Would you pay for something you haven't see ?
I m quite piss of with a guy in this forum .
He demand me to pay him without seeing the house/room
how can I ?
what if there is no such house/room existed ?

Tell me now

Would u pay for it ?



* he told me if I m not satisfied or don't want the room he will forfeit my money

and he said I m buying his time to get a better a room


I thought this is our right to choose whatever we like right ..
Since this is MY MONEY !

He say to bank in money to him first to protect his right as A OWNER .
LOL

then whr is my right ?

should b see first,

no offense, but women tend to be emotional in conflicts such as this.
and women will start to fabricate truths and bending them to make it the odds to their favor.
we'll need to listen to both sides of the story. u know, unbiased.

ask him.. go to hell..

he don't sound like a professional dealer
nor honest man.

cod best way

can go here

mebbe got face problem i think

Yes. I told him . He thought I m just some student who are new and easy to deceive . Sorry , I have some experience and I have met a lots of ppl who does that .

I m really angry with him . He thought being an owner is so great .
We re the people who will be living thr and he doesn't respect me .


No matter how , I will only believe upon seeing it .

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Added on September 2, 2009, 2:08 amAnd he told me he is some ex lecturer and got some connection in the college where I will be enrolled .

I will ask u this , will a cheater tell u he is a cheater ?

This post has been edited by missAnnabella: Sep 2 2009, 02:08 AM

Damn. i won't even buy/rent from such an a-hole

sure give more problem wan

find another house loh, what college you enrolling ?

Just ignore him.. You must remember, customers always right. If he dont respect your decision since you are his customer, dont bother him anymore.

beat him up with falcon punch

Yup , I cannot accept such person as my owner .

He even question my sincerity , Wth lols
If I m not interested why do I bother pm him and discussing abt the house thingy with him . =_="'

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Added on September 2, 2009, 2:14 amI will be enrolled at ucsi cheras . I came from Malacca and I purposely take a day off to see the house .

This post has been edited by missAnnabella: Sep 2 2009, 02:14 AM

is this one of those topics to secure a believable persona before you go on to tarp /k/tards?

LOL LOL LOL .....


excuse me . I m just expressing my thought here .
I don't need to create a believable persona .
Because I have nothing to sell, rent or anything .



This post has been edited by missAnnabella: Sep 2 2009, 02:19 AM

tht's a very relevant question..

and how come u know the relevant answer to the question....

Hellooooo! I m about to being con and now you are saying I m trying to con ppl... Sigh =_='''

i wont buy things that i havent see yet.

Not taking advantage. He is just being an idiot.

Update :

He told me to delete the thread and called me childish . WTH ?


Who is he ? why is he telling me what to do ?

Is he afraid that I might exposed him ?







he is challenging me to post the content of his msg

then post it. along with his account and his personal details.

hey, he is in here? Why don't you show yourself? And give your side of the story, if there is one.

Can I do that ?

I wish to do that ...

can he report me for doing it ?

he cant report you silly. based on what? defamation? pffft.

just do it.

report you for something in /k..

now thats a LOL

you can just post the link to his ad.

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Added on September 2, 2009, 2:38 amstill no post from the guy? hey, this is kopitiam. where people grow testicles.

This post has been edited by joe_mamak: Sep 2 2009, 02:38 AM

Now is he is asking me if I m interested in the room again =_='''


I don't know there is such a person who existed @.@

http://forum.lowyat.net/user/limsp
http://forum.lowyat.net/user/ryu88
http://forum.lowyat.net/user/lilqill

which one?

haha. he wants to get back at you if you are daft enough to take the room.

99chan none at above .
He has an avatar .

Find other room.

/closethread

don't like, don't pay.

tak suka,jangan bayar.

bodoh bodoh,bodoh bodoh


finish
tamat

http://forum.lowyat.net/user/7223

bingo.

oh come on, there were only 4 people you asked about the place to stay, 3 of them 99chan already asked if it was them, only one left.

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Added on September 2, 2009, 2:45 ameh, im late a bit.

