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fishnetwenyi
post Jan 21 2010, 01:05 PM

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QUOTE(flamelye @ Jan 21 2010, 08:20 AM)
I am currently studying matriculation and am I eligible to apply for HKU? can you give me your e-mail as I want to know further about this if possible =]

During your badge, How many Malaysians did apply for MBBS in HKU, how many gotten the interview and finally, how many got the place to study MBBS there?

Besides UK, aussie, india, russia etc, i think China is comming up what do you think? I had asked someone who's studying there, and they say the facilities are very good and that during thier third year, there are lecturers from the US teaching them, so I think that China shold be considered by MMC.

I was just wondering why MMC recognises country such as UAE, Egypt etc, but Singapore doesn't? And why Singapore recognises China but Malaysia doesnt? Isn't that so politically motivated?  hmm.gif
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I am not sure if HKU recognises the matriculation qualification (not many overseas uni do actually) but it's worth a try i guess. i'll pm you my e-mail in a while.

China is 'coming up' but even HK doesn't really recognise a lot of the Chinese doctor grads (according to my HK friends la, i'm not too sure myself, though the fact that Msia doesn't recognise a lot of the unis there seem to indicate this as well). Plus I don't think all the unis are the same when it comes to China. The more 'popular' universities might be the ones with the better facilities etc etc so it depends on which university you're applying to and not the country as a whole. =/

In my batch, I don't know how many applications they received but I heard the admin quote a very vague 'hundreds of applicants'. 12 people were selected for the interview I went for. Amongst the 12, 11 were Malaysians. 2 got the offer, 1 rejected the offer for ASEAN and so, they gave his offer to a waitlisted applicant. In total, 3 offers were made, 2 accepted the offer.

That's because they send many students to study in said countries and many students themselves go to these countries for medic so it'll be kind of ironic to have many Malaysians studying medic there only to not be allowed to come back and work in the country. It's probably a trend thing. Singapore is not Malaysia. Haven't heard of many Singaporeans going to Egypt to study medic. O_o China probably.

Ah well. Everybody wants to be doctor. The country needs doctors. It'll only hurt both the gov and country if they deny these students the right to come back and work for the country anyway. Unless they provide enough affordable medical schools to produce enough doctors for the country. Or else I don't see why they should impose a restriction. Or they can have more stringent licensing exams. Whatever it is, I think it all boils down to meeting to demand for doctors and making people happy because their kids can now study medic practically anywhere and not worry abt whether they can play doctor back home.
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post Jan 22 2010, 03:04 PM

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Flamelye, if your matriculation means "Program Matrikulasi", I don't think you can apply for HKU Medicine. Matrikulasi is only recognized only in Malaysia. Even Singapore does not recognize matrikulasi. Either A-levels or STPM.
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post Jan 25 2010, 03:05 PM

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hmmm
anyone tried get a baclelor degree > mbbs?
many uni now only having a graduate entry medical program..
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post Jan 26 2010, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(celion @ Jan 25 2010, 03:05 PM)
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anyone tried get a baclelor degree > mbbs?
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It can be done in Malaysia, depending upon the type of Bachelors degree...

however... one will have to do the 5-years program as any other STPM/Matric/Foundation/Diploma applicants....

QUOTE(celion @ Jan 25 2010, 03:05 PM)
many uni now only having a graduate entry medical program..
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If you mean graduate entry = Graduate and then enter the 5-years medical program in IPTS in Malaysia, then almost ALL of them accept Degree holders.

but if you mean the 4-years Graduate Entry Medicine program... you won't find it in Malaysia... abroad... YES.
the nearest being DUKE-NUS Graduate medical program:

http://www.duke-nus.edu.sg/web/admission_summary.htm




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post Jan 26 2010, 01:37 PM

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hm i mean the duke/nus type of graduate entry..
anyone did actually took that path?
i wan to know the pros and cons compared to undergradute program
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post Jan 26 2010, 06:45 PM

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Hello!

Sem 2 from IMU =)
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post Jan 26 2010, 06:57 PM

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QUOTE(celion @ Jan 26 2010, 01:37 PM)
hm i mean the duke/nus type of graduate entry..
anyone did actually took that path?
i wan to know the pros and cons compared to undergradute program
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I quote the following research regarding this matter from Biomedcentral.com, please read it throughly, it will give you some insight to Graduate entry medicine:


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Graduate entry to medicine: widening psychological diversity

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Here is the full research paper: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1472-6920/9/67



and here is another useful article: LIFE IN THE FAST LANE: GRADUATE ENTRY TO MEDICINE (CLICK)

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post Jan 26 2010, 07:18 PM

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Most of the group of 8 in Aus are changing to graduate entry. Think UWA will be doing that soon (well, we heard news of that happening next year but not sure yet).

