English Clubs Liverpool Football Club- The Kop Talks 2009, LIVERPOOL 1-2 ARSENAL -HAPLESS
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 Nov 10 2009, 11:44 PM
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RB must be the most relieved manager to see the players heading to international matches and a break from competitive games in the league.
2 weeks may not be enough but it's adequate for him to see some players nursing their injuries and hopefully we'll have one or two more available for the man city match. time for RB to do some serious thinking in getting our season back on track. |
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Nov 11 2009, 12:03 AM
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QUOTE(ALeUNe @ Nov 10 2009, 09:09 PM) Man management skill? I don't get you. Can you elaborate more? not the best way to protect your players is it?  n'gog looks a pretty decent bet for the future but having his manager doubt/question him in public will surely do wonders for his confidence? i've noticed that Rafa only works well with players with a certain kind of mentality, which isn't what a manager should be doing? Especially when our coffers aren't loaded and the kind of players with the self motivation, confidence and drive that Rafa demands usually aren't cheap. This post has been edited by madmoz: Nov 11 2009, 12:03 AM |
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Nov 11 2009, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Nov 11 2009, 12:03 AM) not the best way to protect your players is it? Babel & now Ngog?n'gog looks a pretty decent bet for the future but having his manager doubt/question him in public will surely do wonders for his confidence? i've noticed that Rafa only works well with players with a certain kind of mentality, which isn't what a manager should be doing? Especially when our coffers aren't loaded and the kind of players with the self motivation, confidence and drive that Rafa demands usually aren't cheap. |
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Nov 11 2009, 12:23 AM
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CityBluePrint - Please put the Eduardo pic under spoiler. It's not appropriate for some people, but obviously not me.
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Nov 11 2009, 12:46 AM
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Sometimes I'm utterly despair of my fellow Lowyites.
Ngog is going to be a great player. How he is being groomed by Rafa will affect his future. He would have being hailed as MoTM but then the jingoistic ethnocentric media preferred to pan and scapegoat him for Liverpool's performance. Why can't we understand s'times a superior team cannot win against team like Birmingham. Teams that are moulded by the likes of Scottish managers (ala Celtic/Rangers)- not necessarily talented but full of grit and gunghos. So are we surprised that Lee Carsley (remember Martin Taylor) is a reflection of Birmingham's team. Carsley has a bad reputation and had priors with reckless challenges and being red-carded numerous times (at international level too). To cite Drogba, Iwelumo Lee Carsley's Carnage  » Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... « Wolves' Chris Iwelumo lies injured after a tackle by Birmingham City's Lee Carsley which resulted in a red card. How many of you guys recall last year Derby where Carsley should have got a red card for a terrible challenge which would have potentially ended Torres' season. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/e...rem/7309368.stm To me he is a gun for hire. Ask yourself who knows the carded players better. A good referee is also there to protect players irrespective of colour or origin. Thats what a good referee and a good manager (ask CR7 who is his daddy) should . This post has been edited by CityBluePrint: Nov 11 2009, 07:15 AM |
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Nov 11 2009, 01:56 AM
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Ooh some real tough fixtures await Liverpool as soon as the Interlull ends. With Rafa having no choice but to take all the risks with your non-fit players, it's going to be a long hard battle for you guys. Nobody shall be more grateful for the interlull other than Liverpool I think. Your injured ones should pray for some express recovery during this period.
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Nov 11 2009, 04:40 AM
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hmm, what turmoil is striking the Lads now? wonder why we are in such a bad form? RAfa alrady throwing in the towel? I am still puzzled by Rafa's comment on saying the players are "mad" at the current Liverpool FC slumps and bad result but who is causing this bad result and why aren't things rectified?
