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Photography The Sony Alpha Thread V32!, The Orange Legion

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post Oct 11 2009, 02:09 AM

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AlphaBeta: Eh, Pentax makes very feature-ful bodies with very desirable compact pancake lenses! Their K7 is an APS-C wonder. Go try one, seriously.
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:11 AM

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QUOTE(quintesson @ Oct 11 2009, 02:08 AM)
i've read photographyblog review about the a330, it is not as good as a300 in term of handling & feel. as for a550 is still very new & the price is not gonna be lot cheaper than the obsolete a300.  hmm.gif
my main consideration is i'm a beginner & a300 already given what i need anti shake, anti dust & live view + most of all a more affordable price for me to learn b4 climbing up the ladder.  biggrin.gif
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try to find a second hand one???i bet when 500/550 is here..u gonna see alot ppl selling their 300...

too bad the price is exp in singapore..actually there r alot ppl selling a300~a700 due to upgrades...
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:12 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 11 2009, 02:09 AM)
AlphaBeta: Eh, Pentax makes very feature-ful bodies with very desirable compact pancake lenses! Their K7 is an APS-C wonder. Go try one, seriously.
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but don u think their grip is too 'short' in front?(not small) i tried k100d or k1000...forgot..been using tht in my optional photography course.
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:15 AM

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The K7 has a redesigned grip. That said, if you ever look through the menus you'll be convinced!
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Oct 11 2009, 02:06 AM)
But i really would like to shoot under heavy rains...i missed out few opportunities to shoot some events due to heavy rain! Im sure a700 onwards are able to shoot under rain..but im not going to risk it..coz they are no strong prove or ppl tried to shoot under heavy rain and claimed tht it has no problem.
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under heavy rain, how u goin to do it? even with ur body is water-proof, i wonder how r u goin to handle the front lens covered with water... hmm.gif

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post Oct 11 2009, 02:17 AM

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QUOTE(achew @ Oct 11 2009, 03:11 AM)
try to find a second hand one???i bet when 500/550 is here..u gonna see alot ppl selling their 300...

too bad the price is exp in singapore..actually there r alot ppl selling a300~a700 due to upgrades...
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Yes! that's my intention now. currently 1 seller is selling the a300 for 1500 std box pkg with hoya cpl filter, no bag.
is it a good buy?

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post Oct 11 2009, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 11 2009, 02:15 AM)
The K7 has a redesigned grip. That said, if you ever look through the menus you'll be convinced!
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oh...yea juz did some google..found this..

K100d...short grip..haha..hate it
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and k7..better grip.longer..
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(quintesson @ Oct 11 2009, 02:08 AM)
i've read photographyblog review about the a330, it is not as good as a300 in term of handling & feel. as for a550 is still very new & the price is not gonna be lot cheaper than the obsolete a300.  hmm.gif
my main consideration is i'm a beginner & a300 already given what i need anti shake, anti dust & live view + most of all a more affordable price for me to learn b4 climbing up the ladder.  biggrin.gif

hopefully i will join this Orange legion very soon & by that time i'll definitely be more active in this thread for more guidance from all sifus here.  notworthy.gif
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mind you, a lot of concept of photography is forgotten, due to they love comfort.

yes, A330 not as comfortable(handling or feel) IF u are picky, i find it just nice.

but to let u be clear.
1. ISO on A330 is better then A300. output is important
2. A330 new shutter design helps SSS to preform better, quieter, software, and longer lifespan.
3. A330 bigger OVF help u compose better. A300 is smallest in DSLR history. composition is important
4. A330 better informative LCD info help learning easier, faster. A300 doesnt hav.
5. A330 better DRO then A300 output is important

bad thing bout A330?
1. grip, seriously, if u say u are new to camera, and not very picky, i dont see the grip is any problem, as they Dont Make Your Photo Nicer.
2. Manual/custom WB being remove. i believe, 70% of lyn A300 user still dont use it. so... will you?
3. mmm, i can go all day long, but non of these i going to mention will affect the result or output quality of the photo.


Added on October 11, 2009, 2:22 am
QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Oct 11 2009, 02:06 AM)
@albnok..i like the bokeh produced by the STF...thx for the explaination.
yea up to each person... U may use photoshop to lower down the noise or get a better FF with a price of course. woah..i have not even been to anywhere outside malaysia except australia. Shooting under snow isnt my problem to worry too. But i really would like to shoot under heavy rains...i missed out few opportunities to shoot some events due to heavy rain! Im sure a700 onwards are able to shoot under rain..but im not going to risk it..coz they are no strong prove or ppl tried to shoot under heavy rain and claimed tht it has no problem.

wireless for the win! all DSLR grips are good for me except 1000d,d40,d60 and Pentax...gosh i hate pentax the most..
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jump ship again lor, now olympus! kekekeke All Weather Proof!~

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post Oct 11 2009, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(countdracula @ Oct 11 2009, 02:16 AM)
under heavy rain, how u goin to do it? even with ur body is water-proof, i wonder how r u goin to handle the front lens covered with water...  hmm.gif
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tht isnt a major problem..to shoot under rain..ur lens has to be weather proof such as 2470 and 70200...u will notice tht they have big and long hood(not intentionally to block rain). Heavy rain isnt a problem..unless windy + heavy rain!..then u have to be careful.
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QUOTE(quintesson @ Oct 11 2009, 02:17 AM)
Yes! that's my intention now. currently 1 seller is selling the a300 for 1500 std box pkg with hoya cpl filter, no bag.
is it a good buy?
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TWIN KIT? go for it!

single kit? hmmm i tot i read somwhere someone in alpha letting go even cheaper?


