QUOTE(mokhzaini @ Sep 29 2009, 01:10 PM)
even i can tell u now, what valencia's MO on the right flank. got the ball, he'll try to get to ball further to his right leg. he'll speed up and will try to cross on that.
no side steps, no taking on defenders, turning left / right to out-turn the defender. nothing. i thought he played at wigan a season or two hasnt he? but yeap, i'll reserve my judgement till january 2010.further than that, we must find solution on that right flank. cant give him full season tho we are abit tight on flanks. middle yes got plenty of bodies.
i remember evra got tortured in his first game vs man city but after that i saw the promise he brought in every game he played. vida was feature in phases and transition done well. but nani? hes been here for years now.
ps- i read one book about questioning fan's loyalty to teams, particularly fans who follow the team from afar, i.e us. the book said something about the craap things we said to players if they do mistakes. and the fact is that the team never been owned by the fans, but the fans felt they owned the club. its a good read tho, and i am particularly offended by what i read. one minute we loath on ronaldo, lost the ball while doing sidesteppings, and we were cursing him off limit. the next minute he got back the ball, the same side steps then bang! goal. we forgot the curse we said and start worshipping him. thats how quick our judgement are. flashing quick. good read tho. i found it at borders penang.
If he's effective, who cares how predictable he is. Right now he's still finding his feet and still haven't figure it out properly how to play things our way. I know he played with Wigan, but they're not ManUtd. We play things differently, not to mention most teams we play would defend most of the time with almost no space at all to exploit. He will improve by playing more games with us. I'm not sure why there's this mentality of expecting stuff to magically work in one season. Ronaldo took effectively 2-3 seasons to get to where he was. Fletcher took 5-6 seasons since he broke through to become a regular for us. We can wait two seasons at least for a new player to make his mark for us.
Evra showed promise.. yeah, bit like Valencia and Nani is showing/has shown. Evra came here when he was 25. He was the finished article. The only thing he needed to improve was his familiarity with the team, and tweak his game a bit to suit the hust and bustle of EPL, not to mention the way we play. Nani came here when he was 21 and he was one with the highest number of assists for our team in his first season. He wouldn't be able to achieve that if he was useless. When he was 22 he was going through that 2nd season syndrome and he struggled to find form when we preferred Park on the wings most time. Now 23.. only his third season here, he started the season well, but last 2-3 games he starts to play that clueless game again. But let's give him till the end of the season to fix things. But as Fletcher showed, it's when they're 24-26 they became consistent and playing with confidence and able to be a regular for a top team. Only those special players would be able to break through and stay there in the team since they're young. We can't expect every player to be special.
It's normal being a football fan. We watch game and we look Nani misplace another pass, Ben Foster make yet another mistake, we would curse them straight away at that time. Yet when they do something brilliant, get a goal, make a fantastic pass that lead to a goal, make a fantastic save, we would cheer. But looking at Fletcher's progress, and even I learned that just recently is that we should give young players(under 24/25) time to prove their worth in the first team. If it's like Miller/Djemba2 who was disappointing most of the time, then yes we should maybe move them on, but Nani has showed in a single season that he can provide goal scoring chances for us.. he has promise, just right now struggling with his consistency. I'm not saying we should criticize if they have a bad game, we do that for most players. That's normal. But don't write off their chances in the team so soon.
Like I maintained throughout, we are a bit spoilt having child prodigy in Rooney and Ronaldo at the club in their teenage years. Having seen them in the first team since forever, we expect every single player to have the same impact almost in the first team and be consistent as they were all the time. But as we know with young players, they're bloody inconsistent. Great one game, fecking terrible the next. Fletcher was like that.. and Nani is going through similar phase. Nani really need to improve though. Whatever he does, at least create a couple of chances.. right now he's going through some spiral blind tunnels with nothing to show for.. he should just whipped them crosses in a few times at least. He doesn't do that although he's well capable. He prefers to play with one defender over and over till he pass the ball back to someone if he doesn't lose it.
Then there's the no old man brigade. They would want those players that's in their thirties to be shipped off straight away and get new players as replacement. Hopefully the likes of VDS, Giggs, Scholes, Gary and soon Rio will show that when they're old, doesn't mean they would turn bad and can't run anymore overnight.
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Everyone was missing in that Barca game though. Ando was useless, Giggs can't do anything, and Carrick obviously can't hold that midfield on his own. IMO, in a 433 game, he's important for us. Stick him next to Fletcher and someone else, you would see our midfield work. Before his form dipped and Fletcher grew into the player he is today last year, I thought he was the important piece in the middle. Even though he's not as good as Scholes was/is, but his role in the team is of far more importance. Right now on a bad run of form.. but he will get that form back. November-December he should be back to his normal self.. unless Fletcher, Scholes and Ando keep him out of the team beyond that, but he should still get games.
This post has been edited by Wan: Sep 29 2009, 02:51 PM 
Sep 29 2009, 12:09 PM
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and that will probably piss SAF [who want him to stay up top] off! 
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