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 HDMI Cable Quality?, Really make a diffrent?

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Amras of Nargothrond
post Dec 5 2009, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(DigitalTech @ Dec 4 2009, 09:56 AM)
I totally agree with you.

If you think you are happy with whatever cable you are using. Then be it.

It's a free world. Nobody pointing a gun at your head to buy any cable if you don't want to.

Monster or not Monster, if it's good enough for you, you are good.

The topic on cheap or expensive HDMI cable is an endless debate, because everybody has a different budget and expectation.
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Actually I am using a HDMI cable which give as a gift when I bought my 37" LCD TV, and I haven't compare with Monster or any high speed HDMI cable.

Is not people happy or not happy with the HDMI cable. The issue here is I believe everybody in here also curious on why Monster cable or not pointing to any brand - HIGH PERFORMANCE HDMI CABLE selling so expensive, there must be something special on Monster cable, of course the special is something obvious and able to notice by any type of users, doesn't care whether the person is how sensitive to the video quality.

As one of the expert of this HIGH PERFORMANCE HDMI CABLE, should try to help us understand and give us real life example to show to us the fact. Whether a person willing to invest on these expensive HDMI cable is up to them, at least we know the pros and cons, why using high performance HDMI cable is recommended.

Personally I also want to know because I also don't believe there is a lot of different or any obvious different between expensive HDMI and budgeted HDMI cable.

If possible, don't show any technical link on High Speed/Performance HDMI cable, because not everybody understand what they talking about. Show some real fact.

This post has been edited by Amras of Nargothrond: Dec 5 2009, 02:16 PM
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post Dec 5 2009, 04:35 PM

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from reading those technical rclxub.gif posts and papers, HDMI actually relied on decade old balanced line signalling technology, whereby it moves signal through 2 wire system, one wire carry non-inverted signal, the second wire carry inverted signal, the electronics would then cancel out noises at the other end of the cable.

if the cable can transfer signal through the cable without error, then this cable can consider of good quality, short cable length should sail through without problem, but for longer cable length a few problem will crop up. One is attenuation noise infusion. Consistent wire pair twist and intra-pair twist would take care of noise, copper wire thickness solve the signal attenuation, so there is no magic inside any HDMI cable.

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post Dec 5 2009, 05:12 PM

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Let me give my story of this HDMI cable, well i was given foc Sharp HDMI cable when i bought my Sharp led lcd tv, before i start using it i am worry it wont work on bluray player as state by so n so becos my cable is version 1.2 confirm by Sharp technical people, but after i got my bd disc with the DTS master audio on n set 12bits signal deep color 4-4-4 everything was fine nothing unusual, from the early thread somebody show the chart that version 1.2 wont support 10 bit signal, n DTS m/a n DD true HD, but i have been using for days now everything is still fine, so my question is how come 1.2 wasnt suppose to support certain thing but still do. How to explain this n i nearly went to buy 1.3 version of the cable.
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I guess may be because cable construction is the same from v1.0 to v1.3 , and short length cable can function properly even at higher category 2 speed. problem will only surface at longer cable run

the HDMI version define machine function capability

HDMI categoty define cable speed capability

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post Dec 5 2009, 08:28 PM

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anyone using monster cable m1000hd? which can support >15.9Gbps de..
im using on lcd fullhd 32' .. damn nice...haha

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QUOTE(Dickong @ Dec 5 2009, 05:12 PM)
Let me give my story of this HDMI cable, well i was given foc Sharp HDMI cable when i bought my Sharp led lcd tv, before i start using it i am worry it wont work on bluray player as state by so n so becos my cable is version 1.2 confirm by Sharp technical people, but after i got my bd disc with the DTS master audio on n set 12bits signal deep color 4-4-4 everything was fine nothing unusual, from the early thread somebody show the chart that version 1.2 wont support 10 bit signal, n DTS m/a n DD true HD, but i have been using for days now everything is still fine, so my question is how come 1.2 wasnt suppose to support certain thing but still do. How to explain this n i nearly went to buy 1.3 version of the cable.
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Just like THX certification. If some equipment don't have THX cert doesn't mean it's inferior quality. It could even exceed THX requirements.

