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Lets talk salary!, What is the industry rate, we must unite
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Chrisky
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 Mar 31 2005, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(V3i HoN6 @ Mar 31 2005, 05:43 PM)  Sweatttttttttttttttt How u guys also fresh grad but manage to get so high starting salary.. i attended interview for about 5 companys (in KL and PJ)... and three of them offer me the job of programmer some even said i'm pretty impressive during the interview. but guess what.. all of them paying me RM 1600 only woo.. some more probation period is 6 months. what wrong actually??? u think that is bad, huh? well u see nothing yet...  even a distinction 1st class degree holder also being offer 1400 only... (not me lah, haha) |
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Muffins
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Apr 1 2005, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(V3i HoN6 @ Mar 31 2005, 05:43 PM) Sweatttttttttttttttt How u guys also fresh grad but manage to get so high starting salary.. i attended interview for about 5 companys (in KL and PJ)... and three of them offer me the job of programmer some even said i'm pretty impressive during the interview. but guess what.. all of them paying me RM 1600 only woo.. some more probation period is 6 months. what wrong actually??? Hello, probation period of 6 mths is normal. My company also is 6 mths. (Although for me it was 3 mths only heheh since i was freelancing / internship with them for so long before that) After confirmation your gaji will naik. RM1.6 maybe will get 1.8-1.9 like that. Not good enough meh? Fresh grad in a job market SATURATED with IT degree holders you take what you can get for now, get work experience then you can jump ship later. Don't be greedy and think of the immediate benefits. "Wah I graduate I want to earn RM3k and buy big big car...etc" It took me almost 4 years to reach the 3k mark (but i'm not in the IT line so it may differ...). Want to earn a lot straight out of college? Join daddy's company. Or sell VCD.  |
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a_man24
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Apr 1 2005, 04:06 PM
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Getting Started
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don't complain too much. i'm also the same. probation 6 months, then my gaji naik to rm15++
my gaji so pathetic. so so want to buy a new geforce 6600gt also got no money. have to help pay household bills
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magnumao
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Apr 2 2005, 10:32 AM
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QUOTE(Psyker @ Mar 24 2005, 02:33 PM) Here goes mine:- Job Title : Investment Analyst Job scope : Prepare and monitor portfolio strategy, analyse companies for investment Company : The largest unit trust company in M'sia... hehehe Experience before joining : fresh grad Tenure: 3 years Education Lvl: B.Eng (Hons) from Imperial College salary: 25++ Anyway, I did an engineering degree... now, working as an investment analyst. Eventhough, I have few reservations about the job but it didn't deter me to learn new things... hence, within 3 years I have proven to be at least on-par if not better with my colleagues who's doing degree in Investment related field. How u join this line? Can share more details? |
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bukhrin
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Apr 2 2005, 10:56 PM
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My first post in lowyat
Job Title : Customer Support System Engineer (Note the 'Engineer')
Job Description : Repair & service photocopier/xeroxgraphic machines (technician lor)
Company : MNC from the land of 'Fuji' mountain (waa.. I gave away too much already lor)
Industry : service/support
Tenur : 2 years contract
Experience before joining : fresh grad
Duration with current company: entering 2 months
Salary : RM 1400 + 100 contract allowance
Saw this one in The Star's saturday pullout in January, later send resume, few weeks later got 1st interview, one week after that 2nd interview. Got the job on the spot. Offered "exec in nature" position as Customer Support System 'Engineer'. The HR girl asked to sign contract on the spot (take it or leave it). Too naive/desperate signed the contract.
Went for first day of job, uh-oh,
1st warning sign
- when people there asked you whether you're staying for a while (blah after training) or the long haul (few months after that) must be something wrong with the company. Company retention is ultra-bad even if compared Ah Kaw & sons company level (were talking about one of those big US-japanese joint venture MNC here). People leaving like someone just farted after eating durian
2nd warning sign
- met x-uni mate from johnson&johnson medical saying the company you're working for just had a strike a few weeks back. Oopss.
3rd warning sign
- Noticed that only you and the other newcomers had a degree in the department (the others are mostly dips and sijils)
4th warning sign
- Technician and engineer means the same thing here. So Customer Suppport System Engineer = technician
summing up
Rushed home like crazy, scanned the contract again and noticed this one clause - "since your position is executive in nature, cannot joined any union , cannot claim OT and all those stuffs". Position is exec in nature but job responsibilities are those of non-exec.
Conclusion
Company employing degree holder, must accept exec-position, but be technician, cannot do claim = company saves a lot of money. Career path is almost non-existent (have to wait 13 years to be team manager?!!). Can get allowance after training, but no employee retention program (so job satisfaction depends how desperate you are for money)
Now already giving away resume like crazy (even any job with less pay is okay).
Just want to know, if other companies are doing the same right now. It's not that I had a grudge agains technicians or anything (my workmates there are super cool). Just that I feel the company should just say Technician and didn't use the 'sign-the-contract-now-take-it-or-leave-it" tactic. Last time I check only those gores and menang scam used that.
So what do you think ?
