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Jonlam
post Mar 23 2006, 08:03 AM

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Is the Sony KV-DB34M61 a good model? I went to Best Denki, SenQ & ESL, everyone didn't have a display model and said that this model has faulty display tube and sound problem ie no surround sound. Is this true? It is selling for RM2999 at this shops though.
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post Mar 23 2006, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(Jonlam @ Mar 23 2006, 08:03 AM)
Is the Sony KV-DB34M61 a good model? I went to Best Denki, SenQ & ESL, everyone didn't have a display model and said that this model has faulty display tube and sound problem ie no surround sound. Is this true? It is selling for RM2999 at this shops though.
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Sure Boh? I thought i saw this model at Best Denki and Jaya Jusco. Just one fella telling u this problem or all of them telling the same story??
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post Mar 23 2006, 09:05 AM

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Maybe they're just trying to sell you a more expensive set?

The Sony sets are doing good, AFAIK, and my Philips is absolutely smashing for a CRT. Happy customer here.
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post Mar 23 2006, 04:07 PM

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All the salesperson didnt recommend the Sony to me, instead they kept suggesting other models ie Panasonic & Philips. They gave following reasons. One said tube problem and the other said no surround sound. One also said that the KV-DA34M61 model is better than the KV-DB34M61 model because got surround sound. I checked the KV-DB34M61 specs, also got surround sound also mah doh.gif I only saw the KV-DB29M61 display model at these places but not the 34" model.
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post Mar 23 2006, 04:10 PM

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A salespersosn is only good for one thing, and that is anything to do with price. Anything technical you're better off scouring online forums and getting the tech specs from Sony's site.
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post Mar 23 2006, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(Jonlam @ Mar 23 2006, 04:07 PM)
All the salesperson didnt recommend the Sony to me, instead they kept suggesting other models ie Panasonic & Philips. They gave following reasons. One said tube problem and the other said no surround sound. One also said that the KV-DA34M61 model is better than the KV-DB34M61 model because got surround sound. I checked the KV-DB34M61 specs, also got surround sound also mah  doh.gif I only saw the KV-DB29M61 display model at these places but not the 34" model.
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No, not Panasonic. They suck.

Philips generally make good CRTs, but for your budget you'll be looking for the Pixel Plus 2 ready sets, which are comparable to the Sony HD ready sets. IMHO, you may want to check out smaller outlets far away from big city spots...sometimes you'll find a dream buy!
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post Mar 23 2006, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Mar 23 2006, 04:12 PM)
No, not Panasonic. They suck.

Philips generally make good CRTs, but for your budget you'll be looking for the Pixel Plus 2 ready sets, which are comparable to the Sony HD ready sets. IMHO, you may want to check out smaller outlets far away from big city spots...sometimes you'll find a dream buy!
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I could not find any Philips Pixel Plus 2 CRT TV. Even the M'sian Philip website shows only one 34" model 34PT8845 which has Pixel Plus but not PP2.

I have seen the 34PT8845 model side-by-side to the KV-DB29M61. It seems a bit grainy compared to the KV-DB29M61.
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post Mar 23 2006, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Jonlam @ Mar 23 2006, 04:36 PM)
I could not find any Philips Pixel Plus 2 CRT TV. Even the M'sian Philip website shows only one 34" model  34PT8845 which has Pixel Plus but not PP2.

I have seen the 34PT8845 model side-by-side to the KV-DB29M61. It seems a bit grainy compared to the KV-DB29M61.
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I know. I bought one of the few remaining 29" PP2 CRT sets in Taipan early this year. FYI, the 34PT8845 is a mediocre buy, especially since the PP technology isn't the latest one. If you ever find a PP2 set, try a comparison again. It may just blow your mind.
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Oh boy! Now you got me on a urge to look for these PP2 philips TV. drool.gif
What is your model and does any 34" model has PP2?
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QUOTE(Jonlam @ Mar 23 2006, 04:44 PM)
Oh boy! Now you got me on a urge to look for these PP2 philips TV.  drool.gif
What is your model and does any 34" model has PP2?
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Alamak, I forgot the model name exactly, but if you go to the earlier pages in this thread you may still find it. In fact, there IS a 34" version, which I couldn't buy due to financial constraints. You may still be able to find it around. Good luck!
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QUOTE(Jonlam @ Mar 23 2006, 04:07 PM)
All the salesperson didnt recommend the Sony to me, instead they kept suggesting other models ie Panasonic & Philips. They gave following reasons. One said tube problem and the other said no surround sound. One also said that the KV-DA34M61 model is better than the KV-DB34M61 model because got surround sound. I checked the KV-DB34M61 specs, also got surround sound also mah  doh.gif I only saw the KV-DB29M61 display model at these places but not the 34" model.
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surround? actually it's only virtual surround, and it's nothing near to actual 5 + 1 sets of speaker.

