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post Oct 2 2006, 09:37 PM

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just received an offer 4.5k for it security analyst.

quite a good offer considering i'm just 2yr++ from uni.

throwing off my 10k worth of bonus for this job.. *sob*sob...
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post Oct 2 2006, 10:35 PM

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Job Title : Senior Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Enterprise Application Development
Job Responsibilities : Design, Implementation, testing, training
Company : Non Listed
Industry : Insurance
Tenur : 1 year contract
Employment Level : senior
Experience before joining : 2+
Duration with current company: 6 months
salary : RM 5.5k
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post Oct 2 2006, 11:23 PM

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Job Title : Senior Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Enterprise Application Development
Job Responsibilities : System analysis..not including managerial work
Company : Non Listed
Industry : ICT
Tenur : Permenant
Employment Level : senior
Experience before joining : 3
Duration with current company: 5 yrs
salary : RM 8k

Ha ha ... working for GLC ma...Do you think the BPR will audit GLC for not implying to labour law in awarding increments and salary? No promotion can get 1K increment wo. Hidup GLC! thumbup.gif

I like politic ah? So what???? Else fire me lo. Fire those bosses who support me lo. thumbup.gif

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post Oct 2 2006, 11:38 PM

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QUOTE(Gan @ Oct 2 2006, 11:23 PM)
Job Title : Senior Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Enterprise Application Development
Job Responsibilities : System analysis..not including managerial work
Company : Non Listed
Industry : ICT
Tenur : Permenant
Employment Level : senior
Experience before joining : 3
Duration with current company: 6 months
salary : RM 8k

Ha ha ... working for GLC ma...Do you think the BPR will audit GLC for not implying to labour law in awarding increments and salary? No promotion can get 1K increment wo. Hidup GLC! thumbup.gif
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Wah, very good pay oh, is that any vacancy at ur company? drool.gif
Gan
post Oct 2 2006, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(wos @ Oct 2 2006, 11:38 PM)
Wah, very good pay oh, is that any vacancy at ur company?  drool.gif
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My com is GLC wo. You know how play tai-chi and screw your own boss and he still you are angel to him.

If you can then join GLC la. No above skills need not apply. icon_idea.gif

Sorry correction. Been working in the com for 5 yrs.

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post Oct 3 2006, 09:06 PM

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after i read all the replies here...i found that most of us asking ...do i underpaid?
actually the salary always not satisfy one...if now u earn 2k, u will think if my salary is 3k then i can save a lot but actually u spend more...

when u in 3k level, u will think if my salary 4k, i can buy vios or city. so where is the ending?

to me, boss not so stupid, they pay u 4-5k, they expect u return to them more...

when my salary 2k and fresh grad that time....usually go back home after 6pm and spend my time with my gf and frens...

that time i think if i earn 2.5k, i think i can buy national car already...somemore no prospect at first company....so jump lor...manage to get 2.4k.....after brought the car, u save less than u earn 2k....

currently i earn around 3.5k, and yes, my financial is better but my life is damn miserable...workload a lot ...1 person do 2-3 person job...no choice, i don't want to jump so early...i don't want my bad record in my resume

i feel i rather work around 2-2.5k to spend more time doing my business preparation and also my family and frens...

what i can say, don't envy your friends that they got better pay ...try to think y not you compare with those get rm600 per month...

try to think we r lucky we get the job now...some no job also....no need envy, when your time is come, you will get the reward...

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post Oct 3 2006, 09:14 PM

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quite agree wit wat u said smile.gif

when they pay u more,they expect more in return

there is no free lunch in this world
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post Oct 3 2006, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(waikhei @ Oct 3 2006, 09:06 PM)
after i read all the replies here...i found that most of us asking ...do i underpaid?
actually the salary always not satisfy one...if now u earn 2k, u will think if my salary is 3k then i can save a lot but actually u spend more...

when u in 3k level, u will think if my salary 4k, i can buy vios or city. so where is the ending?

to me, boss not so stupid, they pay u 4-5k, they expect u return to them more...

when my salary 2k and fresh grad that time....usually go back home after 6pm and spend my time with my gf and frens...

that time i think if i earn 2.5k, i think i can buy national car already...somemore no prospect at first company....so jump lor...manage to get 2.4k.....after brought the car, u save less than u earn 2k....

currently i earn around 3.5k, and yes, my financial is better but my life is damn miserable...workload a lot ...1 person do 2-3 person job...no choice, i don't want to jump so early...i don't want my bad record in my resume

i feel i rather work around 2-2.5k to spend more time doing my business preparation and also my family and frens...

what i can say, don't envy your friends that they got better pay ...try to think y not you compare with those get rm600 per month...

try to think we r lucky we get the job now...some no job also....no need envy, when your time is come, you will get the reward...
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i totally disagree..what sort of company you join?
How I come no need to work so hard one...
Everyday can go home early....increment 500 - 1K every yr.
bonus guarantee dapat.. whistling.gif But i sure cannot compare la...I join GLC ma..hehe...
There i susch thing as free lunch in this world...Trust me....The WORLD IS UNFAIR....
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post Oct 4 2006, 12:25 PM

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How much is the pay for a MCSE2000, CCNA, CCNP and CCIE(switch & routing) certification holder with 6 yr experience without degree but with diploma.


I am currently 1.1K in Sarawak. I'm thinking to get a job in singapore or kl...

Please help...
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post Oct 4 2006, 12:41 PM

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I want to share something here regarding the email i received last week. It's regarding the salary. rclxms.gif


Email subject : Fwd: Salary RM3,000 per month can survive?





