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kevyeoh
post Sep 30 2023, 06:46 PM

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3 years earn more than 3mil in total...if i were you...retire straight away already...since retire no need to meet HNW clients..can live a frugal lifestyle... take interest from savings can survive already... biggrin.gif
QUOTE(furuku89 @ Sep 30 2023, 10:00 AM)
Age: 34
Occupation: Financial Advisor working under investment banks
Working duration: 6 years
Commission earner: 1.1M on 2021, 1.6M on 2022, this year 2023 should be higher
Marital Status: Just married, 1 daughter
*Have some small other 7 F&B franchise businesses not collected any profit yet, I am a small shareholder of sleeping partner*

Savings/Assets:
1. Saving RM 100K
2. PRS 520K, (I pay alot PRS due to I no longer contribute EPF)
3. EPF 130K
4. Started collecting branded watches this year value: RM 230K, easily sell to any 2nd hand reseller at RM 180K (Audemars Piguet)
5. Myvi 2012, full payment mum driving
6. Crz 2013, full payment dad driving

Total Assets: 930K, (not including mum and dad’s car)

Liabilities:
1. Property A under loan repayment another 30 Years, monthly repayment RM 2000
2. Property B under loan repayment another 30 Years, monthly repayment RM 1900
3. Subaru BRZ 2014, under loan repayment another 8 more months, monthly repayment RM 2300 (this can be asset after 8 months)
4. Upcoming Brand New Porsche Taycan GTS 2023, under loan repayment another 9 years upcoming on Oct 2023, monthly repayment RM 8500
5. Insurance, RM 3600 per month, alot of life insurance
6. Maid, RM 1850 per month
7. Upcoming liabilities for next year seeking property at 2.8M loan @ monthly repayment around 12K per month on 2024
8. High maintenance wife 🤣, not declaring amount
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post Dec 7 2023, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(IzaakC @ Jan 4 2023, 04:32 PM)
Updating 1 yr 3 mths later (As of Dec 22)

Age: 28
Occupation: S.Exec in Listed Company
Salary: RM 5.5k
Marital Status: Attached

Liability:
Study loan: Cleared
Car loan: RM 18.9k
House loan: RM 295k

Assets:
EPF: RM 52.2k
Stock: RM 19.2k
FSM: RM 2.3k
ASNB: RM 2.8k
Robo #1 Stashaway: RM 6.2k
Robo #2 Akru: RM 1.5k
Robo #3 KDI: RM 1.1k
Cash in KDI Save (3.5% pa): RM 13k

Cleared PTPTN with a 15% discount in early 2022 by emptying the emergency fund. Signed S&P for a residential project in early 2022. Will be getting a promotion in Q1 2023 to AM with 8k salary.

To-do list:
1. Bump up the emergency fund
2. Review/consolidate contributions to ETFs
3. Budgeting & saving for reno + marriage
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Updated.

Age: 29
Occupation: AM in PLC
Salary: RM 8k
Marital Status: Attached

Liability
Car loan: RM 9k
House loan: RM 295k (Only paying progressive interest atm)

Assets:
EPF: RM 75k
Stock: RM 37k
FSM: RM 5k
ASNB: RM 25k
Robo #1 SAMY: RM 11k
Robo #2 Akru: RM 3.1k
Cash in KDI Save (4.0% pa): RM 5k

Key highlights as below:

- Moved my emergency fund to ASNB with the aim for a higher rate (<4.5% pa vs 4.0% pa)
- Most of my stock counters rallied this year & realised losses for certain weak performers
- Cut off KDI Invest as performance is quite poor, SAMY & Akru performances are satisfactory

To-do list:

- Further optimise the combination of stock counters with lower-risk ones at the right entry price + fully offloading the remaining underperformers
- Perhaps early settlement of car loan during mid-2024 with the aim to improve future cash flow rather than interest saving (thought of doing it this year but >10k is quite painful)
- Consider exploring other classes of assets (cryptos, collectables, bonds, etc.)