i'm using KV-DB29M61. and if the 34" speaker is the same as 29", bad news to you, the speaker sucks! my more than 5 years old Sharp tv produce much better bass than this tv. shakehead.gif but i matched it with my 5.1 HT, it rocks! thumbup.gif
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post Mar 23 2006, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(Lord_Ashe @ Mar 23 2006, 04:45 PM)
Alamak, I forgot the model name exactly, but if you go to the earlier pages in this thread you may still find it. In fact, there IS a 34" version, which I couldn't buy due to financial constraints. You may still be able to find it around. Good luck!
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Is your PP2 TV the 29PT9421 model? Is it a 4:3 or 16:9?
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post Mar 23 2006, 08:52 PM

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i'm confused rclxub.gif when i google for the Philips 29PT9421/69R info and i found 2 spec sheet in pdf...1 stated that is support 480p/1080i @60Hz, 576p @ 50Hz..another 1 only say auto format. This model is matchline III (should be the better quality 1 right?) pixel plus 2 tv and it is a older model..I saw this model at HSL website.

the 29PT8845/69 model clearly stated that support 480p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p sweat.gif

well, sony KV-DB29M61 tv also Multi HD-Ready (1080i/720p/625p/576p/525p/480p/480i capable) unsure.gif

really confused!! Lord_Ashe...can u confirm ur model ar? ur previous link not valid anymore...

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post Mar 24 2006, 09:18 AM

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QUOTE(cyberic @ Mar 23 2006, 08:52 PM)
i really confused!! Lord_Ashe...can u confirm ur model ar? ur previous link not valid anymore...
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Mine is the older 29PT9421/69R at 4:3.

The reason I bought that one was

1: it does 60 AND 50Hz HD
2: it's Pixel Plus 2

When I was looking, the PT8845 wasn't out yet, and the only other model was a crappy 100Hz one with no Pixel Plus. Seriously though the PP2 is MUCH better than the PP1. Honestly though, the Sony KVDB29M61 is a damn kickass Tv for the price. So either the PT29 or DB29 will keep you happy.
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post Mar 24 2006, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Jonlam @ Mar 23 2006, 04:07 PM)
All the salesperson didnt recommend the Sony to me, instead they kept suggesting other models ie Panasonic & Philips. They gave following reasons. One said tube problem and the other said no surround sound. One also said that the KV-DA34M61 model is better than the KV-DB34M61 model because got surround sound. I checked the KV-DB34M61 specs, also got surround sound also mah  doh.gif I only saw the KV-DB29M61 display model at these places but not the 34" model.
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If anyone trying to sell you Panasonic CRT and says it's better than SONY, you can guarantee 100% they're out to con your money.
DON'T EVER BUY PANASONIC CRT. THE END!!!!

Tube problem?? I think there's so many DB/DA 29 model owners here and nobody complain of anything. Surroung sound?? Those shitty built in speaker of the TV lau-yah one...furtheremore, both model also got this virtual surround thingy. I use HT5.1, so dun bother with it.

Obviously another con job attempt trying to sell you a model which gives them higher comission... mad.gif

Btw, you can actually go to any eletronic shops in PJ SS2...they don't have the model, but can order one immediately from distributor as long as you tell them which model you want.
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post Mar 24 2006, 10:08 AM

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Found out that only HSL carry the PP2 TVs and only the Subang Parade branch has a 34" display model. Will be going there tonite to have a look. The Taipan branch has no stock in hand and the Curve branch has only the 29".

Hope they have a Sony 34"DB to make a side to side comparison tonite.
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post Mar 24 2006, 10:10 AM

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QUOTE(Matrix @ Mar 24 2006, 09:38 AM)
If anyone trying to sell you Panasonic CRT and says it's better than SONY, you can guarantee 100% they're out to con your money.
DON'T EVER BUY PANASONIC CRT. THE END!!!!

Tube problem?? I think there's so many DB/DA 29 model owners here and nobody complain of anything. Surroung sound?? Those shitty built in speaker of the TV lau-yah one...furtheremore, both model also got this virtual surround thingy. I use HT5.1, so dun bother with it.

Obviously another con job attempt trying to sell you a model which gives them higher comission... mad.gif

Btw, you can actually go to any eletronic shops in PJ SS2...they don't have the model, but can order one immediately from distributor as long as you tell them which model you want.
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I have a Panasonic 21" tv that I can't watch for long cuz it makes my eyes blur. blink.gif
Thats why I am looking for a new TV. Mainly for Astro and DVDs.
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post Mar 24 2006, 10:13 AM

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QUOTE(Jonlam @ Mar 24 2006, 10:10 AM)
I have a Panasonic 21" tv that I can't watch for long cuz it makes my eyes blur.  blink.gif
Thats why I am looking for a new TV. Mainly for Astro and DVDs.
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Then you can't go wrong with either the Sony or the Philips PP2. I bought mine in HSL Taipan, btw. In the meantime, good luck shopping, and let us know what you find!
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post Mar 24 2006, 02:55 PM

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I have found a website where it give some opinions on all HDTVs available. Quite informative with screenshots of the tv.
Click here

*Look for this person named "Bag of Chips" on page 2 of the thread. Probably he is richer than stringfellow. tongue.gif (No offend ar, stringfellow)

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