Very interesting... read it on.
Somebody should get this to 'people on top'...



Let's do some simple calculations here.

In Malaysia, the average family income is RM3,000 /month (where father works, mother doesn't). I understand there are many families whose monthly income does not reach RM3,000, but, to make things simple, let's take RM3,000 as the figure. Ok lah, right?



Okay, let's start rolling with a family which has Papa, Mama, 1 daughter and 1 son.

Ngam-ngam...



Calculation starts...



Electricity and water bill: RM100

(No air-con, No home theatre, No water heater ... ok?)



Phone bill (Telekom): RM100



Meals for a happy family: RM775

(3 meals on RM25/day, RM25 for 4 persons...?)



Papa makan / teh-tarik during working hrs: RM155

(RM5/day, RM5 ... can eat what?)



Car repayment: RM400

(A proton saga aeroback, 7 yrs repayment)



Petrol (living in city, traffic-jam): RM300

(go to work, bring son to school, only can afford one car running)



Insurance: RM650

(kids, wife and myself)



House repayment: RM750

(low cost housing repayment for 30 yrs, retired still have to work to pay!)



Tuition: RM80

(got that cheap meh? i don't think so)



Older children pocket money @ school: RM20

(RM1/day, eat bread?)



School fees: RM30

(enough ah?)



School books and etc: RM100

(always got extra to pay in school)



Younger children milk powder: RM50

(cannot have the DHA, BHA, PHA one, expensive)



Miscellaneous: RM100

(shampoo, rice, sauce, toilet paper)



Oh wait!!! I have to stop here, so... No Astro, no movie @ cinema, no DVD, no CD, no online, cannot KFC, cannot McDonald, cannot go Park walk during weekend (petrol expensive), no chit chat on phone with grandparents, and etc...



Let's use a calculator to total up... WALAO EH! Shit! RM3,610 already...

EPF belum potong, income tax lagi........oledi RM3,610...



How to survive lah tuan-tuan dan puan-puan sekalian???



Our Deputy Prime Minister asked us to change lifestyle?

How to change? Don't eat? Don't work? Don't send children to school and study?



Besides that, I believe in Malaysia population, there are millions of rakyat Malaysia which still don't earn RM3,000/month!!!



What is this? Inilah Malaysia Boleh... Sorry... it should be Malaysians Boleh , because we're still alive and kicking!!
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post Oct 4 2006, 11:53 PM

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QUOTE(ikuwara @ Oct 4 2006, 12:41 PM)
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nice detailed expenditure....maybe you shuold send this to local media. they might write an article about it.
from the current inflation and cost of living....it would take at least >5K salary to even have a "good" family life....apart from love, bond and the works.

does anyone know when is malaysia implementing the wage standard limit?
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post Oct 5 2006, 02:08 AM

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Yeah...I love ur figuration...Hope PM can see this!!!Hey Pak Lah...our country income for residents really lowlah...macam mana ni?
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post Oct 5 2006, 02:39 AM

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Somemore nowaday we kept reading newspaper saying that company complaint that giving fresh grad >RM 1200 is actually meant a lot... haihz...

Said we got attitute problem and not willing to learn.. All BS excuses seriously. I am very sure majority of us got the right attitute and pretty much eager to learn. but at least give an slightly better wages to compesate what we deserve.

We got parents on top of us and we need to pay for our expenditure like food and transport also..
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post Oct 5 2006, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(Gan @ Oct 2 2006, 11:23 PM)
Job Title : Senior Software Engineer
Job Desciption : Enterprise Application Development
Job Responsibilities : System analysis..not including managerial work
Company : Non Listed
Industry : ICT
Tenur : Permenant
Employment Level : senior
Experience before joining : 3
Duration with current company: 5 yrs
salary : RM 8k

Ha ha ... working for GLC ma...Do you think the BPR will audit GLC for not implying to labour law in awarding increments and salary? No promotion can get 1K increment wo. Hidup GLC! thumbup.gif

I like politic ah? So what???? Else fire me lo. Fire those bosses who support me lo. thumbup.gif
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Sorry, may i know what is GLC?
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post Oct 5 2006, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(Jenn V @ Oct 5 2006, 11:11 AM)
Sorry, may i know what is GLC?
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GLC = Grassroot Leadership Company...haha Malaysian style. rclxm9.gif
Nah actually is Government Link Company.

This post has been edited by Gan: Oct 5 2006, 12:15 PM
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post Oct 5 2006, 12:05 PM

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good describe but lifes still goes on, i dun see any choice given;
there will be chances on reaching RM3,610 if both parents is earning imcome;
by adding up both income, a happy family will appear;
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QUOTE(Gan @ Oct 5 2006, 12:00 PM)
GLC = Grassroot Leadership Company...haha Malaysian style. rclxm9.gif
Nah actually is Government Link Company.
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GOV link company can give so much increment? wow..
which one is the company?
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post Oct 5 2006, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(3den @ Oct 5 2006, 12:17 PM)
GOV link company can give so much increment? wow..
which one is the company?
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Of course I cannot tell la as much as I wanted to.
So many GLC in Malaysia. A GLC does not need be a Bumi com as long as it is dealing with government project. That is why is it called GLC.
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with 4 yrs ++ of working experience, engineering level sommore, the only thing i can get is 2.8k salary with O allowance.......sad.gif
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post Oct 5 2006, 06:29 PM

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Aikss... i also working 4+ near 5 years as IT field also havent rich 3K :-s sigh !

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