This post has been edited by penmarker: Sep 2 2009, 02:45 AM

lol . 99chan so enthusiast .

The problem is I don't like the way he treat ppl .

He keep pushing me to pay !

I don't like people forcing me to do something .
Although I need a room but I m not that desperate .




AND AND HE SAY HE WILL MAKE A POLICE REPORT @.@

yes please make a police report. I think the policeman would have a good laugh at your report.

What is this bullshit dupe pretending to be a dupe but tarp a dupe then house no pay dupe tarp cat avatar room need pay to be another dupe tarping the house owner by duping him that he doesn't need to pay.

Hello ! I didnt say u cheated me . I just say that there is a possibility and go ahead and make a police report .


What do u want to report me abt?

I m not 3 year old who will get threaten by this kind of thing !

why cant both of you come clean with the situation here.
we're all online, no punches, no threats.

by demanding a payment is a deal made, no?

And I did not mention his name lorrr....


Siapa buat salah dia terasa la

the moment if he tell me that i would have looking for other room.

No where was it ever mentioned there was any transaction taken place. TS only said you ATTEMPTED to cheat her by forcing her to pay an upfront non-refundable payment just to see the unit.

Is this true?

Why he is so nervous abt this thread if he has done nothing wrong ?

Wait a minute...what room are you renting? Is it a kitchen?

edit: hmm srs thread. joke taken back.

This post has been edited by winkybear: Sep 2 2009, 02:53 AM

lol no point gaduh. cut off the deal. sudah. end of story.

So you're saying you did not pester her nor force her to pay any upfront payment first prior to viewing the premise first?

This means she can view and decide on the unit FREE of CHARGE ?

we are all just userids in a forum. what defamation are you talking about?

can you 2 just post the conversation log here.
instead of making up imbalanced accusations.

you gotta view the room first, bring yer dad kay?

wow that is a stupid seller.

this should be on LYN dispute don't u think?

This made me lol.

PS it is common courtesy, i'd go so far as to say obligation for a house owner/chief tenant to let potential tenants have a look at the premises they want to rent out.

If the house owner refuses, the potential tenant has as much right to reject the offer to rent and get back any deposit paid.

Besides, if you aren't paying TAXES for renting out your house.... taulah apa jadi if any authorities hear about it.

so youre saying that there is a possibility of you carrying out the 'scam'

LOL

Who in their right mind would want to pay any upfront deposit first before viewing the place?

WOULD YOU?

This is an ATTEMPT TO DECEIVE. Note the difference, dum dum

well, if what she alleges is true, who wants to rent from you anyway?

I also don't want to rent ur house !


and u re the one who come here and claims that u re that owner .


This post has been edited by missAnnabella: Sep 2 2009, 03:01 AM

Ragnarok Online?

OP did say that you demanded the rent payment before the actual visitation took place. not cheating her by not showing her the place.

yeah, and what happens after she decides she doesn't like the place? sounds credible that what she alleges is true; i.e. the deposit would be forfeited.

this is so funny

Stop skirting the question

Did you or did you not demand payment first before letting her view the premise?

@joe_mamak : agree

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Added on September 2, 2009, 3:02 ambtw ro_player .. how much the deposit?

This post has been edited by yunaalisa: Sep 2 2009, 03:02 AM

wtf. Lack of common sense you have.

that is a first. since when do we need to pay to view a place?

U call me to pay first before view la and u told me if I don't want to rent u will forfeit it !

RM 480






How many times I have to tell u I m not available on that day and u told me u re very dissapointed la ...
something la because I didnt bank in !

This post has been edited by missAnnabella: Sep 2 2009, 03:06 AM

bit too high don't u think just to view the room? if afraid ffk below 50 oso can.

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Added on September 2, 2009, 3:05 amafter she agree then only u mintak the deposit for the 2 month + everything..

This post has been edited by yunaalisa: Sep 2 2009, 03:05 AM

LOL

This is even worse!!!!