Rafa to be blamed or the players? -cheers- |
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Nov 11 2009, 06:32 AM
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QUOTE(Playboy21 @ Nov 10 2009, 07:59 PM) About Gerrard, yes, I have to agree with Sols. How often do we see Gerrard arguing with the referee to get his teammates out of trouble? Look at Giggs, and Terry for instance. Great captains, and they try their best to help their mates to wriggle out of any potential trouble. No need to talk about Ferdinand.. he's a different case altogether. He rapes the referee's mind, and forces decisions. Well said PB21, uncannily it somehow reminds me to a few weeks back, where some "fan" had the audacity to compare Gerrard and Jonny Evans But in a way, Gerrard's acts are good. He doesn't pile pressure on the referee, doesn't do shit on the field or yell lots of foul language to the officials like "some" captains do on a regular basis. I think this is a mark of a great captain. That's why he has the respect from nearly every club fan, and "some" captains don't. Yes, I agree with Sols, he shouldd stick up for his mates more, but even if he doesn't, I still feel Gerrard is the best man for the team. Even the players feel so as well as far as I'm concerned. For instance, Kuyt was the captain till Gerrard came on, and Kuyt rushed to Gerrard and handed him the band the right BEFORE he stepped into the pitch. That shows how much respect they have for him. Overall, I'd like a captain who is silent, does his job well, and gets respect. I am saying so because I am the captain of my district football team   Added on November 10, 2009, 8:01 pm haha Rafa's super cool. He sets his own style, and doesn't follow asses like Fergie. He should f***ing be banned from watching any BPL matches, even on TV/computer for a year or so. f***ing thing moans about everything, but if they win, he'd praise the referee even if the referee made millions of errors.  |
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Nov 11 2009, 08:22 AM
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Robert Enke, Germany and Hanover 96 goalkeeper has died after being hit by a train:
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Nov 11 2009, 09:20 AM
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Doesn't even know what to type anymore. Can't even beat a Birmingham side that struggles on the road.
A little insight from Tony Barrett. How Rafael Benitez can rescue Liverpool's season Five ways for Rafael Benítez to put things at Liverpool right This post has been edited by skulless: Nov 11 2009, 09:28 AM |
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Nov 11 2009, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(madmoz @ Nov 11 2009, 12:03 AM) not the best way to protect your players is it? But he didn't exactly slated Ngog, did he? I'm sure the reason he doesn't go all out to protect Ngog is that he's sending the message "You've saved the match, but in the future there is no need to dive," Then again, it still remains to be seen if his game would be affected. Rafa has been building up his confidence by selecting him ahead of Babel, Voronin and Kuyt (As the striker role), and you could see that Ngog's taking his chances (Take note Babel!). n'gog looks a pretty decent bet for the future but having his manager doubt/question him in public will surely do wonders for his confidence? i've noticed that Rafa only works well with players with a certain kind of mentality, which isn't what a manager should be doing? Especially when our coffers aren't loaded and the kind of players with the self motivation, confidence and drive that Rafa demands usually aren't cheap. On your second point, you're right to a certain extent and with the current financial state of the club, Rafa may not be the manager we need. The same could be said of Pep Guardiola, throw him the Tottenham or Villa team, could you imagine him leading them to Europe success? My take on Rafa atm, that first Birmingham goal, how many times do we need to concede such goals ffs?! Free kick taken to near post, then let the ball bounce around in the penalty box before them getting a clear chance. It has been a problem since the start of the season (Regardless of who plays in defense), why hasn't he sort this out? We are not going to win games if we concede silly goals such as this. It doesn't matter if it's injury problems or what-not, even if we had a fully-fit squad, I still cringe whenever we defend against set piece. |
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Nov 11 2009, 09:42 AM
