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Stormy001_M1A2
post Jan 21 2011, 10:04 AM

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Anyone can confirm with me that Samsung quality is subpar and not very sturdy? I heard a lot of Samsung users complained about their LCD TV break down especially the capacitors in 2 years from date of purchase.

Cheers.

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post Jan 21 2011, 11:08 AM

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QUOTE(Stormy001_M1A2 @ Jan 21 2011, 10:04 AM)
Anyone can confirm with me that Samsung quality is subpar and not very sturdy? I heard a lot of Samsung users complained about their LCD TV break down especially the capacitors in 2 years from date of purchase.

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Really? Yesterday i was in the middle decision between Samsung & Sharp but choose Samsung due to friend recommend & after compare the color, contrast & visual sharpness on the shop demo.

I think current most LCD panel QC were just only soso , doesn't matter what brand all got problem.

All i know is SONY has back-light problems on some of the models.

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post Jan 21 2011, 05:25 PM

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QUOTE(DEz012 @ Jan 21 2011, 12:08 PM)
Really? Yesterday i was in the middle decision between Samsung & Sharp but choose Samsung due to friend recommend & after compare the color, contrast & visual sharpness on the shop demo.

I think current most LCD panel QC were just only soso , doesn't matter what brand all got problem.

All i know is SONY has back-light problems on some of the models.
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Date: Jan 11, 2010

Samsung LCD televisions are the subject of a class action investigation that may result in the filing of a lawsuit. The national law firm of Lieff Cabraser Heimann & Bernstein, LLP is taking consumer information regarding Samsung LCD televisions that are experiencing trouble turning on and/or staying on are the focus of the potential litigation. Click this link to access their site and give them your tale of woe as a Samsung customer http://www.lieffcabraser.com/defects/samsung-lcd.htm . The squeaky wheel gets the grease, as the saying goes, so squeak away!

If you've already had the misfortune of having to pay to get your Samsung repaired, if you still have your receipt for the repair you might mention that as well when you contact them. Who knows, you might recoup some $$$ since you can prove it.

Many Samsung LCD sets are suffering from component failure in their power supplies within 1-2 years of purchase. Samsung at this point has refused to acknowledge that this problem even exists and therefore offers no resolution, hence the lawsuit.

Those televisions that have the defect usually develop it over time. You may start to notice that it is taking longer and longer for your Samsung television to turn on. The next symptom is usually where the LCD begins to turn itself off and on repeatedly and can take several minutes to several hours before it will come on and stay on. Other televisions have also been reported to have red or pink "static" in the picture as well.


The cause of the failure is from some capacitors in the power supply that can no longer handle the voltage on them and begin to break down. Usually one to three of these capacitors will fail at the same time and will be physically near each other. A visual inspection of the caps is a dead give-away, as the tops of these caps are swollen and rounded on top, as opposed to being flat under normal conditions.

It's a shame that three or four dollars worth of parts can cause so much aggravation for consumers. But maybe Samsung will now do the right thing, whether they want to or not.

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post Jan 21 2011, 09:50 PM

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Hi all. Looking for some advice from the experts here. I'm planning to purchase a TV but am unsure of which to go for. The options are as below:

1. Samsung LA40C550 or LG 42LD460TA (LCD's)
2. Samsung UA40C6200 or LG 42LE5300 (LED's)

Currently I'm leaning more towards the LCD options as they are obviously cheaper than the LED's. But I don't mind forking out some extra $$$ if the LED's are better value for money.

Any advice and feedback is greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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post Jan 22 2011, 02:32 AM

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Want to ask why some of the Panasonic model not available in Malaysia for example the Panasonic TC-P42G25 and the closest similar model i can found in Malaysia is Panasonic TH-P42V20K because the review on Here for TC-P42G25 is not bad and it is only selling at $850 which is RM2600..is there any difference between these two model and why Malaysia doesn't have the TC-P42G25 model? icon_question.gif and what is the price of TH-P42V20K?

