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zltan
post Sep 4 2009, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 4 2009, 11:14 AM)
onelove went to trinity foundation in melbourne, i remember 2 years ago, in his naivety, he was very sure he was going to do medicine at u melb.....smile.gif

actually imu recognises trinity foundation, but they have a marking system different from the year12 ter system, and imu deem his results inadequate for entry......

this highlights a problem i have always warned potential foundation students......other unis may not recognise (or may not give as much weightage to) other foundation programmes.......it is still best to do generic pre-u programmes, like a-levels, sam/ausmat, ib, even stpm........and i now conclude that unless you are very sure you want to go to oz, a-levels is the best pre-u programme, gets you into all the commonwealth countries.........
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Actually, I think he did his foundation last year, which means that going to trinity wouldn't make sense (melbourne model)

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post Sep 4 2009, 11:32 AM

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QUOTE(zltan @ Sep 4 2009, 11:27 AM)
Actually, I think he went to WA for his foundation.

Melbourne Uni does not offer direct entry to medicine, and he did his foundation last year (I think)
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my bad, yes you are right, i think i confused him with you!

i believe onelove did an fy in Perth.......was it canning?....

the point about using fy to get into critical courses like medicine stands......
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post Sep 4 2009, 01:44 PM

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To cybersetan:

lai let me guess

1. sinus rhythm with monofocal premature ventricular contraction gua..
2. woohoo it looks cool but i dont know whats that it's glowing haha
3. it looks like an amputation. er... above MTP amputation? indication is gangrenous toe/patient's sick!
4. placenta

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post Sep 5 2009, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 4 2009, 11:32 AM)
my bad, yes you are right, i think i confused him with you!

i believe onelove did an fy in Perth.......was it canning?....

the point about using fy to get into critical courses like medicine stands......
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sorry i din see the posts till now =/ I was taking FY in Taylors College in Perth. This FY is specifically for UWA so it's not the more general and widely accepted FY offered by Canning College. Some differences by the FY offered by my college, and the FY in Canning. Made a wrong move back then, but oh well, can't do anything bout it, so mind as well just move on. =)
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2nd year student from alexandria university here.

ive been wondering, what is attachment exactly?
how do u, apply, for one, if its sumkind of extra class?
what document should i need for one?
any other related info is so much appreciated, thanks.
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post Sep 5 2009, 01:51 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Sep 3 2009, 11:59 PM)
Time for a break... lets make this interesting, here are somethings for you guys to analyze:

Q1: Comment on the ECG below.
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Q2: What is that I'm doing below? and what might the problem be?
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Q3: What has been done to the patient below? Name the procedure and common indications for the procedure.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Q4: What the hell is that?  laugh.gif
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ECG is ST depression right seen in stable angina?

2 never come acrossed it

3, gangre of the foot had to be amputated

4......yawn.gif
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post Sep 5 2009, 04:47 PM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Sep 3 2009, 11:59 PM)
Time for a break... lets make this interesting, here are somethings for you guys to analyze:

Q1: Comment on the ECG below.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Q2: What is that I'm doing below? and what might the problem be?
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Q3: What has been done to the patient below? Name the procedure and common indications for the procedure.
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

Q4: What the hell is that?  laugh.gif
» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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sad... my cvs facts have all gone out the window
1. mild MI?
2. no idea what's the procedure's name but i think it's to see if the growth is liquid filled or a mass? just guessing here. looks like it's some cystic growth on the head. ahahahaha
3. amputation of the feet, just below the toes? no idea what's the proper name. common indications would be gangrenous toes or massive ulceration of the toes (diabetes?)
4. placenta

QUOTE(zltan @ Sep 3 2009, 03:02 PM)
I have 12 hours this week. Beat that
12 hours of lectures? i only had to spend 10 hours in uni this week for lectures, pbls and clinical sessions. not that i'm ecstatic about my free time.. seems like a waste that we're paying so much but getting so little in return.
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QUOTE(monkeygirl @ Sep 5 2009, 04:47 PM)
12 hours of lectures? i only had to spend 10 hours in uni this week for lectures, pbls and clinical sessions. not that i'm ecstatic about my free time.. seems like a waste that we're paying so much but getting so little in return.
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Actually 6 hours of lectures, 4 hours PBL and 2 hours ICM

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QUOTE(monkeygirl @ Sep 5 2009, 04:47 PM)
seems like a waste that we're paying so much but getting so little in return.
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Welcome to medical school... where they teach you virtually nothing despite paying the highest fees. You're supposed to learn stuff on your own, and by that I mean stumble and crash your way through the hospital and getting into other people's ways during clinical years, not just mug through tons of books.

QUOTE(zltan @ Sep 5 2009, 04:51 PM)
Actually 6 hours of lectures, 4 hours PBL and 2 hours ICM
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Those were the days... tongue.gif
Got free time then cabut to Baretto's lol...

as for the questions that cybersetan posted...
1. ventricular ectopic beats
2. dunno.... my first thought would be scalp lipoma but they aren't exactly transilluminable eh?
3. metatarsal-phalangeal amputation of foot due to gangerene... an endocrine consultant once told me that he prefered a full Symes as it's easier to fit a prosthetic foot... MTP renders the foot useless for weight bearing and impedes prothesis fitting later on.
4. placenta... too easy biggrin.gif the placenta is probably one of the ugliest yuckiest organs you'll ever see

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post Sep 6 2009, 10:23 PM

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good news my friends

Internships edge foreign doctors out
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some revamp of the housejobs will be done.......while number of places in med schools have increased 50%, the number of housejobs have not increased correspondingly.......this knock-on effect will be most felt in 2012 when several new med schools churns out their new graduates.......therefore within the next few years, this will be adjusted accordingly.......

if the numbers fail to match the graduating numbers, this will not be the first time australia turned away foreign aussie trained doctors.......this happened in the early 90's when oz was in a recession......all foreigners had to leave......
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Sep 6 2009, 03:37 PM)
You're supposed to learn stuff on your own, and by that I mean stumble and crash your way through the hospital and getting into other people's ways during clinical years, not just mug through tons of books.