Any advice for me ah? My current saving cum investment rate is about 38% of my net salary... But somehow I feel my progress is a bit slow (average at best) when I compare myself with my peers (I know I shouldn't but it's difficult to not compare) who drive C seg cars, stay in landed/mid-high range condos, get married and some even have kids already.

This post has been edited by IzaakC: Dec 7 2023, 05:02 PM
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post Dec 7 2023, 08:24 PM

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QUOTE(furuku89 @ Sep 30 2023, 10:00 AM)
Age: 34
Occupation: Financial Advisor working under investment banks
Working duration: 6 years
Commission earner: 1.1M on 2021, 1.6M on 2022, this year 2023 should be higher
Marital Status: Just married, 1 daughter
*Have some small other 7 F&B franchise businesses not collected any profit yet, I am a small shareholder of sleeping partner*

Savings/Assets:
1. Saving RM 100K
2. PRS 520K, (I pay alot PRS due to I no longer contribute EPF)
3. EPF 130K
4. Started collecting branded watches this year value: RM 230K, easily sell to any 2nd hand reseller at RM 180K (Audemars Piguet)
5. Myvi 2012, full payment mum driving
6. Crz 2013, full payment dad driving

Total Assets: 930K, (not including mum and dad’s car)

Liabilities:
1. Property A under loan repayment another 30 Years, monthly repayment RM 2000
2. Property B under loan repayment another 30 Years, monthly repayment RM 1900
3. Subaru BRZ 2014, under loan repayment another 8 more months, monthly repayment RM 2300 (this can be asset after 8 months)
4. Upcoming Brand New Porsche Taycan GTS 2023, under loan repayment another 9 years upcoming on Oct 2023, monthly repayment RM 8500
5. Insurance, RM 3600 per month, alot of life insurance
6. Maid, RM 1850 per month
7. Upcoming liabilities for next year seeking property at 2.8M loan @ monthly repayment around 12K per month on 2024
8. High maintenance wife 🤣, not declaring amount
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Well done bro. I'm particularly interested in your upcoming Taycan GTS. I drive a 911 GTS and I would love to hear your thoughts on your car when you take delivery of it. Maybe we can compare notes.

Well done again bro!
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post Dec 7 2023, 09:41 PM

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QUOTE(furuku89 @ Sep 30 2023, 10:00 AM)
Age: 34
Occupation: Financial Advisor working under investment banks
Working duration: 6 years
Commission earner: 1.1M on 2021, 1.6M on 2022, this year 2023 should be higher
Marital Status: Just married, 1 daughter
*Have some small other 7 F&B franchise businesses not collected any profit yet, I am a small shareholder of sleeping partner*

Savings/Assets:
1. Saving RM 100K
2. PRS 520K, (I pay alot PRS due to I no longer contribute EPF)
3. EPF 130K
4. Started collecting branded watches this year value: RM 230K, easily sell to any 2nd hand reseller at RM 180K (Audemars Piguet)
5. Myvi 2012, full payment mum driving
6. Crz 2013, full payment dad driving

Total Assets: 930K, (not including mum and dad’s car)

Liabilities:
1. Property A under loan repayment another 30 Years, monthly repayment RM 2000
2. Property B under loan repayment another 30 Years, monthly repayment RM 1900
3. Subaru BRZ 2014, under loan repayment another 8 more months, monthly repayment RM 2300 (this can be asset after 8 months)
4. Upcoming Brand New Porsche Taycan GTS 2023, under loan repayment another 9 years upcoming on Oct 2023, monthly repayment RM 8500
5. Insurance, RM 3600 per month, alot of life insurance
6. Maid, RM 1850 per month
7. Upcoming liabilities for next year seeking property at 2.8M loan @ monthly repayment around 12K per month on 2024
8. High maintenance wife 🤣, not declaring amount
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Whoa bro you need RM40k to pay bills monthly,
and you have so little in cash compared to your RM1.6million income

And that income is not salary but commissions,
if me i would be very worried with so much bills to pay relying on commissions




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post Dec 8 2023, 06:56 AM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 7 2023, 09:41 PM)
Whoa bro you need RM40k to pay bills monthly,
and you have so little in cash compared to your RM1.6million income

