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post Feb 9 2012, 05:10 PM

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QUOTE(confirm @ Feb 9 2012, 04:52 PM)
Cardiff has yet to put up their 12/13  fees for international students hence likely they will follow Aberdeen. The UK unis are surely watching the Aussie unis. which start in Feb before they finalise their fees for their Sept 12 intake.
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Is it possible to give us the link on the Aberdeen fees?
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post Feb 9 2012, 08:21 PM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Feb 9 2012, 05:15 PM)
Look up thread, already posted
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Fair enough. The post was in July 2011 and they hv given 1 year's notice.
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post Feb 9 2012, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Feb 9 2012, 10:06 PM)
Anyone knows whats the enrollment number for Monash Sunway this year? zstan mentioned in the pharm thread that the upcoming batch has fewer students than last year.. wonder if it's the same for the MBBS group.
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Closing of acceptance tomorrow. Interviews still going on and quite surprised if they don't come close to the number.
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post Feb 9 2012, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 9 2012, 10:45 PM)
From the business point of view, is this an indication that supply of mbbs seats by Monash Sunway exceeds its demand ?

Time to cut tuition fees ......  ohmy.gif
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Yet to understand how the intake really works here. Since the interviews started mid of last year, there have been a fair bit of rejections but somehow they still cater for "last minutes". For "smart" students, they will find a way for you!
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post Feb 10 2012, 07:25 AM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Feb 9 2012, 11:34 PM)
The majority of malaysians have not evolved to that level yet. wink.gif
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Med scholarships overseas are running dry since the last one to two years since Perdana n Numed came onto the scene as most, if not all the students are gomen sponsored. The issue of scholarships holders defaulting is due to the poor enforcement.
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QUOTE(zeng @ Feb 10 2012, 02:03 PM)
Questionable political leadership or bloated civil service ....... is the cause of poor enforcement ?? vmad.gif
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When you get "cows", you feel bad taking action against these "poor" ppl. I don't see a likelihood of overseas med scholarships this year as Ipts scholarships are also restricted to just 3, all Glc-owned.
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post Feb 11 2012, 04:42 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Feb 11 2012, 04:29 PM)
Had a chat with a senior lecturer @ Monash Sunway just now.

The amount of students per intake is apparently only 130 now.
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I dont think its lack of students, rather some space for last minute smarties n the waiting list. Wish you a good time in PD.
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post Feb 11 2012, 07:49 PM

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QUOTE(DarkNite @ Feb 11 2012, 06:51 PM)
...which may explain why USCI is 'closed' to others.
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Heard abt one lucky person, if you can call that!


Added on February 11, 2012, 7:53 pm
QUOTE(Syd G @ Feb 11 2012, 06:34 PM)
No PD for me as I'm still waiting for answer from MARA sad.gif. Can still jump in before class starts on the 27th...
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Wish you good luck. Najib said something on an allocation of RM500 million for Bumi students to go professional.

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post Feb 17 2012, 02:53 PM

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A fren was informed that his application to a UK university for medic was put on hold (presumably waiting list). What are the chances of securing a place. Is there a need to pay the one semester fees over here if the dateline for acceptance here is at the end of the month?

Either you save that Proton Saga or you got to let it go!
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post Feb 21 2012, 08:27 AM

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QUOTE(podrunner @ Feb 20 2012, 11:14 PM)
cckkpr, what do you think of this? This is from the Foundation Programme (FP) website:

"Fulfilment of the eligibility criteria gives applicants the right to go through the national Foundation Programme application process. It does not guarantee appointment to a foundation training place."

So there are no guarantees of internships in the UK as well, seeing that the FP was oversubscribed last year, and this year, and they expect similar trend to continue next few years.
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Need to check on this.

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post Feb 21 2012, 10:39 AM

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Just a little off topic. Sometimes too much negative comments create a bad perception. Looking at the recent Mahsa advert on their nursing grads gives the impression that the quality is commendable given that many of them are employed overseas including sg n mid east. This is in contrast to those highlighted that many are unemployed. Maybe quality makes the difference. I am not saying Mahsa is good, just that the advert has proven a pt or two.
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Feb 21 2012, 11:16 AM)
Some optimism for UK grads here:

http://www.hospitaldr.co.uk/blogs/tag/foundation-years

At least they are seen to be pushing for preference for UK grads, ahead of IMGs,  via the application process.


Added on February 21, 2012, 1:52 pm

There's about 10 Malaysians among the international MBBS freshies in Clayton, including the top student from Sunway Taylor's SAM program. There's also one JPA scholar, 5 MUFY (onshore) students, one VCE Yr 12. Students from Singapore make up nearly 30 apparently. O week sounds like a carnival!
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Thanks for the info.