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QUOTE(led_zep_freak @ Nov 11 2009, 09:26 AM) But he didn't exactly slated Ngog, did he? I'm sure the reason he doesn't go all out to protect Ngog is that he's sending the message "You've saved the match, but in the future there is no need to dive," Then again, it still remains to be seen if his game would be affected. Rafa has been building up his confidence by selecting him ahead of Babel, Voronin and Kuyt (As the striker role), and you could see that Ngog's taking his chances (Take note Babel!). Yes, i agreed wif your pointOn your second point, you're right to a certain extent and with the current financial state of the club, Rafa may not be the manager we need. The same could be said of Pep Guardiola, throw him the Tottenham or Villa team, could you imagine him leading them to Europe success? My take on Rafa atm, that first Birmingham goal, how many times do we need to concede such goals ffs?! Free kick taken to near post, then let the ball bounce around in the penalty box before them getting a clear chance. It has been a problem since the start of the season (Regardless of who plays in defense), why hasn't he sort this out? We are not going to win games if we concede silly goals such as this. It doesn't matter if it's injury problems or what-not, even if we had a fully-fit squad, I still cringe whenever we defend against set piece. I also noticed tat most of our opponents goals were scored thr corner kicks too. Other teams can station two extra players side by side wif the keeper (like having 3 keepers during the box set pieces, why cant we??? our DEFENCE is a total shit, let it CB,RB or LB. they are not covering for each other and they tends to played upfield too often whereas the midfielders dun hav creativity too  |
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Nov 11 2009, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(skulless @ Nov 11 2009, 09:20 AM) Doesn't even know what to type anymore. Can't even beat a Birmingham side that struggles on the road. Spot on articles. I haven't seen both Lyon and Birmingham matches but Kuyt deserves a rest now and then. He has been played in virtually every match this season (Even after a trip to down under.) and that may contribute to his poor form. I wouldn't mind Babel having a go on the right, who knows, he might excel in his natural position. Rafa, if you're hearing!A little insight from Tony Barrett. How Rafael Benitez can rescue Liverpool's season Five ways for Rafael Benítez to put things at Liverpool right |
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Nov 11 2009, 11:26 AM
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QUOTE Liverpool join Carlton Cole's suitors: West Ham braced for January Kop raid Liverpool are among the clubs planning a raid on West Ham to sign Carlton Cole in January. With Fernando Torres and Steven Gerrard struggling through injuries, manager Rafa Benitez has been forced to rely on back-up strikers David Ngog and Andriy Voronin. Barcelona’s interest in Javier Mascherano could finance a move because Liverpool want £32 million. That fee would also fund a replacement for the Argentina midfielder. Cole’s outstanding form has generated interest from home and abroad, particularly in view of the financial problems at Upton Park. West Ham fought off bids for their top players in the summer but are braced for more pressure when the transfer window re-opens. Cole, who is 26 tomorrow, has scored six in 11 Premier League games this season, including one against Liverpool in September. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/...l#ixzz0WWAHc0JX |
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Nov 11 2009, 11:30 AM
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West ham's cole? but i really want to see torres and david villa together.
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Nov 11 2009, 11:50 AM
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I'm more worried about the chances that Masch is leaving
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Nov 11 2009, 12:31 PM
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QUOTE(darrengoh @ Nov 11 2009, 11:30 AM) West ham's cole? but i really want to see torres and david villa together. you can catch em together next summer Anyway, for the money valencia wants for villa (say, 30-40m), I would say that's money we don't have and money not worth spending. He's 28, turning 29. Gerrard, Kuyt, Benny, Aurelio, even Carra are all reaching the prime of their age (While Kuyt might have even passed that). In 4-5 years you can expect an exodus of greats. I'd rather invest in younger players. Like Aguero, Silva or even Cole. Though, Hines has been impressing me the most in West Ham other than diamenti. |
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Nov 11 2009, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(red_brick_zero @ Nov 11 2009, 11:50 AM) I'm more worried about the chances that Masch is leaving Then we should train Plessis... |
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Nov 11 2009, 12:57 PM
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cole is a good backup for torres but being english it gonna cost more than it should.
villa? that will never happen unless he himself saying he dont want to play anywhere else beside liverpool (like torres did) masch leaving.. cant do anything if he wanted to leave. good riddance |
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Nov 11 2009, 01:14 PM
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with 6 + 5 soon to be implemented, getting an english striker wasnt that bad. i would prefer babel or ngog given more 1st team chances. forget bout voronin, he's not gonna make it here
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