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post Jan 23 2011, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(Stormy001_M1A2 @ Jan 21 2011, 05:25 PM)
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this is true for my Samsung LCD monitor. capacitor dead after 3 years while other brands are still ok sweat.gif

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post Jan 23 2011, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(cloudstrife07 @ Jan 23 2011, 01:07 PM)
this is true for my Samsung LCD monitor. capacitor dead after 3 years while other brands are still ok sweat.gif
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My Samsung monitor is still ok after 2yrs....fingers crossed sweat.gif But I did hear from some electronic repairmen that Samsung TVs are unreliable, ie. they receive more Samsung TVs to be repaired than other brands. On the other hand, maybe its due to more people buying Samsung LCDs?
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my SHARP AQUOS is still working great after 3 years. Hope it will continue forever ever...he...he.
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QUOTE(SyriuS @ Jan 23 2011, 06:52 PM)
My Samsung monitor is still ok after 2yrs....fingers crossed  sweat.gif  But I did hear from some electronic repairmen that Samsung TVs are unreliable, ie. they receive more Samsung TVs to be repaired than other brands. On the other hand, maybe its due to more people buying Samsung LCDs?
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I heard from my fren who are a electrical appliance technician say:
Samsong spare part are cheap compare to other brands...
Maybe....They know spare part will be use by many of their user..
So, lower the price...
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post Jan 29 2011, 02:56 PM

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Thanks to all the LED/LCD Guru's out there for your time regarding this.

Samsung LA40C530 or LG 42LD460/42LD450?
1) Mainly used for mom seeing astro/astro beyond
2) Used for Animations from 480p-720p(Using External non powered HDD or portable HDD), would be great with 1080p as well
3) Contemplating on using a hd media player instead of built in..need recommendations for this...
4) Can I use HDMI connecting from laptop/notebook to the TV? Would it burn my graphics card in the long run?
5) Should i go LED technology instead? Since its newer and new confirms the availability of spare parts in the coming 5-10years?...
6) Really hoping for good quality audio for the paid price as I'm really fussy when it comes to audio quality.

Really having a headache choosing as this is my first time contemplating over purchasing a LED/LCD/Plasma TV... My main focus is for it to last a long and reasonable time in both terms of durability and repair(Spare part availability)

Thanks alot!

also about UA40C5000 for samsung and corresponding LED tv within its price range?

Planning to get it before Chinese New year..
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post Jan 29 2011, 10:43 PM

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Hi all the Sifus,

I wanted to know how to find out the usage hours of the LG LED tv. I have ordered the LG47LE7500 this afternoon and it will be delivered and installed by the shop tomorrow afternoon - want to make sure that the unit is new and not displayed or returned unit.
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post Feb 1 2011, 04:37 AM

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planning to buy a fullHD 50" Plasma after finished reading all pages of this thread.

a lot prefer Panasonic but yet Panasonic have this problem of black levels degrading as times goes by. post #682
so which is the best brand & model in the market now other than Pioneer, budget around 3 to 4.5k? any good place + great price to search in Klang Valley?

requirements:

full hd
50"
plasma
budget around 3-4.5k
use mainly for astro, games (xbox360 / wii), movies

so for Plasma is it adviceable not to watch movie in letterbox format or leave any blank space while watching? how long is long for the burn-in to take effect?

thanks

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post Feb 4 2011, 04:17 PM

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Although my budget was small around <RM2K, I had problems to decide between Plasma / LED or even an LCD, since price of LCD is getting much cheaper for a 40-42 inch full HD. I was at this shop in Taipan which same row with OCBC bank which is the first corner shop when u drive (1-way). The sales person looks like chindian explains very well btw Plasma & LED. The conclusion is whether the buyer wants an LCD LED or a Plasma TV (full HD or HD ready) and what actually satisfies the most when the buyer compare the picture contrast and quality. This shop has Astro Beyond and I could clearly see huge difference btw an LED and Plasma - But PLEASE don't compare the both due to two different technologies. Best to compare LED to LED with another brand or Plasma to Plasma with diff brand - that make more sense and logic.

I would say Plasma with full HD with a high contrast was better in color contrast and the display was very clear which I felt it shows the original color of what exactly on the other side. Again the difference btw HD Ready and Full HD there is difference in terms of contrast within Plasma. Panasonic 40inch was selling at RM1799 HD Ready.

