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post Nov 3 2009, 04:43 PM

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Conclusion

Well, what started out as a quest to prove the fact that longer HDMI cables really matter ended up schooling me in the fact that real world performance differs very much from lab results. It also demonstrated that not all manufacturers' cables are created equal - nor will all of the cables labeled as "HDMI 1.3-ready" likely pass all of the potential aspects of category 2 (3.4 Gbps) cables without help.

I have to come away saying that most cables under 4-5 meters will pass just about anything in today's arsenal of 1080p - and that's likely to include Deep Color if and when it ever makes an appearance (not likely soon due to current Blu-ray limitations). For cables over 5 meters it's a good bet that you'll want to stick with trusted manufacturers who deliver on their specs. For long cables, Blue Jeans Cable, DVIGear, MonoPrice, Monster Cable 800HD, and WireWorld seem to be the best bets of the cables we tested - however the price variance between these cables is revealing. We're sure there are also other cables we didn't test which are also likely to perform well. Some of the other manufacturers, such as NGHP, RAM Electronics, Sewell Direct, and Tributaries also showed themselves to be great performers at <7.5 meters, however they either didn't have longer length cables or they didn't supply them in ~10 meter lengths for our testing.

Your take-away from all this should be the following:

    * At lengths less than 4 meters you can just about use silly string (OK, not really) and get HDMI to pass at any current resolution. At less than 3 meters you'll even extend that to 12-bit color and possibly the next crazy idea HDMI Licensing decides to throw at consumers. Don't spend a lot on these cables and if you want to save money you won't let anyone at a big box store talk you into buying from them.
    * At long lengths (over 10 meters) you really need to pay attention to the manufacturer if you don't want to risk running into potential problems with 1080p and future formats such as Deep Color. With that said, just about any cable at or under 10 meters will pass 720p/1080i and nearly everyone will pass 1080p at 8-bit color as well.
    * If you have an existing HDMI cable and are running into problems, we'd suggest at least attempting the insertion of an active component at the sink (display) side. This is going to be far cheaper than ripping out your walls and re-running new cables - and likely just as effective.
    * HDMI has proven to be a moving target and there is no telling what crazy (likely unnecessary) format they will try to push down the cable next. Due to this, it's always good to "overbuild" your cable install, especially if it's a longer distance and going to end up behind drywall.
    * If you're not prone to upgraditis and think 1080p will be your maximum resolution for the life of your install, don't sweat it...

There are going to be exceptions to all these "rules" but in the end I'd have to say that I really thought I'd see more differences in the real-world performances of longer-length cables. Since we're all basically pinned at 8-bit 1080p, I didn't. It's likely you won't either. So all those people saying "buy any cable you want, it doesn't matter" are, for the most part, correct - at least until manufacturers advance to 12-bit software and signal transmission. Where they are not accurate is in assuming HDMI (since it is digital) is either "on" or "off" (it either works or doesn’t). HDMI signals can be partially corrupted as you saw above. The other area in which they are off concerns the future. If and when 12-bit "Deep Color" video truly comes to market (as more than just a listed spec) individual cable situations can (and likely will) change. For this reason take all of the above measurements and principles into account and make sure you build your installation wisely.


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post Nov 3 2009, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(kianwee @ Nov 3 2009, 05:06 PM)
Audioholics
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or Audiohorny? tongue.gif
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post Nov 5 2009, 06:04 PM

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I used Monoprice all the way....tongue.gif
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post Nov 25 2009, 10:27 AM

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I cant even listen for 5 mins if using my Dune to play audio CD....
even PS3 better than it but it still darn flat and boring sound from PS3...
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post Dec 9 2009, 11:06 PM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 9 2009, 10:52 PM)
what is the improvement of audio and video when you change to Gold plated?
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Gold is definitely better than silver isn't it? tongue.gif
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post Mar 4 2010, 08:06 AM

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QUOTE(matyeo @ Mar 4 2010, 04:20 AM)
QED vs Audioquest HDMI 3....what say yall
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waste of money???? tongue.gif sweat.gif
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post Mar 5 2010, 08:21 AM

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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 5 2010, 08:12 AM)
Any recommended cables beside Monster series? icon_question.gif
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The Tesco/Carrfour RM20 one thumbup.gif

I am using monoprice RM30 one (incl shipping), as good as those RM300 one, only colour in blue and no nylon wrapping nia tongue.gif
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QUOTE(sKyWiR3pT3lTd @ Mar 5 2010, 08:22 AM)
Its not for the LCD TV , but LCD Pc im asking, sorry for not stating it clearly..
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It's the same actually...
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post Jul 12 2010, 05:53 PM

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optical cable....I got mine 1m for RM12.90 from Jusco....China brand...works wonder for my PS3 and DVD Player
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post Aug 17 2010, 08:42 AM

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me using Monoprice HDMI high speed 28AWG CL2 cable all around....all are 6ft length, so far no problem, no judder, no signal lost due to the cable or anything....very good cable for the price....if you resides in the USA, it's even cheaper than the Tesco cable tongue.gif
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post Aug 17 2010, 12:07 PM

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What will Monster/WireWorld/JPLabs/Chord/AudioQuest/XLO etc cable company selling once the wireless high bandwidth audio/video connection becoming a norm?

THX certified bigger antenna? tongue.gif

p.s. quote taken from one of the interview with one of the major speakers manufacturer...tongue.gif
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post Feb 21 2012, 09:24 AM

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luckily my no-brand 25' HDMI cable can pass through the 3D signal without any problem.....cost me RM70 you know tongue.gif sweat.gif

 

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