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SVS Owners Thread V2.0, New PB and PC DSP are here!
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ronaldjoe
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 Feb 11 2010, 11:58 AM
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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Feb 11 2010, 11:52 AM) I doubt the PB13 would distort, u don't have anything to worry about that. It has plenty of headroom. However, what I meant was that it would be hotter than the rest of the speakers. What can happen when it is too hot, is that it can muddle up the rest of the spectrum as it will take longer to decay. However, what's important is what u like...don't worry abt what I blabber. So enjoy ur sub.... Actually I find PB13 just adequate. Sub gain level is at 10 o'clock. May be I would need to run another sub. My fronts and center connected to xpa are overpowering the rest now. My pocket is 'kosong' and I am having space constraint to place another svs.  Or SB13 would be another better option. This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Feb 11 2010, 12:01 PM |
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klimal
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Feb 11 2010, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Feb 11 2010, 11:46 AM) Anfield sifu, I don't have SPL to test. But it sounds good to me. 1st audyssey run: sub trim -2db, manual setting 1db 2nd audyssey run: sub trim -3db, manual setting 0db I would rerun audyseey later as it was raining that time. Audyssey trims on other speakers were pretty consistent tho. There was one time, the volume was put at -10 for like an hour with "This is it". I didn't notice it until I looked at AVR. The sound was loud but clean and no distortion. Actually, reading thro' the post, ronaldjoe bumps up the sub gain by 3dB over the audyssey setting and not by 6dB. Hence the confusion I think! |
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jchong
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Feb 11 2010, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Feb 11 2010, 11:58 AM) Actually I find PB13 just adequate. Sub gain level is at 10 o'clock. May be I would need to run another sub. My fronts and center connected to xpa are overpowering the rest now. My pocket is 'kosong' and I am having space constraint to place another svs. Or SB13 would be another better option. Wah, PB13 only "just adequate"?!  And this is after +3dB hot right? That means you really like your bass strong. If you feel it's not enough then maybe you can try add another 1-2dB to the sub trim. Anyway, after you run Audyssey your fronts and center shouldn't overpower the rest. |
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ronnt88
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Feb 11 2010, 12:40 PM
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jchong... when's ur turn for svs?  |
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anfieldude
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Feb 11 2010, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE(klimal @ Feb 11 2010, 12:25 PM) Actually, reading thro' the post, ronaldjoe bumps up the sub gain by 3dB over the audyssey setting and not by 6dB. Hence the confusion I think! Yeah, my bad, read wrongly. 3dB is no problems. |
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jchong
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Feb 11 2010, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(ronnt88 @ Feb 11 2010, 12:40 PM) jchong... when's ur turn for svs? Still KIV at the moment. |
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ronaldjoe
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Feb 11 2010, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(jchong @ Feb 11 2010, 01:32 PM) Taukeh jchong is going to get SB16. Who knows... 
Added on February 11, 2010, 1:51 pmQUOTE(jchong @ Feb 11 2010, 12:36 PM) Wah, PB13 only "just adequate"?! And this is after +3dB hot right? That means you really like your bass strong. If you feel it's not enough then maybe you can try add another 1-2dB to the sub trim. Anyway, after you run Audyssey your fronts and center shouldn't overpower the rest. Not sure why. Or perhaps the sub is quite fast-paced and clean. It doesn't feel boomy and stressed out even when it's cranked loud. The feel is there but it comes and goes very fast. Quite different from other subs that I owned before. This post has been edited by ronaldjoe: Feb 11 2010, 01:52 PM |
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arremie
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Feb 11 2010, 03:07 PM
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turn off audyssey the bass will kick in. true enuf with my marantz.
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ronaldjoe
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Feb 11 2010, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 11 2010, 03:07 PM) turn off audyssey the bass will kick in. true enuf with my marantz. Okie bro. Will give it a try.  |
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JiauBoy
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Feb 11 2010, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 11 2010, 03:07 PM) turn off audyssey the bass will kick in. true enuf with my marantz. wanna try as well |
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anfieldude
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Feb 11 2010, 06:29 PM
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QUOTE(ronaldjoe @ Feb 11 2010, 01:44 PM) Taukeh jchong is going to get SB16. Who knows...
