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SUSDickson Poon
post Jul 28 2009, 01:19 AM

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Next suggestion: STRICT ban on the phrase "Ada wang ada amoi", punishable by 3 days suspension, the context investigated of course.

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post Jul 28 2009, 01:24 AM

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jul 28 2009, 01:19 AM)
Next suggestion: STRICT ban on the phrase "Ada wang ada amoi", punishable by 3 days suspension, the context investigated of course.

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Lol.

Be careful.

To move CC to a higher place may widen the gap between these two types of mentality of people.



The first type is:

"I sincerely, and personally believe that money is important in a relationship"

And the second:

"Ada wang ada amoi"

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jul 28 2009, 01:26 AM
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post Jul 28 2009, 01:28 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 28 2009, 01:24 AM)
Lol.

Be careful.

To move CC to a higher place may widen the gap between these two types of mentality of people.
The first type is:

"I sincerely, and personally believe that money is important in a relationship"

And the second:

"Ada wang ada amoi"
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i'm the first type.. so it is okay with me if wan to ban those phrase from CC thumbup.gif
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post Jul 28 2009, 01:30 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 28 2009, 01:24 AM)
Lol.

Be careful.

To move CC to a higher place may widen the gap between these two types of mentality of people.
The first type is:

"I sincerely, and personally believe that money is important in a relationship"

And the second:

"Ada wang ada amoi"
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Isn't that good? tongue.gif
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post Jul 28 2009, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jul 28 2009, 01:30 AM)
Isn't that good? tongue.gif
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Read those phrases again.

Do you see any difference with the meaning from them?

One may appear classy.

And the other may appear vagabond-ish.

I cannot foresee what will happen if CC is moved out from Kopitiam, but I'm a lil' suspicious of the consequences of that endeavour.
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post Jul 28 2009, 01:40 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 28 2009, 01:34 AM)
Read those phrases again.

Do you see any difference with the meaning from them?

One may appear classy.

And the other may appear vagabond-ish.

I cannot foresee what will happen if CC is moved out from Kopitiam, but I'm a lil' suspicious of the consequences of that endeavour.
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There is a vast difference in both statements.

The former merely states the importance of money.
The latter is a generalized fallacious statement that equates money with automatic chick magnet.

How is it not different? hmm.gif
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post Jul 28 2009, 01:42 AM

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Jul 28 2009, 01:40 AM)
There is a vast difference in both statements.

The former merely states the importance of money.
The latter is a generalized fallacious statement that equates money with automatic chick magnet.

How is it not different? hmm.gif
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And you did not see generalization exists from both phrases?
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post Jul 28 2009, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 28 2009, 01:42 AM)
And you did not see generalization exists from both phrases?
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Nope.

The first sentence is from a personal perspective that views money being important, which it is.
A lot of relationship issues are due to financial problems, from getting into debts, not having enough, no career prospects from the husband, etc.


The second one equates that once you have money, you must have women. Assuming its not talking about prostitution.
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post Jul 28 2009, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Jul 28 2009, 01:49 AM)
Nope.

The first sentence is from a personal perspective that views money being important, which it is.

A lot of relationship issues are due to financial problems, from getting into debts, not having enough, no career prospects from the husband, etc.

The second one equates that once you have money, you must have women. Assuming its not talking about prostitution.
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I suppose you didn't see it my way:

1st phrase: Money being important.

2nd phrase: Money being important.

When they say things like: "Ada wang, ada amoi", they don't really mean it. What they mean was they've deduced that money is important.

But yeah, I'll vote for CC to be moved out from Kopitiam. Let's just see how things turn out.

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post Jul 28 2009, 02:04 AM

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ada wang ada amoi has always been punishable by death vacation, or at least i flag for it whenever i see it. but i'm not at every page of every thread. so again, click REPORT button at the post. very very few people do it, but i thank the people who do.

not only that, posts that are sexually explicit, racially explicit, and general trolling (the general banter is allowed, to a certain level) is not allowed.

threads that generalise (to a certain extent) and poll threads are definitely closed. this section is for people seeking advice, or to promote a DISCUSSION regarding love and relationships. polls are spam threads, and generalizations (eg: all men only think with their smaller brother, all women are bimbos) are stupid to the TS' credit, and insulting to others.

rant threads are not allowed. use a blog. a forum is for discussion, or in this section asking for advice. its for communication. its not for u to post and disappear. if u need someone to hear u out, then make it constructive, like ending it with advice for particular issues in your rant etc. make it a discussion.

u guys already probably know this, but just reiterating my current policy in Cupid Corner for references

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 28 2009, 01:52 AM)
I suppose you didn't see it my way:

1st phrase: Money being important.

2nd phrase: Money being important.

When they say things like: "Ada wang, ada amoi", they don't really mean it. What they mean was they've deduced that money is important.
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Let me ask you then, when someone uses the 2nd phrase, do you think he's intention is to discuss it with you? Does it compel you to continue the discussion based on Ada Wang Ada Amoi?

