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neb
post Dec 9 2009, 11:47 PM

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silver will form silver oxide in open air environment, not suitable for electrical contact, gold is the best

actually it is gold alloy, which consisted of for example: Au Ag Pd Ni In Sn

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post Dec 9 2009, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Dec 9 2009, 11:47 PM)
silver will form silver oxide in open air environment, not suitable for electrical contact, gold is the best
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we were talking about electrical conductivity of material... which the person was comparing and saying gold is better than silver.. which is wrong..

besides no one still have proven gold plating in electrical contact over regular tin plated contacts will improve the video quality via HDMI cable in a factual manner....
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post Dec 9 2009, 11:54 PM

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actually i had googled this Qs b4 when i try to get myself a HDMI cable not long ago. in the end i just end up buying a normal 1, no need for a high end 1 as there is NO difference that u can tell, better save the extra bucks and buy something which is more worth the money. u can refer this quoted from yahoo answers

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"First, when speaking of HDMI (or any digital cable for that matter), cable quality DOES NOT make a difference in picture quality. As long as a digital signal is making it from one end of the cable to the other, the picture will be as good as it can be. What cable quality WILL make a difference on is on how long the cable will last. Obviously a sturdier cable will last longer. Monster cable and the salesman making a huge commission selling them will tell you it makes a difference. I am here to tell you that in terms of digital cabling, quality makes no difference in picture/sound quality AT ALL.

Secondly, digital to analog and analog to digital conversion does not come into play in this instance. The fact that your TV had an HDMI cable tells us that it is a digital TV. The digital disc is read and the digital image/sound is transported through the HDMI cable to the digital TV. End of story. There is no conversion because the signal stays in the digital realm from start to finish. That's why HDMI is better than component. With component, the digital signal is read from the disc, converted to an analog signal, transported by cable to the digital TV, where it is converted back to a digital signal. In this instance, digital to analog and analog to digital converters, as well as cable quality, all come into play. But you didn't ask about component, you asked about HDMI...

Buy the cheapest HDMI cable you can find and feel confident that you have the best picture and sound that your TV can produce."


link/source : http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qi...13080612AAUeb3X

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post Dec 10 2009, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 9 2009, 10:52 PM)
what is the improvement of audio and video when you change to Gold plated?
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As far as I know, gold plating is for the purpose of corrosion resistance (and making it look expensive). Nothing to do with improved conductivity.

Also the gold plating is normally on the jacks and plugs. I haven't heard of the wire strands being gold plated.
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post Dec 10 2009, 10:52 AM

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look ma, no wire! rclxm9.gif
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post Dec 10 2009, 11:02 AM

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monster cable will out of business by then? biggrin.gif
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post Dec 10 2009, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(Vinceyang @ Dec 10 2009, 11:02 AM)
monster cable will out of business by then? biggrin.gif
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no, they will sell $2000 wireless receiver that have super duper secret algorithm that enhance the wireless transfer to make you image super sharp and audio super crips.
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post Dec 10 2009, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(robertngo @ Dec 10 2009, 11:09 AM)
no, they will sell $2000 wireless receiver that have super duper secret algorithm that enhance the wireless transfer to make you image super sharp and audio super crips.
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ha ha. biggrin.gif
monster cable should hire u as their marketing director?
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post Dec 20 2009, 10:47 PM

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anyone know the price of hdmi extender over Cat5
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post Dec 20 2009, 11:03 PM

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someone selling a pair for us$35 in ebay, must use cat5e/cat6, 30m extension
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post Jan 23 2010, 09:57 AM

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Something to read about HDMI cables:
http://www.digitaltips.org/video/HDMIcables.asp


What's the Difference: How to Know Which HDMI Cable to Choose?

Not all cables are created equal, and it's important to make sure the cable you're buying will meet your needs. If you're planning on connecting components that will require faster data transfer rates, you'll want the newest version of HDMI, and not the original HDMI 1.0.

It's important to get cables that are durable. They should be well-constructed with shielding to keep the signals clean. The longer the cable, the higher quality you will want to ensure that data isn't lost.

Even if you don't have an immediate need for high-definition,getting a well-constructed cable that exceeds current standards will future-proof your purchase - an important step in an industry that moves as fast as the consumer electronics industry does. If you're planning on installing cables in walls, you certainly don't want t rip out old cabling an start over.

HDMI cables deliver the true HD video and audio experience.

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post Jan 23 2010, 10:21 AM

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Monster HDMI cable cost = RM 300
Normal HDMI cable cost = RM 15 (TESCO)

Both giving same Picture quality.
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post Jan 23 2010, 10:38 AM

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Cable quality matters when it comes to analog signals like RCAs and speaker cables. However, when you are talking about digital signals which are a bunch of 10011100101010101110 . . . . . I find it difficult to justify spending thousands on digital cables because there is not much that can go wrong. Its either a 1 or a 0, there is no in between.

Just my 2 sen. Forgive my ignorance if any . . . .
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post Jan 23 2010, 11:41 AM

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you are wrong! on long cable run, digital signal will get attenuated, then it will go wrong, 1 become 0, and 0 become 1 brows.gif
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post Jan 23 2010, 11:47 AM

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so the picture become less sharp or dull color? tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2010, 11:55 AM

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error correction will kick in to recover inverted bits until it is too much to handle, then everything shut down, you will get black screen with HDCP protection meaasge tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2010, 02:39 PM

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aiyo, buy belkin hdmi cable lor..... RM70+-.... not so cheap and not so expensive....... feel better...... tongue.gif and the PQ also not bad...... using it to hook up with my htpc and toshiba 42ZV600.....
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post Jan 23 2010, 03:18 PM

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is it true that Monster cable provide lifetime warranty with lifetime upgrade?
eg: if i buy monster hdmi cable v1.0, when 1.3 released, i get free upgrade to 1.3, then free upgrade to 1.4...1.5...1.6?

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QUOTE(mynewuser @ Jan 23 2010, 10:21 AM)
Monster HDMI cable cost = RM 300
Normal HDMI cable cost = RM 15 (TESCO)

Both giving same Picture quality.
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post Jan 23 2010, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(neb @ Jan 23 2010, 11:55 AM)
error correction will kick in to recover  inverted bits until it is too much to handle, then everything shut down, you will get black screen with HDCP protection meaasge tongue.gif
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unfortunately HDMI no error correction.. biggrin.gif so there will be missing bits of information if used not so good cables.. (but we shouldn't confuse not so good cables with price, as freebie cables can just be as good as those RM200 cables..)

the question is why people think missing bits from HDMI transmission equate to softer picture or less "NICE" colors?? hmm.gif don't they understand digital/analog differences? laugh.gif


Added on January 23, 2010, 4:01 pm
QUOTE(Skylinestar @ Jan 23 2010, 03:18 PM)
is it true that Monster cable provide lifetime warranty with lifetime upgrade?
eg: if i buy monster hdmi cable v1.0,  when 1.3 released, i get free upgrade to 1.3, then free upgrade to 1.4...1.5...1.6?
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I think in AVS forum mention before, it only applies to certain range of cable.. maybe top range monster?

anyway can always ask your local LYN forumer which sells it.. biggrin.gif can upgrade free or not to V1.4 biggrin.gif

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