And that income is not salary but commissions,
if me i would be very worried with so much  bills to pay relying on commissions
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40k /mth needs 6 mths emergency fund....RM240k minimum.
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post Dec 8 2023, 07:40 AM

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QUOTE(furuku89 @ Sep 30 2023, 10:00 AM)
Age: 34
Occupation: Financial Advisor working under investment banks
Working duration: 6 years
Commission earner: 1.1M on 2021, 1.6M on 2022, this year 2023 should be higher
Marital Status: Just married, 1 daughter
*Have some small other 7 F&B franchise businesses not collected any profit yet, I am a small shareholder of sleeping partner*

Savings/Assets:
1. Saving RM 100K
2. PRS 520K, (I pay alot PRS due to I no longer contribute EPF)
3. EPF 130K
4. Started collecting branded watches this year value: RM 230K, easily sell to any 2nd hand reseller at RM 180K (Audemars Piguet)
5. Myvi 2012, full payment mum driving
6. Crz 2013, full payment dad driving

Total Assets: 930K, (not including mum and dad’s car)

Liabilities:
1. Property A under loan repayment another 30 Years, monthly repayment RM 2000
2. Property B under loan repayment another 30 Years, monthly repayment RM 1900
3. Subaru BRZ 2014, under loan repayment another 8 more months, monthly repayment RM 2300 (this can be asset after 8 months)
4. Upcoming Brand New Porsche Taycan GTS 2023, under loan repayment another 9 years upcoming on Oct 2023, monthly repayment RM 8500
5. Insurance, RM 3600 per month, alot of life insurance
6. Maid, RM 1850 per month
7. Upcoming liabilities for next year seeking property at 2.8M loan @ monthly repayment around 12K per month on 2024
8. High maintenance wife 🤣, not declaring amount
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Question to you :-
1. Does your PRS returns win over EPF over the years ?
2. Why do you think the BRZ is an asset ?
3. Are Property A & B covered by their rental income ?
4. When RM millions commission dry up, what's your backup plan ?

Clearly "earn more spend more" mantra is not very safe strategy.
lordgamer3
post Dec 9 2023, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(jacboy @ Sep 10 2009, 07:07 PM)
Ladies and Gentlemen, member of the press,

I am new here smile.gif
May I ask you all the following questions. As LYN has very vast pool ppl from all kind of backgrounds, so this is going to be a good pool of
information sharing.

I want to learn if my existing financial status and net worth is healty, lousy, etc.

So I want to share my info and hope you can share your info too. Please follow the format. At the end of the sharing, you can add your comment/advice.
Age: 28
Occupation: Service Engineer
Marital Status: Not Married but got gf.
Asset(s):

House (2 stories)-
RM220k Outstanding Loan: RM 98k  15 years more

Car (Japanese car)-
Market Value: RM 60k Outstanding Loan RM 45k 4 years more
Liability (ies):
Study loan: RM115k -borrowed from my uncle and he say when he need money will ask from me, any moment(cash)!
Parents, sorry ah pa and ah ma to call you all liability smile.gif

Insurance:
Life: RM20k

Investment:
Bond: RM20k
FD: RM 220k

Cash in hand
RM10k
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Your FD healthy
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post Dec 9 2023, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(ken8888 @ Sep 18 2021, 08:15 AM)
Age: 27
Occupation: banker
Marital status: single

Asset:
Cash in multiple currencies = 30k
FD = 10k
Stocks = 24k
Unit trust = 23k
PRS = 12k
EPF = 97k
ASNB = 117k

Liabilities:
Property loan = 350k (already dumped in extra 50k)
Car loan = 68k

Income = 5.3k monthly + commission average 2-3k monthly
Commitment monthly = 5100 total

Am I doing ok for my age? Any advice? Thanks
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Would like to review my portfolio's performance after two years time.
I am planning to purchase another property in next 1-2 years time with price around RM 650k. Is my current saving and spending rate healthy? any advice to further increase my wealth? Thanks

Age: 29
Occupation: Banker
Marital status: single

Asset:
Cash in multiple currencies = 24k
Stocks = 13.5k
Unit trust = 40k
PRS = 15.7k
EPF = 171k
ASNB = 142.5k