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adri4n
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Apr 2 2005, 11:18 PM
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i heard from my fren said if lets say i took and pass the CCIE (Cisco Certified Internetwork Expert) the expected salary can be in da range of 5k - 7k... but its gonna be a tough test for a month of lecture...just wanna double check tis.. anyone here wit this cert ?
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pangping1510
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Apr 3 2005, 12:11 PM
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wanna ask-wat should a stpm science stream skol leaver work as? mayb for 5/6 months( mainly january to june ) only...i hope anyone here can suggest a job for this wit the highest pay possible...thx...  This post has been edited by pangping1510: Apr 3 2005, 12:12 PM |
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p4n6
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Apr 3 2005, 01:01 PM
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Just started working a week ago: Job Title : Product Engineer Job Desciption : Network planning and pre-sales/marketing Company : A M.N. company Industry : Telecommunication Tenur : Permanent Experience before joining : Non. Duration with current company: 1 week Salary : RM 2xxx+ Allowance Rm500 |
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DEFAULT
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Apr 5 2005, 10:24 AM
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p4n6
how come no probation? does Allowance covers OT, meal, mileage ?
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daedalusaf
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Apr 5 2005, 03:16 PM
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Job Title : Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Programming, Analysing, Testing
Job Responsibilities : programming and testing till my eyes bleed
Company : Non Listed
Industry : various, mostly government
Tenur : permanent
Employment Level : exec
Experience before joining : 0
Education: degree in IT
Duration with current company: almost 3 years
salary : RM 1900++, unlimited claims, limited medical coverage...claims are a moot point anyways, since they don't send me edit: *bleep*!!
edit: this part has been edited out for safety reasons...my safety reasons...
This post has been edited by daedalusaf: Apr 7 2005, 03:59 PM
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wos
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Apr 5 2005, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(daedalusaf @ Apr 5 2005, 03:16 PM) Job Title : Software Engineer Job Desciption : Programming, Analysing, Testing Job Responsibilities : programming and testing till my eyes bleed Company : Non Listed Industry : various, mostly government Tenur : permanent Employment Level : exec Experience before joining : 0 Education: degree in IT Duration with current company: almost 3 years salary : RM 1900++, unlimited claims, limited medical coverage...claims are a moot point anyways, since they don't send me ANYWHERE!! i think i'm being underpaid...2 of my colleagues who came in about 6 months after me got a better increment than i did and now they are earning more than me, mainly because they were given more important tasks (i.e tasks-that-can-cause-a-substantial-increase-in-salary-once-the-CEO-knows-about-it). one of them left anyways to earn more...i'm just about ready to jump ship at any moment... what i know what type of languages you using? |
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daedalusaf
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Apr 6 2005, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(wos @ Apr 5 2005, 04:47 PM) what i know what type of languages you using? currently the company is using vb6 and asp (using interdev 6.0)...there's no plan for upgrading to a .net platform... edit: whoops! this part has been edited as well...i myself am studying c#, asp.net and vb.net... why'd you ask? This post has been edited by daedalusaf: Apr 7 2005, 04:02 PM |
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wos
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Apr 6 2005, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(daedalusaf @ Apr 6 2005, 10:30 AM) currently the company is using vb6 and asp (using interdev 6.0)...there's no plan for upgrading to a .net platform...and since there's not much demand from clients, there's not much work for me to do...so i'm stuck in a rut... i myself am studying c#, asp.net and vb.net... why'd you ask? i asking what language u used in ur work  |
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daedalusaf
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Apr 6 2005, 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(wos @ Apr 6 2005, 10:47 AM) i asking what language u used in ur work languages as in spoken languages?  ...too much programming does this to me... i speak english and malay at work...why? |
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rukawa
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Apr 6 2005, 12:51 PM
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well, if you just recently work as on this month, I foresee the salary would be very low. Coz many local U grads are out already. Dipping as low as RM1200  This post has been edited by rukawa: Apr 6 2005, 12:51 PM |
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wos
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Apr 6 2005, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE(rukawa @ Apr 6 2005, 12:51 PM) well, if you just recently work as on this month, I foresee the salary would be very low. Coz many local U grads are out already. Dipping as low as RM1200 but i will say, that amount is abit low for fresh grad...it like make these fresh grad have to cheap sales his/her self  |
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rukawa
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Apr 6 2005, 01:13 PM
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well, that was why I waited until nearly the end of the year to get a job which was b4 this crisis hit me. Coz having to find a job now would kill your salary where you have to dip so low to secure a job. Those people are the one that spoilt the market. Not me. I got offered RM1200 b4, as I was saying , how can you ppl take this amount for a fresh grad. Darn the local U all finish at the same time.
This post has been edited by rukawa: Apr 6 2005, 02:40 PM
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johnnyxt
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Apr 6 2005, 01:30 PM
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RM1200?! You kidding me?! Sell Credit Card also better lah... Basic Rm1000, then commission easily exceed that already.....and you don't need degree for that...
This post has been edited by johnnyxt: Apr 6 2005, 01:32 PM
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wos
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Apr 6 2005, 02:40 PM
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i believe is all the company fault....trying pressing the fresh grad salary....and take chances to get cheap labour...
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