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Irisflower
post Jun 10 2010, 02:26 PM

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QUOTE(Alan Yong @ Jun 10 2010, 12:23 PM)
If i am not mistaken u r working beside the AIA building.
Well, my opinion is make ia quick move.
Operation skills unable to guarantee ur future life.
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Yea, keep your banking operation knowledge and move to US or Europeen countries to work. My friend works as a banking operation officer in UK earns an around 4500gbp a month with only 3 years experience.


Added on June 10, 2010, 2:29 pmJob Title : Pharmacist
Job Desciption : Medicine prescription
Experience : 2 years
Industry : Health care
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : Pharmacist
salary : RM5000


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calcom21
post Jun 10 2010, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Irisflower @ Jun 10 2010, 02:26 PM)
Yea, keep your banking operation knowledge and move to US or Europeen countries to work. My friend works as a banking operation officer in UK earns an around 4500gbp a month with only 3 years experience.


Added on June 10, 2010, 2:29 pmJob Title : Pharmacist
Job Desciption : Medicine prescription
Experience : 2 years
Industry : Health care
Tenure : Permanent
Experience before joining : Pharmacist
salary : RM5000
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Pharmacist and Doctor is highly paid. But i think i read news somewhere in few years time, we will have oversupply of phamarcist and doctor. For those who is asking whether their job is worth it or not, well you then gotta first figure out 2 main point. 1 is pay and 2 is the exeperience. If pay is low, are you learning anything currently? If no, then it's definitely time to leave. IF yes, then the next question is, do you want to stay to learn as much as you can and hop to another company or leave now? Bear in mind it's not good for you keep hopping job in a short term as ppl will think they you won't stay long unless you have the sufficient answer for it. This is the question i always ask and you will be shocked to receive all kind of answer for that
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post Jun 10 2010, 05:50 PM

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unless there's a sudden major drop in the population, i doubt it VERY VERY MUCH that there will be an oversupply of doctors.

pharmacists are very sought after also. don't think it will be an oversupply so easily also. msian population keeps going up. we're aging at a very slow rate.
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post Jun 11 2010, 01:57 PM

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QUOTE(lexiqa @ Jun 10 2010, 05:50 PM)
unless there's a sudden major drop in the population, i doubt it VERY VERY MUCH that there will be an oversupply of doctors.

pharmacists are very sought after also. don't think it will be an oversupply so easily also. msian population keeps going up. we're aging at a very slow rate.
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Yes, i agreed Malaysia population in upward trends. But you do have to factor in the increase of the number of people studying doctor and phamarcist. If the rate is higher than the increase rate of malaysia population, so i don't see why there can never be oversupply.
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post Jun 11 2010, 02:52 PM

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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jun 11 2010, 01:57 PM)
Yes, i agreed Malaysia population in upward trends. But you do have to factor in the increase of the number of people studying doctor and phamarcist. If the rate is higher than the increase rate of malaysia population, so i don't see why there can never be oversupply.
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u also have to factor in the fact that these ppl stdyin medicine & pharm are migrating ovrseas. so yes, there is a possibility of oversupply for the reason given, but the chances of this happenin in msia in the near future is unlikely.
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post Jun 11 2010, 03:26 PM

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Oversupply of docs in five years, says Chua

KUALA LUMPUR: There will be an oversupply of doctors in five to six years’ time and students should be aware of this future trend, said MCA president Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek.

Dr Chua, a former health minister, added Malaysia would be producing 4,500 doctors each year beginning next year.

