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rexus
post Jan 17 2022, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jan 17 2022, 10:35 AM)
I too bought renovateur early on. I see now that it's not all that necessary. Creme is more beneficial. It nourishes and recolours.

Renovateur would be useful if the leather is seriously dry, something I've never let happen to my shoes.

Unless you have many different colours of shoes and are on a budget, then the colour neutral renovateur makes sense as a first buy.
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I see, then I suppose the list should be revised to:

1. Shoe tree
2. Horse hair brush
3. Cream polish

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post Jan 18 2022, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(rexus @ Jan 17 2022, 10:59 AM)
I see, then I suppose the list should be revised to:

1. Shoe tree
2. Horse hair brush
3. Cream polish

Thanks!
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Good to know that you're looking to take care of your shoes more, it makes a lot of difference to its longevity.

If you're going the cream route, then you'll need a cleaner. As creams build up in the leather, you'll need a cleaner to remove old cream, otherwise new application of cream may not reach the leather to nourish them.

Then it comes to the point why a conditioner is needed. Depending on the cleaner you use, cleaners usually dry out the leather and hence, needing a conditioner that moisturises the leather better than cream.
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post Jan 18 2022, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(thelibran.kl @ Jan 18 2022, 09:43 AM)
Good to know that you're looking to take care of your shoes more, it makes a lot of difference to its longevity.

If you're going the cream route, then you'll need a cleaner. As creams build up in the leather, you'll need a cleaner to remove old cream, otherwise new application of cream may not reach the leather to nourish them.

Then it comes to the point why a conditioner is needed. Depending on the cleaner you use, cleaners usually dry out the leather and hence, needing a conditioner that moisturises the leather better than cream.
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Ah I see.

What's your suggestion as to:

How often should I reapply the cream?

How often should I use a cleaner?


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post Jan 18 2022, 01:35 PM

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Hi all!

I have a good year welted shoe and the leather of my sole is wearing off.. I was thinking of adding a metal tip and was wondering where in Klang Valley I could get it done?

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Thank you all for your help

This post has been edited by Calvin Seak: Jan 18 2022, 09:58 PM
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post Jan 18 2022, 10:16 PM

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QUOTE(rexus @ Jan 18 2022, 09:55 AM)
Ah I see.

What's your suggestion as to:

How often should I reapply the cream?

How often should I use a cleaner?
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Shoe care is a routine. If you wear them often, a few times a week, you may want to do the routine once a month. If once a week or lesser, you can stretch it to once every 3 months.

For my shoes, I'll clean, conditioner, cream and wax to a high shine. If got time, I'll mirror shine.
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post Jan 18 2022, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(thelibran.kl @ Jan 18 2022, 10:16 PM)
Shoe care is a routine. If you wear them often, a few times a week, you may want to do the routine once a month. If once a week or lesser, you can stretch it to once every 3 months.

For my shoes, I'll clean, conditioner, cream and wax to a high shine. If got time, I'll mirror shine.
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Cheers. Any suggestion of a cleaner?
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post Jan 19 2022, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(rexus @ Jan 18 2022, 10:42 PM)
Cheers. Any suggestion of a cleaner?
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I used Saphir Renomat, Saphir Plant Based Cleaner and Pure Polish Cleaner Conditioner before. Personally, I prefer Pure Polish.
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post Jan 28 2022, 05:59 PM

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First week of use. Applied conditioner, cream polish and wax polish.

For a weekly cleaning routine, can I just brush off and apply cream and wax again without a cleaning agent?

Plan to maybe use cleaning agent on a monthly basis instead.
niakulah
post Jan 31 2022, 08:29 AM

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QUOTE(rexus @ Jan 28 2022, 05:59 PM)
First week of use. Applied conditioner, cream polish and wax polish.

For a weekly cleaning routine, can I just brush off and apply cream and wax again without a cleaning agent?

Plan to maybe use cleaning agent on a monthly basis instead.
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Brush off the dust before you put them on and after you take them off and tree them. Leave the shoes overnight with the leather soles exposed to the air (I put the heels on something higher and the toes on the ground) so that they dry properly. This is especially important in our weather. The soles constantly getting wet and being put away not properly dry means that black mold grows easily on the leather. Leather is an organic material after all.

That is pretty much my regular routine.

I cream and wax my shoes and use renovatrice on the welt and heels whenever there are obvious scratches or other incidents throughout the day. I looked at them before and after(when I brushed) so I know if something is different.

I give my shoes a full "treatment" maybe twice a year. I've only used a cleaning agent (renomat) once or twice on my very first pair. Did not seem necessary to me, and I've never used it since. Cleaning of actual dirty stuff I do with a damp cloth. Mold I clean with a damp cloth as well, but the water is 1/3 vinegar.

Edit: I rotate between 3-4 pairs. Frequency of full treatment would probably increase if you only had 1-2 pairs. If you only have 1 and need to use it daily, I strongly recommend getting another. Even if it means getting a Bata/Hush Puppies/Tomaz whatever as a cheap alternative before you buy a real pair.

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Hi guys, I am not so experienced with leather formal shoe.
I bought a pair of Hush puppies formal shoe in few years back. The whole sole (outsole & heel) is breaking off. I think it is rubber made. That's why I chose it because comfortable to wear.
Just wondering if there is any sole repair / replacement service?
or I should go for another new pair? I am looking for durable & minimalist one, any recommendations?