Unfortunately I was recommended for Samsung LED which of course brighter in color due to LED back lite. Due to budget constraint I bought a Philips 32 inch LED PFL5605 for RM1770 with extended warranty (3 + 2 years) at Legends SS2/75 - the lowest in town I guess.

[/b] Hopefully I can get another unit which would be a Plasma 40 or 42 inch but first read this link if someone still prefers for PLASMA - http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/articles/pl...een-differences

Never ever purchase a TV from Harvey Norman due to the price is away higher then other shops.

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post Feb 4 2011, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(willy7774 @ Feb 4 2011, 04:17 PM)
Although my budget was small around <RM2K, I had problems to decide between Plasma / LED or even an LCD, since price of LCD is getting much cheaper for a 40-42 inch full HD.  I was at this shop in Taipan which same row with OCBC bank which is the first corner shop when u drive (1-way).  The sales person looks like chindian explains very well btw Plasma & LED.  The conclusion is whether the buyer wants an LCD LED or a Plasma TV (full HD or HD ready) and what actually satisfies the most when the buyer compare the picture contrast and quality.  This shop has Astro Beyond and I could clearly see huge difference btw an LED and Plasma - But PLEASE don't compare the both due to two different technologies.  Best to compare LED to LED with another brand or Plasma to Plasma with diff brand - that make more sense and logic.

I would say Plasma with full HD with a high contrast was better in color contrast and the display was very clear which I felt it shows the original color of what exactly on the other side. Again the difference btw HD Ready and Full HD there is difference in terms of contrast within Plasma. Panasonic 40inch was selling at RM1799 HD Ready.

Unfortunately I was recommended for Samsung LED which of course brighter in color due to LED back lite.  Due to budget constraint I bought a Philips 32 inch LED PFL5605 for RM1770 with extended warranty (3 + 2 years) at Legends SS2/75 - the lowest in town I guess.

[/b] Hopefully I can get another unit which would be a Plasma 40 or 42 inch but first read this link if someone still prefers for PLASMA - http://www.digitaldirect.co.uk/articles/pl...een-differences

Never ever purchase a TV from Harvey Norman due to the price is away higher then other shops.
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2 things to consider when choosing between Plasma and LED.

1. Consider the brightness of your house TV room and the showroom room. Plasma works better in normal room and LED in very bright room. Big chain stores lighting are super bright which suits LED better but you don't see those type of brightness in normal house.

2. Consider Plasma screen's reflection which can be a problem in some house. But some LED has same amount of reflection.
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Hello, newbie here... I wish ask about plasma.. since many of you discussed its pros and cons.

I wish to buy but i'm more concerned about plasma burn-in effect...

However, my family have some bad attitude while watching tv...
1. pause video (screen not moving at all) while playing DVD-disc for 2~4 hours there without stop... and go for doing something else...
2. Prefer TV button switch off or standby instead of real power switch off.
3. maximum up to 4~5 hours resting time for TV... per day


Will this all cause burn-in easily? I' wish to buy a reliable plasma TV. Currenly I'm looking for this and still under my consideration.

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Agree above - especially when the surrounding lights are extremely bright the better LED looks in contrast and you see better quality in color. Now that the condition of the hall where the Plasma is going to be located is kinda important too - if people in the house is gng to walk back and forth you are gng to see some reflection of their shadow - it is a known issue with Plasma. However there are Plasma which I saw back in Taipan when it was switch off between the few Plasma's on the wall, the one with Black screen was better with no reflection but the one with Grey screen has reflection. Better watch out for that. One thing "Plasma gives a real life color" compare to LED/LCD" - watch for your self in Taipan, Legends SS2/75 and some one mention in Bangsar Shopping Mall in this forum (I think the new one) has a TV shop which can make comparison using Blueray.

Secondly if you are crazy about playing game for long house - you should not stress your Plasma for long due to "burn-in" which can happen but hard to say base on people's comment. I got a fren using Plasma Full HD for 5 years (46 inch) but no issue so far. The first 100 hours it is advisable not to push the Plasma to the max - Example watching to much of animated movies and simply leaving the Plasma to run without switching off (frequent mishandle) can cause life span to be shorter.

