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 ASUS k40AB/k50AB: HD 4570 for just RM2K!, Light gaming on the cheap

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chugeliang
post Jul 19 2009, 11:02 PM

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Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD4570 with 512MB DDR2 VRAM 680Mhz core 500MHz memory with onboard HD 3200 via PowerXpress

hi there, im kinda confused about this graphic card...erm what i mean is compare to dell studio 15 gc what the differences ? =.= same huh ?
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post Jul 19 2009, 11:14 PM

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found out this lappy few days ago.. from my bro.. i've been eyeing on cq40-401ax.. well now this model came out.. the price is equally same.. and the GPU certainly attracts me..

reading this topic.. seems troublesome to tweak everything eh.. im not so of a pro..

so this lappy is definitely better then 401ax? full recommendation for it?

btw the game mentioned is CoD 2?? not CoD 4 ah? how does it perform o CoD 4? impossible to run?
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post Jul 19 2009, 11:22 PM

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is it good? any user here have tried it? any infos? update me plsss.. PM will ya. tq so much..
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post Jul 20 2009, 12:14 AM

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err..this laptop doesn't have bluetooth? damn!

http://www.laptopspec.net/tag/hd4570/
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post Jul 20 2009, 02:36 AM

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hey, I check on the NB Probe, mine fan is "slow and quiet". How to make it "Cool and Quiet"?
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QUOTE(chugeliang @ Jul 19 2009, 11:02 PM)
Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD4570 with 512MB DDR2 VRAM 680Mhz core 500MHz memory with onboard HD 3200 via PowerXpress

hi there, im kinda confused about this graphic card...erm what i mean is compare to dell studio 15 gc what the differences ? =.= same huh ?
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yeah its the same. smile.gif asus k40ab will automatically switch to hd3200 when you wanna save power.


QUOTE(Batusai @ Jul 19 2009, 11:14 PM)
found out this lappy few days ago.. from my bro.. i've been eyeing on cq40-401ax.. well now this model came out.. the price is equally same.. and the GPU certainly attracts me..

reading this topic.. seems troublesome to tweak everything eh.. im not so of a pro..

so this lappy is definitely better then 401ax? full recommendation for it?

btw the game mentioned is CoD 2?? not CoD 4 ah? how does it perform o CoD 4? impossible to run?
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cod 2? u can run cod 4 on med-high settings for sure. tongue.gif

QUOTE(revolnia @ Jul 20 2009, 12:14 AM)
err..this laptop doesn't have bluetooth? damn!

http://www.laptopspec.net/tag/hd4570/
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well you can always get a usb bluetooth device. problem solved! biggrin.gif

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post Jul 20 2009, 08:43 AM

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QUOTE(chugeliang @ Jul 19 2009, 11:02 PM)
Graphics Card: ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD4570 with 512MB DDR2 VRAM 680Mhz core 500MHz memory with onboard HD 3200 via PowerXpress

hi there, im kinda confused about this graphic card...erm what i mean is compare to dell studio 15 gc what the differences ? =.= same huh ?
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the Dell studio 15 is using hd4570 with gddr3 ram, thus shud be faster, but according to TS, the bottleneck would be at the 64bit memory bandwidth rather then the vram, so prolly not much different in the end . If you don't have AMD phobia, i would whole-heartly recommend this model to you.


Added on July 20, 2009, 9:01 am
QUOTE(Najmods @ Jul 19 2009, 10:00 PM)
Yeah, AMD phobia is in 2001 or 2002 during Thunderbird era, I don't know why anyone still thinks that way, they forgot the Prescott altogether, it even worse doh.gif

To tell you the truth my cousin have BenQ S41 with that 8600M GS, been using it for a year now, still fine, I give him advice to use it properly, and good thing his laptop still runs fine smile.gif But even though that laptop have 128-bit memory vs HD 4570 64-bit coupled with very slow 500MHz DDR2 memory, I surprised that HD 4570 is faster than that, the 8600M can barely run CnC: KW at 800x600 low detail, I just stunned that HD 4570 can run it on high, at native resolution!
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Haha, yeah, the intel P4 Pres-Hottttt is much worse, actually the whole NetBurst Microarchitecture Suck badly.... After Intel feel the threat from AMD only they start doing something serious, hence the Core Microarchitecture. This prove that where there is competition, there is improvement. biggrin.gif
Just hope AMD could survive, else shit would happen, no more cheap proc. cry.gif



Regarding the 8600M, I read that Nvidia pay several pc-maker and make them release bios that limit the GPU ability and enabling full-running fans to cover their ass. Googling around and you would find lotsa similiar news. I think that's why your cousin's chip haven phailed, this also explain that the 4570 beating it in gaming performance.