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post Mar 22 2022, 10:05 PM

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Hi guys, when you order a shoe online how do you know that it will fit good?
I am looking at some meermin shoes but unfortunately I don't own proper dress shoe before, except a pair of clarks leather shoe, so I have no reference on sizing.
Any tips?
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post Mar 28 2022, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Jan 31 2022, 08:29 AM)
Brush off the dust before you put them on and after you take them off and tree them. Leave the shoes overnight with the leather soles exposed to the air (I put the heels on something higher and the toes on the ground) so that they dry properly. This is especially important in our weather. The soles constantly getting wet and being put away not properly dry means that black mold grows easily on the leather. Leather is an organic material after all.

That is pretty much my regular routine.

I cream and wax my shoes and use renovatrice on the welt and heels whenever there are obvious scratches or other incidents throughout the day. I looked at them before and after(when I brushed) so I know if something is different.

I give my shoes a full "treatment" maybe twice a year. I've only used a cleaning agent (renomat) once or twice on my very first pair. Did not seem necessary to me, and I've never used it since. Cleaning of actual dirty stuff I do with a damp cloth. Mold I clean with a damp cloth as well, but the water is 1/3 vinegar.

Edit: I rotate between 3-4 pairs. Frequency of full treatment would probably increase if you only had 1-2 pairs. If you only have 1 and need to use it daily, I strongly recommend getting another. Even if it means getting a Bata/Hush Puppies/Tomaz whatever as a cheap alternative before you buy a real pair.
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To add on what niakulah said, brushing before and after wear is really important as dust and debris may get into the pores of the leather, in the long run this build up will cause the leather to crack especially where it creases.

Touch up cream and wax whenever there's scuffs. Reapply conditioner, cream polish and wax polish after every 10 wears as good practice.

My full treatment every 6 months is apply sole guard if soles are leather, clean, condition, cream and wax the whole shoe. Condition the welt and cream and wax sole edge.

Not wearing the same shoe continuously 2 days in a row is also very important. Let the leather to rest, wick away sweat and moisture.
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post Mar 28 2022, 10:20 AM

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QUOTE(Holyjolly @ Mar 5 2022, 09:23 PM)
Hi guys, I am not so experienced with leather formal shoe.
I bought a pair of Hush puppies formal shoe in few years back. The whole sole (outsole & heel) is breaking off. I think it is rubber made. That's why I chose it because comfortable to wear.
Just wondering if there is any sole repair / replacement service?
or I should go for another new pair? I am looking for durable & minimalist one, any recommendations?
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I believe any cobbler should be able to glue them back together.
If the leather upper and inside lining are still good, why not.

As for recommendation for your new pair, what is your budget??
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post Mar 28 2022, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(EpsilonStar @ Mar 22 2022, 10:05 PM)
Hi guys, when you order a shoe online how do you know that it will fit good?
I am looking at some meermin shoes but unfortunately I don't own  proper dress shoe before, except a pair of clarks leather shoe, so I have no reference on sizing.
Any tips?
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Unfortunately, there is no 100% guarantee and substitute for trying the shoes on in person.
As I also buy most of my shoes online, I have created a guide here to assist www.thelibrankl.com/shoe-size-guide/

Took me a lot of trial and error to know which brand and size fits me best.
It is also better to estimate slightly larger than smaller just to get the "perfect" fit.
With a slightly larger shoe you can put insole, heel grip or tongue pads to make it fit.
If it is smaller, it is harder and costlier to stretch or impossible to stretch certain parts.
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post Mar 28 2022, 06:47 PM

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QUOTE(thelibran.kl @ Mar 28 2022, 10:29 AM)
Unfortunately, there is no 100% guarantee and substitute for trying the shoes on in person.
As I also buy most of my shoes online, I have created a guide here to assist www.thelibrankl.com/shoe-size-guide/

Took me a lot of trial and error to know which brand and size fits me best.
It is also better to estimate slightly larger than smaller just to get the "perfect" fit.
With a slightly larger shoe you can put insole, heel grip or tongue pads to make it fit.
If it is smaller, it is harder and costlier to stretch or impossible to stretch certain parts.
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Thanks that's really helpful.
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post Mar 30 2022, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(EpsilonStar @ Mar 28 2022, 06:47 PM)
Thanks that's really helpful.
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You're most welcome.
Forgot to mention previously, I may not have experience with Meermin but from what I read, they mostly fit true to size.
Yet they may also be different for each person due to what I wrote in my guide.
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post Apr 14 2022, 03:27 PM

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Anyone bought GW shoes from P. LAL store where located at Jalan Gasing before? I checked their website, prices seem reasonable. Wish to buy my first pair of GW shoes as my work shoe. Previously only bought leather shoes from Aldo or Clarks.
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post Apr 14 2022, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(lvoonjian8888 @ Apr 14 2022, 03:27 PM)
Anyone bought GW shoes from P. LAL store where located at Jalan Gasing before? I checked their website, prices seem reasonable. Wish to buy my first pair of GW shoes as my work shoe. Previously only bought leather shoes from Aldo or Clarks.
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Many people on this thread have. I have personally bought 3 pairs from them.
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post Apr 14 2022, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(niakulah @ Apr 14 2022, 03:29 PM)
Many people on this thread have. I have personally bought 3 pairs from them.
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Then will give it a try tmr. 😊
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QUOTE(lvoonjian8888 @ Apr 14 2022, 05:53 PM)
Then will give it a try tmr. 😊
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Oh you just wanted to know if the shop/merchandise is legit is it? Yeah, it's a very old store. My dad was buying GYW shoes from them more than 30 years ago when they were on Jalan TAR.

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