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 Question about Kenshido/Score-A, Business seems fishy to me

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elvenchou1987
post Jul 14 2010, 04:36 PM

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I also got off from a Score A seminar two months ago which my friend asked me attend. At first, I was intrigued by the presentation and how the speaker explained what Skor A was all about. To me, I felt it was a good programme. However, it is still based on an individual's perception whether to obtain that portal or not. That presentation on SKOR A was only 15 minutes.

Then came to the most interesting part. How to gain benefit from it. Again, the 2nd speaker was very good. It made me almost wanted to invest in it as well. But I realized it was MLM and most people say MLM is cheating. But due to the fact that the product is education based, I felt confident in it.

After the presentation, the members came to me. Trying to convince me to join them. I had an intention to join but at that moment, I was really in financial crisis. I didn't have 1.7k at all in my bank. Therefore I rejected. And here goes the part where I hate most. They kept on pressuring and persuade me to join even I don't have the money. They would ask me to borrow from relatives and friends and as time goes by, I was getting annoyed.

What I'm trying to say is, I don't mind you venture are into this business. But the way you try to convince us especially those aggresive members, really do annoy and irritate. When we say NO due to our own personal reasons, means NO. Final. Don't come and be our financial planner.

Once I told them, since you say that joining this business is a GURANTEE PROFIT, why not you borrow me that 1.7k and I join as member. Then IF i manage to get profit out of it, I will return you that 1.7k and we work happily together. If things goes sour and I couldn't sell any, too bad I'm not returning you that 1.7k. He stood quiet for awhile and I just left. Meaning, the MLM guy isn't certain at all whether that I could sell also. Then why bother sayin GURANTEE PROFIT or RETURN.

elvenchou1987
post Jul 28 2010, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(aquagal11 @ Jul 28 2010, 09:25 AM)
Hi all,

i have also heard about the score A. it looks good and i have all dee join it. Actually this program is not to replace the school system or tution,. this is just an additional tool for kids to create the interest to study and do well in their exams. all the while v've been given onli input learning, noting output so this is totally based on output learning.. even the past year books have limited collection of paper. but v hv 12 yrs of collection of past yr papers. y worry much. it's jst and additional tool to make learning more interesting NOT REPLACEMENT for any...

And it also helps people who want to earn xtra money. all u have to do is jst put the same effort that u are putting during your employment life here and u can c the money flowing in. y worry.  u work like dog for your company at the end u get fixed salary. here is passive income. AND THIS IS NT PIRAMID SYSTEM AT ALL.. if you have built ur network and if something bad happens to u( touch wood.. u died) the income will be credited into your beneficiary ..actually u need to have a good group leader and member. as for me i'm lucky that my group leader is good.. v do have alot of activities in groups to motivate the members who facing problem and solution to over come it.

Not promoting but clearing things to ppl who commented..smile.gif no offence. jst my opinion on this.
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Dear Aquagal,

If you say THIS IS NOT A PYRAMID SCHEME AT ALL, do you have the source or proof for it? Do you actually know what pyramid / ponzy scheme is? What is your job task in score-A? To sell those portals and get more downlines right? Most of you guys woul focus on getting more downlines so that you can obtain override commision and for a network for yourself right? Then your downlines get more downlines and you, being the upline gets more commision. So isn't this pyramid scheme?

Bear in mind that I'm not against Score-A or this pyramid scheme. I'm just pissed with those MLM-ers who keep on persuade and bug me even if politely reject them. They would come and call me anotehr day insisting me to join their member. This is what I hate most.


elvenchou1987
post Aug 2 2010, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(aquagal11 @ Jul 29 2010, 04:17 PM)
Hi,

it's actually duplication of your effort. for example in score-A : u mange to get 4 members in ur downline.  u can c the profit there.
next ,the 4 members will get their 4 downline each. So won't the each 4 earn too as well as u?? that the beauty of it. it's nt piramid system more like a tree concept. Piramid system is illegal in malaysia and the company has strong support from the government to do this business. Don't you think for a company which has strong government support uses pyramid scheme to do the business??? impossible.

The concept of pyramid is structured like a pyramid.. my concept of pyramid scheme is... the initial recruiter(the top level) is the person who starts it, the first downline required to invest cash to join in, which will go to the initial recruiter in order for him to get back the cash tat he (initial) invested. Here's where Score A marketing plan differs. same goes to the first downline who recruit more ppl under him. Do u agree that the pyramid system works like hw i mentioned.
Can i clarify something with you, what makes you to have the thought that score A is using pyramid system? Are you aware of the Score A business plan??

yeah i can understand your situation. Can i know the reason of your rejection?i hope i answered your questions.
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Greetings there again aquagal,

Before I continue with this discussion, let me be clear with you. I have nothing with Score A or Kenshido nor its scheme as well. Ok? So no hard feelings. Let us exchange our thoughts and increase our knowledge.

First of all, to me, network marketing/multi-level marketing is already a pyramid scheme to me. I understand this is a very bold and immature statement. From what I understand from this MLM is, the recruiter will recruit downlines, and the recruitment money from the downlines is paid to the Company(not the recruiter). From this amount of money, the company forks out certain % to the recruiter as commission. Furthermore, if the recruiter's downlines do recruit another downline, the recruitment money goes to the company as well and certain % is also given to the initial recruiter which is called overriding commission right? Thus this routine goes on and on. This is what I refer to as pyramid scheme. And I do not really get your tree concept. It seems a similar to the pyramid scheme. Care to further explain?

Our dearest government have supported you all. Congratz for that. The question is whether the company obtained that certificate it in a legal way or not is another thing. Corruption within our country is so common nowadays.

Bear in mind that I have no problem with the certificate legality or the pyramid scheme. It may be my lost not to join it as it MAY be my chance to achieve financial freedom in the easiest way. But I did not regret not joining it. My problem is just towards those aggresive MLM-ers.

My reason of rejection is simple, financial issues. I just couldn't fork up 1.8k in a day's time for that MLM-er to recruit me. He even suggests me to borrow money from friends and family. The part when I hated bout him most is he kept insisting on me borrowing money everytime I rejected him. Isn't that annoying ?



 

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