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 Stock Market V37: Return of the Bull, Part V, Bull vs. Bear

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post Aug 17 2009, 11:30 PM

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Anyone mind to share why Bstead got attention of some sifus here ? Is it because:
1)the interim report is coming soon and possibility of dividend
2)the current rights issue pulled down the price
3)cheap (in terms of PE)
4)the bstead-or mentioned by lklatmy (is it a warrant ?)
5)other reason...

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 17 2009, 11:21 PM)
No Land/Construction/Infra-structure related counters?
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Construction is a dangerous area to be in particularly in Malaysia, as it is more political linked, contract awarded etc issue are highly depended on political decision. While some company exist just based on favourism of the political decision, not surviving and competiting in the market on its own.

Not to say all construction is bad, just highlight the risk of it.

Over the long term, it is always those consumer related, hard asset related (including plantation) are the one that actually give good return rate in term of dividend besides the capital appreciation side. Finance can be dangerous as well, must pick the one really good one, as finance company as shown in lastest finance crisis can be vulnerable to any fallout in economy. A surge of NPL can bring down the 100 years old finance company overnight.

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post Aug 17 2009, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 17 2009, 11:30 PM)
Anyone mind to share why Bstead got attention of some sifus here ? Is it because:
1)the interim report is coming soon and possibility of dividend
2)the current rights issue pulled down the price
3)cheap (in terms of PE)
4)the bstead-or mentioned by lklatmy (is it a warrant ?)
5)other reason...

thank you  wub.gif  brows.gif
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I like Bstead bcoz it's my second lover and mainly because it is giving good div + with the current price (I sold at RM4.5, bought at Rm1.5), I think it will not fall back to the first time when I bought. Not sure about others.
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post Aug 17 2009, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 17 2009, 11:30 PM)
Construction is a dangerous area to be in particularly in Malaysia, as it is more political linked, contract awarded etc issue are highly depended on political decision. While some company exist just based on favourism of the political decision, not surviving and competiting in the market on its own.

Not to say all construction is bad, just highlight the risk of it.

Over the long term, it is always those consumer related, hard asset related (including plantation) are the one that actually give good return rate in term of dividend besides the capital appreciation side. Finance can be dangerous as well, must pick the one really good one, as finance company as shown in lastest finance crisis can be vulnerable to any fallout in economy. A surge of NPL can bring down the 100 years old finance company overnight.
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Very interesting insights. rclxms.gif
Thank you....
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post Aug 17 2009, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 17 2009, 11:30 PM)
Construction is a dangerous area to be in particularly in Malaysia, as it is more political linked, contract awarded etc issue are highly depended on political decision. While some company exist just based on favourism of the political decision, not surviving and competiting in the market on its own.

Not to say all construction is bad, just highlight the risk of it.

Over the long term, it is always those consumer related, hard asset related (including plantation) are the one that actually give good return rate in term of dividend besides the capital appreciation side. Finance can be dangerous as well, must pick the one really good one, as finance company as shown in lastest finance crisis can be vulnerable to any fallout in economy. A surge of NPL can bring down the 100 years old finance company overnight.
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I'm not that into construction, but for financial counters, I believe some still worth to buy with the div yield as bonus while waiting for the Bull to return. Plantation is a sure thing biggrin.gif
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post Aug 17 2009, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 17 2009, 11:32 PM)
I like Bstead bcoz it's my second lover and mainly because it is giving good div + with the current price (I sold at RM4.5, bought at Rm1.5), I think it will not fall back to the first time when I bought. Not sure about others.
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it's just that right now, Bstead's looking cheap after the rights issue. still deciding whether plantation or construction. rclxub.gif

ops i quote the wrong one.