In Aus, you'll needa go through GAMSAT, an interview, and you'll need to ace your first degree. =) I'm not sure but people tell me that it's harder to get in the MBBS program using graduate entry compared to direct entry, unless of course the uni doesn't provide a direct entry (from year 12/Alvl etc).

I remembered them telling me that a lot of students who opted to go into medicine after their year 12, gave up or just can't follow up with the course. So, the uni is changing towards graduate entry medicine because they feel that graduates are more mature and they know what they want in life.

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post Jan 26 2010, 08:45 PM

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latest news i got from a yr5 med student...the MMC fellow said that there was 600 registered for doc in 07,2000 in 08, 3500 in 09 and they predict there will be 4500 in 10. so, with monash,newcastle,taylors,utar,aimst med students yet to come out... any comments for those who want to be doc??
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QUOTE(manking91 @ Jan 26 2010, 08:45 PM)
latest news i got from a yr5 med student...the MMC fellow said that there was 600 registered for doc in 07,2000 in 08, 3500 in 09 and they predict there will be 4500 in 10. so, with monash,newcastle,taylors,utar,aimst med students yet to come out... any comments for those who want to be doc??
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Nope, I stand by my decision of being a doctor. I got my own reasons and stories. And for the alarming rise of number of doctors, I'll just have to work harder and do my part. =) btw, you missed UCSI, 1st batch coming out this July.
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QUOTE(manking91 @ Jan 26 2010, 08:45 PM)
latest news i got from a yr5 med student...the MMC fellow said that there was 600 registered for doc in 07,2000 in 08, 3500 in 09 and they predict there will be 4500 in 10. so, with monash,newcastle,taylors,utar,aimst med students yet to come out... any comments for those who want to be doc??
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these have relatively small intakes, less than 100 per uni, except for aimst, with 200/year.....the REAL numbers comes (and will continue to come) from russia and ukraine........about 1000+/year for the next few years.......with current intake, that will continue for the foreseeable future, unless msia stop recognition...........

there is absolutely NO control over who and how many become doctors in msia at the moment.........it is a free for all........
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jan 26 2010, 09:04 PM)
these have relatively small intakes, less than 100 per uni, except for aimst, with 200/year.....the REAL numbers comes (and will continue to come) from russia and ukraine........about 1000+/year for the next few years.......with current intake, that will continue for the foreseeable future, unless msia stop recognition...........

there is absolutely NO control over who and how many become doctors in msia at the moment.........it is a free for all........
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Soon, gov hospital will be packed with housemen, with some MOs and few specialists. I foresee the health care system to collapse in the near future.
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post Jan 27 2010, 12:07 PM

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QUOTE(hypermax @ Jan 27 2010, 01:11 AM)
Soon, gov hospital will be packed with housemen, with some MOs and few specialists. I foresee the health care system to collapse in the near future.
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And the time it starts to collapse will be around the time i graduate. FML
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post Jan 27 2010, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(hypermax @ Jan 27 2010, 01:11 AM)
Soon, gov hospital will be packed with housemen, with some MOs and few specialists. I foresee the health care system to collapse in the near future.
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Then send them to the rural areas of Sabah and Sarawak weather they like it or not.
That should reduce the doctor imbalance between rural and urban areas and between peninsular and east Malaysia.
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post Jan 27 2010, 03:55 PM

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hello, 3rd year med student from usm. smile.gif
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post Jan 27 2010, 08:38 PM

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i also heard there are only anumber of 38 hospital for those housemen to selct from but then it was found that 7 of them are already full... we currently haf 48000 docs in malysia serving 28million of rakyat... and the ratio is 1:590....anyone knows what's the best ratio?? and also... what's ur advice for me...a student who may take med and graduated 5 yrs from now??
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post Jan 27 2010, 09:22 PM

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See this.



http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?f...2105&sec=nation
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post Jan 27 2010, 09:29 PM

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4th year PMC student reporting in

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post Jan 29 2010, 07:16 AM

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do u guys think with all the diz news circuilating less ppl will take mdcine? on the coming years dat is
and we end up wit da same 'doc shortage' prob....

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post Jan 29 2010, 09:44 AM

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obviously majority of those who join the bandwagon don't do much researches... only 2 out of ten of my friends who are goin to take med haf real great detail how the situation is now....in addition to that...when i talked about how bad the situation is to one of my less informative friend who wants to be a doc....he just said...o~ it's alright...i'll be a great doc... so what do u think??

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