Is there continuity and constructiveness in the 2nd phrase?

Does it not seem to you that while the first phrase is talking about relationship, while the 2nd talks about getting women, which does not necessarily involve a relationship?
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the first phrase is mostly used by educated ppl. for the sec one, mostly voiced out by entertainer or lazy ppls.
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post Jul 28 2009, 02:07 AM

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QUOTE(Baronic @ Jul 28 2009, 02:04 AM)
ada wang ada amoi has always been punishable by death vacation, or at least i flag for it whenever i see it. but i'm not at every page of every thread. so again, click REPORT button at the post. very very few people do it, but i thank the people who do.

not only that, posts that are sexually explicit, racially explicit, and general trolling (the general banter is allowed, to a certain level) is not allowed.

threads that generalise (to a certain extent) and poll threads are definitely closed. this section is for people seeking advice, or to promote a DISCUSSION regarding love and relationships. polls are spam threads, and generalizations (eg: all men only think with their smaller brother) are stupid to the TS' credit, and insulting to others.

u guys already probably know this, but just reiterating my current policy in Cupid Corner for references
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Supposing the poll is to seek a popular advice based on the given option? Questions like "should I", etc ?
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post Jul 28 2009, 02:08 AM

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Jul 28 2009, 02:05 AM)
Let me ask you then, when someone uses the 2nd phrase, do you think he's intention is to discuss it with you? Does it compel you to continue the discussion based on Ada Wang Ada Amoi?

Is there continuity and constructiveness in the 2nd phrase?

Does it not seem to you that while the first phrase is talking about relationship, while the 2nd talks about getting women, which does not necessarily involve a relationship?
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I understand what you're pointing out and we may define these two phrases differently, but my point is there'll be a gap between these two types of mentality if CC is moved.

But I have no qualms about moving it from Kopitiam anyway.

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jul 28 2009, 02:09 AM
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post Jul 28 2009, 02:30 AM

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QUOTE(happy4ever @ Jul 28 2009, 02:07 AM)
Supposing the poll is to seek a popular advice based on the given option? Questions like "should I", etc ?
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again, it'll encourage "yes" and "no" posts with nothing constructive to add to the discussion. if he needs advice on "should i" and its genuine, then he doesnt need a poll, but listen instead to the reasoning behind each forummer's answer

and even that would depend on the content on the first post. CC is not for surveys but genuine pleas for help, discussion, etc etc, i dun think i need to reiterate

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post Jul 28 2009, 02:34 AM

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QUOTE(Baronic @ Jul 28 2009, 02:30 AM)
again, it'll encourage "yes" and "no" posts with nothing constructive to add to the discussion. if he needs advice on "should i" and its genuine, then he doesnt need a poll, but listen instead to the reasoning behind each forummer's answer

and even that would depend on the content on the first post. CC is not for surveys but genuine pleas for help, discussion, etc etc, i dun think i need to reiterate
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How did the ups respond to this anyway? Any thin ray of hope sighted?

This post has been edited by Deadlocks: Jul 28 2009, 02:36 AM
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post Jul 28 2009, 03:52 AM

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QUOTE(Deadlocks @ Jul 28 2009, 02:34 AM)
How did the ups respond to this anyway? Any thin ray of hope sighted?
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its 4 am dude. give it a while
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QUOTE(silverhawk @ Jul 28 2009, 12:28 AM)
Ever moderated a forum before? Its not easy to be both friendly and authoritative at the same time, especially when the members are so immature.
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i'm talking about rooms for improvement not about whether it is easy or hard, mods are given authority to handle immature people with maturity unlike the rest of the forummer which doesn't neccesary need to be commited when things go bad

QUOTE(Dickson Poon @ Jul 28 2009, 12:29 AM)
Moderators alone, no matter how many, will never be able to steer or direct a medium that is so heavily reliant on quality participation as a forum.

If we want to make a change, then we have to do it together: moderators and staff together with participating members who are willing to effect change.

We cannot just push responsibility to people in positions of power and expect them to take care of us. If we want change, then we must take on the responsibility of effecting it.  nod.gif
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true, what have you change about yourself lately hmm.gif ?

QUOTE(goldfries @ Jul 28 2009, 12:31 AM)
biggrin.gif each mod will surely interact in their section. other section, no choice la we just have to attend to report and post notice if needed.

i just close a few threads in /k/ and now i got posts / threads about me already. i LOL. at least CC is not that bad, the general participants are less and we more BETTER people around to keep things in check.
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erm trying to be creative other than trying to make more excuses ? like chasing after a girl, we can't just jump in front of her and said "hi, i like you !" with a serious face =X

and this is so creative
http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1110862

if people don't take it seriously lol

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Bring CC out of /k/ territory!!!!!!
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post Jul 28 2009, 09:08 AM

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First and foremost, this is the place where ppl seeks for advise. So this suggestion thread should be moved to Helpdesk.
And secondly the aim of an argument or discussion should not be victory, but progress.

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