Liabilities:
Property loan = 338k (payment in advance 70k)
Car loan = 52k

Income = 7k monthly gross salary + commission average 2k monthly + rental income 1.5k monthly
Commitment monthly = 5500 total

gashout
post Dec 10 2023, 05:36 PM

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QUOTE(ken8888 @ Dec 9 2023, 10:27 PM)
Would like to review my portfolio's performance after two years time.
I am planning to purchase another property in next 1-2 years time with price around RM 650k. Is my current saving and spending rate healthy? any advice to further increase my wealth? Thanks

Age: 29
Occupation: Banker
Marital status: single

Asset:
Cash in multiple currencies = 24k
Stocks = 13.5k
Unit trust = 40k
PRS = 15.7k
EPF = 171k
ASNB = 142.5k

Liabilities:
Property loan = 338k (payment in advance 70k)
Car loan = 52k

Income = 7k monthly gross salary + commission average 2k monthly + rental income 1.5k monthly
Commitment monthly = 5500 total
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A very solid incremental net worth build up.

the EPF portfolio is amazing for a 29 year old. ASNB too. both = 300k, amazing.

Thanks for sharing thumbsup.gif

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post Dec 10 2023, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(guy3288 @ Dec 7 2023, 09:41 PM)
Whoa bro you need RM40k to pay bills monthly,
and you have so little in cash compared to your RM1.6million income

And that income is not salary but commissions,
if me i would be very worried with so much  bills to pay relying on commissions
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Dec 8 2023, 07:40 AM)
Question to you :-
1. Does your PRS returns win over EPF over the years ?
2. Why do you think the BRZ is an asset ?
3. Are Property A & B covered by their rental income ?
4. When RM millions commission dry up, what's your backup plan ?

Clearly "earn more spend more" mantra is not very safe strategy.
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Living a very high life, lifestyle is being funded by commission. Once that water tap shuts, really 404.

If annual income around 1 mil, 6 years of work only getting less than 1 mil net worth. I am not sure where most money is spent.




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post Dec 10 2023, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 10 2023, 05:40 PM)
Living a very high life, lifestyle is being funded by commission. Once that water tap shuts, really 404.

If annual income around 1 mil, 6 years of work only getting less than 1 mil net worth. I am not sure where most money is spent.
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certain job nature require high spending to make sure the deals keep coming in.
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post Dec 11 2023, 06:35 AM

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QUOTE(furuku89 @ Sep 30 2023, 10:00 AM)
Age: 34
Occupation: Financial Advisor working under investment banks
Working duration: 6 years
Commission earner: 1.1M on 2021, 1.6M on 2022, this year 2023 should be higher
Marital Status: Just married, 1 daughter
*Have some small other 7 F&B franchise businesses not collected any profit yet, I am a small shareholder of sleeping partner*

Savings/Assets:
1. Saving RM 100K
2. PRS 520K, (I pay alot PRS due to I no longer contribute EPF)
3. EPF 130K
4. Started collecting branded watches this year value: RM 230K, easily sell to any 2nd hand reseller at RM 180K (Audemars Piguet)
5. Myvi 2012, full payment mum driving
6. Crz 2013, full payment dad driving

Total Assets: 930K, (not including mum and dad’s car)

Liabilities:
1. Property A under loan repayment another 30 Years, monthly repayment RM 2000
2. Property B under loan repayment another 30 Years, monthly repayment RM 1900
3. Subaru BRZ 2014, under loan repayment another 8 more months, monthly repayment RM 2300 (this can be asset after 8 months)
4. Upcoming Brand New Porsche Taycan GTS 2023, under loan repayment another 9 years upcoming on Oct 2023, monthly repayment RM 8500
5. Insurance, RM 3600 per month, alot of life insurance
6. Maid, RM 1850 per month
7. Upcoming liabilities for next year seeking property at 2.8M loan @ monthly repayment around 12K per month on 2024
8. High maintenance wife 🤣, not declaring amount
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Latest here, I did try to adjust more saving ratio by lowering my entertainment expenses. The nature of my job required high spending to sustain my income to bring in more sales and overriding.