Hope that priority still be given to UK grads. The diff is still not that great between supply and demand and we never know 5 years down the road. But I read somewhere that incoming or existing med students will STILL be given places.

Maybe later on when the supply exceeds demand and cant be cope, they would give notice, one year in advance to intending students. Just like Aberdeen gave one year notice on the increase in fees for the pre-clinical.
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Feb 21 2012, 02:45 PM)
Can you point me to that article please? Supply has already exceeded demand, but the supply at the moment comprise of ALL uk and non uk grads, as the FP is a prerequisite for GMC registration. Note that the FP is independent of universities offering medicine. And if Australia is any measure at all, the offer letter actually tells you that internships are not guaranteed. Is FP mentioned at all, in your relative's offer letter? Thanks!
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Still pending one more decision from a university and thereafter UCAS only can process. The Glasgow secured offer will come after payment of 1,000 pounds which would be soon.
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QUOTE(podrunner @ Feb 21 2012, 04:00 PM)
Do you mean the offer is actually in UCAS track, and no physical documents sighted at this stage?
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There is a conditional offer in writing sent by courier earlier and the A levels results given to them. Upon confirmation with UCAS and the payment, the unconditional offer will come.
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post Feb 21 2012, 06:18 PM

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QUOTE(zstan @ Feb 21 2012, 05:47 PM)
wah less than 105. Pharmacy 41. 5 guys only. lolz.
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Sign of the times or wat? With so many med colleges offering foundation programmes, a bit surprised to be a drop in the students intake with increasing number of students signing up for pre-u courses each year.
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Feb 21 2012, 06:04 PM)
Btw for those who think that there's no difference between MBBS (Monash) Sunway and Australia, in MMC record the qualification is registered as

"MONASH UNIVERSITY, VICTORIA, AUSTRALIA"

or

"MONASH UNIVERSITY SUNWAY CAMPUS, TAN SRI JEFFREY CHEAH SCHOOL OF MEDICINE"

who says no difference? wink.gif
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What MMC puts in doesn't really matter much. Its more important to get the recognition by SMC, if possible.
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QUOTE(limeuu @ Feb 22 2012, 12:55 AM)
sunway and taylor's are completely different establishments.......

many jpa/mara scholars earmarked for australia do NOT get places and end up elsewhere.....


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singaporeans (including non singaporeans who studied in spore) make about half of internationals in utas.....several with multiple offers, but choose to take utas for cost reasons......
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I thought JPA n Mara are allocated fixed no of places n the best of the lot took up the places.
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post Feb 22 2012, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(Huskies @ Feb 22 2012, 09:31 AM)
As far as I know, the only international students from my university who ever failed med are government scholars, and the ones who did not fail never return to Malaysia.
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limeuu was referrring to scholars who did not manage to secure entrance places in oz unis.
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Feb 21 2012, 05:31 PM)
Med student less than 105 this year.

Psychology around 30, Pharmacy around.. 40-ish?
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How many med students were from MUFY this year? And I believe the number of JPA students has also been drastically reduced; last year was abt 40+, I think. Perdana students mostly gomen sponsored n some put into cheaper unis. Gomen austerity drive? Hope not - No Greece, please!
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QUOTE(Syd G @ Feb 22 2012, 11:12 AM)
I personally know less than 5. This is excluding seniors not in my batch, whom are most probably JPA scholars (July 2010 intake, mine was Jan/March 2011 intake). All the MUFY students I know are self-sponsored.

Limeuu was right on the 'bottom of the barrel' statement. Met someone with borderline MUFY score, borderline IELTS, borderline interview and less than 20% ISAT sweat.gif
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Last year's intake has about 30 to 40 students from MUFY and quite a number are JPA sponsored.

Where does the majority come from? STPM should be just a handful; A levels, SAM, Ausmat etc? I know a few who are from A levels and did not manage to secure places in UK.


Added on February 22, 2012, 2:50 pm
QUOTE(podrunner @ Feb 22 2012, 11:43 AM)
Let's hope said student realize a chance has been given, and get act together.

As far as Monash Sunway is concerned though, should scraping of barrel continue, th school may eventually be renamed Sunway University's Jeffery Cheah School of Medicine. The disparity of standards between the Sunway and Clayton campus, must be within acceptable limits. This would be the reasonable expectation.
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It is not so much of a drop in standards, the syallbus is the same and they sit for the same exams and markings are moderated. (Its the same for law and accountancy exams; for those Malaysian students who sit for the same exams as their UK counterparts, there should not be much difference and you would actually see Malaysian students among the price winners on a regular basis! We treat exams more seriously than most others.) Its the unfortunate thing for these borderline cases who will have problems even getting past Year 1!

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