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 HDMI Cable Quality?, Really make a diffrent?

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robertngo
post Nov 3 2009, 09:11 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 3 2009, 07:28 PM)
good question, it'll affect the audio and video in abrupt non comfortable way.. in audio it's like DTS-MA sonic bomb or video sparklies.. or whole picture become green or flashes of white etc... 

which ever data loss effect, it surely won't make the image softer, or less bright , sound not at clean less bright,, muddled etc...
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i go to a hifi shop audition speaker package, the salesman keep insisting that HDMI cable that cost several hundred ringgit sound louder and clearer than cheap HDMI cable rclxub.gif
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post Nov 4 2009, 10:22 AM

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QUOTE(MOFARKOR @ Nov 4 2009, 10:18 AM)
correction -> Dumb Monster only buy Monster Cable
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maybe they look at the different feature offer the monster cable variant and think must get the most expensive to get all the features. like the ultra speed version that claim to deliver 120hz performance doh.gif
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post Nov 4 2009, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(jchong @ Nov 4 2009, 11:45 AM)
Should ask that salesman if he dares to do blind test. smile.gif
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i afraid after he open the box i need to buy the cable. tongue.gif
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post Nov 4 2009, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(azbro @ Nov 4 2009, 04:08 PM)
Yes..I didn't know Monster cable is like that one...
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there are many company that sell overprice cable, but monster is just being a a**hole with their legal action and over agressively pushing their product.

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:09 PM)
I tried.. USB cable free one and RM15 one.. no difference..  data came out same..  biggrin.gif
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u not yet try monster high performance USB cable

http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=1429

with

• XLN® Xtra Low Noise® construction delivers up to 400MHz of bandwidth.
• Advanced Monster® technologies meet high-speed USB 1.0 specifications.
• Heavy-duty double shielding rejects noise for faster, more reliable data transfer.
• Large gauge power conductor for low-loss power transfer to self-powered USB devices.
• Duraflex® protective jacket is flexible for easy routing and storage.

or Denon mind blowingly awesome $499 ethernet cable

http://www.usa.denon.com/ProductDetails/3429.asp

P.S anyone know if monster have takeover Denon??

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post Nov 5 2009, 09:16 AM

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QUOTE(anfieldude @ Nov 5 2009, 09:03 AM)
moomoos,

Was there less noise in the images?


Added on November 5, 2009, 9:06 am

Isn't there enuf redundacy in the transmission that can take care of this?  I was under the impression that there were checks and balances on the HDMI transmission on the receiving side. But of course I cold be wrong.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transition_Mi...ntial_Signaling

TMDS is use by HDMI for error correction.
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post Nov 5 2009, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(Scud_eSpade @ Nov 5 2009, 09:24 PM)
Well, seems a lot of you is very good in theory. but you guys are missing something. Its true a digital signal is either ON or OFF. But in real life, the signal is more like analog (sine wave) due to resistance or others

no need to buy expensive cable. my company is developing alternative to HDMI using optical. Will save you a lot of buck next year.
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your company is developing a rival connection to a universally supported connection standard? what port it will be connected to?
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post Nov 6 2009, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(Scud_eSpade @ Nov 6 2009, 07:31 AM)
its the HDMI standard but using optical instead of copper in the transmission line. So you can imagine something like fiber optic (but its not). small only unlike copper. hope it will be ready by next year sweat.gif
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there is already HDMI extender using fiber optic, how will this be different, if your entire connection is fiber optic, how does the standard HDMI port accept the optical signal??
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QUOTE(jchong @ Dec 4 2009, 09:25 AM)
Again you are confusing the issues. Understandably as a Monster reseller you want to push your Monster cables, but please get your facts straight and know the difference between the theoretical and practical.

So what if your Monster Ultra 800 HDMI cable is called "Advanced High Speed" and can achieve greater than 6.68 Gbps and exceeds 1080p resolution requirements? Please explain the practical benefits of this.
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looks like according to monster the standard speed only can support DVD and HD broadcast

QUOTE
Maximum performance from upconverting DVD players and standard high definition digital TVs and sources.


High speed for 1080p and HD sound

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Increased bandwidth for 1080p video performance and high-resolution multi-channel audio


Advance high speed can get ultra high definition 1080p, i dont know there is actually a ultra-high version of 1080p. and theater quality sound? is it better that the HD audio provided by high speed cable???

QUOTE
Greater cable bandwidth for ultra-high definition 1080p video, extended color, and theater-quality sound from high definition home theaters


Ultra high speed is where the claim get even more insane, are they saying 120HZ tv dont work with their other cable, the HD loseless audio only work on this "ultra high speed" cable rclxub.gif

why is it my low end cable able to support all these feature ?

QUOTE
Increased cable capacity for support of advanced source and display technologies, such as 120 Hz frame/refresh rates, x.v.Color™, and lossless compressed Dolby® TrueHD and DTS-HD™ surround.


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QUOTE(ar188 @ Dec 5 2009, 10:00 PM)
maybe you can let me know what video source you using can go up to 15Gbps? may consider getting this ultra high bitrate player and the M1000 cable to connect it...since so high Video quality bitrate..  biggrin.gif
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that mean can transfer the entire blu-ray content in a few second time, must be future prove for the 8k display to be use with 1 terabyte blu-ray disc biggrin.gif
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post Dec 9 2009, 10:52 PM

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QUOTE(iphoneguy08 @ Dec 9 2009, 10:11 PM)
Not all HDMI is best. Go for Gold plated. Better than the normal one.
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what is the improvement of audio and video when you change to Gold plated?
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QUOTE(Vinceyang @ Dec 10 2009, 11:02 AM)
monster cable will out of business by then? biggrin.gif
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no, they will sell $2000 wireless receiver that have super duper secret algorithm that enhance the wireless transfer to make you image super sharp and audio super crips.
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a good summary on the issue of HDMI cable quality

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post Apr 9 2010, 12:02 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Apr 7 2010, 04:43 PM)
for long cable run, monster cable actually performed very well, some cheap no-brand cable will have trouble transferring video data in high speed through long cable, it will not maintain eye pattern very well which measure the digital 1 and 0 signal integrity.

for short cable run, any cables will do just fine

monster is good cable, but its price is a rip-off
monoprice, blue-jean,... also good quality cable, with reasonable price
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the monster cable are likely to be much more durable than cheap cable in heavy duty usage also. but for the 99% of home user we just plug in the cable from av receiver or player located just next to the tv and never touch the cable again for years.

 

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