Added on October 11, 2009, 2:27 ami couldnt help it to share how rich is sony and advance they are
(rich as they buy oled tech from kodak, and advance as, look at the article)

http://www.slashgear.com/sony-flexible-ole...outing-0959805/

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post Oct 11 2009, 02:27 AM

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QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 11 2009, 02:23 AM)
TWIN KIT? go for it!

single kit? hmmm i tot i read somwhere someone in alpha letting go even cheaper?


Added on October 11, 2009, 2:27 ami couldnt help it to share how rich is sony and advance they are
(rich as they buy oled tech from kodak, and advance as, look at the article)

http://www.slashgear.com/sony-flexible-ole...outing-0959805/
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i doubt its twin kit..lol..
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:29 AM

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then i sell u mine, A300+1870kitlens+uv filter+8gb +standard everthing in the box(except55200), with bag, RM1450? inculding shipping. 7 month warranty left. no need reciept to go for warranty..., sony centre knows my unit, i am thier biggest complain guy. biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(ieR @ Oct 11 2009, 02:29 AM)
then i sell u mine, A300+1870kitlens+uv filter, with bag, RM1450? inculding shipping.
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i'll sell my a300 + 1870 + uv filter + bag for 1449!


lol..just joking =p
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:31 AM

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and then u get wht? lol..A550? every1 is crazy bout this a550..but i say a700 better..

alright...going to sleep..
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:34 AM

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i going D90 like u... hahahahaha
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post Oct 11 2009, 02:37 AM

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QUOTE(noprob @ Oct 11 2009, 12:07 AM)
anyone here going to Melaka Zoo tomorrow ?
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i hv a bad time shooting zoo animals with range below 70mm (kit lens)... therefore i skip the Zoo outing....n join the next week Flash workshop smile.gif I very want to venture into Zoom range lens oredi .... wats the nice lens to start with? brows.gif

QUOTE(iena_jr @ Oct 11 2009, 12:08 AM)
guys.... i've planned to buy alpha...but suddenly when i join a photographer's forum, the forumers said sony is hgyt%DX$# nikon n canon is the best n bla bla bla... so i need help n some motivation here..

=.=


Added on October 11, 2009, 12:10 am

my roomate and i will go to hotel istana on 7th november...huhuhu
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Most important is do ur homework.. check out wat suit you the best... money/usage/ mayb even kakis...(if many of ur friends using certain brand)... any many other factors.

When I first wan to get a dslr... I oredi set my eye on Canon 400D.. 1st. bcause of the "BRAND" i oredi know it even b4 i done any research. 2nd. bcause im using Canon pns camera before this. Then when i finally go through some research... I come out with few options... 400D / A100/ pentax K100... from there i finally decided A100 for this few reason:

1. Cheaper compare 400D (during that time)
2. 18-70mm (better range n better kit lens)
3. SSS (long term saving in IS/VR lens... I know i wont be Professional journalist or whoever that rely cari makan with camera)
4. Better grip for my hand...n better body buildquality..
5. Minolta technology n Sony (believeing in its quality control) , can get some old , but excellent minolta lens..(end up i din buy any minolta lens tongue.gif)
6. No friends playing dslr that time... im the first one.. so i din get any influence from others.. tongue.gif 100% own decision.. n still im glad with my decision... hehe

On other hand. I know the Noise level for the A100 unable to beat the 400D... but the above reasons is enough for me to decide wat i want.
So end of the day.. get what suit u best.. n Not following wat ppl generally SAY!

QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 11 2009, 01:53 AM)
AlphaBeta: This, most simply, shows how the STF works optically:
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Note that unlike the Defocus Control or Soft Focus lenses, it does not add a layer of haze or soften the out-of-focus area. Instead, every single out-of-focus point is graduated from the center. Thus there is never an out-of-focus thick stripe with bright outlines (bad bokeh!)

Also, the front element is oversized so that all OOF points are perfect circles (the 135mm F1.8 in the comparison, gives cat's-eye bokeh the further away from the center.)
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Wow.... din know a bokeh can be so much different.... it makes me take note of "watever that is OOF" now in my photo... sweat.gif


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d300 yummier.. 51 af point...bigger view finder...8fps!(with batt grip)..weather sealed(can take ur gf showering without worrying water splashing on it) biggrin.gif...better grip...magnesium body.. Noise and IQ wise..D90 and D300 are equivalent.

again..like achew said..if u dont need extra features..don get it..save the money on something else.. If u have too much money and afraid to loose the good specs...go for the best then.

good nite..
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initially...

QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Oct 11 2009, 02:06 AM)
But i really would like to shoot under heavy rains...i missed out few opportunities to shoot some events due to heavy rain! Im sure a700 onwards are able to shoot under rain..but im not going to risk it..coz they are no strong prove or ppl tried to shoot under heavy rain and claimed tht it has no problem.
later on...

QUOTE(AlphaBeta @ Oct 11 2009, 02:23 AM)
tht isnt a major problem..to shoot under rain..ur lens has to be weather proof such as 2470 and 70200...u will notice tht they have big and long hood(not intentionally to block rain). Heavy rain isnt a problem..unless windy + heavy rain!..then u have to be careful.
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think about olympus. i bet ur love will change as time goes by... tongue.gif

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QUOTE(albnok @ Oct 11 2009, 01:21 AM)
Briefly, it is a superb camera, and a very solid replacement for the A350. Control-wise it is very much a Live-View-centric camera. It feels very different. I practically did not use the optical viewfinder at all due to the superb LCD gainup in sunlight.
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damn! my hands are itchy oredi.. drool.gif

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