I decided to create a new thread for discussion after seeing Baronic's post here at this thread.

Why not form a committee of people whom you personally know (and can vouch for) to be good, reliable contributors? They can help you to be your eyes and ears.

There are a lot of good posts and ideas in CC, but unfortunately the whole thing lacks structure and a lot of ideas get lost in traffic, so it's inevitable that people have to keep posting the same thing again and again.

I believe that stickies are a good way to overcome this problem. Perhaps there could be a thread with a free flowing discussion, followed by a sticky thread where positions, arguments and points are summarised by the contributor, linking back to the original discussion?

Discussion is good but there are clear limits to what they can achieve. I think that it's time where forumers are given the option of just reading and digesting well written points of views in order to form their own insights.

If we're serious about providing quality input, then we have to give some thought into providing form and structure to our point of views... the one thing I've observed that is lacking in CC so far.

Just two cents off the top of my head...

P.S: I have more thoughts but I want to see the reception to this thread before I proceed with posting and developing them.

This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Jul 25 2009, 09:01 PM

People want personal attention to their problems even if the problem they are facing has been posted here >9000 times.

i dont understand a shit, i gtfo

every newfag wants to make CC their own.

freestyle is and alwiz will be best.

+1

This is so true

After seeing all these replies above,you can dream on,dickson,my friend.

These people just dont take anything seriously.They prefer some pointless retarded topics than something with points to debate on.

Or in another words,degrade CC into /k brainless forum.

CC already RIP...

I feel contented if someone really benefited from CC and improves his/her life

Unfortunately, at this juncture, we are not seeing that.

i have PM'ed Baronic before regarding pinning up a thread about common questions such as:

Where to go,what to do, where to eat, what to buy etc....

we can collaborate all our ideas and the TS can just update the first post from the suggestions collected thru out the thread.

certain threads being pinned up to avoid repetition will be nice. Although a certain other thread being pinned up will certainly cause annoyance to those who disagree. If i see his thread pinned up I might be too annoyed to return to CC cuz I have to see his thread in the pinned section before I see other threads.

By "his" thread, do you mean...ezralimm's? If I'm not mistaken.

Yes. I find his threads over simplified and demeaning as well as annoying. I usually like reading tips for this stuff but not his. in communication, love, bond, connection, chemistry, etc etc, 1+1 does not always equals 2. It also fills to the brim with the idea that less than beautiful or rich people cannot find a partner. Such articles should inspire people to be better, not beat them down. It should be telling about stuff we never knew and have never thought of.

So yeah, just about any thread except his.

Ouch.

Yeap,we wont be seeing anything improving with all the /k idiots running around.

If the mods wants to improve CC,the first step they should do is,remove CC from Kopitiam and put it as another standalone subforum on the main page,not a subforum in kopitiam.

What Jam say is right.

Most people here just dont agree with whatever he says.

The truth hurts,but the problem is the way it is worded hurts people a lot without thinking of how people feel.Besides,those that are just his personal experience and he has not much credibility as he doesnt read any relationship related books.

He thinks he's just awesome.

im not sure the problem is with the way its worded....to me his contents are flawed...

and yeah everything Jamien says i agree.

The first thing that offended me is how is it worded.

The contents arent really flawed.Quite true,but too generalised.

Lol, Dickson Poon's thread got off-tracked to "attack ezra thread".

Cupid corner is right where it should be, alongside Jokes Heaven in Kopitiam, where the lulz rules.

If there's any changes that really need to be made, I suggest that those whatever spamming clubs thread being moved to \k\ rather than CC. I don't see it serves any purposes here other than spamming. We already have classifieds here, so whoever that have their social needs to be fulfill should go there instead or spam around in \k\'s chat thread. That'll leave threads of people seeking advice to be on top instead of spamming threads that don't serve any meaningful purpose in CC.

Hmm, well I don't know who you're referring to, but just to be on the safe side, I certainly don't intend to make CC "my own".

I'm not even going to be here for the long haul. I'm not even wise enough to make any real, permanent contribution to this place, which is why if you all here think it's worth a shot, it's going to be mostly your collective efforts.

We have a lot of good contributors here. I think that it'd be cool just to give them some proper recognition and sticky the really good posts they've made.

A lot of guys here put a lot of thought into their posts, as well as share deep experiences and profound insights. But the traffic is heavy and a lot of good content is just swamped and forgotten. There isn't much economy in this.

Also, just to allay your fears, just because we get a little bit more serious doesn't mean that this place is going to be ALL serious. There's still going to be a lot of room for laughs and just horsing around. I really can't imagine a place dedicated to love and relationships being all dour and spartan and I'm pretty sure a lot of folks feel the same way.

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Added on July 26, 2009, 4:26 amGood point!

It's not economical for those of us dispensing the advice and support though. Perhaps with good stickies, we wouldn't have to write so much, thus we can refer the poster to the sticky but write additional stuff for his/her unique situation.

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Added on July 26, 2009, 4:35 amThat would certainly be true.

But CC has one advantage that perhaps a lot of other places don't have: we have diversity of experiences and opinion.

Thus, we can disagree and even bicker, but we can do so meaningfully.

It wouldn't be good if only one point of view gets advertised, but with the diversity of quality opinions and points of views here, if we gave equal time and say to all that deserve it, there's a good chance that we could really create something that's not just thought provoking, but also catalytic in broadening our perspectives.

For all of Ezra's thread's faults and failures, he is attempting to provide a structure for his readers. Perhaps we wouldn't mind his personal opinions, efforts and flaws so much if we had more diversity of quality posts also providing form and structure.

This post has been edited by Dickson Poon: Jul 26 2009, 04:35 AM

form and structure is hard to come by if you didn't think globalisation, Poon.
I guess that you already know that every each one of us have their own thoughts and opinion, agreements and disagreements.
Even a great book lacks form and structure but as long as you can understand it, it's cool.
That's life I must say.
Reading Ezralimm's thread doesn't lead me anyway but I'm sure there will be certain people who can find it useful as a reference.
If you want to make CC great, first we need to make LYN great. If the core start to bleach out, so does its roots and CC is one of the roots.
But, it is either impossible to make such things to become 'great' if there are sides taking place here.

like this incest thread here Incest

this thread is meaningless no matter how much you can think about it and do about it. If you know it is right or wrong, you can't change people's view about it.
Bias or not it still a bad thing 'generally' and 'religiously'. Someone has broke their own rules but as long as it remains 'clean' it's ok lol.
like Kampung 2005 and Cheesenium said, CC is RIP OFF already and still going on and I have to agree with that.
the only thing I like about being here is the SC and some of silverhawk's topic .

Just look into the mirror, like ezralim says, while holding a screw driver.
Put some vaseline on it, and ask yourself, "if i am the girl, will she screw me?"

The answer lies in the mirror.