Why must you try to double guess them?.....if they tell you they will let you know, they will let you know lah....

you will NEVER get an offer on the spot after an interview.....if you do, the interview is a scam, and of no relevance to the selection process.....

in these situation, the interview is NOT part of the selection process, but maybe to ascertain ability to pay, and make an offer, the decisions to offer is obviously made before hand, subject to confirmation of financial standing.

in REAL interviews, which is used in the selection process, it is semi structured, standardised, uniform for all, and graded. it will contribute to a overall marking system, which includes one or more of other components like results of tests (isat/umat/ukcat/bmat/etc), personal statements, references from existing teacher/tutor, pre-u results.......if they do NOT use interviews for selection (eg utas) they will NOT conduct it....

as can be obviously seen, offers CANNOT be made at the end of the interview, if it really is used to determine selection......as final selection can only be made when all information from all applicants are available....

If you can choose between doing a 5 yr undergrad medical course in either Australia (one of the Go8) or UK, (one of the russell group), which will you choose, under present known circumstances? What are the pertinent pros and cons?

dear medical friends,

what does per pt and chase blood means?

Full context:

1. Pt claims hit on L side. Landed on ground then head. Per pt. Denies Loc.

2. Plan: NBM, IVF, chase bloods

thank you for your help

Uruguay? Ukraine?

Btw 4 years for housemanship?

I wouldn't be surprised if Australia closes its door to foreign doctors in the near future (a la 80s and early 90s). The medical student numbers here have quadrupled in less than 5 years, and I doubt the Commonwealth government would ever risk the fiasco of unemployed domestic medical graduates.

On another note, it seems that Australia is revamping its skilled migration system again - Skillselect

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-edu...x-1226323204316

"For example, accounting is on the official skilled occupation list, but would be subject to a movable ceiling.

"So even if accounting remains on the list there is no guarantee that the applicant will get a place," Dr Birrell said.
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"The immigration department will take the best candidates, presumably based on points."

The points test emphasises English proficiency, high-level qualifications and work experience. The new ceilings will apply to points-tested visas, such as the independent skilled migrant category, which was heavily favoured by overseas students.

Before policy was tightened, large numbers of students with a narrow range of occupations -- notably commercial cookery, accountancy and hairdressing -- won visas.

It was relatively easy for students to parlay quick and cheap courses into permanent residency without obvious improvement in designated skill shortages."

Death kneel for Aussie business schools?

i can assure you bosses are NEVER abusive to junior doctors who are competent and hardworking....after all, they are the ones who basically run the service....consultants LOVE them.....really....they can leave early for their golf without fear people will start dying....

From youngyew in recom.com thread "choosing a good medical school" : -

"The notion of the "best" doctor is a vague one. Medicine is such a huge and varied field nowadays, there's no one who knows how to do everything under the sun. The regular general practitioners in the clinic probably do not know the appearance of a brain tumor under the microscope, but the top brain surgeons probably don't remember the dosage of antibiotics for a urinary tract infection.

As pointed out by a few people here, there are some basic characters, knowledge and skills that all doctors should have. All freshly graduated doctors should know how to approach and initiate basic management for patients presenting with a chest pain. All doctors should know how to put in an intravenous drip or take bloods. All doctors should know that when a patient suddenly has difficulty speaking and have a one-sided weakness, that person has a stroke. All doctors should know how to do CPR.

Unfortunately, we have heard so many cases of "doctors" failing these simple tests. This is commonly attributed to studying in institutions where teaching culture is not strong, and hospital exposure during medical student years are non-existent. It doesn't take universities and hospitals with world-leading researchers to let you hone your skills inserting intravenous drips, and to teach you how to approach patients with a chest pain. It takes medical schools with proper structured, supportive teaching and uncompromised assessment system to make a safe and competent junior doctor.

Big and famous universities probably do not produce much better doctors than medium and modest universities. Yes one can always be assured of a certain level of teaching quality when it comes to "famous" universities, as they are usually well-funded, closely scrutinized, and inherit a time-tested tradition of excellence. Because of the positive-feedback effect (a good university attracts good students, good students make a university even better, and so on), students in a famous university will be surrounded by peers with strong academic aptitude and learning drive. These are all merits of studying medicine in top universities.

However, smaller and less famous universities are not necessarily disadvantaged by the flip side of the same argument. If a university provides good teaching facility and resource, maintains a high level of integrity and does not compromise its admission and graduation standard for financial gains, it would still be able to produce very competent doctors on par with those from the bigger, more famous universities. In fact, many people find themselves enjoying the smaller, more personal teaching that is only available on the new, medium-sized medical schools.

One may ask, "What if you want to become a top brain surgeon? Don't you want to learn from the best top brain surgeons?" The answer to that is a more convincing "yes", but medical schools do not produce brain surgeons, they produce junior doctors. After one graduates from the medical school, the postgraduate career becomes less and less influenced by the medical school they went to as they progress in their career. When someone applies to enter a specialty training program, they will be judged more by the reference given by the previous senior doctors they worked with than which university they went to.

At the end of the day, when you are choosing a medical school, just go for an established medical school known for its reliability, quality and honesty. It doesn't really matter you go to UM, UKM, or USM (amongst others), as long as you are in a proper school, and you go through the process with the right attitude, you will become a competent doctor ready to embark on a wonderful career. Just don't go for universities with no teaching or no hospital exposures. "

Are you tracking all the UK medic offers?  

irish med schools have a long 'tradition' of being a medical degree mill....if you calculate the number of med schools against the population, you will note they are near msia level....

americans who failed to enter us med schools have for many years, been making a bee line to ireland med schools, and then after graduating and passing usmle step 2, gone back to us to work.....

jcu and uws are 5 year undergraduate entry programmes.....

but generally, it is easier to get into uk, than oz....

If still determined to study in UK, he can apply again for 2013. I suppose he can try all the Oz unis you have mentioned. Sit for the ISAT as soon as possible. The better options in Australia? Since money a non-issue, he can opt for grad entry at ANU, UMelb and USyd. But this would mean doing a course like BioMed first.

Academically speaking, it is easier to get into UK because as it has been established, it is much easier to get AAA than an ATAR of 99+. Interview wise Australian unis may be a bit more lenient as Australian unis tend to have a larger quota for international students.

Australian unis also don't require a personal statement, which has been known to either make or break an application with the UK universities.