The rate of growth would also see the current 30,000 doctors doubling to 55,000 or 60,000 five or six years from now.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...2216&sec=nation

People who argues otherwise, care to comment on this?
Patrick Star
post Jun 11 2010, 03:29 PM

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QUOTE(Alan Yong @ Jun 10 2010, 12:23 PM)
If i am not mistaken u r working beside the AIA building.
Well, my opinion is make ia quick move.
Operation skills unable to guarantee ur future life.
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hw u know? u work thr before? or ur fren work thr before?

actuali i nt interested in tis job at all..jus for money sake..

but the salary nt reali enuf..haih..

if change to other jobs no experience ppl will press down ur salary..

tis current job need us work long hours..i don like it cause make me fatter, no time exerecise and no time for myself..

i want to open own business.start from small first..but nowadays all oso MLM and insurance. i nt interested and vy hard to last long. looking for business opportunity but mostly oso disapointing..


any help n sugestion???






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post Jun 11 2010, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 11 2010, 03:26 PM)
Oversupply of docs in five years, says Chua

KUALA LUMPUR: There will be an oversupply of doctors in five to six years’ time and students should be aware of this future trend, said MCA president Datuk Seri Dr Chua Soi Lek.

Dr Chua, a former health minister, added Malaysia would be producing 4,500 doctors each year beginning next year.

The rate of growth would also see the current 30,000 doctors doubling to 55,000 or 60,000 five or six years from now.

http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=...2216&sec=nation

People who argues otherwise, care to comment on this?
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I can ensure you that among the 4,500 doctors, not all of them will stay in Malaysia... I have no idea, future is unpredictable.
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post Jun 11 2010, 03:52 PM

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QUOTE(Irisflower @ Jun 11 2010, 03:47 PM)
I can ensure you that among the 4,500 doctors, not all of them will stay in Malaysia... I have no idea, future is unpredictable.
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You can ensure me but then you say you have no idea and the future is unpredictable. How assuring. Or rather, how ensuring. biggrin.gif
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post Jun 11 2010, 04:20 PM

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QUOTE(Patrick Star @ Jun 11 2010, 03:29 PM)
hw u know? u work thr before? or ur fren work thr before?

actuali i nt interested in tis job at all..jus for money sake..

but the salary nt reali enuf..haih..

if change to other jobs no experience ppl will press down ur salary..

tis current job need us work long hours..i don like it cause make me fatter, no time exerecise and no time for myself..

i want to open own business.start from small first..but nowadays all oso MLM and insurance. i nt interested and vy hard to last long. looking for business opportunity but mostly oso disapointing..
any help n sugestion???
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My friend work there before, but lucky she quit.

I dont agree that ppl will cut down ur salary because of no experience, especially in banking line.

Find a new job or explore to other business better than your current job.
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post Jun 11 2010, 04:23 PM

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Like any developed countries, eg Australia, England and US, there are already oversupply of doctors in urban areas. Rural areas like Sarawak and Sabah are still very short of doctors. In Penang, the ratio of population to doctor is already 500:1, like any western countries.
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post Jun 11 2010, 04:54 PM

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QUOTE(Alan Yong @ Jun 11 2010, 04:20 PM)
My friend work there before, but lucky she quit.

I dont agree that ppl will cut down ur salary because of no experience, especially in banking line.

Find a new job or explore to other business better than your current job.
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yeah..here turn over rate vy high.. my bro gt a fren work here two months quit ledi..i ledi here 6 months..i not interested in banking line actuali.

i don reali wana find job anymore..wana look for business opportunity..but most oso MLM n insurance..nt reali interested..cant last long..

any sugestions or advice?
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post Jun 12 2010, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(Starbucki @ Jun 11 2010, 03:52 PM)
You can ensure me but then you say you have no idea and the future is unpredictable. How assuring. Or rather, how ensuring. biggrin.gif
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indeed. things happened. not because of those are skilled job make any different in term of oversupplying and such.

if there is a mock of trends that everyone going after law study, i can bet to you, the same thing will happened to lawyer's paid.

every job is still a job.. icon_idea.gif
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post Jun 12 2010, 04:01 PM

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hi,any of working in oil and gas industry ma??? i would like to know what are the salary range for fresh grad with 2 years experience in Accounting /Finance in IT MNC?

my fren told me in MNC moreover is in Oil & Gas industry, u can put in increment as much as 40% from ur previous salary, isit true??coz normally it is 20%,am i right??

