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royalz
post Apr 15 2022, 02:17 PM

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anyone bought Arden Teal shoe from Zalora before? is the price okay? about 400-500 per pair...
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post Apr 15 2022, 10:17 PM

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Just bought a pair of Barker Leybourne Semi Brogue in conker brown colour from P. Lal at PJ. Tested about 7-8 pairs of GYW shoes ranging from Loake, Cheaney & Barker. Finally settled down with this Barker due to it cost RM1.2k and come with Daniete sole which is suitable for my working environment (cold & wet). The staff & boss is very helpful and patient.

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post Apr 17 2022, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(lvoonjian8888 @ Apr 15 2022, 10:17 PM)
Just bought a pair of Barker Leybourne Semi Brogue in conker brown colour. Tested about 7-8 pairs of GYW shoes ranging from Loake, Cheaney & Barker. Finally settled down with this Barker due to it cost RM1.2k and come with Daniete sole which is suitable for my working environment (cold & wet). The staff & boss is very helpful  and patient.
from P. lal?
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post Apr 17 2022, 01:29 PM

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post Apr 17 2022, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(stargamer @ Apr 17 2022, 01:29 PM)
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lvoonjian8888
post Apr 17 2022, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Apr 17 2022, 01:27 PM)
from P. lal?
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Yes. 😊 My first pair of GYW shoe.
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post Apr 17 2022, 06:02 PM

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QUOTE(lvoonjian8888 @ Apr 17 2022, 05:58 PM)
Yes. 😊 My first pair of GYW shoe.
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How much is a Loake 1880 there now? I've not been there in ages.

I don't need any more shoes in my rotation but now and again I feel an itch....
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post Apr 17 2022, 08:05 PM

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P. Lal Loake is cheaper than UK
that's why Loake also dont like let them sell
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post Apr 18 2022, 12:38 AM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 17 2022, 06:02 PM)
How much is a Loake 1880 there now? I've not been there in ages.

I don't need any more shoes in my rotation but now and again I feel an itch....
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Their Loake 1880 is around 1500-1600. They told me their price had increased this year.

BTW, for my shoe. Do I need a Saphir Renovateur?

Or I just use Saphir Medaille Creme - Neutral for the whole shoe and polish with Saphir Medaille Wax Light Brown on the toe & heel area for mirror shine effect.
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post Apr 18 2022, 12:40 AM

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QUOTE(yehlai @ Apr 17 2022, 08:05 PM)
P. Lal Loake is cheaper than UK
that's why Loake also dont like let them sell
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Seem like they increased their price which made the price almost equivalent to Loake official UK website.
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post Apr 18 2022, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(lvoonjian8888 @ Apr 18 2022, 12:38 AM)
Their Loake 1880 is around 1500-1600. They told me their price had increased this year.

BTW, for my shoe. Do I need a Saphir Renovateur?

Or I just use Saphir Medaille Creme - Neutral for the whole shoe and polish with Saphir Medaille Wax Light Brown on the toe & heel area for mirror shine effect.
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I don't think you need Renovateur for now. Maybe never. My time handling Barker shoes at PLal gave me the impression that the leather is quite heavily finished and therefore mostly impermeable, the leather might not be able to accept the Renovateur/Creme except wherever the finish has been scratched/worn off.

In case I am wrong and the leather is actually not as impermeable as I thought, I'd personally go for a mid brown creme.
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post Apr 18 2022, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 18 2022, 10:46 AM)
I don't think you need Renovateur for now. Maybe never. My time handling Barker shoes at PLal gave me the impression that the leather is quite heavily finished and therefore mostly impermeable, the leather might not be able to accept the Renovateur/Creme except wherever the finish has been scratched/worn off.

In case I am wrong and the leather is actually not as impermeable as I thought, I'd personally go for a mid brown creme.
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Thanks for the advice. I will get the Saphir creme & wax for mirror shine effect then.

I had watched the below video, he used dark brown wax for mirror shine. The effect is nice.


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post Apr 18 2022, 03:33 PM

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QUOTE(lvoonjian8888 @ Apr 18 2022, 12:38 AM)
Their Loake 1880 is around 1500-1600. They told me their price had increased this year.

BTW, for my shoe. Do I need a Saphir Renovateur?

Or I just use Saphir Medaille Creme - Neutral for the whole shoe and polish with Saphir Medaille Wax Light Brown on the toe & heel area for mirror shine effect.
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From your photos, the leather looks like they will accept conditioner and cream as you can see the pores/grain of the leather.
It doesn't look like corrected grain leather, which has that glossy finish that will prevent it from accepting conditioners or cream.
So, good pick bro...my first GYW shoes was Barker too but it was a corrected grain.
If it was corrected grain, conditioners and creams would be useless and won't be able to mirror shine as well (I've tried lol).

