1) Buzzing - so far no, hopefully not 
2) I find LCD too bright for me.
3) Flicker - I find sometimes but S10 is worse
4) Hot - S10 is much hotter than B650
5) Astro - later of the year Astro would have HD channel (stage by stage tho), I watch HD content mostly of the time

Features that I like (add on):
1) Much better GUI compared to S10
2) Networking (wireless/ LAN)

Much like a pros and cons situation. Strongly suggest V series for those with fat wallet like our TS. 

Actually panny plasma's also have this, its just not as bad. LG and Sammys are slightly worse. Panny's recover faster, sammy and lg takes a little longer. Phospor residue....Some people do not like to hear this, but Pioneer does fare very well in this regard.

Agreed with you totally. My 8th gen Kuro had no retention issue at all. The orbiter really works! I did not even do proper burn in. Out of the box, it's been working like a horse and the picture is getting better everyday. If you mampu to pay 6000 for a korean plasma, might as well top up 2000+ more and get 508XG... guaranteed you will smile upto your ears 

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Added on August 5, 2009, 1:46 pmThe last time i try out an LG plasma, i see image retention after leaving a still image on the screen for a min or so.  That is too bad.  I can accept if we get retention after leaving a still image on the screen for a long period of time like 30mins or 1hr but not when only after a few minutes.

For me i can try to avoid having any still image on the screen but there is too many programs that have channel logo and especially gaming which have hud that might cause permanent burn-in.

I hope the those new samsumg plasma owners can provide more info regarding how prone is the new set to burn-in

Yes it is. It's fine during low lighting situations (after 6pm). Daylight watching seems dimmer.

Fullscreen whites should never look grey. I believe it is some setting that you have not optimized. Fullscreen white will not be as bright as a LCD due to the nature of plasmas APL but it shd never look grey.

I would say dim. Somehow i suspect it's dynamic contrast. Here's how i test. I use PC HDMI as source so i can control.
> 1st test picture, 100% white. Screen dims, whites becomes greyish.
> 2nd test picture, 50% white, 50%. The whites becomes whiter.
> 3rd test picture, 10% white, 90% mix color. perfect whites.

No changes in TV settings. Just different type of picture. Even easier to see the effect of dimming when i drag a white window around the screen. When it fills up 100% of the screen, the white becomes grey. Can see the dynamic contrast ratio (or dimming) adjusting itself.

I have turn off all enhancements. May try to put on Game mode and let you guys know the result.
Hope it does!
No complains on fast moving pictures at all. No ghosting whatsoever. Again, easiest to test by dragging window. However, horizontal bleeding seems to be a major problem. Eg, scrolling text / credits will exhibit image bleeding. That annoying as well.
The disappointments i have with this set is below:
- Scrolling bleed
- Buzzing
- Astro PQ
- 100Hz only works for 50Hz input. It will not optimize HTPC movies channeled via HDMI. The signal must be in 50Hz or 1080p/24Hz to take advantage of the cinema smooth function.

The likes i have:
- DLNA (even plays MKVs)
- Price / size ratio
- Color accuracy and black levels
- Thin (surprising for a plasma)

However, i don't think i can get a 50' LCD within the same price range with the blacks and color accuracy

Yes it is. It's fine during low lighting situations (after 6pm). Daylight watching seems dimmer.

Fullscreen whites should never look grey. I believe it is some setting that you have not optimized. Fullscreen white will not be as bright as a LCD due to the nature of plasmas APL but it shd never look grey.

I would say dim. Somehow i suspect it's dynamic contrast. Here's how i test. I use PC HDMI as source so i can control.
> 1st test picture, 100% white. Screen dims, whites becomes greyish.
> 2nd test picture, 50% white, 50%. The whites becomes whiter.
> 3rd test picture, 10% white, 90% mix color. perfect whites.

No changes in TV settings. Just different type of picture. Even easier to see the effect of dimming when i drag a white window around the screen. When it fills up 100% of the screen, the white becomes grey. Can see the dynamic contrast ratio (or dimming) adjusting itself.

I have turn off all enhancements. May try to put on Game mode and let you guys know the result.
Hope it does!
No complains on fast moving pictures at all. No ghosting whatsoever. Again, easiest to test by dragging window. However, horizontal bleeding seems to be a major problem. Eg, scrolling text / credits will exhibit image bleeding. That annoying as well.
The disappointments i have with this set is below:
- Scrolling bleed
- Buzzing
- Astro PQ
- 100Hz only works for 50Hz input. It will not optimize HTPC movies channeled via HDMI. The signal must be in 50Hz or 1080p/24Hz to take advantage of the cinema smooth function.

The likes i have:
- DLNA (even plays MKVs)
- Price / size ratio
- Color accuracy and black levels
- Thin (surprising for a plasma)

However, i don't think i can get a 50' LCD within the same price range with the blacks and color accuracy

I have curtain down which effectively can block sun light. 

Hi, bro, mind to share with us by post some pictures 

The curtain is just thick enough that it can block sunlight and make the room dark 
A re-post...this pic was taken around 6pm on first day of delivery:
(You can still see sunlight at the edge of curtain)

Right. I just like dark room... this B650 is better than S10 on reflection.
S10 seems a bit grey-ish in bright room.

I saw an older B450 sammy in senQ and i thought the PQ was excellent - solid contrast, deep black and nice color. I bet B650 must be much much nicer. Somehow the Panasonic displays there were all "grey" and even worst, the color was a bit orangish. Why Panasonic is like that ah?

Can anybody help, where can I still get Panasonic TH-50PY850 in Malaysia ?

I saw 1 unit at the Kuching.  Price is around RM4,XXX.  At MJC.

@ that price is would be a f@rking steal!!! (assuming its a new and not demo unit)

Demo oso dun mind la... as long as it's in good condition...no scratch etc... some it's been 'break-in' already
5 yrs warranty ... made in Japan 

Demo oso dun mind la... as long as it's in good condition...no scratch etc... some it's been 'break-in' already
5 yrs warranty ... made in Japan