QUOTE(DaddyGuitar @ Nov 25 2010, 10:05 AM)
Hi everyone,
Glad to have found this amazing forum and hope some kind souls can assist me.
A short intro. As my nick suggest, I'm shopping for a full size solid top classical guitar for my daughter. Upgrading from a 3/4 Valencia. It's coming to the end of the second year and time to upgrade.
MOD,
This place is sooo big! Let me know if I have posted in the incorrect sub-forum.

I have took my daughter around to 'feel' the various brands available in the market and There are a few guitars with their own unique questions and for the first, I'd like to start with the LaPatrie ETUDE.
Has anyone owned this guitar before? I understand that it has a truss rod to correct bowing, but because it is a thinner neck, its it more prone to warping compared to, say, a regular neck of a Alhamra or Yamaha without truss rods.?
Thanks!
QUOTE(la bella @ Nov 25 2010, 11:11 AM)
You are asking in the right place. No worries.
I have never came across with a classical guitar with truss rod, I think 90% of the classical guitars do not have truss rod. I understand the reason of the use of truss rod on steel strings guitar because steel strings have higher tension and tends to wrap the neck, so we need to the truss rod to adjust the neck relief.
Classical normally have thicker neck, the relief is planned into the neck when the guitar is built, and the nylon strings has lower tension, in this case, it doesn't require a truss rod. You mentioned about the La Patrie guitar has thinner neck, I think it's more prone to warping compared to thicker neck classical guitar. So they place a truss rod in the guitar.
EDIT: You tried this guitar in guitarcollection?
for a traditional classical actually without truss rod but nowadays, even cheap classical can have truss rod also. for spanish or european guitar, usually the neck is slightly thicker. if go for asian or china guitar, neck will be thinner compare with spanish tradition type. About La Patrie guitar, it's written canada guitar, but the one that i saw before, rosette look familiar like alhambra and some other china brand guitar. besides, some structure make me doubt it origin manufacture.
QUOTE(yeehoo @ Nov 26 2010, 10:18 AM)
That's the China make product, you can get it from Woh Fatt, but I got report from friend that it's suction cup not that suck (heheh) and the shape did not suite the guitar very well. You can try it and see.

Added on November 26, 2010, 10:57 amI think you worry about the wrong aspect of classical guitar. There is no danger of warping neck as long as you take good care of your guitar ie. don't put it in a hot place like back of your car.
No matter what brand, most important things you need to consider is alway the sound (tone) make by the guitar, compare the sound first instead of physical aspect of the guitar. You also need play EVERY notes, EVERY position of the guitar to check whether you get any buzzing sound (especially higher position)
you can also check what kind of wood it use. to ease your fear of warping neck, try to go for ebony for the finger board, ebony is very hard wood. Check sound board for solid wood. Most classical guitar use Cedar or Spruce sound board. Cedar is cheaper with sweeter sound, Spruce is brighter but more expensive because it has better projection.
As for the "easier' neck, sometime we just need to adjust our technique to suit a good guitar.

Any, if you looking for mid-range student guitars, my suggestion is Manuel Rodriguez. It is the best money-for-value guitar you can get. It mid-range student guitar price at 2k-5k. Directly from Spain, world famous brand (MR also make concert guitar worth RM20-30k), great sound and craftsmanship. Check it out.

yes, the suction cup really not that suck, but a least it won't drop when you playing. the one that i have can be adjust, so far still ok.
as a player, tone of the guitar is important than the brand. different wood produce different sound. cedar sound more mellow while spruce have a brighter sound but doesn't mean it's cheaper than spruce. both top have different purpose and like by different player.
manuel rodriguez manufacture in china, only certain model made in spain. so far one of the model that i try before sound quite loud, it's laminated brazillian rosewood (if not mistake), wood texture very nice, but the sound not my taste and the price a little over.