Dear Aquagal,

If you say THIS IS NOT A PYRAMID SCHEME AT ALL, do you have the source or proof for it? Do you actually know what pyramid / ponzy scheme is? What is your job task in score-A? To sell those portals and get more downlines right? Most of you guys woul focus on getting more downlines so that you can obtain override commision and for a network for yourself right? Then your downlines get more downlines and you, being the upline gets more commision. So isn't this pyramid scheme?

Bear in mind that I'm not against Score-A or this pyramid scheme. I'm just pissed with those MLM-ers who keep on persuade and bug me even if politely reject them. They would come and call me anotehr day insisting me to join their member. This is what I hate most.

Hi,

it's actually duplication of your effort. for example in score-A : u mange to get 4 members in ur downline. u can c the profit there.
next ,the 4 members will get their 4 downline each. So won't the each 4 earn too as well as u?? that the beauty of it. it's nt piramid system more like a tree concept. Piramid system is illegal in malaysia and the company has strong support from the government to do this business. Don't you think for a company which has strong government support uses pyramid scheme to do the business??? impossible.

The concept of pyramid is structured like a pyramid.. my concept of pyramid scheme is... the initial recruiter(the top level) is the person who starts it, the first downline required to invest cash to join in, which will go to the initial recruiter in order for him to get back the cash tat he (initial) invested. Here's where Score A marketing plan differs. same goes to the first downline who recruit more ppl under him. Do u agree that the pyramid system works like hw i mentioned.


Can i clarify something with you, what makes you to have the thought that score A is using pyramid system? Are you aware of the Score A business plan??

yeah i can understand your situation. Can i know the reason of your rejection?i hope i answered your questions.

what if is i say my damn old skool use this program as learning tools and my school is the one that get the 90% straight a's in pmr. can you believe in me?

btw my senior from the same darn school ask me to join. still thinking bout it.

Which MLM company are you with?



I have never been one-sided, I've just never had someone tell me why selling Rm25 toothpaste is honest.

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This post has been edited by wodenus: Aug 2 2010, 12:00 PM

Greetings there again aquagal,

Before I continue with this discussion, let me be clear with you. I have nothing with Score A or Kenshido nor its scheme as well. Ok? So no hard feelings. Let us exchange our thoughts and increase our knowledge.

First of all, to me, network marketing/multi-level marketing is already a pyramid scheme to me. I understand this is a very bold and immature statement. From what I understand from this MLM is, the recruiter will recruit downlines, and the recruitment money from the downlines is paid to the Company(not the recruiter). From this amount of money, the company forks out certain % to the recruiter as commission. Furthermore, if the recruiter's downlines do recruit another downline, the recruitment money goes to the company as well and certain % is also given to the initial recruiter which is called overriding commission right? Thus this routine goes on and on. This is what I refer to as pyramid scheme. And I do not really get your tree concept. It seems a similar to the pyramid scheme. Care to further explain?

Our dearest government have supported you all. Congratz for that. The question is whether the company obtained that certificate it in a legal way or not is another thing. Corruption within our country is so common nowadays.

Bear in mind that I have no problem with the certificate legality or the pyramid scheme. It may be my lost not to join it as it MAY be my chance to achieve financial freedom in the easiest way. But I did not regret not joining it. My problem is just towards those aggresive MLM-ers.

My reason of rejection is simple, financial issues. I just couldn't fork up 1.8k in a day's time for that MLM-er to recruit me. He even suggests me to borrow money from friends and family. The part when I hated bout him most is he kept insisting on me borrowing money everytime I rejected him. Isn't that annoying ?

@aquagal11
Either you're too naive or you still too young to understand the concept thanks to the one sided brainwash.

I might agree with you that this is not a pyramid scheme; however it is still riding on a pyramid concept. Like you explain yourself, you find 1 ppl, each of the 4 find another 4. So to keep it simple; you draw it out and tell me the shape. You can call it a tree or whatever, but then again; it's still a pyramid because you are getting overriding commissions. The terms is different or the marketing plan might be different but the concept is still the same.

I even met someone or basically most Kenshido recruiters telling me this is not a "Direct Sale". when you market the plan to individual, it is a sale; because ppl have to pay to join. When you market the product to the individual, it's a sale; because ppl have to pay to get the product. SO rebut me on this is not a "direct sale" definition. Without "sales" no company can sustain and pay the "commissions"; it's just easy economics.

