5.25%**

URL: http://www.publicmutual.com.my/page.aspx?n...rls_110321_0830
wsSNRinit
post Mar 24 2011, 12:26 AM

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I know nothing about this Mutual Fund. but, I have signed up PSDF RM 5,000

1. Is the 5.5% charges , one time charge or per annum ?
2. How can I monitor its price ? How can I pump in $$ to this fund when I wanted via ONLINE ?

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post Mar 24 2011, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(wsSNRinit @ Mar 24 2011, 12:26 AM)
I know nothing about this Mutual Fund. but, I have signed up PSDF RM 5,000

1. Is the 5.5% charges , one time charge or per annum ?
2. How can I monitor its price ?  How can I pump in $$ to this fund when I wanted via ONLINE ?

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1) The 5.5% charge is based on the amount you put in the fund only. There is no other service charge.

2) You can monitor the price here.
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post Mar 24 2011, 12:46 AM

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Just to add,
There is 1.5% management fee, which is deducted out from the fund NAV/price.
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post Mar 24 2011, 01:01 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 24 2011, 12:46 AM)
Just to add,
There is 1.5% management fee, which is deducted out from the fund NAV/price.
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True, but it is already deducted from the NAV price.

For tracking, one has to simply compare it to the original NAV price (minus 5.5% charge) and the current NAV price. No further 1.5% deduction required. What you see in the current NAV price is what you will get cash-out.

In practise, the 1.5% management fee can be ignored.

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post Mar 24 2011, 01:04 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 24 2011, 12:46 AM)
Just to add,
There is 1.5% management fee, which is deducted out from the fund NAV/price.
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the 1.5% management fee is charged annually right? the 5.5% is charged whenever u purchase additional units.
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post Mar 24 2011, 01:07 AM

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QUOTE(Nidz @ Mar 24 2011, 01:04 AM)
the 1.5% management fee is charged annually right? the 5.5% is charged whenever u purchase additional units.
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Ignore the 1.5% (or whatever) management fee - it is already built-in (already deducted) from the NAV price. The NAV price is what you see and what you get.

You are only interested in what you actually get, which is the NAV.

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QUOTE(howszat @ Mar 24 2011, 01:07 AM)
Ignore the 1.5% (or whatever) management fee - it is already built-in (already deducted) from the NAV price. The NAV price is what you see and what you get.

You are only interested in what you actually get, which is the NAV.
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Yup, but the understanding of it is a must.
Without management fee, the NAV is 1.5% higher than what we see.
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post Mar 24 2011, 01:20 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 24 2011, 01:11 AM)
Yup, but the understanding of it is a must.
Without management fee, the NAV is 1.5% higher than what we see.
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May I disagree?

Using the following, some sort of extreme example:

Fund Manager A): 10% management fee, 5% to me.

Fund Manager B): 0.5% management fee, 0.1% to me.

Manager B is "cheaper", but I prefer Fund Manager A.

In other words, I'm only interested in the net returns.


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QUOTE(howszat @ Mar 24 2011, 01:20 AM)
May I disagree?

Using the following, some sort of extreme example:

Fund Manager A): 10% management fee, 5% to me.

Fund Manager B): 0.5% management fee, 0.1% to me.

Manager B is "cheaper", but I prefer Fund Manager A.

In other words, I'm only interested in the net returns.
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What I meant is not choosing based on management fee charges.
Some hedge fund charge extra-ordinary management and profit sharing if they perform.

This is not what I want to highlight.
What I want to highlight is that, there is charges being imposed on your fund constantly aka the 1.5 management fee.

I am not talking about the performance issue, unrelated, I just want to highlight so that people understanding on the fund charges issue, for the sake of education purposes.
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Sure, understanding there is a charge. Also need to understand how the fund performs in relation to the charges. Both go hand-in-hand.

I understand your point. But I also want to point out that not low charges = good, and high (or any) charges = bad.
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post Mar 24 2011, 07:46 AM

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Your UT Agent supposed to explain to you whatever your enquiry.
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post Mar 24 2011, 07:48 AM

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Mod, please merge this thread into existing Public Mutual thread.
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post Mar 24 2011, 10:46 PM

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Is Public Select Dividend Fund a good fund ?
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QUOTE(David83 @ Mar 24 2011, 07:48 AM)
Mod, please merge this thread into existing Public Mutual thread.
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Is there any other PM thread other than this?
could you show the light?
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post Mar 25 2011, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Mar 24 2011, 01:46 AM)
Just to add,
There is 1.5% management fee, which is deducted out from the fund NAV/price.
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When will this management fee charge?
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post Mar 25 2011, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(rstusa @ Mar 25 2011, 12:18 AM)
When will this management fee charge?
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Daily, but you will see the total charged in the annual report. The amount charged is usually quite substantial most of times equivalent to the dividend and interest received. Usually 1.5% management and other charges like offices expense, trustees, printing, audit etc will bring the fees to about 1.8% - 2.0% of asset. There are other hidden charges such as transaction fees, soft commission, brokerage etc which can bring the fees up another 0.5% -1% depending on their turnover. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 25 2011, 10:08 AM)
Daily, but you will see the total charged in the annual report. The amount charged is usually quite substantial most of times equivalent to the dividend and interest received.  Usually 1.5% management and other charges like offices expense, trustees, printing, audit etc will bring the fees to about 1.8% - 2.0% of asset. There are other hidden charges such as transaction fees, soft commission, brokerage etc which can bring the fees up another 0.5% -1% depending on their turnover. laugh.gif
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As the details shown below, beside the 5.5% charges, for example, I bought a fund on 1st JAN with initial amount RM1000, after 5.5% become RM945, let's say for the year the fund didn't gain any profit, the 1.56% (1.50% + 0.06%) will deduct my fund (RM945-1.56%) on 31st Dec every year?

Service Charge Up to 5.5% of NAV per unit
Repurchase Charge NIL
Annual Management Fee 1.5% per annum of the NAV
Annual Trustee Fee 0.06% per annum of NAV, subject to a minimum fee of RM18,000 and a maximum fee of RM450,000 per annum.

You're quite familiar with the charges of funds. Did you work with any fund managers before or you're one of the fund manager?

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