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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Aug 17 2009, 11:34 PM)
it's just that right now, Bstead's looking cheap after the rights issue. still deciding whether plantation or construction.  rclxub.gif

ops i quote the wrong one.
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Cherroy already provide some insights smile.gif
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post Aug 17 2009, 11:36 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 17 2009, 11:35 PM)
Cherroy already provide some insights smile.gif
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but I still like WCT. love it to bits wub.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 17 2009, 11:30 PM)
Over the long term, it is always those consumer related, hard asset related (including plantation) are the one that actually give good return rate in term of dividend besides the capital appreciation side.
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Is hard asset related includes properties??

Btw today is a nightmare to me as I play contra with LionInd and didn't manage to sell it on Friday doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif doh.gif

KNM n Scomi just plain sucks cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(kroegand @ Aug 17 2009, 11:36 PM)
Is hard asset related includes properties??

Btw today is a nightmare to me as I play contra with LionInd and didn't manage to sell it on Friday  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

KNM n Scomi just plain sucks  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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If you think now is sux, wait later when you see tomolo. Your heart will jump out
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QUOTE(kroegand @ Aug 17 2009, 11:36 PM)
Is hard asset related includes properties??

Btw today is a nightmare to me as I play contra with LionInd and didn't manage to sell it on Friday  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif  doh.gif

KNM n Scomi just plain sucks  cry.gif  cry.gif  cry.gif
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haha it's ok, have confidence in your counters! laugh.gif i'm also stuck on KNM.
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QUOTE(teehk_tee @ Aug 17 2009, 11:36 PM)
but I still like WCT. love it to bits  wub.gif
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WCT is a great counter to hold...I got a stack of it sitting in the cupboard - for a rainy day brows.gif
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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 17 2009, 11:39 PM)
WCT is a great counter to hold...I got a stack of it sitting in the cupboard - for a rainy day brows.gif
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hehe, with this recent downtrend, WCT's in my shopping cart already. tongue.gif
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post Aug 17 2009, 11:40 PM

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DJ rebounding

Opening price was -1.8%

Now is -1.79%

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post Aug 17 2009, 11:41 PM

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thanks for all the feedback...

Bstead's 1st quarter earning droped significantly though, from usual 20+ cents to 9cents... not being pessimist but i think this year's PER and Div may be affected...

me choosing a plantation stock too, so far BKawan and Bstead seems quite good.
Lembaga Tabung Angkatan Tentera is the major shareholder of Bstead...

hope can squeeze enough money to buy some ... doh.gif
and need to set aside some for taiko Maxis...
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post Aug 17 2009, 11:42 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 17 2009, 11:38 PM)
If you think now is sux, wait later when you see tomolo. Your heart will jump out
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Plan to hibernate until Thursday and pray hard market bounce back tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
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post Aug 17 2009, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 17 2009, 11:41 PM)
thanks for all the feedback...

Bstead's 1st quarter earning droped significantly though, from usual 20+ cents to 9cents... not being pessimist but i think this year's PER and Div may be affected...

me choosing a plantation stock too, so far BKawan and Bstead seems quite good.
Lembaga Tabung Angkatan Tentera is the major shareholder of Bstead...

hope can squeeze enough money to buy some ...  doh.gif
and need to set aside some for taiko Maxis...
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Wonder what will happen to AXIATA if/when Maxis lists.... hmm.gif
Think we can forget about DIGi..... nod.gif
Dog counter anyway.....
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post Aug 17 2009, 11:44 PM

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QUOTE(debbieyss @ Aug 17 2009, 11:40 PM)
DJ rebounding
Opening price was -1.8%
Now is -1.79%
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if DJIA can crawl back to 2digit loss, i wonder if asia will be green tomorrow... hmm.gif
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post Aug 17 2009, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(kroegand @ Aug 17 2009, 11:42 PM)
Plan to hibernate until Thursday and pray hard market bounce back  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Don't worry - can hold for the long term... rclxms.gif
Also -better to wait and see.

I always think that those who try to "call" the market risk looking plain dumb when they are wrong and either lucky or smug if they are right..... icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Aug 17 2009, 11:47 PM

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Hope this correction shake those high dividend stock.

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