if i'm not mistaken, almost all Spain goalkeepers are short. just look at iker Casillas, Victor Valdes and Canizares.

i have to disagree with u on this bro. it is very subjective. Drogba used to dive a lot too during his early chelsea days. same goes as Ronaldo. every player in EPL capable of doing so. Some players didn't even thinking of diving but jump and land on their frontside in order to avoid injury of being tackle or mislanding which can hurt their legs.

depends bro. some people love football but they didn't support any team. they just love play football and watching football. but to those who watch other team play just to taunt their fans is somewhat sick.

Gerrard was hailed as captain due to his sheer determination, commanding presence and influence. his effortless style of play give morale boost to teammate. but lately he has been behind the curtain probably due to injury or personal problem. Carra is the best replacement so far after Gerrard.

I have no question about him inspiring the team to play, to win matches but that's The very same reason why we failed to perform when he is not around.We depend on him way too much.

And as a captain, he should know where he should stand. The incident where he talked about Keane leaving in January back in last year November(or was it december?) was something inappropriate.

I'm not asking for him to be stripped off captaincy but I think he should do better because he is capable of.

This post has been edited by solstice818: Nov 10 2009, 06:11 PM

That is rather the problem of the team or the gaffer.

Though the Keane incident is really unbecoming of him

You can't blame Gerrard for the team underperforming when he's not around, can you?

who else do you think can take the arm band?

carra - he obviously the clear choice. but now is not the time where the backline is in shambles. unneeded burden.. he need to focus on commanding the backline atm.

kuyt - good guy.. but doesn't strike me as a top leader on the pitch.. vice captain is more likely

masch - too short tempered. probably will cost the team if red carded.

pepe - more suitable for the captaincy than carra. though imho, goalie not very suitable as captain.

Ngog impress me. not the dived but, about his play today. so i guess voronin will stay at the bench just like dossena.

I thnk rafa comments needs to be AW (arsenal); "I didnt see if the incident" or fergie's "It a blardy F^%*%king penalty"

^ hmm... so someone agrees with me that his lack of man management skills is glaringly obvious!!!

thats cos hes not managing men but a group of boys - insua, lucas, ngog

He did defend Ngog in some way.

To be honest, ngog had to take a leap there. Carsley's left leg was going to hit his trailing foot. But yea, the fall was alittle exagerrated. As a Liverpool fan, i concede that it wasn't a fair penalty. Nevertheless, it was a game we were supposed to win. We did everything BUT score.

Let the boss be, he's got his style.

Later people sue us for "copying", ROFLMAO (like how some fans from a rival club go berzerk thinking we stole their anthem for "Fernando Torres Liverpool's Number 9" song.

ISTANBUL HERO SMICER HANGS UP HIS BOOTS

http://www.liverpoolfc.tv/news/drilldown/N...091110-1150.htm

About Gerrard, yes, I have to agree with Sols. How often do we see Gerrard arguing with the referee to get his teammates out of trouble? Look at Giggs, and Terry for instance. Great captains, and they try their best to help their mates to wriggle out of any potential trouble. No need to talk about Ferdinand.. he's a different case altogether. He rapes the referee's mind, and forces decisions.

But in a way, Gerrard's acts are good. He doesn't pile pressure on the referee, doesn't do shit on the field or yell lots of foul language to the officials like "some" captains do on a regular basis. I think this is a mark of a great captain. That's why he has the respect from nearly every club fan, and "some" captains don't.

Yes, I agree with Sols, he shouldd stick up for his mates more, but even if he doesn't, I still feel Gerrard is the best man for the team. Even the players feel so as well as far as I'm concerned. For instance, Kuyt was the captain till Gerrard came on, and Kuyt rushed to Gerrard and handed him the band the right BEFORE he stepped into the pitch. That shows how much respect they have for him. Overall, I'd like a captain who is silent, does his job well, and gets respect.

I am saying so because I am the captain of my district football team

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Added on November 10, 2009, 8:01 pmhaha

Rafa's super cool. He sets his own style, and doesn't follow asses like Fergie. He should f***ing be banned from watching any BPL matches, even on TV/computer for a year or so. f***ing thing moans about everything, but if they win, he'd praise the referee even if the referee made millions of errors.

This post has been edited by Playboy21: Nov 10 2009, 08:01 PM

Man management skill? I don't get you. Can you elaborate more?

Gerrard is regarded as one of the best in the world. and no doubt that he's the best in the team. At least that's what his team-mates believe, which is the most important thing to be a leader.
In my opinion (which is based on observation rather than facts or stats), we're not a team that depending on Gerrard, but the gap between him(n Torres) and the rest of the team is massive. He can do thing that others can't. Even so, over the years, his work ethic is superb.. even better than Kuyt.
Some might disagree, but for me I prefer the best player as the captain, someone who leads by example rather than someone who talk a lot.. questioning and complaining on every call, asking ref to sent off the opponents).

P/S: Hyppia is the super cool caiptain..

yup. ngog tried to protect himself there i guess but u'll never know whether he really have the ntention of diving or not. lol. match against club like Birminghm are always tough as club like them like to defend in numbers. Even Arsene and Fergie complained about this in previous seasons.

if Rafa said, "yes, Ngog dived there. he should be banned from the game", sure he will be kicked out as Liverpool boss for not protecting his players.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/i...als/8352694.stm

Surprising but good for him.

Ask Eduardo if Ngog didn't jump high enough


This post has been edited by CityBluePrint: Nov 11 2009, 12:49 AM