Kindly in need of advise above..
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QUOTE(Patricia_85 @ Jun 12 2010, 04:01 PM)
hi,any of working in oil and gas industry ma??? i would like to know what are the salary range for fresh grad with 2 years experience in Accounting /Finance in IT MNC?

my fren told me in MNC moreover is in Oil & Gas industry, u can put in increment as much as 40% from ur previous salary, isit true??coz normally it is 20%,am i right??

Kindly in need of advise above..
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the bargaining law is simple. it's by your mouth not by your previous experience.

one can have super experience/skillset but couldn't elaborate pretty on what he/she contributed to his/her ex-company

after all, you should've a good vitae that relate your experience into the job you applying without stating your previous paid

tell them, this is skills that I can offer to you and that this is my asking price. back to back = system barter laaa...


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post Jun 12 2010, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(ed1torz @ Jun 12 2010, 04:07 PM)
the bargaining law is simple. it's by your mouth not by your previous experience.

one can have super experience/skillset but couldn't elaborate pretty on what he/she contributed to his/her ex-company

after all, you should've a good vitae that relate your experience into the job you applying without stating your previous paid

tell them, this is skills that I can offer to you and that this is my asking price. back to back = system barter laaa...
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oo..im very aware of the bargaining law but the thing is, i wanna know the market price from oil n gas industry line or else, how am i gonna put my expected salary? if i put too high,it might be a nonsense...to me is acceptable but to them it might be the other way round. that's why i thought of knowing the market price for this line before i'm putting any figures in.. i applied for the job without stating my expected salary and not even my previous salary..forgotten about that..should have include it in..now is too late..can anyone enlightened me??? really need a piece of advise here ..and 1 more thing,being a Degree holder + ACCA finalist +2 years working exp in IT MNC..how much salary should i be asking?? i'm very confident with my interview skills but sometimes salary is the main problem when it comes to hiring / not..to me it is a very sensitive issue as well..even if i put negotiable some company won't even bother to negotiate.. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Jun 14 2010, 06:17 PM

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QUOTE(Patricia_85 @ Jun 12 2010, 04:16 PM)
oo..im very aware of the bargaining law but the thing is, i wanna know the market price from oil n gas industry line or else, how am i gonna put my expected salary? if i put too high,it might be a nonsense...to me is acceptable but to them it might be the other way round. that's why i thought  of knowing the market price for this line before i'm putting any figures in.. i applied for the job without stating my expected salary and not even my previous salary..forgotten about that..should have include it in..now is too late..can anyone enlightened me??? really need a piece of advise here ..and  1 more thing,being a Degree holder + ACCA finalist +2 years working exp in IT MNC..how much salary should i be asking?? i'm very confident with my interview skills but sometimes salary is the main problem when it comes to hiring / not..to me it is a very sensitive issue as well..even if i put negotiable some company won't even bother to negotiate.. sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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I have audited a welknown Oil and Gas company before. I can tell you that the pay you getting from there will be the same as other MNC. There might be +/- some variances depending on your experience. But will not varies so much. But i can tell you you get other benefits including bonuses which are well paid.
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post Jun 14 2010, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(calcom21 @ Jun 14 2010, 06:17 PM)
I have audited a welknown Oil and Gas company before. I can tell you that the pay you getting from there will be the same as other MNC. There might be +/- some variances depending on your experience. But will not varies so much. But i can tell you you get other benefits including bonuses which are well paid.
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ic.. ok~~thanks for the confirmation. smile.gif
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post Jun 18 2010, 10:26 PM

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Job title: Design Engineer
Job Description: 3D design related automotive department
Company/Industry: Automotive
Location: Shah Alam
Tenure: Permanent
Employment level: Executive
Experience before joining: 4 yrs
Salary: RM1.8k

Is it my salary is very low. Please comment.
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Hi all, not sure if anyone here able to advice what is the market salary range for team leader role in MNC?

Thanks.

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