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post Jul 5 2010, 10:56 AM

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post Jul 5 2010, 11:06 AM

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QUOTE(krk24 @ Jul 5 2010, 10:47 AM)
of course all this SHIT will be revealed after the matches....for now just BELIVED on wht MR. OCTOPUS prediction for semis.....
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who am i to argue with an octopus?

bodohnya aku... doh.gif

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robertngo
post Jul 5 2010, 11:33 AM

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QUOTE(verx @ Jul 5 2010, 09:46 AM)
I think it's funny you mentioned Inter cause what Paraguay did was the complete opposite to Inter's tactics against Barca. Paraguay pressed all over the pitch which made life very uncomfortable for Spain. Inter on the other hand completely sat off conceding almost all the possession to Barca. Lowe will just have to choose 1 of the 2 whichever he thinks will be more effective.

I still think Spain will be a very different kind of opponent to what Germany has faced so far. England and Argentina really played into Germany's hands. What Germany have showed though is that they are a well disciplined team tactically and that they are devastating on the counter attack. Whoever gets the first goal will win.
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the german team are flexible and fast they can turn switch of either sitting back or going out to win the ball, while german never face a opponent like spain, spain also never meet a opponent like germany, all their previous opponent either attack well or defend well not two at the same time, portugal have the team to switch to attack but queiroz never change their tactic to attack even when spain have the lead.

i will be interesting to see how will spain react if the german gain the upper hand in midfield what kind of tactical change will del bosque make, because he never seem to change things around when it was not working for the spanish, one thing that he and the spanish team sure have is the patient to pass the ball around until someone usually villa these day scored.


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QUOTE(krk24 @ Jul 5 2010, 10:11 AM)
another piece of news to all footie fans: Octopus predicts football games
another correct prediction from octopus: Octupus prediction
this is how octopus predicted before argentina v germany match:

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 5 2010, 12:33 PM)
the german team are flexible and fast they can turn switch of either sitting back or going out to win the ball, while german never face a opponent like spain, spain also never meet a opponent like germany, all their previous opponent either attack well or defend well not two at the same time, portugal have the team to switch to attack but queiroz never change their tactic to attack even when spain have the lead.

i will be interesting to see how will spain react if the german gain the upper hand in midfield what kind of tactical change will del bosque make, because he never seem to change things around when it was not working for the spanish, one thing that he and the spanish team sure have is the patient to pass the ball around until someone usually villa these day scored.


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post Jul 5 2010, 12:38 PM

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if spain dont win the world cup, what r u going to say ?
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Jul 5 2010, 11:33 AM)
the german team are flexible and fast they can turn switch of either sitting back or going out to win the ball, while german never face a opponent like spain, spain also never meet a opponent like germany, all their previous opponent either attack well or defend well not two at the same time, portugal have the team to switch to attack but queiroz never change their tactic to attack even when spain have the lead.
No offence but that's just ridiculous. It's like saying the players can be at 2 places at one time doh.gif
If you press, it means the midfield is not sitting back. If you sit back you won't have enough players to press. Unless Germany has become the exception to the rule and is able to play with 14 players what you're suggesting is plainly not possible.

But it's true being able to defend and attack well is a hallmark of a good team and Germany are a good team. But so is Spain for that matter.
What Spain have faced so far are teams that just made life uncomfortable for them. I think they prefer facing a team that allows them to play so Germany might just suit them.

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i will be interesting to see how will spain react if the german gain the upper hand in midfield what kind of tactical change will del bosque make, because he never seem to change things around when it was not working for the spanish, one thing that he and the spanish team sure have is the patient to pass the ball around until someone usually villa these day scored.
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Spain will dominate possession and the midfield area, that isn't in question. And Del Bosque has always changed things in the 2nd half in almost every match. Bringing on Cesc (AM) for Torres (Striker) and Pedro (Winger) for Xabi (DM) in the last match for example are definitely tactical shifts. Your eyes are betraying you me thinks. tongue.gif
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I will always against gambling, especially "sports". My freind's friend told that Spain is going to win the World Cup is what he told me, not 100%, and for me, if base on Germans performance so far, they will have no problem to beat the Spanish side. But I guess the Spain still have a lot of space for improvement and remember that 2 years ago Spain did beat German before, so will this result repeat again? No one knows. But once again, most of the matches have been fixed, so my advice is sit down and watch the game and see how they going to fool us around again.
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QUOTE(munky @ Jul 5 2010, 12:38 PM)
if spain dont win the world cup, what r u going to say ?
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He's going to say match is fixed, Germany won as a 'thank you' gesture for their support in saving the European economy.
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Here is the octopus pick, http://www.thefinalthird.com/2010/07/04/pa...us-picks-spain/ So will Spain really beat Germany? We just wait and see the result.
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QUOTE(verx @ Jul 5 2010, 12:39 PM)
No offence but that's just ridiculous. It's like saying the players can be at 2 places at one time doh.gif
If you press, it means the midfield is not sitting back. If you sit back you won't have enough players to press. Unless Germany has become the exception to the rule and is able to play with 14 players what you're suggesting is plainly not possible.

But it's true being able to defend and attack well is a hallmark of a good team and Germany are a good team. But so is Spain for that matter.
What Spain have faced so far are teams that just made life uncomfortable for them. I think they prefer facing a team that allows them to play so Germany might just suit them.
i not saying it can attack and stack the defense at the same time but to change their focus from defense to attack and back during different period of the game depending on the situation.
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Germany may miss Mueller for sure..and two doutbfull starter..khedira and cacau..so Spain have the advantages..but never underestimate Die Mannschaft teamplay...and counter attack...
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QUOTE(hosiery2u @ Jul 5 2010, 02:35 PM)
Here is the octopus pick, http://www.thefinalthird.com/2010/07/04/pa...us-picks-spain/  So will Spain really beat Germany? We just wait and see the result.
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QUOTE(verx @ Jul 5 2010, 12:39 PM)
Spain will dominate possession and the midfield area, that isn't in question. And Del Bosque has always changed things in the 2nd half in almost every match. Bringing on Cesc (AM) for Torres (Striker) and Pedro (Winger) for Xabi (DM) in the last match for example are definitely tactical shifts. Your eyes are betraying you me thinks. tongue.gif
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i think they always need to change in the second half the last few game is because torres is not working at all so they try against portugal to use Llorente and in the last match Cesc, dont know if del bosque still have enough patient for Torres to come into form or he will change to a single striker formation with the red hot villa to start the game for now on.

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Based on the past few matches, the Germans absolutely superior in terms of physical fitness where everytime they got the ball back, counter attack is launched regardless the number of players in front. The Argies were totally wore out 20mins from time due to this since they need to attack and defend at the same pace.

I would say it's the battle of German fitness against Spanish finesse.
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But German defence looks good. They can sit back and wait for counter attack. Spain is more on passing, but they need to penetrate to score. So far, I see German has a fast lighting attack. Their counter are fast and well co ordinate. I see German will try to control the center first, if failed they will sit back and patience for counter.
Spain can have lot of possession, but their score sheet is not very good. If they cant score against previous team, what do you think when u face team like German.
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i want to see how many the germans score over ramos, pique, puyol, capdevila with casillas behind.


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I'm happy with just 1-0 win over spain..no need to be greed...
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post Jul 5 2010, 11:45 PM

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germany will win the world cup.. it's too obvious.
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QUOTE(Davidtcf @ Jul 5 2010, 11:45 PM)
germany will win the world cup.. it's too obvious.
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