Saving/Asset:
1. Saving: 260K
2. PRS: 570K
3. EPF: 130K
4. Watch Value: 180K Min (AP)
5. Myvi 2012 full payment
6. Crz 2013 full payment
7. Brz 2013 full payment

Liabilities:
1. Property A, 30 Years, RM 2K monthly
2. Property B, 30 Years, RM 2K monrhly
3. Porsche GTS 2023, RM 8.5K monthly
4. Insurance RM 3.6K monthly
5. Maid RM 1850 monthly
6. Upcoming housing loan, RM 12K monthly on 2024
7. Still high maintenance wife

This post has been edited by furuku89: Dec 11 2023, 06:53 AM
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post Dec 11 2023, 06:47 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Dec 8 2023, 07:40 AM)
Question to you :-
1. Does your PRS returns win over EPF over the years ?
2. Why do you think the BRZ is an asset ?
3. Are Property A & B covered by their rental income ?
4. When RM millions commission dry up, what's your backup plan ?

Clearly "earn more spend more" mantra is not very safe strategy.
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1. I personally think yes, but over a long period of averaging
2. Fully paid off can sell anytime
3. No, 1 own stay and 1 preparing to sell.
4. Well, more than 50% of my income came from overriding of team sales.
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post Dec 11 2023, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(furuku89 @ Dec 11 2023, 06:35 AM)
Latest here, I did try to adjust more saving ratio by lowering my entertainment expenses. The nature of my job required high spending to sustain my income to bring in more sales and overriding.

Saving/Asset:
1. Saving: 260K
2. PRS: 570K
3. EPF: 130K
4. Watch Value: 180K Min (AP)
5. Myvi 2012 full payment
6. Crz 2013 full payment
7. Brz 2013 full payment

Liabilities:
1. Property A, 30 Years, RM 2K monthly
2. Property B, 30 Years, RM 2K monrhly
3. Porsche GTS 2023, RM 8.5K monthly
4. Insurance RM 3.6K monthly
5. Maid RM 1850 monthly
6. Upcoming housing loan, RM 12K monthly on 2024
7. Still high maintenance wife
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Other than the PRS, do you invest in any of your company's funds?

By the way, does building a profile really work? In terms of recruitment i understand the allure but for clients'.. does it work?

Genuinely curious..
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post Dec 11 2023, 10:21 PM

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Nearly end of 2023, let me add to this topic for posterity.

Age: 50
Occupation: Work at a Bank
Marital status: Single n available 😎 (Divorced with 1 kid)

Financial.Assets (MYR value)
Emergency Fund (ASB n Flexi) = 220k
DIY portfolio (stocks, bonds, etf, funds) = 1.3M
KWSP = 2.4M
PRS = 60k

Real Estate (est market value)
House 1 = 950k (own stay)
House 2 = 800k (parent stay, no rent)
Land = 300k

Liabilities
Housing loans = 380k
No other loans
Son already at uni n his funding separately provided for

This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Dec 12 2023, 10:22 AM
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post Dec 12 2023, 05:37 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Dec 11 2023, 10:21 PM)
Nearly end of 2023, let me add to this topic for posterity.

Age: 50
Occupation: Work at a Bank
Martial status: Single n available 😎 (Divorced with 1 kid)

Financial.Assets (MYR value)
Emergency Fund (ASB n Flexi) = 220k
DIY portfolio (stocks, bonds, etf, funds) = 1.3M
KWSP = 2.4M
PRS = 60k

Real Estate (est market value)
House 1 = 950k (own stay)
House 2 = 800k (parent stay, no rent)
Land = 300k

Liabilities
Housing loans = 380k
No other loans
Son already at uni n his funding separately provided for
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Bravo. From his inspiring numbers, can you share with us, how did you reach to this level? I mean you are a good son, and you look after your own retirement well, together with a child.

Would you say the industry you are in allow you to get this portfolio? Or was it the right investment that led you to today's number?

Are you going to retire soon or are you in a very good position in the company that you are happy to stay there?

