@sniper
sorry but what's airfix plastic? plastic i know la. airfix....?

as for the EVF, the only cons i can think of is you might not get used to it or just personally don't like it for no reason.

with EVF, you can view your pictures directly in the view finder without taking your eye off, some may like it, some may think its a hassle(can be disabled).

if you change your WB, you can see how it actually looks like in the EVF. conventionally, you have to try your luck, or rely on experience, or use live view to check.

you can also get the real depth of field. in conventional DSLRs, you can only see the depth of field at f3.5 even if you are shooting at f1.4 . of course if you are shooting at f3.5 and below then the depth of field is accurate.

and many more benefits you can go read yourself la.

what is the diff between a33 & a55, my wife is new to dslr, should i get her a33 or a55 ?

Aiyar I know lar brudder... Sony's EVF is already the best in the market.

The same rationale can be used for composing using LCD.
What you see is what you get.. all adjustments immediately reflected onto the the seen image etc.

In most practical and all logical sense, an electronic view finder is superior.

But........ electronic have no soul and viewing the real light/image through the lens has a certain ZEN.. this alone beats logic.. hahahhahaa

Thanks a lot zstan. If not for you the A33/55 probably would have escaped my radar. Will definitely check them out. Hope I like how they look and feel.

Wow! even images at iso 12800 also boleh tahan! Then lower iso no need to say already loh hor. That's surely a strong point to me since I like existing light photography.

I didn't know that Sony has the best AF for vid recording. Good that you point it out to me.

I'm rather impressed with the autofocus speed shown in the videos. Are Canon/Nikon's much slower, anybody knows?

Wonder Sony's lenses are in the same league as Canon and Nikon already?

Thank you once again zstan.

This post has been edited by sevenor: Oct 22 2010, 10:53 AM

a33 less megapixels, and no GPS tagging. otherwise its the same.

ehh..if you put vivid mode hor...everything in real life now will look more dull.

look and feel.. its too small and light for me though, then again, it might just be the one for you

as far as i know, only nikon d3100 has AF for video recording. 60D got AF or not a? and yes its definitely much slower than sony's.

if you are refering to the G lenses and Sony Carl Zeiss lenses, of course they are the same league with the Canon's L and Nikon's Nikkor lenses, if not better.

its relatively cheaper as well considering you don't need to pay more for built in-lens stabilisation.

however i concede that canon and nikon has more lenses to choose from. then again, there's always 3rd party lenses, at a cheaper price with reasonably good optics too.

Actually I had dabbled with most of the big names except Minolta (strange, don't know why). Sony and Panasonic cameras were not out yet. Cameras I owned are now antiques already. I also malu to tell you guys. Anyway, they were Canon AE1, Canon A1, Olympus OM2N, Pentax MX and lastly the Nikon FM which I coupled it a 28-200mm/f3.5 Tamron lens besides the standard lens it came with, if I remember correctly.

The last 20 years or so I had switched to compact cameras after tired of dragging heavy and bulky slr around. That's why at first I thought of getting the Pana LX5 as my next camera istead of DSLR, but alas no DOF susah lah.

What's the pros and cons of EVF, anyone?

Thanks once again, Sniper.

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Added on October 22, 2010, 11:20 amThanks mint87 for confirmming that Sony has the best AF so far.

Will the loss of 30% of the light affect the IQ?

Cheers!



This post has been edited by sevenor: Oct 22 2010, 11:20 AM

this was my post above:

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Added on October 22, 2010, 11:21 am100% NO!

This post has been edited by zstan: Oct 22 2010, 11:21 AM

Judging from what you explained, this EVF thing seems to be a good idea.

What do you mean by "conventional DSLR"? About the depth of field, why is it that with conventional DSLR you can only see DOF at f3.5 even if you are shooting at f1.4?

"...you can go read yourself la", I know but lazy ma that's why I asked you sifu's loh. Else have to spend 10's of hours browsing on the net, see liao.

Arigato zstan!

I dunno why people so adverse to manual focusing in video mode. Even the best video AF also slower than manual wat.