You have to understand that most ppl doesn't really mind MLM. However it is the way it is marketed and the lack of transparency involved. Like the mass usage of "this is not direct sales but it is known as network marketing" just shows how naive one can be to deny the simple truth. i.e. the evolution of "words". Started with "Pyramid" then once everyone gets to know and loath the concept; it then evolve into the "Direct Sales". When it gets the same reception, the new term "MLM" i.e. "Multi Level Marketing" comes about. Then everyone gets tired thus a simpler terms comes in play now... "Network Marketing". However, who can deny it is the same thing since the start? It is how the plan is being derived and how it is being marketed.

Like I say, be transparent from the start. Why hide this hide that.

Hi guys i just joined Kenshido ScoreA marketing business plan for 3 weeks time & i get back my capital already so the next step is i will guide my downline to get back their hard earn money also indirectly i will get some my hard afford bonus reward . why kenshido able to pay out that high commission ? becos their company only do maintenance in one product & no need that high expenses to keep maintain it. so thats why kenshido make a words say "Your Dream Our Vision" this mean we working with each other, u promote his product he give u money. its fair right ? there is no money will drop from sky such things. what u pay what u get.

i saw some ppls say "good things no need to promote" ??? hahahaa.....if u still live in 20years back then that might be works. in current generation if u do same way then u slow slow wait to sale ur product. im sure will get famous in one day of ur product just that the matter of time when can be that popular.

we live in bullet world now everythings have to act fast, u slow u will be left behind.

why others company can do mlm business by then why kenshido cant do ? yet this product is another tools good for education such a big market in malaysia.

so i hope i wont get shoot by u guys becos of my statement

dey, ypur sales pitch is so obvious la

well everthings that with product sure is sales n involve with Business. once in business sure related with money. so started with money then u can earning commission money as a reward.

the above person who is big loser of our generation should know something before he/she give such a statement...

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even one of world's richest man is talking about importance of MLM. why can't we accept the fact. If you born as a poor guy, its not your fault but if you die as a poor guy, it is purely your mistake. For you kind information, this company came out with such a marketing plan jz 3 years ago but the product in the market for more than 10 years. Think before you speak out and speak with facts.

well said man !!!! i raise my hand & leg to totally agree with u. well.......we cant force them also, that is his/her choice. all depend on their self decision. he/she want to change it or just staying.

both of you got one thing in common

Hi, I am using the scoreA program a.k.a ScoreA e-Learning. Now im facing some problem. Firstly , after I log in to my scoreA account, there are two choices , 1 is e Examination hall and another is i-Teacher. I can't find the ENTER button for the i-Teacher .So, until now i still haven't get to learn from i-Teacher. Secondly, i have already sent the message to scoreA for the e-Report card through Hand phone but it doesn't reply back and when i have done with those exercises / exam by using ScoreA program, it doesn't send anything to me. I feel like i am wasting my money and time. Does anyone know how to solve this prob? Thanks

I have been checked to ur problem i found nothings wrong with the login with I-Teacher. by the way any of problem u facing u can e-mail them directly & they will guide u.
Kenshido International Sdn Bhd
Wisma Kenshido, No 1-1, 1-2, 1-3,Jalan PJU 5/6, Dataran Sunway PJU 5,
47810 Kota Damansara, Petaling Jaya, Selangor Malaysia.
Tel: 603-6141 8286 (Hunting Line) Fax:603-6141 8126, 6141 8136
Website: http://www.kenshido.com / www.scorea.com
E-mail: enquiries@kenshido.com




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Only loser will write in RED.

BTW, Microsoft do not do MLM business.

2 of my frens did this business in my university last year.. then this year one of them already driving a mercedez and other one mazda..

but i feel this is not my type of earning money.. >_<"

This post has been edited by oyama: Aug 25 2010, 12:54 PM

Red can be used to stress some points. So, winner also can use it.

A large font with red colour somemore in forum place, mean that somebody are shouting and cursing on others.

So please mind the font and word.

Any statement doesn't need to be in big font.

A strong statement come with facts and supporting points.
A statement doesn't need or being seems strong with big font or red colour only.


This post has been edited by cherroy: Aug 25 2010, 05:40 PM

score A cannot do 1 trust me.......100 people only 4-5 can success.....now all my downline all expired....trust me dont listen to your frenz who asked you to join....is totally bullshit....once you join they disappear/dont want care about you adi......and now even worst...from Rm596 to Rm796 for ebiz and so on for others packages.....is totally up to you den...this is my point of view...cheers

lolzz.......it might happen to those expire becos of sitting on there waiting the durian drop down. hahahaaa......hey man this world there is no such free lunch. what u work n what u get then.