The best practice for leather shoe care is to clean, condition, cream and wax every 10 wears (whole day/8-12 hours count as 1 wear).
Never wear the same shoe 2 days in a row, put natural wood shoe trees in them when not wearing and they may last you a lifetime.
YMMV.
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post Apr 18 2022, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(thelibran.kl @ Apr 18 2022, 03:33 PM)
From your photos, the leather looks like they will accept conditioner and cream as you can see the pores/grain of the leather.
It doesn't look like corrected grain leather, which has that glossy finish that will prevent it from accepting conditioners or cream.
So, good pick bro...my first GYW shoes was Barker too but it was a corrected grain.
If it was corrected grain, conditioners and creams would be useless and won't be able to mirror shine as well (I've tried lol).

The best practice for leather shoe care is to clean, condition, cream and wax every 10 wears (whole day/8-12 hours count as 1 wear).
Never wear the same shoe 2 days in a row, put natural wood shoe trees in them when not wearing and they may last you a lifetime.
YMMV.
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Luckily I found someone that owned the same pair as mine and done mirror shine polish which posted at YouTube. In the below video, that guy only use Saphir Renovateur and Saphir Medaille Light Brown wax. I managed to grab the Saphir Renovateur for RM44 & Saphir Medaille wax for RM48 from Shopee (after used my Shopee coins & Shopee 4.18 discount). Do you recommend I buy the Saphir Medaille Creme 1925 as well?



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QUOTE(lvoonjian8888 @ Apr 18 2022, 06:38 PM)
Luckily I found someone that owned the same pair as mine and done mirror shine polish which posted at YouTube. In the below video, that guy only use Saphir Renovateur and Saphir Medaille Light Brown wax. I managed to grab the Saphir Renovateur for RM44 & Saphir Medaille wax for RM48 from Shopee (after used my Shopee coins & Shopee 4.18 discount). Do you recommend I buy the Saphir Medaille Creme 1925 as well?
Wow, you bought them at a great price! Have fun on your journey to achieving a mirror shine!
It may look simple on video but it really takes experience.

Cream is to nourish the leather and rejuvenate colour as it contains colour pigments (unless you buy neutral, which won't have any).
As you wear the shoes, especially lighter coloured shoes, its colour may change and get scuffed.
You can then use cream to bring them back to life like below.
You can't go wrong with Saphir, there are also other great brands like Pure Polish, Boot Black, etc, you need to try and find which one you prefer.

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post Apr 19 2022, 12:18 AM

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QUOTE(thelibran.kl @ Apr 18 2022, 03:33 PM)

If it was corrected grain, conditioners and creams would be useless and won't be able to mirror shine as well (I've tried lol).

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Wow learned new thing.. although I only get full grain
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post Apr 19 2022, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(thelibran.kl @ Apr 18 2022, 09:19 PM)
Wow, you bought them at a great price! Have fun on your journey to achieving a mirror shine!
It may look simple on video but it really takes experience.

Cream is to nourish the leather and rejuvenate colour as it contains colour pigments (unless you buy neutral, which won't have any).
As you wear the shoes, especially lighter coloured shoes, its colour may change and get scuffed.
You can then use cream to bring them back to life like below.
You can't go wrong with Saphir, there are also other great brands like Pure Polish, Boot Black, etc, you need to try and find which one you prefer.

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I guess I am considered lucky as I don't have any knowledge on corrected grain or full grain leather. Will definitely take note on this for my second since I need it for my rotation.

Thanks for the advice and will post photos once I got my second pair. brows.gif
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post Apr 24 2022, 10:52 PM

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It tooks about 4 hours for me to complete the whole process. Used Saphir Renovateur first then follow with Saphir Light Brown 1925 Creme => Saphir Light brown wax (1 layer on the whole shoe) => Mirror Shine with the same wax at Toe & Heel area. Mirror shine itself took me 1 hour per shoe. 😅😅 Quite satisfied with the result since it was my first time. 😊

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post Apr 25 2022, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(lvoonjian8888 @ Apr 24 2022, 10:52 PM)
It tooks about 4 hours for me to complete the whole process. Used Saphir Renovateur first then follow with Saphir Light Brown 1925 Creme => Saphir Light brown wax (1 layer on the whole shoe) => Mirror Shine with the same wax at Toe & Heel area. Mirror shine itself took me 1 hour per shoe. 😅😅 Quite satisfied with the result since it was my first time. 😊

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Well done for first try!! A toe cap with a medallion is harder to shine.
How many layers of wax you put before mirror shining?
You can try to build up the mirror shine by letting it rest 1-2 days and shine again.
Example of one of my best shines below.

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post Apr 25 2022, 05:48 PM

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QUOTE(thelibran.kl @ Apr 25 2022, 03:16 PM)
Well done for first try!! A toe cap with a medallion is harder to shine.
How many layers of wax you put before mirror shining?
You can try to build up the mirror shine by letting it rest 1-2 days and shine again.
Example of one of my best shines below.

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I think it was around 10 layers, didn't exactly count the number. The wax keep going into the medallions, I need to brush off the wax gently.
Your mirror shine is on another level rclxms.gif . Will try to build up additional layers on tomorrow.

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