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post Dec 12 2023, 09:04 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Dec 11 2023, 11:21 PM)
Nearly end of 2023, let me add to this topic for posterity.

Age: 50
Occupation: Work at a Bank
Martial status: Single n available 😎 (Divorced with 1 kid)

Financial.Assets (MYR value)
Emergency Fund (ASB n Flexi) = 220k
DIY portfolio (stocks, bonds, etf, funds) = 1.3M
KWSP = 2.4M
PRS = 60k

Real Estate (est market value)
House 1 = 950k (own stay)
House 2 = 800k (parent stay, no rent)
Land = 300k

Liabilities
Housing loans = 380k
No other loans
Son already at uni n his funding separately provided for
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That's a commendable portfolio bro, and well done to achieve these at 50 notworthy.gif
You must be at senior management level in banking at the very least.
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post Dec 12 2023, 09:38 AM

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QUOTE(Cubalagi @ Dec 11 2023, 10:21 PM)
Nearly end of 2023, let me add to this topic for posterity.

Age: 50
Occupation: Work at a Bank
Martial status: Single n available 😎 (Divorced with 1 kid)

Financial.Assets (MYR value)
Emergency Fund (ASB n Flexi) = 220k
DIY portfolio (stocks, bonds, etf, funds) = 1.3M
KWSP = 2.4M
PRS = 60k

Real Estate (est market value)
House 1 = 950k (own stay)
House 2 = 800k (parent stay, no rent)
Land = 300k

Liabilities
Housing loans = 380k
No other loans
Son already at uni n his funding separately provided for
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given your current status, you can definitely FIRE.
so may i ask what is motivating you to continue working?
I take it that life at the bank is tolerable hence your continuity to work?
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post Dec 12 2023, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(gashout @ Dec 12 2023, 05:37 AM)
Bravo. From his inspiring numbers, can you share with us, how did you reach to this level? I mean you are a good son, and you look after your own retirement well, together with a child.

Would you say the industry you are in allow you to get this portfolio?  Or was it the right investment that led you to today's number?

Are you going to retire soon or are you in a very good position in the company that you are happy to stay there?
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I think the finance sector is still one of the better paying economic sector. Epf employer contribution also tend to be higher (like 15-16%). But it can be back breaking work esp at middle management nowadays.

I plan to work until 55 and then call it quits. Contemplated of doing it earlier, but so far can still tahan. Personal financial target is to get the financial assets number above RM5m.

N yeah, Im sandwich generation, funding my own child and ailing parents who have little in way of retirement funds. A lot of compromises. One of the thing which drive me to accumulate is so that i dont financially burden my son and society in general in my twilight years.

QUOTE(romuluz777 @ Dec 12 2023, 09:04 AM)
That's a commendable portfolio bro, and well done to achieve these at 50 notworthy.gif
You must be at senior management level in banking at the very least.
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Not really senior management. Thats division head level. Im at dpt head level, of a small dpt. I guess Im like a branch manager level if Im in consumer banking.

Im a bit thrifty tho, just B class car n no designer watches etc. But since the kid is sorted out n retirement funds is on track, my life style is more yolo (single guy maa 😆).

This post has been edited by Cubalagi: Dec 12 2023, 10:01 AM
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post Dec 12 2023, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(cactus1 @ Sep 11 2009, 10:56 AM)
incredible. you are future tycoon.

1. assuming the house when u initial purchased is 220k, outstanding loan 98k, so
220k-90k = 130k DOWNPAYMENT.

2. BOND = 20K

3. FD = 220K

4. CASH = 10K

TOTAL = 130K + 20K + 220K + 10K = 380K

You 28, service engineer, assume u graduated at 23(the earliest), working experience = 5 years.

RM 380,000/60 MONTHS = RM 6333

RM 6333 excluding all your expenses.

this is very healthy, but, i think it is bullshit more than anything.
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not bcuz of the grapes are sour, i agree with some points that some of the numbers are just bullsh1t
borrow money from uncle and no intention to pay back also, only return when ask, but himself keep FD for 220k
lancau la lu!
fk off

This post has been edited by ychlee: Dec 12 2023, 09:52 AM

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