i also dunno what's trail for. mcm xc only.

went 2 loops at kdcf in the afternoon. trail changed alot, a few fallen trees on the trail, had to detour. added about 1 minute to ride. only managed to do it in 13 minutes, cannot beat the lerun or the tbolt record

but climbing much nicer with the hfs frame. lol

after that went to lbs fix headset, was making weird sound. so around 14km.

then 8.30 join night ride at FRIM, 18km. the rest of the riders were damn strong , could barely keep up. light wasnt bright enough to go fast on the DH sections, had several near crashed cos of cornering and seeing obstacles late. still need to improve alot lol.

trail is more like filling a gap between XC and AM. xc 100mm travel, trail 120-140mm, AM 150-180mm.

xc steep head and seat tube angles, long stems, flat bars, bar ends . AM and trail about the same angles, same wide riser bars, short stems i think.

i think so too. or maybe bike companies are plugging non existent holes in the market? like the bmw x6?

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Added on November 27, 2009, 1:32 amany1 wanna buy 2010 specialized epic?

http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/upda...d-and-pro-24138

cracks found

This post has been edited by radmaszeal: Nov 27 2009, 01:32 AM

i thnk it's balance between weight (speed) and toughness.

XC is mean for
-higher speeding
-off road (emphasis on "still some road")
-lighter component, less tough compare to am part

AM
-lower speed
-tougher part thus heavier
-any terrain

trail is usually at 140mm. 150-180 is freeride/light downhill territory edi lol.

now FR/DH is 180mm-200mm edi

FR/DH 180mm is 2 years ago

only DH is 200mm lol.

freeride and light downhill is ard the 150-180mm area

Next thing ya know.. they'll have ABS brakes.

Wooot.How much will this be?Looks nice!

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Added on November 27, 2009, 10:14 amHOPE sialll!!!How much for those brakes bro?Is this 4 pot?

This post has been edited by dinraxxx: Nov 27 2009, 10:14 AM

Dunno about Malaysia and Aeris got many diff models. Should be around the same as the RST FIRST kwa.

thx all for helping me to clarify.
So in short...

XC components focuses on weight
AM components focuses on toughness.

in terms of usage...no difference.


so theoritically...i can use AM components on XC bike but compromising weight. rite?

dinraxxx...
no bro...not the 4-pot m4.
this is the 24mm 2-pot v2!

Well, u come out with it, you will be super rich.
Come come... let's design it.

Meaning no endo for noobies.

UNker xand, my bike is AM, your bike is XC... how come my bike lighter than yours one?

And on your berak... kesian la... no ppl know anything about your hope. Which model also we donno. Kekeke...

Basically you can use any component on any frame. There's people building weight weenie AM bikes also but then it won't be strong enough to actually do much without kena skewered by broken off KCNC seatpost etc... and vice versa.. what's the point of building an Abram tank XC bike.. it'll be too heavy.

So my suggestion... choose one:

1) Hold your horses... keep money in bank or send it this way (PM me for my bank account)... and ride more.

2) Choose a direction and focus towards that.. if you think you'll be doing mainly XC.. get the best components for that and vice versa for trail/AM/DH

3) Upgrade your Anthem X towards "Trail", get a Reign, get Driver 8 and get a Cervelo. Then you have everything... oh... + a folding bike for mamak.

hahahaha...
bcoz like u said...
my Anthem is a gap filler only...
equipping it with bling before changing frame maaaa...

and the brakes...
it shouts subtly...
so i m good...

actually the limit start from frame. 4" anthem will not be plushy as a 5".
like F1 compare to Dakar rally car. one is light for speed; another is toughness. in between hybrid will no win

ill choose number 1!
thx sniper.
this is actually making some sense to me right now.


i better stop spending and start riding.

I think there's a term for that... my malay rusty di... Ahhh.. yes... Its called

--> PONDAN

else build ur own batcave with 1 XC, 1 AM, 1 DH, n 1 folding. when you have mission, you choose the best bike..

this is agree!
jack of all trades master of none.
so i'll focus towards XC/trail.

what do i need to do to make anthem into trail focused?

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Added on November 27, 2009, 10:56 amAM = 7-7.5" travel?
DH = 8" travel double crown?

or can an AM bike be used for DH?

This post has been edited by xandman: Nov 27 2009, 10:56 AM

then u need a thule roof with 3 carried "the folding can put in boot". your mother ship will launch bike as u go...

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Added on November 27, 2009, 10:57 amwat pedal u using? err spd?

This post has been edited by chamelion: Nov 27 2009, 10:57 AM

chamelion...
u tokking to me?
i m using crank bros. 50/50 X.

1 rack oso koyak d...now 3 racks?
i die liao!