Just pay for cheap but decent cable. It will all be the same image as long as it can carry the signal through intact without errors. If there are errors you will know, because the picture will be corrupted or maybe even blank screen.
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QUOTE(2286 @ Dec 5 2009, 08:28 PM)
anyone using monster cable m1000hd? which can support >15.9Gbps de..
im using on lcd fullhd 32' .. damn nice...haha
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maybe you can let me know what video source you using can go up to 15Gbps? may consider getting this ultra high bitrate player and the M1000 cable to connect it...since so high Video quality bitrate.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 5 2009, 10:00 PM)
maybe you can let me know what video source you using can go up to 15Gbps? may consider getting this ultra high bitrate player and the M1000 cable to connect it...since so high Video quality bitrate..  biggrin.gif
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that mean can transfer the entire blu-ray content in a few second time, must be future prove for the 8k display to be use with 1 terabyte blu-ray disc biggrin.gif
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post Dec 5 2009, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(Amras of Nargothrond @ Dec 5 2009, 02:14 PM)
Actually I am using a HDMI cable which give as a gift when I bought my 37" LCD TV, and I haven't compare with Monster or any high speed HDMI cable.

Is not people happy or not happy with the HDMI cable. The issue here is I believe everybody in here also curious on why Monster cable or not pointing to any brand - HIGH PERFORMANCE HDMI CABLE selling so expensive, there must be something special on Monster cable, of course the special is something obvious and able to notice by any type of users, doesn't care whether the person is how sensitive to the video quality.

As one of the expert of this HIGH PERFORMANCE HDMI CABLE, should try to help us understand and give us real life example to show to us the fact. Whether a person willing to invest on these expensive HDMI cable is up to them, at least we know the pros and cons, why using high performance HDMI cable is recommended.

Personally I also want to know because I also don't believe there is a lot of different or any obvious different between expensive HDMI and budgeted HDMI cable.

If possible, don't show any technical link on High Speed/Performance HDMI cable, because not everybody understand what they talking about. Show some real fact.
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This is the video link where it shows that Monster cables are superior than other brands cable.

Monster Cable HDMI Learning Center
http://www.monstercable.com/hdmi/advanced_for_hdmi.asp
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post Dec 6 2009, 12:41 AM

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What about this Monster Cable M2000 HDMI cable? Will this benefit any of the current devices???
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post Dec 9 2009, 08:28 PM

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http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/08/wirewor...y-1-000-better/

Wireworld's Platinum Starlight HDMI cable is only US$1,000, better than your HDMI cable

You idiot. Where did you buy those cables? Walmart? You probably think you're getting the whole 1080p, don't you! Boy, you couldn't be more wrong. What the big box doesn't want you to know, with their cheap-ass $150 cables is that there are, um, waves and some, uh... electromagnetic spectrats. And they eat your pixels! Yeah, that's right! Pixel-eating EM spectrats! Not even making this stuff up. How much did you spend on that TV? $1,000? You did buy that $1,800 power cable from Furutech, right? Well, don't you think you should spend at least that much on the all-important cables that are going to funnel the dynamic 1080p transmissions from your Blu-ray player to your TV? Here, try this Platinum Starlight HDMI cable from Wireworld. It has a patent-pending DNA Helix conductor design formed by the gods themselves out of 24 solid silver conductors. Hell, $1,000 is probably a bargain for one of these one meter cables. Your eyes are worth it, after all. You're welcome.


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post Dec 9 2009, 10:11 PM

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Not all HDMI is best. Go for Gold plated. Better than the normal one.
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QUOTE(iphoneguy08 @ Dec 9 2009, 10:11 PM)
Not all HDMI is best. Go for Gold plated. Better than the normal one.
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what is the improvement of audio and video when you change to Gold plated?
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post Dec 9 2009, 11:01 PM

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obviously he didn't read the last 15pages.. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 9 2009, 10:52 PM)
what is the improvement of audio and video when you change to Gold plated?
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Gold is definitely better than silver isn't it? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(mpyw @ Dec 9 2009, 11:06 PM)
Gold is definitely better than silver isn't it? tongue.gif
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platinum better than gold? tongue.gif
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post Dec 9 2009, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(mpyw @ Dec 9 2009, 11:06 PM)
Gold is definitely better than silver isn't it? tongue.gif
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as conductor? no... silver is highest
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post Dec 9 2009, 11:19 PM

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Not never read bro. How can people afford the platinum HDMI as stated. Its very very expensive. So the most affordable cable wud the gold plated. The improvement is gold is one of the best conductor and can transfer signal with very very minimal lost compare to silver.
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QUOTE(iphoneguy08 @ Dec 9 2009, 11:19 PM)
Not never read bro. How can people afford the platinum HDMI as stated. Its very very expensive. So the most affordable cable wud the gold plated. The improvement is gold is one of the best conductor and can transfer signal with very very minimal lost compare to silver.
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dun joke la.. silver has the best conductivity... high end Hi-fi use Silver wires in their circuits...
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post Dec 9 2009, 11:33 PM

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Silver the best... prove

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_conductivity

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