Wow... those are classics. Always wanted to get an AE1

OVF (traditional mirror) vs EVF --> Its like looking at a beautiful scene while being there vs watching it on a TV (albeit a Full HD TV)

conventional DSLR means those that are using the OVF lor.. this has gotta do with the glass used in the view finder...

nola..

sevenor stated 'video recording with AF is preferable' in his list ma. ..no doubt all serious videographers use manual focusing..




This post has been edited by zstan: Oct 22 2010, 11:40 AM

If compare Canon S90 with Panasonic Lumix LX3, which 1 better?

if u still have old Nikon mount lenses, u still can use it on Nikon new Dslrs
Minolta A-mount lenses can use on Sony Dslr oso but since u nvr used Minolta...
Canon old mount lenses definitely cant use on their Dslrs

if u r accustomed to Manual focus, u can use 50 f/1.8 on D3100

this is a hard one actually..err

i have read alot of reviews about s95/lx5 so does the s90/lx3..some say s90,some say lx3..its a tie to tell u the truth..

for me,i prefer the lx3 colouring,and the s90's compactness..

i know its not helping..but i think its wut u want..if u want compactness,go for s90..if not go with the lx3..

This post has been edited by mint87: Oct 22 2010, 01:06 PM

guys, i have 700 to spend on a camera.


what do you suggest?

Thanks for ur opinion, my friend plan selling off his lx3, Rm900 is a good steal? He say his lx3 come with 33 months warranty, he used for 1 year+, so still left 1 year+ warranty, condition is 95%, he always take good care of his stuff, so i will consider about it...

[B]Type of camera/lens/accesories : Compact Digital camera
[B]Budget:RM600
[B]Your Location:Kuching
[B]Preferable brand :Canon, Sony
[B]Type of photography u want to do :Normal Shooting
[B]Any specific models in mind? : ?
[B]Any specific features u want? :autofocus, waterproof(optional), 12 mp and above, avoid handshake

Thanks for the explanation on conventional dslr thing.

So need to ask you when they say a camera's video recording has AF do they mean that the camera will keep on refocusing whenever you point the camera on a different target/subject like when we video a person moving towards you? Sorry, I'm so behing time, guess I lau liao And how do you go about refocusing it manually? Is it troublesome?

Thanks in advance everybody.

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Added on October 22, 2010, 3:22 pmUnfortunately I sold every single one of them already when I switched to using compact cameras. Now regret. Even had a handheld German bellow foldable camera with Carl Zeiss lens but was stolen.

So now have to start from scratch. That's why have to decide which make carefully, don't want to keep switching make cos very costly. I only plan to have 3 lenses in totla - 24 (or 28)mm, 105 mm and a 28-135mm zoom (I'm talking about 35mm photography), as I'm no longer gila camera or photography (cos proven I don't have artistic talent even thought I have the technical knowhow ). Will go for the brightest lens if at all possible and then build up my set from there. That's why I do not mind even used or cheap body if it means I can have better quality lenses.






This post has been edited by sevenor: Oct 22 2010, 03:22 PM

Yeah but problem is that it's slow even on the fastest system.. you can check youtube for examples.

Refocussing it manually is just like turn turn focus ring on the lens like your old SLRs... only easier as the video is shown on the LCD (liveview).

Situations such as kid running around.. forget AF video.. it's not fast enough and when its HD resolution... its will show.

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Added on October 22, 2010, 3:29 pmThat could be a bit of a problem.. I don't think any of the camp have wide angle prime for crop sensor.

My usual carry-everywhere setup is an entry 550D body + a Sigma 30mm f1.4 (= 48mm) + 55-250mm tele. Still looking for wide angle solution though.



This post has been edited by sniper on the roof: Oct 22 2010, 03:32 PM

Since you said that for kid running around to forget about AF video, so switch to manual focusing? Then need to keep on focusing right? Not mah fun meh?

Wah, very bright Sigma lens you have there!

This post has been edited by sevenor: Oct 22 2010, 03:56 PM

It's more of control rather than mah fun... it's not like your gonna hold DSLR with one hand right?