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hahaha... just spent 2 weeks getting in people's way during my electives. and i'll be doing more of that in the near future
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QUOTE(chika138 @ Sep 6 2009, 10:23 PM)
Hardly surprising news as this was always a matter of "when" and not "if", no thanks to all the new and upcoming medical universities like Bond, Deakin etc. These additional number of graduates will saturate the allocation spots for interns, yet Australia still requires many more personnel particularly in sub-urban and rural areas - hence they are still spending money recruiting IMGs as mentioned below:
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"Having invested in them and trained them, we send them away and then we spend more money recruiting people from overseas," Ms Fulde said.


The excuse of lacking funds and resources for training is somewhat dodgy and will spark further debates, especially since international students pay 5-10 times more. Then again, these funds are mainly paid to universities rather than directly channeled into hospitals and medical institutions so the latter may actually lack the capacity to accommodate the rising number of students and graduates.

Victoria is still comparatively easy to get an internship position compared to other states, as most of us are able to be matched in the first round offers whereas students in other states usually have to wait for 2nd or even 3rd, 4rd rounds for fight for scraps. Having said that, most of my friends from other states still managed to secure a position after the 2nd round. I guess it's a trade-off - Vic's pay is the least !!
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post Sep 7 2009, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Sep 7 2009, 05:28 AM)
Victoria is still comparatively easy to get an internship position compared to other states, as most of us are able to be matched in the first round offers whereas students in other states usually have to wait for 2nd or even 3rd, 4rd rounds for fight for scraps. Having said that, most of my friends from other states still managed to secure a position after the 2nd round. I guess it's a trade-off - Vic's pay is the least !!
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Yes, I have to agree the punch would be felt most in QLD, WA and NSW.

Vic has only 1 additional med school (Deakin) compared to other states

http://www.health.vic.gov.au/workforce/?a=305847

They are planning to increase funding for medical internship places (456 in 2008 to 690 in 2012) to accommodate the growth of medical students.

This does not include the plans to incorporate private hospitals and GPs to accept interns.

That being said, I still have my doubts as to the possibility of me getting an internship place in 2014.
I'm just hoping that:
(a) They would rather pick Melb Uni grads over the rest
(b) Internship places would have increased even more by 2014
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QUOTE(StarGhazzer @ Sep 7 2009, 08:28 AM)
Hardly surprising news as this was always a matter of "when" and not "if", no thanks to all the new and upcoming medical universities like Bond, Deakin etc. These additional number of graduates will saturate the allocation spots for interns, yet Australia still requires many more personnel particularly in sub-urban and rural areas - hence they are still spending money recruiting IMGs as mentioned below:
The excuse of lacking funds and resources for training is somewhat dodgy and will spark further debates, especially since international students pay 5-10 times more. Then again, these funds are mainly paid to universities rather than directly channeled into hospitals and medical institutions so the latter may actually lack the capacity to accommodate the rising number of students and graduates.

Victoria is still comparatively easy to get an internship position compared to other states, as most of us are able to be matched in the first round offers whereas students in other states usually have to wait for 2nd or even 3rd, 4rd rounds for fight for scraps. Having said that, most of my friends from other states still managed to secure a position after the 2nd round. I guess it's a trade-off - Vic's pay is the least !!
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post Sep 7 2009, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(zltan @ Sep 7 2009, 11:26 AM)
Yes, I have to agree the punch would be felt most in QLD, WA and NSW.

Vic has only 1 additional med school (Deakin) compared to other states

http://www.health.vic.gov.au/workforce/?a=305847

They are planning to increase funding for medical internship places (456 in 2008 to 690 in 2012) to accommodate the growth of medical students.

This does not include the plans to incorporate private hospitals and GPs to accept interns.

That being said, I still have my doubts as to the possibility of me getting an internship place in 2014.
I'm just hoping that:
(a) They would rather pick Melb Uni grads over the rest
(b) Internship places would have increased even more by 2014
© A miracle happens and I get a PR
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this is alarming actually, thought australia really needs doctors. hmm too late to become a dentist now haha rolleyes.gif

yeah hope the places pick up even more by 2014, i grad same time as you right zltan (2013)?

go marry a local and get your citizenship!! thumbup.gif


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post Sep 7 2009, 07:50 PM

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everyone here is looking to practice oversea?
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nobody pays rm700+k in fees so they can come back to work for rm3k/mth...........unless they have no choice........
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Sep 7 2009, 08:15 PM)
nobody pays rm700+k in fees so they can come back to work for rm3k/mth...........unless they have no choice........
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at least come back only after completing specialization
that's what in my plan
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as a jpa scholar, you will, and should return to serve your bond on graduation........otherwise don't take the scholarship you can't commit to the bond.......

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