digging deeper for this panasonic model. new model as stated by panasonic MY website.

http://panasonic.com.my/PRODUCTS/VISUAL/tau_GIGA_tv/TX_29F350MK_2.htm

it didn't give details what HD mode it support. and since this is a new model i guess it should be better than before model. price difference is only RM100-200 from DB29. quality, i guess have to compare side by side with the other models.

Interesting.

It's weird that for a HD-ready set they don't publicise the types of HD modes supported. Maybe google will be kinder with info.

Then again, another model:

http://panasonic.com.my/PRODUCTS/VISUAL/ta..._29F350MK_2.htm

has these:

Type 29 Flat Colour TV
HD Ready (1080i)
833i (75 Hz) Mode
GIGA 100Hz Super Digital Scan/GIGA Progressive Scan
3D Y/C Digital Comb Filter (PAL/NTSC)
Digital AI Naturalizer
DPNR (Digital Picture Noise Reduction)
Digital VM Circuit
Hammer Drive Sound System
Audio Output: 20W
Virtual Dolby Surround Sound
Two Component Video (DVD) Inputs
Multi Window (2-tuner Picture-in-Picture)
Universal Remote Control

For RM 1899.00 that looks like an interesting offer; and it's ACTUALLY HD-capable.

This post has been edited by Lord_Ashe: Apr 25 2006, 04:47 PM

In this 800 series, I notice that they call it GIGA 100Hz Super Digital Scan/GIGA Progressive Scan as compare to 29F350MK with Full 100Hz Digital Scan/Progressive Scan.

I got a chance to compare sony DB29 with 29F350MK. In terms of refresh rate, the full 100Hz is doin an amazing job to make the TV flicker-free. As for DB29, it flickers like ordinary 50Hz TV. However, I was told that the sony was on normal video in where panasonic with DVD component.

This post has been edited by wb4j: Apr 25 2006, 05:52 PM

going to my local tv store, and guess what? 29F350MK is there. fiddling with some of the setting, there is one mode which i forgot what is the name, that can choose auto, weak, strong. auto looks fugly, weak looks nice like DRC, strong looks nice but the picture looks abit blurry. weak and strong will give you picture quality without those interlace line. i notice when i choose 100hz the interlace line appear, maybe i didn't change the mode to weak or strong. the video signal that feed the tv i'm fiddling is from component cable at 480i.

i believe the main strong function of this tv is "Digital AI Naturalizer" and "DPNR (Digital Picture Noise Reduction)", to compete with Pixel Plus 2 and DRC. and the paper that they stick to the screen show only 1080i, dunno can it display 720p signal or not.

wb4j, when you compare the DB29, have you change the mode to DRC-1250?

It's highly doubtful that a CRT set can display true 720p (with rare exceptions) but for the most part, I think that if a model CAN display that resolution, it would be a strong advertising point.

In the meantime, like xxboxx said, check the DRC features. AFAIK, the DRC and Pixel Plus 2 features go beyond reducing flicker, but still it depends on your personal preference.

What flicker? never seen a flicker since using the DB-29....even makes my Gameboy Advance game looks so good running on XBOX emulator (support 480i/480p/720p/1080i !!!). It's either they purposely mess up the setting or there's a faulty unit on display there. As mentioned, if it's normal composite-in, picture quality will suffers a lot, especially those crap TV or astro signals.

As for the 800 series, i dun think those qualify as HDTV...what the hell is 833i?? Where got hw/software support for this mode?? It's useless. And since the HDTV mode spec of the new Panasonic isn't printed clearly, better check out what mode it support before making a purchase.

This post has been edited by Matrix: Apr 26 2006, 10:32 AM

Im recently looking for HDTV research and found this samsung model very appealing.
link
It has true HD resolution 1366(H) x 768(V)
but the price is surely killing me. Anyone can recommend some cheaper model/brand?

This post has been edited by wei: Apr 26 2006, 01:37 PM

Dude, relax. 833i is a different resolution than we're used to see, and there's a good discussion at

http://www.gpforums.co.nz/thread/316071/2/?s=

According to EISA's website for 2003/2004 at

http://www.eisa-awards.org/history/2003-2004/video.html

Television PANASONIC TX-36PD30

Panasonic's TX-36PD30 92cm wide screen set renders the highest picture resolution ever seen on a TV screen. This is partly due to a new "Quintrix-SR" picture tube, which utilizes a superfine shadow mask to deliver higher contrast and brighter pictures; but it's also the result of unique "Acuity" picture processing technology, which intelligently computes TV material up to a resolution of 2376 x 833i pixels at 75Hz. With 10-bit processing this ensures a perfect, flicker-free picture without visible scan lines, exhibiting finer detail and smoother color representation. And thanks to its component video input, the TX-36PD30 recognizes Progressive Scan signals in PAL and NTSC.

So while 833i MAY be a valid HD resolution, I suppose it'll depend on the material you're gonna play on the set?

Yes indeed, it is using the normal composite video in.


xxboxx,

Not sure wat mode it was on.

Thanks for the great detail. Panasonic HDTV do have limitation.

Gameboy Advance game in 1080i???


without a material that capable of taking advantage of the tv capabilities, i don't see why spends so much money for it. and it's only support 50hz, slimfit deja vu anyone?


you should set it to DRC-1250 and compare, you'll see there's no much difference.

Definitely reminded of the slimfit marketing hype. Thank God I didn't fall for that one. Sticking with my Philips...well at least till I can afford a plasma/LCD.

Yup. XBoy Visual Advance (or something like that) support all modes...480i/480p/720p/1080i. However, i only play in 480p since the 4:3 is better instead of stretched 16:9. You can resize the screen to fit the resolution. It looks very good in all the modes especially with anti-aliasing on.

I started to play Golden Sun on Xbox, but later transfered the savegame to PC(and play using Visual Boy Advance..which i believe is the original version of the emu ported to the XBOX)...coz can open walkthrough FAQ in PC while playing the game!!!

The wonders of emulators!

In fact, i think it looks as good as PSX games(if not better) in 2D with the AA on!! Not much pixelly graphics can be seen!


This post has been edited by Matrix: Apr 27 2006, 08:52 AM

there is a company in singapore that sells the cable (bettercables) i am looking for http://www.millennium.sg/ but as this is my first time trying, so i ordered something cheaper from the states http://www.digitalconnection.com/Products/Cables/SCVM5R.asp after failing to find it in klang valey.

If it is PC input, you got to check if it is VGA input (same connector with your PC) then you dun have to search for this cable. you just use ordinray PC VGA cable can be found in low yat.

Dudes, this is my first time posting in this forum.

Lord_Ashe, what kind of Phillips are u using? Can it display HD? I'm looking for a CRT TV with HD capability for RM2K. Looking to invest in X360/PS3 in the near future and need a 29" that is sort of future proof (until LCDs become more affordable that is...) Any suggestions guys?

Sony KV-DB29M61 which is HD-ready and capable to produce video quality in 1080i/720p/625p/576p/525p/480p/480i.

anyone done service manual to their tv? to adjust the screen display. particularly DB29M61. mine the overscan is quite alot for 720p and 1080i, around almost 1 inches for each side. but i heard you can really mess up your tv if done it wrong.

Just got a Xbox 360 and running it in 720p on my DB29M61..man the interface liked it's been photoshopped!!

All TV related manuals can be found on this here. Search under online documentation. There they have every single manuals for all models of the tv.

Sorry..but we mostly criticized the lack of manuals for other brand of tv's. Panasonic used to have it online. Kudos for Sony...they have lots of manuals online, even for discontinued models.