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post Jul 20 2009, 09:48 AM

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QUOTE(InFe_eD @ Jul 19 2009, 09:04 PM)
Performance-wise, Athlon Ql-64 and Turion Rm-74 are on par, rm-74 have higher HT-link and 3 P-stat under CnQ but that's it.
While turion Ultra ZM-84 have bigger L2cache, you have to keep in mind that K8 architecture don't benefit as much as intel c2d from bigger cache, It depend more on Hyper-Transport. But seriously, hdd speed matter more in real-life perfromance.
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so the Asus K40AB now only sell with Athlon QL-64?

juz dream want to use Ultra ZM-84,low power sweat.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(User_Xp @ Jul 20 2009, 09:48 AM)
so the Asus K40AB now only sell with Athlon QL-64?

juz dream want to use Ultra ZM-84,low power  sweat.gif
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undervolt if you want to save power, personaly i use CrystralCPUID. It make my brisbane idle at 30'C
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QUOTE(InFe_eD @ Jul 20 2009, 09:53 AM)
undervolt if you want to save power, personaly i use CrystralCPUID. It make my brisbane idle at 30'C
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ok bro

any trouble when using this lappy?

such as when installing xp or vista?

driver problems?

hardware problem?

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post Jul 20 2009, 10:06 AM

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QUOTE(User_Xp @ Jul 20 2009, 10:01 AM)
ok bro

any trouble when using this lappy?

such as when installing xp or vista?

driver problems?

graphic problem?
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About this lappy for now i dono, LOLZ, I was waiting for it's brother k50ab. Read the 1st page as our TS here already put up some helpful tips. About the grpaihc, the hd4570 is quite capable and can run most game at medium setting.
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QUOTE(User_Xp @ Jul 20 2009, 10:01 AM)
ok bro

any trouble when using this lappy?

such as when installing xp or vista?

driver problems?

hardware problem?
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There is no laptop that we can say wont have any trouble cos nothing is perfect, if scare of cant find the driver must well get ori OS, rclxms.gif
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:09 AM

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regarding the 8600M GS, well, i used to ve a S41 as well, and i can tell u that with the latest BIOS (aka the one that will spin the fan even more) doesn't solve the problem at all...

anyway, 8600M GS was a pretty good card honestly, 3k 3D mark 06 in a 14" at that time is really rare...

the K40Ab is really a steal for those who wants good performance at a low budget... AMD is really the way to go for gaming lappy, juz too bad they dun perform well in the higher-end market of laptops...
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:22 AM

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just curious, how to keep the game running for long periods?
wouldn't the game shut down automatically?
any ways to solve this?
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:29 AM

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k40ab hving such problem ??
is ur OS or GC driver problem ot the game thta you play required highier demand of ram ??
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:36 AM

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so tempting.... my s41 just broke off after 2 years with the nvidia 8 series problem...
So i am stuck with no lappie to work so i am thinking of getting a laptop tat can let me play TF2 and i think this one is nice enough. Great spec for a super low price.
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:42 AM

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QUOTE(300078 @ Jul 20 2009, 11:36 AM)
so tempting.... my s41 just broke off after 2 years with the nvidia 8 series problem...
So i am stuck with no lappie to work so i am thinking of getting a laptop tat can let me play TF2 and i think this one is nice enough. Great spec for a super low price.
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K-ON Mio FTW!!!!! drool.gif

Haha, I bet now you regret din buy the warranty, Haiz, a LOT of ppl oso kena, that's not fairplay by Nvidia... vmad.gif
If you don't have AMD phobia then i highly reccomend this lappie o you thumbup.gif value for money
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QUOTE(Dackson @ Jul 20 2009, 11:29 AM)
k40ab hving such problem ??
is ur OS or GC driver problem ot the game thta you play required highier demand of ram ??
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hmm left 4 dead is not a demanding game at all.......
why it won't last long?????
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:53 AM

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What games u play?
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post Jul 20 2009, 11:56 AM

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dont know ... so other k40ab user this this issue as well ??
may be ur game software problem ?? actually 4570 512mb DDR2 kinda weak ^^ the GC performance is 3rd class GC ald ^^

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