There is no such thing as booking without first viewing and considering and AGREEING to rent. Why should the person be "confident" of your place? Its so good that everyone MUST rent there without even knowing what's it like?

RM480 deposit before viewing, which will be forfeit if dun like the place?

HAHAHA good luck renting out your 'mansion'.

His thread:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=1121406&hl=

Seeing places also have to booked first .. feel like doing a reservation at the 5 star hotel in school holiday

^ omg, he still don't understand @@

It is within context, you dimwit.

A deposit of rental shall ONLY be paid if the person agrees to rent your premise. Other than that, you have NO RIGHT to demand payment.

ok so stop fighting la.

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Added on September 2, 2009, 3:09 amoh tiru u guys a bit. kthxbai2

This post has been edited by yunaalisa: Sep 2 2009, 03:09 AM

So, would you return the money if she decided against taking the place?

The silence is deafening.

I m very tired of listening to his illogical explanation .

Nite .. i shall go to sleep . working tmr

reminds me of the 7 star hotel n Dubai, which you need to pay to entering the area of hotel

Judging from your posts and actions, you don't sound like a very reasonable chap either.

wow 1st time i ever heard that u need to PAY to view the place/premises.. what a joke..

You mean your other tenant paid first BEFORE actually stepping into your place and view the unit?

TS is not a spoilt child, but you are being manipulative and taking advantage of people.

For a start, viewing your premise does not equate to booking it. Understand?

answer joe mamak la braderrr..

if TS don't want to take the room after viewing it will u return the deposit/

NO!!! YOU DUM DUM!!!

Upfront payment just to view, you gotta be kidding me.

omai. so hot in here.

I think he got this idea from car dealerships. THey have this concept of booking fee, but should you choose to cancel your booking, your booking fee shall be forfeited.

You a car salesman RO?

The issue isn't even about renting it. Its about VIEWING it first. You charge people to view it?

Besides, why should one trust you or the student? Just because those students are stupid enough to blindly rent without viewing it, doesn;t mean TS must follow.

How dimwitted can you go?

This post has been edited by happy4ever: Sep 2 2009, 03:13 AM

Will that RM480 be RETURNED if your potential tenant does NOT want to rent the place after VIEWING it?

she already alleged it was so much earlier on. and he is just keeping quiet only.

3 time tanya still not answering. sigh.

ok, he is definetely a car salesman...

the ts that renting out the house to you is wrong . how can he do that ? they have the rights to inspect

nope, i can even test drive a mazda rx8 without paying any shyt

ooohh.. now one more time.. joe_mamak.. ask him .. hehe..

still beating around the bush.

Your terms are unreasonable, the TS's personality has no bearing on this. SHE has a right to protect HER OWN INTERESTS as well, and that means viewing the premises advertised before deciding whether she'd want to rent the place from you. Even condos and houses have model units for showing potential buyers.

Your terms put the potential tenant at an unfair disadvantage, and forces them to accept or lose RM480. How about YOU pay HER RM480 as 'deposit' to view your premises since you are so confident about your premises? And if she dun like your premises, your deposit is forfeit? Does that sound fair to you? No? Well those are how your terms look to her.

well, ignorance is bliss..

Cannot view first then only pay if wanna book?

Even though the deposit will be returned, will the fully amount returned by that time or got 7 days working days to process request or with deduction in administration/service/hidden/etc fees?

Look, to view the place is one thing. You don't charge people to view it.

Once when they say 'OK', their words are not officiated unless a deposit has been made, of which in between others can rent it too.
So the normal procedure is to let the prospect view it first, once they agree to rent, a deposit is made, and remainder paid on the day they move in.

Simple, isn't it?

BUT, in your case, you already demand a deposit BEFORE the person gets a chance to step into your premise and view it. Now this is ridiculous!

viewing the place is the whole point. any payments to you should only taken place after that. what if the viewer doesnt like the place? is that not a hassle of re-banking in their RM480? wouldnt it be much easier to demand for payments if they have decided to rent the place?