Added on February 11, 2010, 1:51 pmNot sure why. Or perhaps the sub is quite fast-paced and clean. It doesn't feel boomy and stressed out even when it's cranked loud. The feel is there but it comes and goes very fast. Quite different from other subs that I owned before. Its more accurate I believe. Boomy is a sign of a peak in the bass, not necessarily intended. U never know until u run a frequency chart. |
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anfieldude
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Feb 11 2010, 06:30 PM
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QUOTE(arremie @ Feb 11 2010, 03:07 PM) turn off audyssey the bass will kick in. true enuf with my marantz. U like it better this way? Was the bass that high to start with in the track? |
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arremie
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Feb 12 2010, 11:15 AM
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yup donno why when i use audyssey, flat or front the bass is so lame. no shaking impact from the sub. if i off or switch to preset then only i get those. not sure about denon but could give it a try n c.
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ronaldjoe
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Feb 12 2010, 02:33 PM
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Quote from AVS: QUOTE Good bye PB2/PLUS, HELLO PB13-ULTRA....
Hello folks. Just wanted to input on the greatness that is the PB13-ULTRA.I am the previously owner of a PB2/PLUS. So upgrading was going to be much harder this time. I really loved my PB2/PLUS. That beast could easily shake the entire house. But I was wanting more down low. Way down low.
So I contacted SVS and asked what would be better, Dual PB12-NSDs or one PB13-ULTRA. As usual SVS got back to me A.S.A.P. And as usual they gave me great advise without any strings attached. And this was on a Sunday! Where can you get that?
I took a gamble, sold the over 4 year old PB2/PLUS (for 750.00!) and ordered the PB13-ULTRA. Textured black, which goes best with kids, as I learned with the PB2/PLUS.
After what seemed like, an extended setup time, I found it's new home.
Same locale as the PB2/PLUS, but different orientation due to the front firing driver.
This thing is more of a beast in every way.Weighs at least 30lbs. more then the PB2/PLUS, and has a couple hundred more cubic inches on the inside. Moving it here there and yonder is quite the job, but worth it.
And all I keep saying is wow. I now know why SVS calls this driver musical.
But not only does it move some air, but it does it quickly and accurately. I cannot believe this thing even keeps up output wise with the PB2/PLUS. This beast bests the PB2/PLUS in upper bass output, JUST passes it in mid-bass, and trumps it in the sub-20 area. I am amazed that a 13in woofer kickes the snot out of my old dual - 12 drivers.
This thing is tight, accurate, loud, and down right mean.If you are on the fence, get off and take the plunge. The really low,low, low plunge...
Just my 2 cents, and thanks for letting me gush... |
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klimal
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Feb 12 2010, 03:26 PM
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I need to turn down the sub gain by at least a couple of dB from the one set by audyssey, whilst watching concerts for the bass to integrate well with the music. Otherwise, it seems to be playing separately and distinct from the music score.
For movies, need to crank up by 3 dB to really enjoy the slam. Is this appropriate ?
What about you guys?
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ronaldjoe
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Feb 12 2010, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(klimal @ Feb 12 2010, 03:26 PM) I need to turn down the sub gain by at least a couple of dB from the one set by audyssey, whilst watching concerts for the bass to integrate well with the music. Otherwise, it seems to be playing separately and distinct from the music score. For movies, need to crank up by 3 dB to really enjoy the slam. Is this appropriate ? What about you guys? How many db you mean? Let taukeh htkaki comment on this. |
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klimal
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Feb 12 2010, 04:07 PM
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My base setting is -5dB via audyssey and spl calibration.
For movies, crank up to -2dB. (locked in the avr)
For concerts, down to -7dB.
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arremie
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Feb 12 2010, 04:17 PM
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if u properly set ur sub using audyssey so that the db fall between -3 to +3 db then u wouldn't have this problem. once ur sub got tuned properly then only proceed with final round of tuning for the rest of speakers. no need to touch the sub anymore.
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knee_drag2002
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Feb 12 2010, 10:15 PM
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New Member
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Gong Xi Fa Cai to everyone. Drive safe you all... |
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TShtkaki
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Feb 12 2010, 10:23 PM
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I guess klimal is talking abt the subtleness in bass while watching concert while he wants the slam in movie. In music or concert, the bass note should never overpowering; i.e. not being run hot. It sld be tuned to 75dB as with the rest. However, most of us like the bass to be hot for movie. klimal is experiencing certain localization in the sub for concert since the bass is overpowering. He might to explore other placement or the phase setting to get it blends seamlessly. My 13-Ultra is being set at 75dB. Never run it hot. If the Dyn EQ is switch, it is like 'unleash the beast'  Pissmad must be enjoying his new toy now. Impressive HT room, I must say. |
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