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post Mar 24 2011, 12:39 AM

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QUOTE(wsSNRinit @ Mar 24 2011, 12:26 AM)
I know nothing about this Mutual Fund. but, I have signed up PSDF RM 5,000

1. Is the 5.5% charges , one time charge or per annum ?
2. How can I monitor its price ?  How can I pump in $$ to this fund when I wanted via ONLINE ?

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1) The 5.5% charge is based on the amount you put in the fund only. There is no other service charge.

2) You can monitor the price here.
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post Apr 4 2011, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(earthling1984 @ Apr 4 2011, 12:11 AM)
Ok, i just need to know some facts. Any investor here made net profit from the funds? If yes, how much? Percentage, years you took and which fund...

I've started 6 months ago, monthly investment into pbgf, indon, n china funds...So far losing money, doubting its future...as now already on the 'high' side...That's what ppl say la...

Need some advice...
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My investor makes a net 10% return over half year of investment in PEF.
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post Apr 4 2011, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(earthling1984 @ Apr 4 2011, 01:09 AM)
Good job. so you're an agent? Any advice for me? Maintain the funds or switch?
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yes, I am an agent. Which funds have you invested in?
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post Apr 4 2011, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(earthling1984 @ Apr 4 2011, 07:10 PM)
pbgf, pbindobf n pbcaef...losing money...=(
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How long have you invested in those funds?
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post Apr 4 2011, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(earthling1984 @ Apr 4 2011, 10:48 PM)
bout 6 months..
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Based on here for a half year investment, Pbgf is getting a total return of 6.15%, which means you are starting to make a net return of 0.65% (6.15%-5.5%). However, things look bleak for Pbindobf as from the chart, it is still making -0.44% return, and this translates to a -5.94% return from your investment. For Pbcaef, it looks just slighty better with 2.42% gross return.

I can give you some advice, but in the end it still depends on what's your risk appetite, how long you are willing to invest, and your preference over investment portfolio (local or overseas funds). For your situation, the reason you choose both China and Indonesia fund is because you are interested in these two overseas market, am I right? If that's the case, then you have 2 choices: first, to continue your investment in these funds if you believe overseas markets will have a strong growth in the coming years, or switch over to other lower risk investment, such as local funds.

For me, I will usually advise my investors to go for funds with good track records (such as PEF, PDSF, PFSF, PITTIKAL, etc).
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post Apr 7 2011, 01:48 AM

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QUOTE(earthling1984 @ Apr 7 2011, 01:26 AM)
Well, what do you personally think of those 2 funds? CHina n indon...Will u advise that i switch it to the ones u mention above?


Added on April 7, 2011, 1:28 am

good for u, as i'm losing now, but i've only put in for 6 months...considering whether to switch or not
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It's actually depends on what you think of those market, and this is quite subjective due to the fact that China and Indonesia are new funds which none of us can do too much analysis about it. A good previous example is that during the beginning of Public Mutual's award-winning "Public Smallcap Fund": on the first 18 months of the fund, the performance is not good, with approximately -4% return for the investors, but guess what? Investors start making money thereafter, and reap hefty profits from the investment.

As for myself, I have invested a small amount in China market, previously losing money but recently the fund start to make some return. The fact is that I'm also facing a similar dilemma just like you, wondering whether I should continue investing in the fund. sweat.gif
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post Apr 7 2011, 02:20 PM

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QUOTE(earthling1984 @ Apr 7 2011, 01:03 PM)
LOL...well, i guess just hafto wait n see la. Maybe will reduce the amount invested...=)


Added on April 7, 2011, 1:04 pm

Yeah, that's y i said it's only 6 months. So hafto wait longer to see what happens. But might wanna reduce a bit coz now on the down side...
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Invest for long term then should be okay geh wink.gif
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post Apr 7 2011, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(pingubabe @ Apr 7 2011, 09:17 PM)
icon_question.gif What about PBGF? I went to pbe yesterday. The agent adviced me that this is a potential fund.  blush.gif
Sorry kinda new to unit trust. Just starting to gain some info on this before investing.

Thanks so much.. notworthy.gif
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You can check its performance here, and through past performance and personal analysis from The Edge, PBGF is among of the most performing funds for Public Bank.
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post Apr 14 2011, 02:34 PM

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Public Smallcap Fund open for investment again!!
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post Apr 14 2011, 02:56 PM

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Haven't announce in web but as an agent I got firsthand news from the company directly tongue.gif
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post Apr 14 2011, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(mois @ Apr 14 2011, 03:10 PM)
i just ask my agent and he told me the same thing. Open on 18th april. Problem is, we are not allowed to switch from current bond/equities into public small cap right? If i sell current fund, when i buy back i have to waste 5.5% charge again sad.gif. This is by far the best fund so far from public mutual right? 10years performance is like 425%, mean 42.5% per year?  shocking.gif
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Yeap, but to me I think its worth the charge since the fund performance is quite outstanding and is so far the best performing fund among all unit trust in Malaysia. The previous time of its reopening only valid for two days only wink.gif
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post Apr 15 2011, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Apr 15 2011, 10:44 AM)
Guys, how to invest in this PM unit trust fund?

how much is the minimum investment?

