it worth every penny bro ! never regret this ...
I really enjoy my SAL1118

Flash First !
U can keep on buyin different lens - F1.4 la , constant F2.8 la
... but Flash photography is a different chapter already ..

i njoy mine tooo..

no good photo yet from the lens..still experimenting

SAL1118, wow!

im thinking to get either 50mm or 1118 first but 1118 really look marvellous!

might get one too soon.

My suggestion ..
If u travel a lot n love to take landscape pic - then go for SAL1118
If u love potrait or product shot or doing wedding assign - then better go for 50mm

Btw , i own a 50mm before , sold it for SAL1118

Thanks Should i test it first at the shop? Really bummer if go back home and it doesn't work.What to test ya? Just use the test button only?

flash ftw!! the bounce light pictures really looks nice.. better then direct stock flash if u ask me..

50mm later can get lar..

but as achew said.. if your a bokeh freak, then u need the 50mm.. im more to bokeh but you still need flash if your planning to shoot people at night..

if u are planing for wedding/product even portrait, reconsider for tammy 1750 F2.8, for 1.5k,

although some will say the 1.4/1.8 is very much different with F2.8, my experince with 50F1.4, wedding assignment, i dont use 1.4, as the bokeh is too much, usually i will use F2.0-2.8, as for product, i uses from F2.8-F8 depending, F1.4 dof is too shallow when going close up. tammy has wide angle so u may shoot group photo too. they create diff perspective on close up for portrait, wedding or products (oh dear, tammy the next poison?)
but, many claim that 50mm prime has very very high IQ(sharpness) then tammy and i agree (tammy iq is better then kitlens), but with all the photo that we going to resize to 800px (or 1024px) to upload or develop out (only req 2mp quality)... our >10mp pic wont matter anyway.

as for the flash issue, do u often shoot at night? or mostly daylight?
i) if daylight/outdoor, and sucker for bokeh, tammy or 50mm way to go... if on perform so so indoor, unless u have A550/700/850/900 for it's marvelous iso800-3200. A380 and below, thier iso800 are just not really brings out the sharpness of 50mm
ii) but if u are night shooter/lowlight/indoor...you MUST get flash first, always flash, not because of WL or bounce or marco etc, but because, once u get it, any lens u purchase later, the lenses will benefit from it.

my 2 cent of experince

so, depend on ur shooting style if u right, buy all 3, 50mm, tammy, F58

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Added on October 31, 2009, 10:36 amnaruto-kun~~, why not bring ur camera along and test kao kao? fast fast lor... F58~~ (hehehehehehehehe)

This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 31 2009, 10:39 AM

hehe achew same gang with me. Gila bokeh gang. achew go buy the 35mm G maaaaaaaaaaaaaaan. Maaaaaaaaaanyak sui itu lens on A850.

no la uncle, he want STF rite now..

Atill want to poison f58 Get f42 first then later can play around with tammy sp90

i was like what is tammy
went to google, and TAMRON,haha!

that so many poison already. last time for xbox, the xbox geng kaw2 racun me for elite set. end up i sold my xbox white and get an elite set instead!

so many hobby can kill u!....or ur wallet.

STF is big lens. Cannot walkabout with it. 35mm G lens nice little kicimiao can go walkabout n bokeh everything in sight. Kakaka

Then again teh bokehmon setup his shoots inside with danbo & clone trooper as his models. Dont think there's any problem with it

wah ini uncle banyak kuat poison wor... i just receive my cz1680... wow really big improvement over my kit lens!!!

btw can anyone please help enlighten me whats wrong with the pic? i got the feeling that the it was overexposed and the background quite dark.
play thru the exposure -+g. i direct the flash to bounce off the ceiling.

shutter speed 1/60, f 4.0, spot metering. iso 100, +0.3 EV.

congrats ...enjoy the contrast and colour produce by the lens..

(heheheheeheh)
but the F58 can bend the head downward to shoot marco worrrr, i think F42 cant...

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Added on October 31, 2009, 11:34 amupddate ur gearvity~ lol, congrat on ur cz1680, now time to post pic and poison othersssss... (hehehehehehehe)

This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 31 2009, 11:34 AM

whats bokeh? lol

spot metering can be tricky.. use center weighted, local metering (choose ur local point focus), ISO200, raise ur F42 90degrees.. try this,

after that, try with AEL function plak..

first, i think u activated vivid color, thus the red is very deep red (not excately overexpose)


as for the flash, open up the white card (diffuser) to push a little light into the front) as for the background, well, learn the bouncing ball technique, at which angle the light goes up the ceiling, at what angle it comes down... the light is almost impossible to brighten up the whole room (unless u have high ceiling), maybe u can try the buildin wideangle diffuser plate... or, boost ur iso to 400 to able to absord the background light(dont worry bout the flash, it will auto adjust not to overexpose)

*edit: oh, MechaHerc was right, i didnt notice u wrote spot metering, use the multi metering or centre.

This post has been edited by ieR: Oct 31 2009, 11:46 AM