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 Stock Market V37: Return of the Bull, Part V, Bull vs. Bear

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zamans98
post Aug 10 2009, 08:02 PM

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WTF - all my counters either dead or down.

Supermax +30c
Adventa + 38c
Rubberex +27c
Latexx +20c


Added on August 10, 2009, 8:15 pmPELIKAN - watching n hoping this counter drop for correction, was happy to see market RED but monkeys managed to keep it GREEN.



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post Aug 10 2009, 08:17 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 10 2009, 08:02 PM)
WTF - all my counters either dead or down.

Supermax +30c
Adventa + 38c
Rubberex +27c
Latexx +20c


Added on August 10, 2009, 8:15 pmPELIKAN - watching n hoping this counter drop for correction, was happy to see market RED but monkeys managed to keep it GREEN.
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Alam din move?
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post Aug 10 2009, 09:26 PM

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QUOTE(jasontoh @ Aug 10 2009, 08:17 PM)
Alam din move?
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lelong already last week to get KNM..
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post Aug 10 2009, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 10 2009, 09:26 PM)
lelong already last week to get KNM..
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Now is KNM time to go sliding
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post Aug 10 2009, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 10 2009, 08:02 PM)


Added on August 10, 2009, 8:15 pmPELIKAN - watching n hoping this counter drop for correction, was happy to see market RED but monkeys managed to keep it GREEN.
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Notice that PELIKAN bull when market in RED.
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post Aug 10 2009, 10:27 PM

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post Aug 10 2009, 10:37 PM

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QUOTE(VyvernS @ Aug 10 2009, 04:51 PM)
Must be someone in Bursa really like feng shui.... tongue.gif

1188  rclxms.gif
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It's actually 1818, and yeah, I think they have booked the number for themselves, lol


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post Aug 10 2009, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Aug 10 2009, 10:37 PM)
It's actually 1818, and yeah, I think they have booked the number for themselves, lol
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what u think is actually right. Even Axiata booked the number. Cronies !

Bursa choose their own number.

Who gonna get 3888 or 8888? MAXIS?
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post Aug 10 2009, 11:08 PM

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Wah.....Freddie Mac now at $1.26

Salted fish swim again up 70.27%
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post Aug 10 2009, 11:14 PM

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Euro recovering from day low while US from opening low...
MM doing their best to shun red armies..

September is the worst month in history of US equities ?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=aK8qWUROcAn4

Uncle plans to go private soon sad.gif

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post Aug 10 2009, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(espree @ Aug 10 2009, 11:08 PM)
Wah.....Freddie Mac now at $1.26

Salted fish swim again up 70.27%
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the FRE rally started on AUG 4..
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post Aug 10 2009, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(nujikabane @ Aug 10 2009, 06:40 PM)
Guys, if a counter was given as dividend-in-specie, and a while later the counter declared dividend, will the shareholders who got it as
dividend-in-specie, get the dividend as well ?
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Generally, yes, you are become the shareholder of the other company as well as soon you receive the share dividend.

QUOTE(omores @ Aug 10 2009, 07:19 PM)
Anyone bought proton? In terms of price performance, it had jumped up faster (10%) than kinstel (8%), Sealink (cant remember) and definitely better than KNM (-5%). Can you believe it? Hahahahahahaha. Anyhow, these are the most recent stocks i bought, last week.

My old stocks still holding and going strong. Except BJTOTO that is.
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For short term trade, actually it is not fair to compare directly.

Just like Citi is the star performance in US because, rise more than 300% from the low, but most people lose money in this stock at least until now.
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post Aug 10 2009, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(chyaw @ Aug 10 2009, 05:15 PM)
From your past posts, you seems like mid term investor... Buy and sell within weeks... Is the the best way to earn money based on your experience (from yourself and clients)?  I'm just curious... Not saying your way is wrong or right...
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My Adventa has been with me for almost three years .Finally let go all today as I think the PE is getting to where it should be.

I normally don't go for short terms.If it so happen that the price spike to a level where I think it is already fully valued,I will sell.

I still holding some long term/not reach my selling level stocks,Ah Chuan,Bjtoto,BHIC,Bursa,CScenic and some SG shares,to name a few.Some have been with me for as long as I can remember.

Not to say that my strategy is the right way.There is no absolute right or long in this kind of decision,a right this month may turn out to be a big mistake three month down the road.a wrong today can turn out to be a big right in future.No need to look back and regret since you can't undo what is done.

I only buy stocks that are fundamentally sound.Goreng stocks seldom keep(except for my Cscenic which became long term by compulsion) rclxub.gif .