Is it risky or reliable?

How much is the interest rate? above 5%?  drool.gif
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Just sign up with an agent, and minimum investment is RM1,000.

Based on past performance, the CAGR (Compounded Annual Growth Rate) for most local equities are above 5%.
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post Apr 15 2011, 02:37 PM

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QUOTE(twhong_91 @ Apr 15 2011, 11:57 AM)
I see. Is it considered as a risky investment or a reliable investment?
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There is risk with any sort of investment, but it is reliable as the funds are professionally managed by fund managers.
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post Apr 17 2011, 01:11 AM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Apr 16 2011, 02:39 PM)
CAGR of 5%++ is way low which could only on par or even worse than EPF return!? For equities, you should aim for more than 8% to 9% to beat the benchmark KLCI index, otherwise you are getting low risk adjusted return which means it not worth the risk taking to get such a low return.
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5% is a safe rate of quoting CAGR, but top performing funds in Public Mutual are around the range of 10~15% CAGR wink.gif
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post Apr 18 2011, 12:50 AM

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QUOTE(kinwing @ Apr 17 2011, 01:01 PM)
Do not turn away to just mention about the top performing funds in Public Mutual by covering the fact that it does consist of inferior funds. Since Public Mutual has alot of funds, it could have few well performed funds, but after adding all those average or underpeformed funds, it could just achieve as what you mentioned a 5% CAGR only (in Global Investment Performance Standard, we called it as a composite return).

Please be more objective when talking about the fund returns of a fund management company instead of doing marketing pitch by highlighting only the top performance funds.
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There are indeed underperforming funds, but most of them are newly launched funds which are not able to perform now, but that doesn't strike out the possibility of them performing in the near future. A good example for this scenario is Public SmallCap Fund.

And by the way, the first thing investors usually ask will be which are the performing funds, and as an unit trust consultant, my job is to highlight those top performing funds to them.

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post Apr 20 2011, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(kenjen @ Apr 20 2011, 10:19 AM)
No, am not an agent. Heard from a friend of mine saying his agent told him Public SmallCap is re-opened since 18-April-2011. Surprisingly, when I check Public Mutual's website there are no such announcement. Makes me wondering whether the news is real or not. I suppose I should make a call to Public Mutual to clarify.
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I have submitted few investments for my investors and I can verify you that SmallCap fund is indeed reopen for investment, though I'm not sure for how long.
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post May 5 2011, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(jutamind @ May 4 2011, 10:37 PM)
to me this is just a public mutual to promote their latest bond fund, xxx strategic bond fund. that's why they close a lot of existing bond funds and you're force to buy the new fund.

just my 2 cents.
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The reason that those funds are closed from investment is because they reached the quota of the investment company subscribed from Securities Commission (SC), i.e. approved fund size = RM500m, then at around the size of RM450m, then they will close the fund (and perhaps apply for bigger fund size). It's not about forcing people to buy other funds though.
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post May 5 2011, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ May 5 2011, 02:10 PM)
I have 5 funds with Public Mutual ( under both PB and Public Series), and was told that all the funds under my portfolios are closed for subscription. Damn it. They shd annouce the fund closure in the website at least investors aware of it.

Cant really wait for PM to reopen the funds, as they may close forever, even they open they will impose some funny rules, like
i) Small cap fund, strictly for new injected funds, no switching is allowed, and it only open for few days.
ii) P Enhanced Bond and P Islamic Enhanced Bond, when they reopen they impose min investment (both additional/ initial) of RM100K

I guess PM is doing very well recently, i checked the http://my.morningstar.com website (an independent website that trace unit trust performance), for the top 10 funds ranked by 3 months performance, PM have 8 funds out of 10 in the list, Good Job!!
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One of the reasons that Smallcap is only open for newly injected fund is cause the fund manager wants to control the volume of the incoming money. If switching is allowed, you can imagine what problem can arise when most investors switching their shift their exiting investment into smallcap.
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post Jun 8 2011, 05:21 PM

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QUOTE(overruled23 @ Jun 7 2011, 07:37 AM)
hye all, just wondering, once a distribution is declared, how long will it take for our account to show the amount? public ittikal distribution is 8 cents. that's good right? and last year they generated 20% return
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The distribution will be credited into the account in around 2 days after the distribution date.

QUOTE(debbieyss @ Jun 8 2011, 04:36 PM)
My agent told me he only gets 2.5% from the 5% service charge.
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Yes, agent will get around 2.5%
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post Jun 22 2011, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(overruled23 @ Jun 22 2011, 07:28 PM)
i have been wondering, since now public ittikal is no longer available for subscription, what other islamic fund is good for epf investment? ittikal is moderate risk so i dont mind investing in it. moreover, its performance is good. other funds look kind of aggresive and im afraid that if i were to invest in them, and market falls, my epf money gone like the wind..~~
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Perhaps try out Public Balanced Fund or Dividend Select Fund?

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