1. You will have a ghost image but put a movie in or watch TV for a little while! you wont even notice doing that! Or let your screen banner roll on for 15 mins poof gone! I can deal with that but not when your playing fast games or watching fast pace movies & the screen is bright as hell for one second & goes black real quick & the LCD has a second of old picture frame left!

2. The reason I give plasma the edge is in the quality of non-HD programming. Regular standard Dish (Astro analog) signal will look great on Panasonic, while it looks horrible on LCD Full HD -> Old Astro cannot work well with Full HD but will look better with HD ready UNLESS you use Full HD with Astro Beyond.

3. Here is my theory (whether other agree or not you have to survey all out and make comparison and what you prefer at a very first glance when you look at LED and Plasma)

Want cheap, good and bigger in size - Plasma

Want cheap but also want play game - LCD

4. Plasma Burn-In

Burn-in: This occurs when an image such as a network logo or letterbox bars--gets etched permanently onto the screen because it sits in one place too long (In your case, the game you played most probably had the same constant background image and you played it for a long period of time within the first 100 hours of it's lifespan). In our experience, this issue has been greatly exaggerated. The burn-in risk is greatest during the first 100 or so hours of use, during which time you should keep contrast low (less than 50 percent) and avoid showing static images for hours at a time. Many plasmas also have burn-in-reduction features such as screen savers and pixel orbiting, or functions to treat burn-in once it occurs, such as causing the screen to go all white.

Plasma lifespan: Most plasma makers today rate their latest models as having a lifespan of up to 100,000 hours before the display fades to half brightness. On average, that works out to more than 17 years before the set reaches half-brightness.


I personally think - Plasma Panasonic is one of the best yet your selection is Full HD with 5Million contrast will give you a solid life color. Go for it and follow your feelings - Do not mix with or compare every seconds between LED vs Plasma = You choice is right. My office had a Sharp Aquos 42 inch and just 2 months ago kaput due to power board (just 3 years) and another fren had Samsung bought from Harvey and kaput cannot ON also due to power board issue but replaced with warranty but later sold - But some are still in use, depends if your / or my timing is bad things will happen unexpectedly!

Your 3 points above can be improved within your family members - Practically they should be advice more ever you are purchasing some thing really expensive - How much and which shop have you surveyed?

All the best...let me know which one have u bought:)
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QUOTE(willy7774 @ Feb 5 2011, 07:00 PM)

2. The reason I give plasma the edge is in the quality of non-HD programming. Regular standard Dish (Astro analog) signal will look great on Panasonic, while it looks horrible on LCD Full HD -> Old Astro cannot work well with Full HD but will look better with HD ready UNLESS you use Full HD with Astro Beyond.

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I was told mid-range Samsung and LG's Plasma are better than the mid-range Panasonic Plasma for normal Astro. Much better.
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Also as below:
The lcd tvs have higher brightness and no chance of any screen burn. They are also available in thinner designs and they are lighter. When comparing picture quality the plasma tv have more life like colours, higher contrast and blacks that are blacker than lcd tvs.
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QUOTE(willy7774 @ Feb 5 2011, 07:41 PM)
Also as below:
The lcd tvs have higher brightness and no chance of any screen burn. They are also available in thinner designs and they are lighter. When comparing picture quality the plasma tv have more life like colours, higher contrast and blacks that are blacker than lcd tvs.
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In short, in normal or dim room, nothing beats Plasma for watching MOVIES in term of picture quality and price. Not even the far more expensive LED. Many people do not realize that.





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post Feb 6 2011, 01:42 PM

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Optiplex - You Are The Man and hope others get it too. I am having Philips LED and two nights ago was watching Red (Bruce Willis) with full screen 16:9 and Full Zoom - I start to seeing some kind of color shadow and the back screen contrast wasn't clear. Supposedly expected LED to be clear even movie like Batman all the back / dark spot should be clear. But recently I found out not all movies can be played in size of "full screen" and when I switch to "wide-screen" it looks way better - Any comments on this? Of course the dvd was a RM5 one...not sure of quality. So what if I am using a 40-46 inch led, will it be the same...unsure?


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