(This is all rubbish,don't believe a single word I said)
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 10 2009, 11:14 PM)
September is the worst month in history of US equities ?
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=206...id=aK8qWUROcAn4


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A lot of time, market crash around this time Sep or Oct.

Last year the big bear in multi-decade started and take control around September as well, which nosediving event start due to Lehman.
911.
1929 crash
1987 crash

The previous recession of 2002 also hit the low point during September

Don't know it is coincidence or not.

Don't mean to say Sep is a dangerous month, just it is the history of the market.

Edited, after I posted, I also found this is an interesting fact/history as well.

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post Aug 11 2009, 12:09 AM

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QUOTE(David_Brent @ Aug 10 2009, 07:59 PM)
That was the price it was when I bought it first time round..... brows.gif
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Haha me too at 41 cents. 2nd time around when it was 36 cents. Yummy at that price
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 10 2009, 11:53 PM)
A lot of time, market crash around this time Sep or Oct.

Last year the big bear in multi-decade started and take control around September as well, which nosediving event start due to Lehman.
911.
1929 crash
1987 crash

The previous recession of 2002 also hit the low point during September

Don't know it is coincidence or not. 

Don't mean to say Sep is a dangerous month, just it is the history of the market.

Edited, after I posted, I also found this is an interesting fact/history as well.
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and also...if the TALLEST Building In The World Completed, that year also market crash...

this year to complete BURJ DUBAI in 9th SEPT 09!!!

last time KLCC - 1997

more at

Tallest Buildings As Leading Indicator
http://johnlawcapitalist.blogspot.com/2008...-indicator.html



Just to share (but not a believer - but how about the HERD?? )

this also interesting
August 14th for stock market crash say astrologers
http://arabianmoney.net/2009/08/06/august-...ay-astrologers/

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Dow to pass 10,000, S&P 1,050 and then crash?
http://arabianmoney.net/2009/08/04/dow-to-...and-then-crash/

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post Aug 11 2009, 12:17 AM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 10 2009, 07:34 PM)
Commerz is proposing of changing name. hhmm.

CODE
1023    COMMERZ    BUMIPUTRA-COMMERCE HOLDINGS  
Proposed Change of Company Name  

Current Stock Name: COMMERZ
Current Company Name: BUMIPUTRA-COMMERCE HOLDINGS BERHAD
Proposed Company Name: CIMB GROUP HOLDINGS BERHAD


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Good one for them. So much effort have gone into building that CIMB name / brand, they are leveraging on the brandname. It's smart.
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post Aug 11 2009, 12:17 AM

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wanna to sell my holding, been with me for last 2 months (early June) .. until now all still 20-30% from my entry price.

only Seasunk doing good for now. Almost reaching my average price
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QUOTE(mopster @ Aug 10 2009, 07:10 PM)
1/2 day never spam got new thread already....  doh.gif
Checking in V37... 

wow, RCECAP, PELIKAN  bye.gif
Now I regret didnt listen to my remisier's advise to buy rubber gloves... padan muka!  doh.gif
I'm also holding.. parents pushing me to sell, but no way.....
Is it wise to average up Rambutan at around 15 ? plz advise..  smile.gif
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I also cant believe that Harta actually pass RM5. I tot even at RM3.xx, it was hella expensive even though they generated the best income in the rubber glove industries in term of percentage. If you asked me, I dont think they can actually beat Top Glove nor Kossan in term of volume of sales. Speaking of which, I do service a few customers who has ongoing business assembling machines for these companies, and Top Glove is still the beast compared to the rest. Their volume is staggering. Harta is probably having the fastest machines among all of them which puts them in a good position despite having lesser machinery.
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post Aug 11 2009, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 10 2009, 11:53 PM)
A lot of time, market crash around this time Sep or Oct.

Last year the big bear in multi-decade started and take control around September as well, which nosediving event start due to Lehman.
911.
1929 crash
1987 crash

The previous recession of 2002 also hit the low point during September

Don't know it is coincidence or not. 

Don't mean to say Sep is a dangerous month, just it is the history of the market.

Edited, after I posted, I also found this is an interesting fact/history as well.
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I think it is circumstantial, relating those events to the fact after it had happened.
I mean, it is a bit like reading yesterday's horoscope and said that yes, maybe the things written in the horoscope is right
because some things happened just like what the horoscope said it would. More like you read it and you find an event in your life that day that is the same as what the horoscope said.

The list shows some 4 events about the market crash in September. In the other years, surely there have been other months where market have crashed, wasn't it ? I believe that if one is to chart the time the market slides, one would know that the market can crash at any months, and that in the course of the decades, the months where the market could have crashed would be the same, whether it be September, or any other months smile.gif

That brings to mind, the great depression, 1924, did it start on September as well ?

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